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  • Here are the release notes for Fandom's code release scheduled for August 7, 2019:

    • NEW FEATURE: We recently added @mention support to Discussions!
      • This allows you to ping specific users in Discussions posts by writing their @username in the post.
      • Please note: usernames on Fandom are case-sensitive.
    • NEW FEATURE: We will be adding cross-wiki search as an option on Special:Search!
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    • Are there any limitations to @mention? Like could I @ someone who has never even posted on a given Wiki before, or could I block someone from @ing me (so long as they aren’t Moderators)?

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    • From what I can see, you are able to ping any user on Fandom regardless if they've contributed to a particular wiki or not.

      I don't know the answer to your second question though.

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    • Ursuul, I doubt those features exist.

      Otherwise, Discussions is starting to get good.

      Unfortunately, non-cross-wiki search is so bad, a cross-wiki version might just lead to confusion.

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    • Both great updates! Will admins/mods be able to revoke the pinging ability from users?

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    • There are relatively few limitations at the moment, but we'll be monitoring feedback closely in case changes are needed.

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    • Yeah, I find in wiki search worse than this new cross wiki search -.-; (this could what take my traffic?) I think it is because how I name my articles in my wiki but still I should be able to find my articles on my wiki if 1-3 of the words match.

      Search Fail CICC

      Top Left "My Wiki" search but with no results. Bottom Left the article on my Wiki. Top Right "All Wiki's" search with multiple results. Bottom Left Google search (on page 7 but still there).

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    • We're still working on improvements to the search service, and we're currently re-indexing a lot of content which should help expand the range of articles that local searches pick up.

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    • If cross-wiki search works well, it will contribute to more traffic among wikis, not less. The "works well" part is the tricky thing.

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    • Fandyllic wrote: If cross-wiki search works well, it will contribute to more traffic among wikis, not less. The "works well" part is the tricky thing.

      But only if my content can be populated on other wikis, if it doesn't I won't. Lemme try searching same page but on another wiki see if I show up.

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    • Yeah I don't show up, I'll be providing traffic to other wiki's but not to me.

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    • Kurkbirn wrote: We are working on it. I'm Kirkburn by the way.

      That is great, do you know how hard it is to search a 3k+ page wiki for an article when search doesn't work XD

      Also side note, thank you so much for your help (I already thanked the other staff that finished up with me) with the wiki merging.

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    • The cross-wiki search index is likely very incomplete at this point. Try again next week.

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    • While a cross-wiki search is a good feature, it would be nice if the basic search were improved first. This is something others comments have sort of danced around but I figured I would just say it directly. Also, are there any plans to improve the search capabilities of api.php? Just curious.

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    • I can't speak for api.php - but yes, I can confirm that we have been actively working on Special:Search results improvements.

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    • @twitter?

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    • No.

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    • Search is STILL broken, and not showing all results I know there should be. I've reported this several times now and it's been a month.

      Sorry if I'm sounding impatient, although it's kinda because I am.

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    • I believing re-indexing for the search engine may still be ongoing - I'll check with the team.

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    • CrashBash wrote:

      Search is STILL broken, and not showing all results I know there should be. I've reported this several times now and it's been a month.

      Sorry if I'm sounding impatient, although it's kinda because I am.

      It helps to give examples, otherwise I would guess you're complaining about a rather small or obscure wiki. Remember FANDOM has tens of thousands of wikis, so it will take a very long time to re-index them all... it could even take months.

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    • My wiki seems to have improved search wise, so must be making some progress.

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    • The team have confirmed that the re-indexing is ongoing, but we estimate it may be done by the end of Monday next week.

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    • So less than 2 months? That's faster than I would have expected.

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    • Fandyllic wrote:

      CrashBash wrote:

      Search is STILL broken, and not showing all results I know there should be. I've reported this several times now and it's been a month.

      Sorry if I'm sounding impatient, although it's kinda because I am.

      It helps to give examples, otherwise I would guess you're complaining about a rather small or obscure wiki. Remember FANDOM has tens of thousands of wikis, so it will take a very long time to re-index them all... it could even take months.

      How is the Pokemon wikia "small" or "obscure"?

      And fine....here's the exact example I sent, using The Loud House wikia...again, hardly small, hardly obscure.
      Wikia Problems

      From the "Loud House" wikia, randomly using the word "whisper". Notice below an example that DOESN'T show in the search, for which there should be two pages of.

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    • That page does show up if I search for "whispers" instead. I'll ask the team about the behaviour of plurals in searches.

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    • Many languages rely on word suffixes in their grammars or other transformations. Please, don't let the search be too strict. Ideally it should return similar words used. Otherwise Google with the site:yourwiki.fandom.com keyword might turn out to be a better choice in some cases.

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    • Yes, but then it also shows results for things like "whisker" or "whistle", which is obviously not accurate.

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    • Not looking good.

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    • I don't know about the rest of the wikis but since the upgrade I even get similar worded articles or article content pop up when I search (I am assuming in case of a typo). Example. I searched vegan and the very very last pages even had Vegas pop up. This was nice because typos happen- probably more so than correct text XD

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    • Ironically, it may be that the all wikis search is better than the local wiki search.

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    • Searching for similar words is expected (a form of typo correction), but it should prioritise close matches of course. Plurals should be being handled - the team are looking into why it seems to be failing in some cases.

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    • Look, with all due respect, if I search for a word, I should find results for that word, and all the results for that word, and not results for any other word that has the same first four letters...and even if you must have them, they shouldn't take priority.

      Your old search function worked so much better because it just searched for the words that were typed in. What's happening right now actually makes it harder to find what I'm looking for, because most of the results I'm getting are red herrings.

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    • I'm laughing at the claim that the old search function worked better. The updates have made search far more useful than it's been for a very long time.

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    • DEmersonJMFM wrote: I'm laughing at the claim that the old search function worked better. The updates have made search far more useful than it's been for a very long time.

      Yeah, I got like no results ever with old one, so I am like "wut....?"

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    • Please lets not mix up the local wiki search with the new multi-wiki search. They seem to be behaving differently, but people keep talking about FANDOM search like it's all the same thing. If you see a problem, be specific about the problem: what wiki, what type of search, what search terms, and what results.

      Non-specific info is unhelpful for developers and engineers trying to fix the problem.

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    • DEmersonJMFM wrote: I'm laughing at the claim that the old search function worked better. The updates have made search far more useful than it's been for a very long time.

      Yes, because searching on a local wikia for one specific word only brings up 1/4 of the results and then also shows results for words you did not search for at all. Clearly that's "far more useful than it's been for a very long time".

      Wiki search is broken and saying it isn't is missing the point.

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