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stats Edit

the stats often fail ... or are not up to date ...
or gathering data only a few days a month.
right now this page is NOT stats for the peace wiki:

Those like the stats that I have been getting with the Calgary May Webalizer stats. I have logged it in Bugzilla. -- JamesTeterenko 05:00, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
I'd recommend using the Wikistats rather than Special:Statistics or the Webalizer ones. Angela (talk) 01:35, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
The Webalizer has stats that Wikistats doesn't.
They are good for seeing how individual pages are doing ...
plus some user stats.
They are there ... but not reflecting the proper group.-ts-(talk)----
I definitely prefer the webalizer stats to the Wikistats (when they are working). It is the only insight I get into how others use the site. -- JamesTeterenko 05:00, 23 May 2005 (UTC)

Templates and images from Commons.wikimedia Edit

3 questions:

  1. is it possible to use the templates 'GFDL' and 'Insignia2' from Commons.wikipedia?
  2. is it possible to use images uploaded in Commons?
  3. is it possible to link pages of a national wikipedia (for me

Thank you Massimop 21:32, 22 May 2005 (UTC)

replied at User talk:Massimop. Angela (talk) 21:40, 22 May 2005 (UTC) Edit

Hi Ian. Please check the terms of use again since I think there has been a misunderstanding. All content on every Wikicity needs to be available under the GFDL, not a CC licence. Please fix the pages which claim the wiki is under a CC license and delete any edits where users have not agreed to release their text under the GFDL. If there are any problems with this, please let me know. Thanks.

Hey, Angela. Sorry for any problem I may have inadvertently caused. Because of the vast amount of text involved, I've largely been copying help files mostly unaltered from I'll happily alter any related files, and apologize again for an unintentional difficulty I may have caused. IanWatson 00:58, 23 May 2005 (UTC)

WhiteWolf Spam Edit

Hey, Angela. Just got back from work, and saw all the spam edits done on the White Wolf Wiki. Thanks for cleaning 'em all up! IanWatson 22:37, 18 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Lucid Wikicities copyright Edit

Heys, sorry about that. I saw no license metadata so I felt I had to write something.

I don't think anybody would object to the GFDL license. Is it really necessary to remove their content?

Specifically, lucid:User:R3m0t and lucid:User:IDX would obviously immediately agree. lucid:User:Quippo knows a bit about free licenses and I can contact her if I must. lucid:User: is the anonymous IP of IDX. lucid:User: is the anonymous IP of pasQuale. I don't think anybody else has written much. lucid:User: perhaps. r3m0t 09:54, 23 May 2005 (UTC)

I think it would be best to contact them just to make sure the content is cleanly licensed under the GFDL. Angela (talk) 03:36, 24 May 2005 (UTC)

Pages Disappearing Edit

For whatever reason, both the Community Portal and Town Hall (Village Pump equivalent) of dnd: are disappearing. Are you moving the wiki right now, or is something very wrong happening? Mathx314(talk)(email) 18:46, 25 May 2005 (UTC)

It's fixed temporarily and reported at bug:126. Angela (talk) 22:01, 25 May 2005 (UTC)
Now that the wiki has been moved, the dnd: interwiki no longer works. Might we be able to set up a polaqu: interwiki? Mathx314(talk)(email) 01:40, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
Done. polaqu: will work now. Angela (talk) 04:35, 27 May 2005 (UTC)

Two things about althist Edit

First of all, spam: [1]. --millosh (talk) 23:42, 29 May 2005 (UTC)

Second, please look at the Main Page discussion about separating althist languages. --millosh (talk) 23:42, 29 May 2005 (UTC) I asked for new Wikicity. --millosh (talk) 18:32, 30 May 2005 (UTC)

I'll added qx5\.net to the Spam Blacklist and I'll make the new wiki today. Angela (talk) 07:38, 31 May 2005 (UTC)
Great and thanks :) --millosh (talk) 08:49, 31 May 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for the help! Edit

Thank you for the help cleaning up the spam edits on the Concord wiki. I've had Internet problems over the last couple of weeks, so I hadn't even seen them. Though, since there's only a couple of users right now, I would've spotted them soon enough, but thanks. Thanks also for filling in the Copyrights page, one of many administrivial things I kept meaning to get around to. Alfvaen 03:52, 30 May 2005 (UTC)

I'm glad I could help. :) If you see any more spam, just list it at Talk:Spam Blacklist and it can be blocked. Angela (talk) 07:38, 31 May 2005 (UTC)

Thank You Edit

Thanks for trusting me with administrative rights! I'll try to use them for good.  :-) Let me know if there are any specific activities where you'd like help in addition to the general responsibilities. --CocoaZen 00:45, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Memory Alpha Dutch Admin Edit

Hey Angela, I tried to make a new admin on MA Dutch, ut I'm having some problems. Perhaps I'm no longer a bureacrat there. Anyway, could you make the User Q an admin? I need to have someone back me up there, because I don't always keep track and the occasional vandal gets away. Thanks. -- Redge | Talk 11:46, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)

has my application failed or what? Edit

hi. i applied for a new wiki on economics couple of weeks ago and i havent heard anything back from wikicities about it. what happened was i rejected?! i dont see my wiki proposal being in the reject list. did i do something wrong?--GregLoutsenko 22:28, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Sorry for the delay. A problem with the creation script has meant new wikis couldn't be created since our recent move. I will try this again today and let you know when it is made. Angela (talk) 01:41, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)

links to Edit

Hi Angela. Is there a way to create links to bulgarian wikipedia (other than creating external links)? I mean, with wikipedia: the links are redirected to en:, is there a way or a chance another interwiki to be created, bgwikipedia:, bgwiki: or something like that? This will be very useful for ancientworld (for now) and every other bulgarian wikicity (in the future). Regards, DCLXVI 09:52, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Yes, you can use Wikipedia:bg:Article name to link to the Bulgarian Wikipedia. Angela (talk) 11:51, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
It returns an error. I tried to link енциклопедия (encyclopedia), just to test it.
Bad title
The requested page title was invalid, empty, or an incorrectly linked inter-language or inter-wiki title.

--DCLXVI 18:12, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Very interesting. I can confirm that I had the same happen -- I tried both Wikipedia:es:Real Madrid and Wikipedia:el:Ρεάλ Μαδρίτης just to try another non-Latin alphabet. The Spanish worked but the Greek didn't. Thus I conclude that second-generation Interwiki (pass a language prefix to Wikipedia, who then directs you to the correct language version) doesn't seem to work for non-Latin alphabets. HTH, PhilipR 20:19, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Ah... this is because the link goes via the English Wikipedia, which isn't UTF8 yet so doesn't allow titles like Енциклопедия. Try redirecting via meta isn't of en: MetaWikipedia:bg:Енциклпедия. This will work, as will the shortcut "m" instead of "MetaWikipedia": m:bg:Енциклопедия. Angela (talk) 21:32, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Cool, thanks. I want to report too, that the problem with stats on Ancientworld, reported in bug:56 is now fixed on this wiki. But the old articles, created before the fix are not counted. Is there a way to include them? -- DCLXVI 04:07, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)

CC share alike for HoH Edit

Is it possible to put CC share alike license on HoH? There is no need for GFDL. --millosh (talk) 22:50, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)

All Wikicities need to be compatible with each other, and it is generally useful if they are compatible with Wikimedia's projects as well. For this reason, you do need to have them be GFDL. However, you are welcome to dual license the edits under a CC license, so people could choose whether to use the content under the GFDL or CC. Please see Multi-licensing for more information on this. Angela (talk) 00:47, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)

I realized yesterday that there would be a lot of problems widh CC-only... For example, if I use some text from Wikipedia and change it, I would have to write that that article is under GFDL... So, I would stay on GFDL. I just thought that it is possible to escape from GFDL (and to make distribution more easy) at the beginning of the project, but it is not. Anyway, thanks for the advices. (I don't think that I'll use dual license because it would make a lot of other difficulties.) --millosh (talk) 17:26, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Heya, TTF here again...Edit

Just a small request, I've been looking at the way other wiki's have been able to edit their page designs (Especially the Mozilla Guys... wow...), and I've actually searched through most WikiMedia help sections I can get my paws on, but they don't appear to go further than basic help.

As a basic summary, I've been wanting to amend the following:

  • Computing Knowledgebase links in left frame. Taking just a General Glace, I can place readily-accessible topic information in there (Hardware, Software, etc). Placing a link to the Categories, and the CK Sandbox would also be helpful, too.
  • Amend the basic HTML layout of the actual frames, instead of just being confined to the articles themselves
    • This includes adding a watermark-style background, and altering the static text/highlight-text-with-cursor colours.

Thanks in advance for any help you can give me.

--TwoTailedFox 21:54, 19 Jun 2005 (UTC)

replied at pc:User talk:TwoTailedFox. Angela (talk)

Gambling content on GameinfoWiki Edit

Hi Angela,

I see that for reasons of Google wikicities can't include gambling-related information. Obviously, this is going to cause problems on the Gameinfo Wiki, as gambling is done by partaking in games of chance while Gameinfo Wiki aims to have information on every game ever created. The general pages said to contact you in case of such a conflict. (I'd be interested in participating, but not if there's a potential problem waiting.) PHM (I'm Mysha on Wikipedia NL.)

I think this is fine. The different is that the gameinfo wiki will have information about gambling - it won't actually be a place where people are gambling. I very much doubt Google would regard that as prohibited content. Angela (talk) 05:53, 23 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Presumably this holds true tenfold (I started to say "in spades", but I'd never convince you no pun was intended) for Pokerwiki. However, we're certainly not planning to play poker over the wiki, just talk about it, so it sounds like we're safe. -- PhilipR 17:12, 23 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Yes, information about Poker should be fine. There is now a games: Wikicity where people can play games, but the exchange of money can't happen on the site, so gambling isn't actually possible there. I can't imagine, though I don't completely discount the possibility, that people are going to try to turn games: into an actual gambling site. I guess we'll deal with that when it arises. :) Angela (talk) 18:15, 23 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Depromotion of a user Edit

Is it possible to remove a user's bureaucrat with only bureaucrat status yourself? I tried to do this at pokemon: (with User:User142) but I'm not sure it worked (I accidentally checked the bureaucrat box). – Jello2 17:49, 29 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Yes, thank you. Also, I'm pretty sure user:User142 is wikipedia:User:User142, not 142-troll. – Jello2 11:59, 30 Jun 2005 (UTC)

CSS Request Edit

Language CSS

We should have CSS classes for Babel templates to simplify/standardize coding:

(content moved to MediaWiki:Monobook.css)

This should be working now. You may need to refresh your cache to see the effects. Angela (talk) 13:28, 4 Jul 2005 (UTC)
Maybe Danielwang forgot the "basic level". And how does it work? - upssdr talk 13:48, 4 Jul 2005 (UTC)

There were a lot of syntax mistakes in my code. "font-size:14pt" is missing a semi-colon (;). "min-height:45px" doesn't seem to work and needs to be changed to "height:45px;". CSS doesn't seem to use "//" as a comment code. The border colors are wrong... Better change to (test file)

(changes moved)

Is it better now? Angela (talk) 22:02, 4 Jul 2005 (UTC)

Portuguese Editing Help Edit

I have made a copy of the english help to the portuguese help page because it was empty and it is not possible to opt for the english one. I just hope this is not against some wiki policy. --Alain M. 20:56, 4 Jul 2005 (UTC)

replied at pt.linux. Angela (talk) 22:01, 4 Jul 2005 (UTC)

Wiki-sidebars doesn't work everywhere Edit

Angela: I can't seem to get the wiki-sidebars working in either the Stargate wiki or in the Hembygd wiki. What is wrong? I've noted this i.e. in the Stargate Wiki --Peter R 16:13, 5 Jul 2005 (UTC)

replied at SGCommand:Project:Community Portal. Angela (talk) 00:56, 6 Jul 2005 (UTC)

Interwiki Links Edit

The interwiki link for Detroit: does not seem to be working yet. --CocoaZen 02:03, 8 Jul 2005 (UTC)

fixed. Angela (talk) 07:04, 8 Jul 2005 (UTC)
Angela - I've been adding other Wikicities about cities to a list on the cities: wiki. And, I've noticed that several more of the intewiki links don't seem to be working.  :-( --CocoaZen 20:52, 8 Jul 2005 (UTC)
I'll try to update all of these tomorrow. Angela (talk) 19:31, 9 Jul 2005 (UTC)
Another oddity... Beijing shows up in the category listing for places under "S".  ?? --CocoaZen 21:18, 8 Jul 2005 (UTC)
Weird... resaving the page fixed it. Angela (talk) 19:31, 9 Jul 2005 (UTC)
And... the Interwiki link, Ankara:, is a different Turkish city than Istanbul/Constantinople, I think? --CocoaZen 19:18, 9 Jul 2005 (UTC)
That was just a mistake because I used the Ankara page as a template. Angela (talk) 19:31, 9 Jul 2005 (UTC)

NO Edit i MUST point out that economics is NOT, in ANYWAY, a subset of business. economics is a social science, a very wide ranging one at that (an article on this) and thus should be in social sciences category. business on the other hand is bullshit, its a collection of buzzwords and buzzphrases, like click and bricks, see bullshit.--GregLoutsenko 00:08, 9 Jul 2005 (UTC)

Ok, now changed. Angela (talk) 19:31, 9 Jul 2005 (UTC)
thank you Angela, out of interest where did you move it to? economics wiki is not found under society category or society...--GregLoutsenko 20:32, 10 Jul 2005 (UTC)
Social science. Feel free to edit it at Economics if you're not happy with the category. Angela (talk) 20:37, 10 Jul 2005 (UTC)
yes. doesnt have Social science as a catogery. it must be just me, i am a bit confused about the organisation of the categories, but dont worry ill try my best to get it--GregLoutsenko 20:40, 10 Jul 2005 (UTC)

Templates re Inappropriate ContentEdit

Hi. I just replaced the {{placement}} template with the {{NotCitiesWiki}} on the Setif page. Since the cities: wikicity is now trying the wider purpose, I would like to suggest that this content belongs there. I think the NotCitiesWiki also replaces the delete-because, but wasn't sure so I didn't remove that template. Hope that was ok. --CocoaZen 20:36, 9 Jul 2005

Thanks for letting me know. I agree that replaces the delete one. Angela (talk) 02:52, 10 Jul 2005 (UTC)


Lots of vandalism tonight by who also seemed to have given him/herself the ID of Admin. Posted and various inappropriate garbage and blanking. I blacklisted the URL and blocked and Admin for 24 hours. Perhaps the ID of Admin shouldn't be allowed (suggestion by Phroziac with which I agree). Should it be blocked indefinately? Thanks to Phroziac and Imperialles who both helped revert the vandalism. --CocoaZen 01:13, 10 Jul 2005 (UTC)

I've blocked that account permanently. It's not an appropriate username. Angela (talk) 02:52, 10 Jul 2005 (UTC)
Glad to be able to help out. Thanks for providing the environment and helping us learn how to use it effectively! --CocoaZen 03:23, 10 Jul 2005 (UTC)

About namespaces Edit

Hi Angela, the page Помощ:Наръчник is in the main namespace, not in the Help: namespace. Is that a problem and should I move it in Help:Наръчник to be in the same namespace? --DCLXVI 22:13, 10 Jul 2005 (UTC)

See Help talk:Наръчник. Angela (talk) 22:32, 10 Jul 2005 (UTC)

Thanks Edit

Angela, thanks for approving of the nomination for Guitar. Good luck with the Board of Trustees election. Meg99 01:56, 11 Jul 2005 (UTC)

Thanks. :) Angela (talk) 06:31, 11 Jul 2005 (UTC)

Creating Administrative Privileges Edit

I tried to give Pjotr'k administrative privileges on the Stargate Wikicity. The system won't let me.
I'm not positive that I have bureaucratic rights there. I think I do; it lets me access the make a user into a sysop page, which I can't access on other wikis where I don't have the authorization to make the change.
I was wondering if the apostrophe (') in the ID is causing a problem, and if you know a way around this? --CocoaZen 14:20, 14 Jul 2005 (UTC)

I think it was the apostophe causing problems. The solution is to type "#3290" instead of "Pjotr'k". #3290 is the user's internal ID number, which can be found by asking the user to check their Preferences. Angela (talk) 03:33, 15 Jul 2005 (UTC)
Thanks! - CocoaZen

Nietzsche Edit

Bonjour Angela. Thank you for Nietzsche. Marc 18:14, 16 Jul 2005 (UTC)

X-Files wikiEdit

I realise you had me down as a banned user, but I'm not the same person as WikiUser on Wikipedia. I'll try changing my user name to avoid confusion and resubmit my request for The X-Files wiki. --WikiUser 07:04, 17 Jul 2005 (UTC)

I am now GandalfTheBlack, so the user page and the talk page for WikiUser probably need to be removed from Wikicities. Also, I've resubmitted my request. Sorry for the confusion. --GandalfTheBlack 07:28, 17 Jul 2005 (UTC)
Thanks for clarifying. I'll make x-files now. Angela (talk) 07:29, 17 Jul 2005 (UTC)
Thank you


Do you know how to save an image with a transparent background? It's for a logo I designed for The Lord of the Rings Wiki, that can be seen on this page. The logo itself will need a user with sysop privileges to implement it. --GandalfTheBlack 07:43, 17 Jul 2005 (UTC)

eWrestling Edit

That account is mine. The problem is down to my nonsense password on Uncyclopedia. My user page there links to my Wikipedia user page, which is why I know its me. I'm going to try and get the password reset when I can find someone with the abilities - feel free to assign the admin/bureaucrat abilities for the eW Wikicity there. 18:54, 17 Jul 2005 (UTC) (Hedley)

interlanguage for conlang(s) Edit

Hi, Angela.

I am interested in addng interlanguage support to the conlang wikicity... particularly I am interested in adding interlanguage support for any variety of new languages, not just Mediawiki supported languages.

Alternatively I might ask for a new wikicity for encyclopedias writen in conlangs with the requested features.

How should I proceed?

Carlos Th (talk) 19:04, 26 Jul 2005 (UTC)

replied at conlang:User talk:Chlewey
Well, for interlanguage support I mean that I want to create namespaces that behave like the language interwikis in Wikipedia or the C wikicity. Just that they are languages that would not be used outside a particular wikicity.
Anyhow, where can I get documentation on language.php files?
How easily can new languages, that are uninteresting for the whole mediawiki community, be introduced?
Carlos Th (talk) 14:47, 29 Jul 2005 (UTC)

adding an admin to a wikicity Edit

Dear Angela,

How do I give an user admin privileges to a wikicity of which I am an admin myself?

Thanks much

--E. Viveiros de Castro 14:01, 27 Jul 2005 (UTC)

replied at w:c:abaete:Usuário Discussão:E. Viveiros de Castro

misc. Edit

Hi Angela,

Just want to ask if Kate's tool has a wikicities version. And how can I request for adminship on my Wiki, if ever I want to become one? Do I have to apply here at Central? Chosen One 18:58, 27 Jul 2005 (UTC)

replied at w:c:harrypotter:User talk:Chosen One
Yeah, I just wanted to find out how many edits I wanted, but obviously it only works for Wikipedia. Concerning adminship, I'm not yet that interested in becoming an admin, but we're thinking of opening the Wiki to the public (via Mugglenet et al.), and it might eventually be necessary to have more than one absentee admin. I don't have any experience yet. Do you think it's a good idea to try it out there or should I get some experience on WP first? Thanks a lot. ;) User:Chosen One/sig 09:50, 29 Jul 2005 (UTC)

our nomic bank Edit

Hi there! did you change you mind? Could you please host our nomic bank here? By the way I cannot access wikipedia. do you know whats happening there? thnx BoW Bank 07:56, 28 Jul 2005 (UTC)

I've not changed my mind. You can't access Wikipedia because you're banned there. Please stop trying to edit Wikipedia. There are many alternative wiki hosts where you can put your content. See the Wikibooks list of hosts I gave you before. Angela (talk) 05:34, 29 Jul 2005 (UTC)
You said: "you're banned there, go away!". Could you please search a little bit a discover WHY I was banned? I was banned because they accused me of beeing another banned user. You dont seem to care about the reason I was banned, and whether this was fair on unfair, dont you? You are just saying "you are banned" and then your conscience is clear. Are you always doing what they told you to do, without judging whether your action is fair or unfair? BoW Bank 13:10, 29 Jul 2005 (UTC)
Whether or not you're the banned user Iasson, you share his IP and editing style. Goodbye. Angela (talk) 13:30, 29 Jul 2005 (UTC)
For the last time. I am not Iasson. I am not willy on wheels. I am not sharing anyones IP or editing style. I dont understand whats happening and why you behave like that, I think its a misunderstanding. I am not going to insist anymore. Goodbye and good luck, and try not to be so suspicious next time. BoW Bank 18:13, 29 Jul 2005 (UTC)

MiniWiki became MaxiWiki Edit

Hi Angela,

I have a question about moving MiniWiki content.

I have applied for a new Wikicity (TsukubaWiki) and I started working on it in MiniWikis. I originally intended to only put up three or four pages, but the project has kind of blossomed (quite unexpectedly) and now we already have over 200 pages. When (and if) we get approval for the official TsukubaWiki, will it be possible to move all the pages at once (and automatically) to the official location?

I'm sorry if this is not the right place for this question. If that is the case, please let me know where I should post it.

Thank you!

-- Shaney 04:40, 3 Aug 2005 (UTC)

The new wiki is at w:c:tsukuba. Good luck with it. :) Angela (talk) 09:57, 3 Aug 2005 (UTC)

Hi Angela. Thank you for setting up the new Tsukuba Wiki. We have moved all of the content over to the official page now. Please feel free to delete any TsukubaWiki content that remains on scratchpad. All pages have the category "TsukubaWiki", in case that helps. If I can do anything to help erase the content from the scratchpad, please let me know.

If possible, I would like this content to be removed so it doesn't conflict with the information in the new page. If there is no way for you to do it automatically, I can go through and erase the content of each page manually. Please advise.


-- Shaney 15:43, 4 Aug 2005 (UTC)

Don't worry. I'll delete the pages (probably when I am back home next week) if another Scratchpad admin doesn't get to it first. User:Angela 13:00, 6 Aug 2005 (UTC)

Unnecessary page protection Edit


Sorry about placing unnecessary page protection on the database management Wiki topic. I have removed the protections. Obviously, I'm new at this and am learning as I go. Thanks. Jay L.

World of Darkness Updates Edit

Hi Angela! Rav and I are the ones trying to establish to merge our respective site (worldofdarkness.wikicites for him, nwod.wikicities for me). I sent in a request on Sep 12 and still haven't heard anything. Could you help us out?--Atlastawake 13:36, 21 Sep 2005 (UTC)

Wikicities logo license Edit

Hi Angela,

could you tell me whether the Wikicities logo can be used in the Hungarian Wikipedia? There is no license information; it is used under fair use in the en: Wikipedia, but that doesnt apply in Hungary. Could you possibly place it under a free license?

(I tried to contact Jasonr about this, but got no answer.)

thx, --hu:Tgr ( 22:14, 8 Aug 2005 (UTC))

replied at wikipedia:hu:user talk:Tgr. Angela (talk) 14:01, 9 Aug 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for your answer. To my knowledge, there is no way in Hungary to use an image without explicit permisssion from the copyright holder, regardless of type and trademark status. Maybe you could give permission to use the image in Wikipedia, or in WikiMedia projects? Or permit using it in connection with WikiCities?

As for the Sablon:Más wikik logos, they are linked from Commons. We assumed, that placing an image in Commons automatically means at least that the sister projects are permitted to use it. If that is not the case, could you please clarify their legal status and give a permission similar to the above one? We use those images quite often, eg. in interproject link templates.

(OTOH if being in Commons does mean permission, then uploading the WikiCities logo there with a license similar to those of the WikiMedia trademarks would solve the problem.)

As a side note, the Wikiquote and commons:Image:Wikispecies-logo.png logos are under GFDL in Commons. Is this incorrect then?

--Tgr ( 12:40, 10 Aug 2005 (UTC))

Sorry to bother you again, but could you please find a suitable license for the lgogos (eg. permission to use them on * The current legal uncertainity often causes problems. (For example, one of the hungarian wikipedians created a welcome mug based on the official Wikipedia logo; after looking through the relevant articles on Meta, the english Wikipedia and Commons, we found no information at all about the legal status of this image. (Except fo wikipedia:m:talk:logo, which requests that such images be put under GFDL - which is probably incorrect.))

thanks, --Tgr (talk) (-- 00:32, 25 Aug 2005 (UTC))

The logos can be used on Wikipedia, but they are trademarks, so can't be freely licensed. The ones on commons are all now marked as "copyright to wikimedia", not GFDL (or at least they should be). Angela (talk)

Control, Independence, or DeathEdit

Why do you keep bugging me? I did not mean to attract unwanted attention, but i don't want anymore interference with my user pages! Stop being my enemy, i'm trying to get away from all my problems on the wiki. I'm looking for a freely editable website where my user pages can be left alone in peace and privacy. No one (except me) controls my user page because his/her changes to my user pages will disappoint me and no one controls what i do to my user pages (i don't vandalize them though). Stop destroying my user page, the content i put on there is very important to me. I don't like to use my user pages for project purposes only - it's too boring! I have many user pages on the internet, but i combine them as links to my user pages. I keep my user page as half-fact and half-fiction. What i am doing to my user pages is not spamming - i hate spam! Stop giving comments against me - they make me angry and stop chasing me across the wiki - i don't want to die!

On the other hand, my user content includes my work on the wiki, again, you misunderstood my "revolutionary reformation" ideas and you wrongly interpret me as a threat. I don't want anyone to become my enemies who are intent on destroying me and banishing me from the entire wiki, so please leave me alone in peace! -- Eddyward Telerionus 10:08, 11 Aug 2005 (UTC)

New York Wikicity Edit

Hi, it's Pharos of the English Wikipedia here (I can confirm this on en.wikipedia if you want). I would like to revive the rather moribund New York Wikicity (if it's not yet been put on the adoption list, it's pretty darn close; see changes over the last 30 days). So I am requesting admin status on newyork.wikicities. Maybe I should be given bureaucrat status as well. Thanks.--Pharos 00:03, 11 Aug 2005 (UTC)

Wikiversity Edit

It looks like Wikiversity might finally be kicked out of wikibooks. Is there any way that Wikiversity could exist as a wikicity until it gets designated as a stand-alone project? Maybe wikiversity could just move to the university node wiki --JWSchmidt 20:56, 13 Aug 2005 (UTC)

Universitywikinodewiki was actually meant to have been locked ages ago. It's superceded by education: and students:, the former of which could provide a place for the Wikiversity pages on Wikibooks. However, the vision I have of Wikiversity requires software changes, so I don't see much benefit to simply moving the pages off Wikibooks to any site here. If it was to be here, it ought to be hosted without ads, since we're currently trying to find grants to support its development, which aren't so likely to come if it appears to be hosted on a commercial site. Angela (talk) 21:40, 13 Aug 2005 (UTC)
Hello Angela, I indicated support for leaving Wikiversity as it is on its talk page. I have put work on a New Testament translation on both Wikibooks (Christianity) and Religion-Wiki (User:Athrash). Wikibooks admins may have a problem with Christianity as a title which is evangelizing in itself. They called parts of it: raw Bible. So what, it all qualifies as annotated texts and is non-denominational. I only go to Religion occasionly to keep a back-up possibility, Gareth has helped me with the classic languages. I just found the Main Page redirected to WP:nonsense and have no admin credentials. That was a puzzle, but I was able to revert using URL address for Religion Main Page History. All of the entries of may have similar results and I did not have time to check them all. Athrash 03:36, 14 Aug 2005 (UTC)

dear angela..bout my wikicites... Edit

1. I have no email 2. I need would prefer my proposed amtgard wiki over the animal crossing wiki as the amtgard wiki was requested on other boards I know about. 3. I would take care of all wikicitys!

Order I want my cities:

1. amtgard 2. dead kennedys 3. animal crossing

--Aeryka 01:43, 14 Aug 2005 (UTC)

Perhaps you could try these other ones at scratchpad first since the animalcrossing one has been inactive for so long, it doesn't seem a good idea to start two more before there is anyone interested in them. Angela (talk)

Investments & Cities Edit

Amazingly enough, the vandals do not seem to have found either, the relative lack of activity notwithstanding. I just finished creating a new logo for Investments, it only took three programs to create the darn thing. Now I would like to upload and need admin privs. Also since only CocoaZen and Myself will admit to mucking about on the cities wiki, maybe we could be made admins there as well.

One other thing that concerns me is that the statistics don't seem to be functioning properly for Investments. I know Investments isn't doing all that much as yet, but I would appreciate if someone would take a look at it eventually. Among other things, it doesn't seem interested in showing up in the comparison table at 03:20, 14 Aug 2005 (UTC)

.doc support for toastmasters wikicity? Edit

Flushed with my success at I've started not one, but two conference wikicities. One for a conference in October and another in May 2006. I started them today, monday 15 august and am promoting them aggressively.

I think the site would really benefit from having .doc upload support. Many of the resources we currently use are in .doc support. .doc is also much smaller than .pdf so is bandwidth friendly.

Academia wikicity interwiki code Edit

Is there a functioning interwiki link code for Academia or should we just use [[w:c:wikiname:pagename]]; w:c:Academia:Main Page? --JWSchmidt 19:43, 18 Aug 2005 (UTC)

Just w:c:Academia:Main Page. New wikis aren't being added to the interwiki map since it was unscalable to maintain the list manually and somewhat pointless when w:c: works from here and wikicities:c: works from other wikis. Angela (talk) 02:09, 19 Aug 2005 (UTC)

Change Wikiadmins Edit

Hi! we Have A problem with our Wikicity Site Abitur Wissen: The admin is away and never come back. Hopefully you want to make me and FProg as admins. That would be great, beacause we need Admins to lead the whole thing...

Could you help us, please? We really need an admin there. I tried to contact Juli, who created the Abi Wiki, some time ago (see the discussions), but there was no response. However, we need an admin to translate and change the MediaWiki messages, to delete pages etc. It would be great if you could set me and/or Jonnyisback as admins there. -- FProg (Talk) 22:09, 24 Aug 2005 (UTC)

Title Change? Edit

Hey is there a way to get my wiki's title changed to WikiBestiary? It seems "teratology" is used most often for the study of birth defects and I think that might be a little confusing. Thanks. Tengu 07:18, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)

Sure. I'll do that now. Angela (talk) 10:19, 24 Aug 2005 (UTC)

Statistics not workingEdit

Neither Wikistats nor Webalizer seem to be funtioning. Wikistats seems to be stuck at 8/15 and Webalizer at 8/16.--Kirk 23:48, 25 Aug 2005 (UTC)

Jason is hoping to have these back online soon. Angela (talk)

Block user LinuxbeakEdit

I want help to block Linuxbeak in the swedish Memory Alpha wikicity. He is apparentely not at fault, but someone is using his account to create trouble. Can you block him? Peter R 08:27, 26 Aug 2005 (UTC)

Harry Potter Wiki Title Edit

Hi Angela, can you please change the Harry Potter Wiki site name from "Harry Potter" to "Harry Potter Wiki"? I think we've made the decision here. Vostok also agrees with the renaming, as long as the URL doesn't change. P.S., I've posted the German translation for the message box. «Rainer» 02:32, 27 Aug 2005 (UTC)

Need Help Blocking a Spammer Edit

Angela, I'm contacting you because the Alaska wiki is having a problem with the same spammer who pasted a link at the top of THIS page. He's vandalizing our main talk page. Maybe since the problem with this person is more widespread than just us, he could be blocked completely. When I look at the page histories, I see that the ip address changes each time, so I don't know exactly what to do here. BTW, I "defused" the link he left at the top of this page because this message got filtered out the first time I left it. (It was convenient for me that he left an example right here, so you could see who I'm talking about.) This is our first problem with a persistant vandal. I need a little direction here.--Doug 18:20, 27 Aug 2005 (UTC)

redirect to porno spam Edit

Angela ... someone used your id at 3:48 to redirect my user page
i changed it back.
if anyone else has this problem ...
use http://'''YOUR WIKI'''/index.php?title=User:''YOUR ID''&action=edit
to get in to edit it. -ts-talk 04:01, 28 Aug 2005 (UTC)
update ... in fact, all admin pages were altered along with a few other pages.
so someone got access to your ID Angela ... and signed in as you.
unless of course it WAS you. ;)
from Recent Changes, one can do a rollback.
-ts-talk 04:23, 28 Aug 2005 (UTC)
It wasn't my ID. It was User:%CE%91ngela, not User:Angela. I've blocked it on the peace wiki and Jason has changed its password to prevent it editing anywhere else. Angela (talk) 05:34, 28 Aug 2005 (UTC)
thanks. i didn't really think it was you. ;)
i did wonder at how someone was able to hijack your ID. interesting fakeout.
it's hard to keep up with all of this junk ... and impossible to head it off.
seems all we can do is clean up the mess after the fact.
thanks again. -ts-talk 15:41, 28 Aug 2005 (UTC)

Desencyclopedie URL Edit

Hello Angela... Did you by any chance receive my email about the domain name, which I can redirect to the Désencyclopédie? Do you think it's ok? Thanks! --Philo 10:26, 30 Aug 2005 (UTC)

Finding IPs to block spammers? Edit

Hi Angela. I'm an admin on the Doom Wiki. We had some spammer vandalise our homepage but I am unable to IP-ban them because they actually registered an account ("1231232"). As far as I can tell there isn't any way in MediaWiki to find someone's IP address, even if you're an admin.

Obviously, if you could block them it would be great, but it would be nice to have a way to do this so that it is not neccessary to bother you again in future. Fraggle 12:13, 30 Aug 2005 (UTC)

Your unprotedtion of Avatar Main Page Edit

I thought about the harm, but it was only protected form moves. I am unsure how to fix move vandalism, so it added a little peaceo f mind to me. I don't really mind if it stays unprotected, though. Howabout1 22:09, 30 Aug 2005 (UTC)

Guardian Angel - protecting pages Edit

Hi Angela, Sorry - we were protecting pages so that all the countrys citizens wouldn't go in and edit the 'reports' in our virtual newspaper written by our citizen correspondents. We panicked a bit just before CitTV came out last week as we thought that the newspaper might be mentioned on TV, and so people might go in and look at the work etc. However, I shall refrain from protecting the pages, and shall instruct the other correspondents to do the same. Hope this resolves the issue. Thanks, Suzkin.

H*R Wiki Edit

It has been almost a week since I sent an..."application" for the H*Rpedia. Did you get it? I haven't heard back. --Color Printer 23:28, 2 Sep 2005 (UTC) - Very complete Homestar Wiki that thousands use.- Camalex

Translation Edit

Hi Anglea, I've finished the translation of the current message box in case you haven't noticed yet. «Rainer» 06:43, 3 Sep 2005 (UTC)

conferences wikicity has been hacked Edit

The conferences wikicity has been completely hacked. sigh. --Erichv 08:42, 7 Sep 2005 (UTC)

World of Darkness Wiki Edit

Hi Angela,

There are two wiki's in wikicities aimed at fan-made content for the RPG World of Darkness. I have been in discussion with the editors at and I believe that we want to combine our wiki's at the new url and have the wiki name of "World of Darkness Wiki." Please put the founders as myself and Atlastawake (I think there is actually one more founder but I haven't met him/her yet). Hopefully we can smooth this out quickly and continue to create the first/best wiki for WoD.

Thanks, Ravious

The new wiki is at for these two to be combined into. Angela (talk)

Wikifun Edit

Hello Angela,

can you change the title of the wiki from "Sammlung von Witzen" into: "Wikifun", please? On Wikibooks there is also another Jokebook in English available - perhaps it's possible to start a English version of Wikifun for collecting english jokes here, too. Thank u -- Achim 06:49, 10 Sep 2005 (UTC)

I've checked the use of language again and I think the best thing is to use the domain for a multilanguage start page where the language can be selected (like here: For the german and english version we need two different subdomains: (german) and (english). Both wikis should have the title "Wikifun". I hope you can help me -- Achim 13:58, 11 Sep 2005 (UTC)

mmm cake Edit

Thanks for the cake! --Phroziac (talk) 03:58, 13 Sep 2005 (UTC)

Wikicities:Wikicities tour/Create a new tour stop Edit

Dear Angela, I've been tinkering with your precious Wikicities:Wikicities tour/Create a new tour stop. I'm fairly sure it still works. I believe the headings and line-spacings, etc, will make it easier to use. Now to do one for LOTR! Robin Patterson 12:02, 13 Sep 2005 (UTC) (Your clock is 15 minutes slow??)

LOTR done. My fiddles worked well. Please have a tour! (OK, I know you're busy 25/7) Robin Patterson 01:40, 15 Sep 2005 (UTC)

Consolidating Cities?Edit

Angela - Kimbayne and I have discussed merging the Tucson Wikicity, which was up for adoption and to which Kim had been the main contributor and founder, into the Cities Wikicity. Would that be ok? Could the existing pages be ported over (preferably with a "Tucson:")? If it can't be done with a mass move, I guess we could do manual copy and paste. Then Tucson could be closed down, but the content and opportunities to grow would remain. And it would greatly enrich the content on the Cities site. Your opinions? --CocoaZen 15:19, 18 Sep 2005 (UTC)

Yes, that sounds fine. Let me know when you want me to lock the Tucson wiki from editing. Angela (talk) 00:16, 20 Sep 2005 (EDT)

wikilink to a image @ the main wikicities? Edit

Can you wikilink to a image @ the main wikicities from a subdomain. I have tried but only got a missing image notice. Thanks for any feed back. Reddi 16:56, 18 Sep 2005 (UTC) [crossposted]

No, this isn't possible. You need to re-upload the image to the wiki you want to use it on. Angela (talk) 00:16, 20 Sep 2005 (EDT)

Extension Edit

Bonjour Angela,

I would like to know if it is possible to add an extension to create partitions, like here :

it would be useful to transcribe images like this one (and much of others) : w:c:Nietzsche:Image:Oratorio.jpg.

Thank you. Marc 05:55, 21 Sep 2005 (EDT)

I'm not convinced this extension is safe enough yet since it hasn't been installed on Wikipedia or any other Wikimedia sites. Do you know of any wikis that are using it? Angela (talk) 05:27, 22 Sep 2005 (UTC)
I don't know. I only wanted some informations on this extension.

I have a problem with advertisements : I do not think that advertisements for lingerie or for meetings are compatible with a wiki on a philosopher. In Prohibited content, Pornography, adult, or mature content are prohibited. Marc 13:13, 21 Sep 2005 (EDT)

Sorry about this. Google should not be serving up inappropriate ads. Do you have some examples of what they were linking to? You can also contact Google directly about this using the address at [2]. Angela (talk) 05:27, 22 Sep 2005 (UTC)
For example : The text on the wiki is "meet serious with beautiful woman. Simple and fast relation" (sorry for my english). It is a little bit ambiguous... Or sale of lingerie on ebay. The problem is not that I have something against this (these advertisements are however for adults), but that's not very serious for a wiki on a philosopher : this wiki is referenced by a doctoral school in France... Marc 18:53, 22 Sep 2005 (UTC)
The ads are based on the content of the page, so should (in theory) be appropriate to it. I see what you mean about the products being for adults, but the content of the ads themselves will hopefully not be x-rated or anything like that. I don't think there's any way of preventing any content like this, though if there are specific URLs you want me to block, I can do that. Angela (talk) 20:35, 23 Sep 2005 (UTC)

That is not possible ! see : w:c:Nietzsche:Accueil :

These links are absolutely not appropriate ! Marc 10:37, 24 Sep 2005 (UTC)

I have examined how ads are selected. The main page contents the word outil and there is an advertisement for technological tools !! With the word historiques > advertisement for blason, armoirie. For the article w:c:Nietzsche:Friedrich Nietzsche, there are ads to stop smoking... I don't understand in this case.

My conclusion is that the method for select advertisements is probably based on words that a page contents.

The problem is not only that there is ads for adults (livres pornographiques et érotiques on the main page), the problem is that the method is very bad in general, and the results are very inappropriate for all cases. Marc 11:52, 24 Sep 2005 (UTC)

I'm sorry, but Wikia has little control over this. The ads are selected by Google, and are meant to be appropriate for all ages. If you are seeing pornographic content there, then I don't think these are coming from Google. Is there any chance you have a virus on your computer that is changing the ads into something else? Angela (talk)

Adding a CGI IRC Portal Edit

Might it be possible to get a CGI IRC portal active for polaqu:'s channel #polaqu, similar to that found here? I would imagine it would be good for fostering a better community there. Mathx314(talk)(email) 00:50, 23 Sep 2005 (UTC)

Done. The channel is now accessible from Angela (talk) 20:35, 23 Sep 2005 (UTC)

Homeworld wiki administrationEdit

Hi, just checking in as I still have not been set as administrator for the wiki I started ( I did notify you be email but either you didn't get it or were too busy to act. I'd just like to know when this is going to happen. Niirfa-sa (talk) 16:14, 26 Sep 2005 (UTC)

Sorry, I missed the email. This is done now. Angela (talk) 06:10, 27 Sep 2005 (UTC)


Hi, may I have admin rights in order to watch after the Detroit: and Judaism: Wikicities? I can do some repairs manually, but can't delete irrelevant pages. --CocoaZen 01:18, 27 Sep 2005 (UTC)

Sure. I'll do that now. Thanks for the offer to help. Angela (talk) 01:42, 27 Sep 2005 (UTC)

Interwiki image accessEdit

From your talk archive, it looks like Wikis can't access images from other Wikis, but is it possible for Memory Alpha to have a type of commons? Someone brought it up on the MA message board and I thought it might be convenient since I have to re-upload the same image four times if I want to add it to the same page across MA. However, take a look at MemoryAlpha:Special:Log/upload and I think you'll see why I came straight to you instead of discussing it on MA: I told it to show 500 at a time and the 500th entry was only on the 24th of September, with the 1000th on the 19th! --Schrei 23:11, 28 Sep 2005 (UTC)

It's not possible yet. It would be best to file a request for it at so it can be implemented when there is time. Angela (talk) 06:12, 29 Sep 2005 (UTC)

Removal of huge segment of this Talk pageEdit

Angela, did you mean to cut so much out while doing your "new header"?

Robin Patterson 01:35, 29 Sep 2005 (UTC)

Yes, I did. I forgot I hadn't already saved the previous edit which was "moving to archive 2", so the edit summary didn't reflect that. Sory for any confusion. Angela (talk) 06:12, 29 Sep 2005 (UTC)

Wikifun vs. Jokebook Edit

Hello Angela,

Subject: Your message: [3], 18:35, 28. Sep 2005 (UTC)

Please change the title from "Sammlung von Witzen" to "Wikifun". This is the name of the wiki and should be used for all languages.

Well, I've noticed that there already exists a project for the collection of English-speaking jokes: The Jokebook. Having two wikis for the same thing is in my opinion not useful. If we start an english-speaking version of Wikifun all pages of the Jokebook should be moved to it. But I can't decide this at my own. Well ... I'm going to write this suggestion on the Jokebook discussion page and see what the Jokebook-community thinks about this. Keep up the good work ;-) -- Achim 16:59, 29 Sep 2005 (UTC)

If the content is accepted in the English Wikibooks, I don't think it should be moved to Wikicities since we have a policy of not forking any existing Wikimedia projects. Angela (talk) 23:49, 29 Sep 2005 (UTC)
Alright, I agree. Please note that Wikifun can be also used very well for collecting funny images or other files in contrast to Jokebook. Anyway I'm occupied enough with the german issue ;-) -- Achim 06:36, 1 Oct 2005 (UTC)

Two things... Edit

First off, the Wiki that you created for me is now totally unneeded, as another one that is now frequently used was made shortly after.

Second, I applied for a Christian Music Wiki almost 2 weeks ago and haven't received a response. Was it rejected or something? - Camalex 21:07, 29 Sep 2005 (UTC)

Sorry, I got a bit behind with the requests but I've replied by email to you about this now. Angela (talk) 23:49, 29 Sep 2005 (UTC)
No problem, thank you ^.^ - Camalex 00:03, 30 Sep 2005 (UTC)

about .doc support Edit

Hi Angela. No you hadn't got back to me, but thanks for doing so. THinking about it, it makes total sense for there not to be .doc support on the wikicities. The virus risk is probably untenable. (Forgive a complacent virus-free Mac user for not thinking about viruses and other malware). And of course macro viruses are platform independent.

Email Edit

I think a mailing list is the cause of this e-mail:

"Hello Nickelodeon-l-owner,

At this time we can offer a small update at our system - BD-MAGAZINE Issue N6! Wow a whole 2 hours of live video? Well, maybe, but probably not. Feauturing fresh girls had fun in dressing room changing clothes, dressing and undressing each other and more make it bigger than your every day site but 2 hours? I doubt it, but who ...


Our great and unique offer: for each subscribtion You get access to another three sites from our portal for 31 days... without any additional payments! Simply subscribe, select and use!"

What's that all about? -Color Printer

See User talk:Color Printer. Angela (talk) 21:29, 1 Oct 2005 (UTC)

Changing image in HowTo Edit

I wonder how to change the left-up image in the HowTo project - any image should be good even empty for now...

An admin needs to do that. Do you have a user name? If so, you can upload an image, then let me know, and I can make it the logo for that wiki. Angela (talk) 22:43, 2 Oct 2005 (UTC)

Falling behind or error?Edit

A few weeks ago I submitted a request for a new wiki devoted to the works of Japanese author Hajime Kanzaka (Slayers, Lost Universe, etc.). I have not received a reply from you yet. Have you simply fallen behind on requests or was there some sort of error that will require me to submit again? --Argy 23:36, 2 Oct 2005 (UTC)

This exists at Angela (talk)

Regarding Gameinfo Edit

I don't understand the problem with just adding guide content to gameinfo. Have you tried to discuss with the users there what changes would be needed? I think it would be a fork of that wiki to start another one so similar to it. Please reply on user talk:Angela since it might take a while for me to notice replies on this page. Angela (talk) 23:48, 29 Sep 2005 (UTC)

Hm, I guess I should check here more often. Anyway, the problem was just that I couldn't work out how to have two distinct interfaces for speedy access to each content type without making it ungainly and/or confusing for editors and visitors alike. However after looking around at a few other wikis and some of the larger wikicities, and especially discovering how the MediaWiki: pages affect the interface, I've worked out pretty much how the solution will work. Things have been so hectic over here that somewhere along the line I completely forgot to keep you updated on this. So, long story short, the other wikicity is no longer necessary. Thanks for all your patience. :) Garrett 09:27, 4 Oct 2005 (UTC)

Database corruption Edit

Hi Angela!

Good to hear from you, if not the best circumstances...!

In reference to your message at User talk:Andrewa, I'm sure that the edit is not mine, despite what the history now says. The edit summary is from one of my edits, but this edit appears to have disappeared completely, it's no longer in the history. I'm afraid I can't remember the exact text of this lost edit, but it was adding a short reply to Pjotr'k's post concerning Frère Roger, not all but blanking the page.

Recovering the lost edit is of no great importance to me, but it would be nice to remove my userid from the blanking. Andrewa 06:45, 5 Oct 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for the reply. Jason is working on resolving the corruption now. Angela (talk)

Copyright Question Edit

I'm honestly not concerned about this, but a number of users of polaqu: have brought this up. Wikicities, as you of course know, uses the GFDL. The main content of the D&D game, including what we use to build rules off of, the System Reference Document, uses another copyright called the Open Gaming License (.RTF file). Since we're all gamers and not lawyers (or even vaguely copyright-informed), any idea of any incompatibilities between the two licenses? Your input would be much appreciated. Mathx314(talk)(email) 23:51, 6 Oct 2005 (UTC)

You've probably noticed by now Angela, but I've answered this since I've been in contact with this license in the past. Of course if you still want to add your thoughts go right ahead. :) Garrett 04:48, 11 Oct 2005 (UTC)
Ok, thanks. Angela (talk) 18:49, 11 Oct 2005 (UTC)

Tucson into Cities Edit

Could you freeze and move the Tucson pages to Cities as soon as is convenient? If possible, preface all page names with Tucson. I was waiting for a timing answer from Kim, but have not heard anything, and there have been not changes to Tucson for over a week. Thanks! (I'll check for answers here.) --CocoaZen 22:12, 9 Oct 2005 (UTC)

Since there are so few pages, and almpst all edited by just one person, it may be safer to manually copy and paste them over unless there's a reason not to. Angela (talk) 17:54, 10 Oct 2005 (UTC)

Spamming in swedish memory alpha! Edit

Hello Angela! Since the creator of the swedish memory alpha hasn't done anything for quite some time, and no one else has admins privligies, I therefore cometh to thee for guidance.

IP addresses and are spamming about stupid stuff, apparently just for fun. Could you please help us by stopping them? Peter R 17:29, 11 Oct 2005 (UTC) (BTW: If you could make me and OnO to admins, we could maybe get this section on the road... After all - we are the only who does anything here :( )

I've made you an admin there. Angela (talk) 18:49, 11 Oct 2005 (UTC)

Star Trek Fanon Edit

It is my intention that eventually fanon will be added to the non-canon wiki, after a review process. Such a process has not yet been formed because it has not been necessary. (We have had three fanon entries so far, and all were copied directly from The Hidden Frontier wiki without permission. For that reason, they were promptly deleted) There are many fine sources that are not liscensed by Paramount. The most comprehensive Trek timeline I know of (over a megabyte of reference and commentary in .txt format) includes almost any date that has been published in print, but even that does not include any but the highest quality of Internet fanon.

USS Audacious is a prime example of fanon that is not supported by canon. Allow me to demonstrate. The following is a page describing the ship. Portions in bold are supported by canon or resonable extrapolation. Italics are my own comments.

The USS Audacious is the only vessel in Starfleet that can fire while cloaked. Why should it be entirely unique in such an important way? This is a classic part of the "super-ship," which makes it all but invulnerable. The Audacious is equiped with a bio nero [sic: bio-neural] artificial intelligence. A holographic representation of the Audacious A.I. is referred to as AUDI. AUDI can assume multi [sic] emergency subroutines. I will admit, this gives RPGers more freedom, but it's simply not in keeping with Star Trek ideals. If machines can explore for us, why send ships?
E.C.H - Emegency Command Hologram This was shown as a prototype
E.E.H - Emergency Engineer Hologram
E.M.H - Emergency Medical Hologram
The Audacious is outfitted with bio gel packs throughout the enter [sic] vessel giving her a fast response time to any orders givin [sic] to her.

While none of this is absolutely impossible, assuming the right backstory, a good deal of it is not plausible within the Star Trek canon. USS Audacious attempts to get around that by claiming to be launched 45 years after the latest Star Trek movie. If one accepts that though, it is remarkably slow. Ships 50 years older than it are just as fast.

The real problems would come up when ten other RPGs claimed to have the only ship that can fire while cloaked, are far faster, and have a never-before seen "giga-phaser" sticking out from their saucer. There must be some standards for inclusion, a problem that I believe has been pointed out for Wikipedia itself. On this wiki, that standard has so far been Paramount's license. There are contradictions within licensed products, but no more so than in canon Trek.

I would be happy to set up a review process for fanon material, but I doubt "USS AUDACIOUS" will make the cut. --Chops 04:21, 20 Oct 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for the detailed reply. I guess a new wiki will be best. Angela (talk) 20:42, 20 Oct 2005 (UTC)

AW COME ON!! That detailed reply was VERY short sighted and done with EXTREME ignorance.. This person didn't even read the ENTIRE website.. Not to mention, The USS Audadacious ( )no longers fires while cloaked. And thats mostly because someone less lazy and cowardly simply e-mailed me their opinion.. Yeah me.. "The person who created USS Audacious" They conveyed some of the stuff Angela or whom ever wrote that long winded and in-accurate summery of the USS Audacious.. To DATE, there has been (NO) major rpg that centered its base around a ship that fires while cloaked! Coulda, Woulda, Shoulda's are great but could you be juuuus a lil more fair and base your blind opinions on other rpg sites with ships that fire while cloaked? I mean DUDE! Did you even roleplay on the Audacious? (BEFORE) you formed this opinion? are you even a Star trek roleplayer? If so.. what sim? what website? how long? My guess.. you aint been playing long enough to spit.. Its NOT just fannon.. its a FREAKIN GAME! A (ROLEPLAY) game. Gee-zuss!!! the name roleplay is almost on EVERY page to the freakin website! Just fire out short sighted opinions with out even freakin emailing or private messaging the person who created the website.. In this (ROLEPLAY) game. You stick within a reasonable Star trek genre and premise then you create your own.. Its a game (BASED) of of Star trek! and NO its nowhere NEAR Star Trek: Hidden Frontier.. That fact that you even typed that shows me how clueless you are to online roleplay! The USS Audacious is a online game not an online Fan movie like (Startrek H.F)If you make it completely CANON then you might as well stick with roleplaying already established characters.. whats the fun in THAT??!!! Fan fic (R.P.G.)allows others to add new characters.. NEW IDEAS and most of all fun to something we consider to be a "GAME" I mean talk about "Don't hate the playah hate the game?"

P.S. You wrote something else that tickled me with laughter..

Angela - copied directly from The Hidden Frontier wiki without permission. Star trek: Hidden frontier did NOT start off with permission. They started of EXACTLY the way the USS Audacious rpg started.. Just a bunch of fans expressing themselves creativily through Startrek.. I'm sure some of them might CLAIM they started off legit! But truth is.. They are fanfic, fannon or any other clever nic name you can give us Trekkies/Trekkers, who add to Star trek!! I am SO stunned and dissappointed that you didn't even attempt to learn more about something before posting an opinion! Shame on you!

er... who are you? And what are you talking about? Are you objecting to this being on its own wiki? Are you talking to me or to Chops? I'm afraid I don't understand your post or why you are being so rude on my talk page. Angela (talk)

Wow.. Uh.. I thought I was pretty clear I was responding to the post about USS Audacious.. Uh.. I even mentioned that I was the owner of the USS Audacious rpg.. Although I must admitt it gives me a sinking feeling of guilt that my response was rude.. It was in response to whom ever made that comment about the USS Audacious. It was flat out wrong.. "AND" it really appeared that the comments about the USS Audacious was based on it being fan fic or fanon and thats not fair.. it would be like comparing Tiger woods to Micheal Vic.. one plays golf and one plays Football.. The USS Audacious is a Star trek roleplay game being judged off of some kind of Fanon.. The ONLY reason I responded to this ad was because it is listed on the YAHOO search engine! Lots of fans of the USS Audacious rpg ( )saw your ad on Yahoo and came here to read the unfair comments posted here.. Naturally some of them informed me about it and I responded in kind.. I realllllly wish I would of calmed down BEFORE I posted because I fear my angery reply distracted more attention to my anger instead of the point I was trying to convey.. I was rude.. and for that I am sorry. But there was a line about my RPG being copied from the fanon website STAR TREK: Hidden Frontier.. which was mind blowing because the USS Audacious roleplay started out as a roleplay by email websited based on YAHOO GROUPS dated way back in 1998! THATS BEFORE Star trek H.F. began to be popular enough for anyone from the USS Audacious roleplay group, to copy their plot. I regret making any offensive comments but I do feel vindicated in stating that the first ad on this page about the USS Audacious was unfair.. I will leave you alone now..

Hi, First I must ask you, Who died and made you the official Star Trek Know-it-all?

I have been a Trek fan probably far longer than you have and I can tell you that this little article of yours in no way supports what Mr. Gene Roddenbury had in mind for his vision.

What happened to "Open Mindedness" or "Creativness" Those of us who actually roleplay on this site are usually very reserved and NEVER go around badmouthing the other guy who is just trying to have a little fun. Unfortunately there are those who for some reason can't get past their single mindedness. "Oh you can't do that! It's not in the book!"

It just seems to me that there are still some who just can't see past the original. They think that "It's gotta be this way or else!" is it and there can be no other. If that is the case then we might all just as well start living under a communistic rule.

Here is another question for you. What about all of those novels that have been written that don't conform to your way of thinking that are all sold under the "Star Trek" label, yet have their very own, and unique, story lines? Are those not up to your standards as well?

We just wanted to create something that was a bit different than what other people have out there. We wanted to give people more of a choice and to give them the chance to show their writing talents.

Oh, and before I forget, The Audi can fire while cloaked, but it looses ALL power for just under 2 seconds. If you would have bothered to read the ENTIRE ship's specs you would have known this. She is NOT a "Super-ship" By any means.

Also, the Audi AI you mentioned was created by ME and was based on the "Doctor" from Voyager. Remember? He had a personality and doubled as a Command hologram as well as the ship's only Doctor. Any true Trek fan would have known this.

Thank you for your time and I too shall leave you alone.

Ric Blackhawk XO, USS Audacious

WikiPagan LocalSettings.php Edit

I was wandering if it might be possible to get a change in our Local Settings, namely adding a namespace for pagan related news stories (News:). Could I do this myself, or should I request someone from Wikicities do it? -- Redge (Talk) 12:41, 23 Oct 2005 (UTC)

I'll add that now. There's a help page on this at Help:Custom namespaces. Angela (talk) 21:41, 23 Oct 2005 (UTC)
Thanx! -- Redge (Talk) 22:08, 23 Oct 2005 (UTC)

Indefinitely blocking uncaught proxiesEdit

Hi. Is it acceptable to ban proxies which SORBS missed, or would that be useless? – Jello2 00:51, 25 Oct 2005 (UTC)

I would recommend blocking them. Angela (talk) 06:07, 25 Oct 2005 (UTC)


Hi Angela, I started working on the wikicity page that you set up for me at Jellochuu returned it to its original state saying, "(revert to last version by Angela: this is not the appropriate wiki, please use" and re-set it up there. I'm fine with that, but since you set it up, I wanted to know if this was alright?

- OA164

Yes, the wiki itself is at OABSA is just a short description about that wiki so people can see which wikis are available in a central location. Angela (talk) 11:01, 26 Oct 2005 (UTC)

lost request for a wiki Edit

About a month ago I've made a request for a wiki called oneliners; it has not been accepted yet, nor it can be seen in the List of rejected wikicities: should I fill again the request form?

I've also begun a couple of articles on the scratchpad ( - in italian), to try the ideas I had about the structure, but i would prefer not to add too much content that needs to be moved if the wikicity is approved, unless necessary. Elena 15:34, 27 Oct 2005 (UTC)

Inserting special characters Edit

Angela, Wikipedia has a great entry field for special characters underneath their edit windows, as seen here. Since my own Wiki has a fair number of special character entries (fr'ex, see Æon Society, Norça, Ημερεσ Πυροσ), I poked at trying to incorporate it myself.

However, it appears to use Javascript, or at least employs Javascript code located elsewhere. I may be missing something, but is there a way I can include Javascript code so I can implement this special character box? Thanks. --IanWatson 18:33, 28 Oct 2005 (UTC)

See bug:176. An extension needs to be installed before this can work. Angela (talk) 18:22, 29 Oct 2005 (UTC)
Until it's fixed, the material can still be put in place and used for copy-and-paste. Even on Wikipedia I use copy-and-paste sometimes, especially if correcting several characters at once. Robin Patterson 21:18, 8 Nov 2005 (UTC)

DynamicPageList2 Edit

Could you please install DynamicPageList2 for Uncyclopedia?

As discussed on IRC, this wil need to wait until we're on MediaWiki 1.5. Angela (talk)

Adopt a WikiEdit

May I adopt the Archaeology wiki and become an admin? Thank you. --Lilio 08:34, 30 Oct 2005 (UTC)

replied at User talk:Lilio. Angela (talk) 19:17, 30 Oct 2005 (UTC)

Namespaces -- how to access? Edit

Angela -- Thanks for offering and creating the new namespaces "Speculation" and "Meta" on the Dragaera wiki.

I'm curious how one finds the related page to a given mainspace page now. If I am reading page "X" and I want to read "Speculation:X" or "Meta:X", I can type this into the location bar, but I don't seem to have any handy links. Getting back to the main page is also problematic.

Perhaps a tab at the top of the page, or at least a link in the toolbox, for each new space, would make this easier. Or maybe there's another way I haven't seen yet.

Can you fill me in on how this usually works please? Please reply to the main talk page here

Thanks so much,

Steve Rapaport Steve the Younger 18:05, 31 Oct 2005 (UTC)

replied at dragaera
Thanks, Angela! Nice hack, hope it's kept.

Sitenotice on words: Edit

That's a fantastic idea (and a true time-saver). Thanks a million! --Merovingian 04:52, 2 Nov 2005 (UTC)

#wikipedia-hr Edit

Would you be so kind and add to the list of allowed channels on CGI::IRC #wikipedia-hr channel? SpeedyGonsales 13:13, 2 Nov 2005 (UTC)

This is now at Angela (talk) 16:53, 2 Nov 2005 (UTC)

What happened to Edit

I was willing to take over but the wiki wouldn't let me.SGCommand

That wiki became gameinfo. Angela (talk) 16:53, 2 Nov 2005 (UTC)

Adopt Hitchhiker Edit

I would like to adopt the hitchhikers wiki please. I am a long time DNA fan and would be very intrested in this thank you.

Ryan Boykin
Email: ryancb06 at gmail dot com

Sports Log Edit

That Jimbo block was a test, and I didnt mean anything by it. Can yo restore admin access for me there, because i have a few things I need to do wth t that require admin access--Sporthog 16:45, 5 Nov 2005 (UTC)

"SuperShadoh" on Star Wars Wikicity Edit

The same vandal who dropped by the other day is back, under a slightly different username. Perhaps a range block is in order, as you suggested? Thanks, — Silly Dan 20:24, 5 Nov 2005 (UTC)

On ...Edit

I'd like to revive it. Can I get admin access? --Artemiswolfang

Go ahead. Once you've made some edits, I canm give you admin access, but there's nothing to administer whilst it has no content and no users. You might find the Tutorial useful. Angela (talk) 02:04, 9 Nov 2005 (UTC)

Regarding why I blanked GaazikettiEdit

I was trying effectively to move Gaaziketti to FrathWiki. (Probably there's a more efficient way I could've done this that I'm not aware of.) If you want to contact me in future please go there, I am "Fofofo". Oh and you may delete Gaaziketti from ConlangWikiCity if it's still hanging around there. Cheers

Upgrade to MediaWiki 1.5? Edit

From the MediaWiki 1.5 announcement, it looks like the inputbox extension is to be installed? Any chance of getting m:DynamicPageList as well? These have both been requested before on Uncyclopedia:Uncyclopedia:Report a problem but were waiting for the MediaWiki 1.5 upgrade as neither is compatible with the old MediaWiki software. --carlb 20:59, 11 Nov 2005 (UTC)


Thanks. :) --carlb 21:14, 11 Nov 2005 (UTC)

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