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{{Tocright}}When [[Help:Start a new community|creating a new community]], you may want to consider whether a community on that topic already exists. For example, if you want to create a community to document information about ''Star Wars'', ask yourself if your community will be offering something that [[w:c:starwars|Wookieepedia]] does not. If your idea does not offer something new, we’d suggest that you not create a '''duplicate community''' but instead that you offer your expertise on the communities that already exist.
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When [[Help:Start a new community|creating a new community]], you may want to consider whether a community on that topic already exists. For example, if you want to create a community to document information about ''Star Wars'', ask yourself if your community will be offering something that [[w:c:starwars|Wookieepedia]] does not. If your idea does not offer something new, we’d suggest that you not create a '''duplicate community''' but instead that you offer your expertise on the communities that already exist.
 
   
 
== Find a niche topic ==
 
== Find a niche topic ==
 
Let’s stick with the example of a ''Star Wars'' community. Creating a community that is meant to serve as a comprehensive resource will likely not yield you any results. Wookieepedia has a years-long head start and already documents most information from the ''Star Wars'' franchise. Because of that, if you want to create a ''Star Wars'' community, you should find a specific topic within the ''Star Wars'' universe to create a community about instead of just an all-purpose ''Star Wars'' community.
 
Let’s stick with the example of a ''Star Wars'' community. Creating a community that is meant to serve as a comprehensive resource will likely not yield you any results. Wookieepedia has a years-long head start and already documents most information from the ''Star Wars'' franchise. Because of that, if you want to create a ''Star Wars'' community, you should find a specific topic within the ''Star Wars'' universe to create a community about instead of just an all-purpose ''Star Wars'' community.
   
[[File:Admin Forum Dressing your wiki up for the holidays! - Wikia Community Central.jpg|thumb|400px|center|Think carefully about your topic before you decide if you should click the "Start a wiki" button or contribute to an existing one.]]
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[[File:Start-A-Wiki.png|thumb|400px|left|Think carefully about your topic before you decide if you should click the "Start a wiki" button or contribute to an existing one.]]
   
 
There are already some prominent examples of communities that have done this. The [[w:c:swtor|''Star Wars: The Old Republic'' community]] documents information from the ''Star Wars: The Old Republic'' video game, while the [[w:c:legostarwars|LEGO<sup>®</sup> ''Star Wars'' community]] documents information from the LEGO<sup>®</sup> ''Star Wars'' franchise. Other topics have included [[w:c:swfanon|''Star Wars'' Fanon]] for fan fiction.
 
There are already some prominent examples of communities that have done this. The [[w:c:swtor|''Star Wars: The Old Republic'' community]] documents information from the ''Star Wars: The Old Republic'' video game, while the [[w:c:legostarwars|LEGO<sup>®</sup> ''Star Wars'' community]] documents information from the LEGO<sup>®</sup> ''Star Wars'' franchise. Other topics have included [[w:c:swfanon|''Star Wars'' Fanon]] for fan fiction.
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If the end result of your effort to create a niche community is to cover the exact same information as the main community, then your community has proven to be an unnecessary duplicate. You want to offer something that the main community does not. For example, Wookieepedia covers in-universe information (biographies of characters, timelines of events, and so forth), but the ''Star Wars: The Old Republic'' community covers gameplay information for the video game. That allows ''The Old Republic'' community to be a resource for gamers in a way that Wookieepedia is not, and it is what makes ''The Old Republic'' community successful. That is the type of niche topic you want to find and cultivate.
 
If the end result of your effort to create a niche community is to cover the exact same information as the main community, then your community has proven to be an unnecessary duplicate. You want to offer something that the main community does not. For example, Wookieepedia covers in-universe information (biographies of characters, timelines of events, and so forth), but the ''Star Wars: The Old Republic'' community covers gameplay information for the video game. That allows ''The Old Republic'' community to be a resource for gamers in a way that Wookieepedia is not, and it is what makes ''The Old Republic'' community successful. That is the type of niche topic you want to find and cultivate.
   
[[File:SWTORWiki.png|thumb|510px|center|''[[w:c:swtor|Star Wars: The Old Republic]]'' is a community that has successfully found a niche topic.]]
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[[File:SWTORWiki.png|thumb|270px|right|''[[w:c:swtor|Star Wars: The Old Republic]]'' is a community that has successfully found a niche topic.]]
   
 
Now that you’ve found that niche topic, you want to promote that. Make your main page say things that are clear in how your community differs from the main one. You don’t need to actually list differences in comparison, but there could be key buzzwords that provide a reader with the means to understand that difference. For example, a video game community like ''The Old Republic'' Wiki could say something akin to "a comprehensive resource for gamers," which shows that it would specifically target a gamer as opposed to someone looking for historical information on ''Star Wars'' lore.
 
Now that you’ve found that niche topic, you want to promote that. Make your main page say things that are clear in how your community differs from the main one. You don’t need to actually list differences in comparison, but there could be key buzzwords that provide a reader with the means to understand that difference. For example, a video game community like ''The Old Republic'' Wiki could say something akin to "a comprehensive resource for gamers," which shows that it would specifically target a gamer as opposed to someone looking for historical information on ''Star Wars'' lore.
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== Start a friendship with the main community ==
 
== Start a friendship with the main community ==
 
[[File:GoldenGateBridge.jpg|thumb|right|250px|Build bridges with other communities so you can work with each other, not against each other.]]
 
One of the best ways to help promote your topic is to be on good and friendly terms with the main community. Take the ''Star Wars'' communities as an example. Wookieepedia lists LEGO<sup>®</sup> ''Star Wars'', ''Star Wars: The Old Republic'', and other ''Star Wars'' communities and websites as their official friends. That gives those communities a noticeable place on Wookieepedia’s main page, and it acknowledges the fact that these communities share an overall topic but are offering their readers and contributors different things. Wookieepedia has chosen to be a resource that documents the in-universe lore of the franchise, so they can direct gamers and gameplay enthusiasts to the ''Star Wars: The Old Republic'' community. That makes that friendship a partnership that benefits them both and respects both topics.
 
One of the best ways to help promote your topic is to be on good and friendly terms with the main community. Take the ''Star Wars'' communities as an example. Wookieepedia lists LEGO<sup>®</sup> ''Star Wars'', ''Star Wars: The Old Republic'', and other ''Star Wars'' communities and websites as their official friends. That gives those communities a noticeable place on Wookieepedia’s main page, and it acknowledges the fact that these communities share an overall topic but are offering their readers and contributors different things. Wookieepedia has chosen to be a resource that documents the in-universe lore of the franchise, so they can direct gamers and gameplay enthusiasts to the ''Star Wars: The Old Republic'' community. That makes that friendship a partnership that benefits them both and respects both topics.
   
[[File:GoldenGateBridge.jpg|thumb|right|250px|Build bridges with other communities so you can work with each other, not against each other.]]
 
 
Even if there is no official friend process like there is with Wookieepedia, having a relationship and an acknowledged and respected difference in the focus of the topic is a good thing. It allows both communities to co-exist under the umbrella of one topic while respectfully working towards shared yet slightly different goals.
 
Even if there is no official friend process like there is with Wookieepedia, having a relationship and an acknowledged and respected difference in the focus of the topic is a good thing. It allows both communities to co-exist under the umbrella of one topic while respectfully working towards shared yet slightly different goals.
   
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Instead of debating the issue, try to become friends as outlined earlier. It really is the best thing for everyone!
 
Instead of debating the issue, try to become friends as outlined earlier. It really is the best thing for everyone!
   
== See also ==
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== Merging Communities ==
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If you feel like your community should be merged with another, you should start by discussing it with members of both communities. If an agreement has been made on both sites, see [[Help:Merging communities]] on how to merge them.
* Learn how to [[Help:Start a new community|create a new community]]
 
* Learn how to [[Help:Merging communities|merge two communities]] if you want to combine your efforts
 
   
 
== Further help and feedback ==
 
== Further help and feedback ==
 
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{{Help and feedback section}}
 
 
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When creating a new community, you may want to consider whether a community on that topic already exists. For example, if you want to create a community to document information about Star Wars, ask yourself if your community will be offering something that Wookieepedia does not. If your idea does not offer something new, we’d suggest that you not create a duplicate community but instead that you offer your expertise on the communities that already exist.

Find a niche topic

Let’s stick with the example of a Star Wars community. Creating a community that is meant to serve as a comprehensive resource will likely not yield you any results. Wookieepedia has a years-long head start and already documents most information from the Star Wars franchise. Because of that, if you want to create a Star Wars community, you should find a specific topic within the Star Wars universe to create a community about instead of just an all-purpose Star Wars community.

Start-A-Wiki

Think carefully about your topic before you decide if you should click the "Start a wiki" button or contribute to an existing one.

There are already some prominent examples of communities that have done this. The Star Wars: The Old Republic community documents information from the Star Wars: The Old Republic video game, while the LEGO® Star Wars community documents information from the LEGO® Star Wars franchise. Other topics have included Star Wars Fanon for fan fiction.

With that said, you want to figure out if you can create and nourish a sub-topic of the overall topic. Competing with or overtaking a community that has been established for years is highly unlikely, but further developing a sub-topic in its own community is certainly possible. Besides, one of the core philosophies of community building is collaboration, not competition. You should find a way to co-exist, and a niche topic can do just that.

Create and promote uniqueness

So, you’ve created a niche community. Let’s say your community is called the Jedi Wiki, and your goal is to provide lots of great information all about Jedi. There are lots of things you can do with a niche topic like that, but you need to promote the fact that your topic is offering something that the main community does not. To do that, you need to offer something unique.

If the end result of your effort to create a niche community is to cover the exact same information as the main community, then your community has proven to be an unnecessary duplicate. You want to offer something that the main community does not. For example, Wookieepedia covers in-universe information (biographies of characters, timelines of events, and so forth), but the Star Wars: The Old Republic community covers gameplay information for the video game. That allows The Old Republic community to be a resource for gamers in a way that Wookieepedia is not, and it is what makes The Old Republic community successful. That is the type of niche topic you want to find and cultivate.

SWTORWiki

Star Wars: The Old Republic is a community that has successfully found a niche topic.

Now that you’ve found that niche topic, you want to promote that. Make your main page say things that are clear in how your community differs from the main one. You don’t need to actually list differences in comparison, but there could be key buzzwords that provide a reader with the means to understand that difference. For example, a video game community like The Old Republic Wiki could say something akin to "a comprehensive resource for gamers," which shows that it would specifically target a gamer as opposed to someone looking for historical information on Star Wars lore.

In the same way that you can attract contributors to your site, consider how your community is promoted in general. If you have a Facebook or Twitter page, for example, promote it in a way that showcases its uniqueness. If you are promoting a community like The Old Republic, promote it in a way that targets gamers. That way, your core audience can know what your topic is and gravitate to it.

Start a friendship with the main community

GoldenGateBridge

Build bridges with other communities so you can work with each other, not against each other.

One of the best ways to help promote your topic is to be on good and friendly terms with the main community. Take the Star Wars communities as an example. Wookieepedia lists LEGO® Star Wars, Star Wars: The Old Republic, and other Star Wars communities and websites as their official friends. That gives those communities a noticeable place on Wookieepedia’s main page, and it acknowledges the fact that these communities share an overall topic but are offering their readers and contributors different things. Wookieepedia has chosen to be a resource that documents the in-universe lore of the franchise, so they can direct gamers and gameplay enthusiasts to the Star Wars: The Old Republic community. That makes that friendship a partnership that benefits them both and respects both topics.

Even if there is no official friend process like there is with Wookieepedia, having a relationship and an acknowledged and respected difference in the focus of the topic is a good thing. It allows both communities to co-exist under the umbrella of one topic while respectfully working towards shared yet slightly different goals.

Dispute resolution

Of course, that friendship may not always happen. There may be a main community that wants to be everything and own everything about a topic, and they may not like the fact that another community is competing with that. For your part, don’t worry about that. Even if your community is a duplicate, there’s nothing inherently wrong with that. Fandom does allow them, after all.

Should you find yourself in a dispute, the best thing to do is to ignore it unless it becomes a disruption on your community, in which case you have administrative tools to help with that. You can also contact Fandom for help and advice in that regard. Remember that you are free to create a community with a similar topic to one that already exists, just try to make it somewhat different as advised earlier in the page.

Now, the following advice is for those who are disputing the new community’s existence: Unless the new community is directly copying content from your community without attributing it under the terms of the Creative Commons copyright license, there is no need for you to make an issue out of its existence. If you find yourself annoyed or upset that it was created, the best thing to do is let it go. You are already on an established and successful community, so you really have nothing to worry about.

Instead of debating the issue, try to become friends as outlined earlier. It really is the best thing for everyone!

Merging Communities

If you feel like your community should be merged with another, you should start by discussing it with members of both communities. If an agreement has been made on both sites, see Help:Merging communities on how to merge them.

Further help and feedback