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19:16:11 * Forerunner joined #wikia-gaming
19:17:13 <Forerunner> hi
19:17:37 <PanSola> hi there
19:17:38 <PanSola> (-:
19:18:19 <PanSola> I forgot which wikis you are involved in. Halo fanon?
19:22:35 <Forerunner> Resident Evil, Dino Crisis and Halo Fanon
19:23:31 <PanSola> ah yeah (-:
19:23:40 * TwoTailedFox joined #wikia-gaming
19:23:45 <PanSola> did RE get a surge of traffic because of the movie?
19:23:49 <PanSola> hi TwoTailed (-:
19:24:24 <Forerunner> a bit
19:24:47 <Forerunner> but the Movie-releated updates were all made by same person
19:24:54 <Forerunner> 4got the username tho
19:25:02 <PanSola> hm
19:25:38 <TwoTailedFox> I think the Yu-Gi-Oh! Wikia owes all it's popularity by word-of-mouth
19:26:11 <TwoTailedFox> Everyone seems to use it for reference, it's even outstripping Netrep in popularly in some areas
19:26:24 <PanSola> between Yu-Gi-Oh card players? or between the anime watchers?
19:26:33 <TwoTailedFox> Mostly card players
19:26:38 <PanSola> cool
19:26:46 * PanSola is unfamiliar with what Netrep is
19:26:48 <TwoTailedFox> But, we have a few Anime/Manga buffs
19:26:53 <TwoTailedFox> www.netrep.net
19:27:05 <TwoTailedFox> Basically what we emulated, but they have a web-based API
19:27:18 <TwoTailedFox> And it only covers English cards
19:27:39 <PanSola> hmm
19:28:17 <PanSola> do you think the web-based API is a big draw?
19:28:38 <TwoTailedFox> More for them than anyone else
19:28:57 <TwoTailedFox> Their searching system is built around it
19:30:28 <PanSola> are players of one trading card game often players of many other trading card games?
19:30:37 * PanSola is trying to understand the gamer dymaic of TCGs
19:31:29 <PanSola> or at least, using yourself as an example, are you a fan of other trading card games?
19:31:40 <TwoTailedFox> Depends. Generally, People go from Yu-Gi-Oh -> Magic, or vice versa, they rarely play both simultaniously
19:31:52 <TwoTailedFox> Depends. Magic is OK, but it doesn't interest me
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19:31:59 <PanSola> hi Dantman
19:32:09 * Dantman|afk is now known as Nadir_Seen_Fire
19:32:32 * Forerunner is now known as Biohazardfan14
19:32:37 <PanSola> two: so other TCGs are even less of interest to most TCGers in your view?
19:32:48 <PanSola> o_O all the nickchanign is gonna get me so confused
19:35:09 <Biohazardfan14> lol i'm just changing into something more suited.
19:35:12 <PanSola> TwoTailed: do you think an ex-Magic player (converted to Yu-Gi-Oh) might be interested in contributing to a MTG wiki (or vice versa)
19:35:41 <PanSola> ie, "even though I no longer play it, I used to be a fan, and therefore interested in helping with the wiki"
19:38:55 <TwoTailedFox> I think MTG has a huge potential as a Wikia.
19:39:43 <TwoTailedFox> As for Yu-Gi-Oh!, we have several non-players contributing to the game-playing sections
19:41:12 <Biohazardfan14> NOPE
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19:41:21 <Biohazardfan14> you can't make any other
19:41:31 <Biohazardfan14> tried multiple times
19:41:34 <PanSola|afk> sorry got disconnected, didn see anyting after " I think MTG has a huge potential as a Wikia."
19:41:41 <Biohazardfan14> to make the Platinum Star
19:41:44 <Biohazardfan14> doesn't wok
19:41:53 <Biohazardfan14> not even Double Star: cancels them out
19:42:22 <PanSola|afk> TwoTailed: do you used to play any TCG befroe Yu-Gi-Oh?
19:42:24 <Biohazardfan14> so basicly you can't make medium wiki size
19:42:36 <Biohazardfan14> only ons less than 500 + ones above
19:43:03 <PanSola|afk> there is a possible way to add an extra level
19:43:12 <PanSola|afk> you'd have to create a new template for it
19:43:15 <Biohazardfan14> !!!!!?
19:43:16 <PanSola|afk> and upload a new image for it
19:43:19 <Biohazardfan14> i know
19:43:21 <Biohazardfan14> i tried to
19:43:27 <Biohazardfan14> of course just the coeding
19:43:35 <Biohazardfan14> no need to make a template that may not work
19:43:39 <PanSola|afk> heh
19:43:46 <PanSola|afk> well teh image needs to exist
19:43:47 <Biohazardfan14> irony
19:43:58 <Biohazardfan14> hm
19:44:04 <Biohazardfan14> i'll try that them k
19:44:17 <PanSola|afk> sure
19:44:30 <PanSola|afk> what's your cutoff for the platinum gonna be?
19:45:21 * PanSola has quit (Nick collision from services.)
19:45:23 * PanSola|afk is now known as PanSola
19:45:58 <Biohazardfan14> dunno
19:46:14 <Biohazardfan14> what about double gold for 1000?
19:46:19 <Biohazardfan14> 5000 gets platinum
19:46:32 <Biohazardfan14> zgenuine articles
19:46:40 <PanSola> do you know how many are over 5000?
19:47:19 <Biohazardfan14> OOOOOOOOOOO
19:47:21 <Biohazardfan14> maybe none
19:47:26 <Biohazardfan14> i'll check'
19:47:33 <PanSola> lol
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19:49:45 * Speckle|Away left #wikia-gaming ("Poof.")
19:49:59 <Biohazardfan14> what about 2500 instead?
19:50:11 <Biohazardfan14> theres a couple in there
19:50:15 <PanSola> hehe
19:50:30 <PanSola> actually I think at least 10 are over 5000
19:50:37 * Otter-Man joined #wikia-gaming
19:50:48 <PanSola> hi there otter
19:50:52 <Otter-Man> Hey
19:51:24 <Biohazardfan14> this is the coding
19:51:27 <Biohazardfan14>
Wiki Name
19:51:29 <PanSola> we are just semi-chatting right now before things really gets started
19:51:31 <Otter-Man> it's not as crowded here as I thought it would be
19:51:33 <Biohazardfan14> can't make it from that
19:51:48 <PanSola> biohazard: well you odn't have access to CSS
19:51:58 <Biohazardfan14> ?
19:52:02 <PanSola> so you won't have the ability to affect what class="buttonstar" does
19:52:13 <PanSola> Otter-Man: last week we had mroe people
19:52:28 <PanSola> I guess noon is too early for people on the WEst Coast America
19:54:25 <PanSola> hmm
19:55:57 * Simon_rjh joined #wikia-gaming
19:56:01 <PanSola> hi there
19:56:02 <PanSola> (-:
19:56:05 <Simon_rjh> hi
19:57:07 <PanSola> TwoTailedFox: do you used to play any trading card games before Yu-Gi-Oh?
19:57:57 <TwoTailedFox> I played Pokemon and Mah=gic briefly
19:58:22 <Otter-Man> I used to play Pokemon TCG before...
19:58:30 <Otter-Man> Still like pokemon, don't like the TCG
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19:58:44 <PanSola> hi Phil
19:59:00 <Biohazardfan14> yay Phil.e
19:59:11 <Phil_E|Away> hi :D
19:59:57 <PanSola> Kirkburn: are you with us?
20:00:05 <Kirkburn> I am
20:00:08 <PanSola> (-:
20:00:37 * Phil_E|Away is now known as Phil_E
20:00:45 <PanSola> ok lets do introductions: which wikis you are involved in, and if you are founder/admin/reguar-user on each of the wikis
20:01:03 <PanSola> I'm an admin on GuildWiki, and I founded the (semi-abandoned) Chinese Guild Wars wiki
20:01:36 <PanSola> everyone: please talk at once
20:02:12 <Kirkburn> I'm admin on WoWWiki, and I'm looking after several nascent wikis for upcoming games
20:02:49 <PanSola> oh yeah I've also started editing the Gundam Wiki, but not sure if that one will grow to eventually cover games or not
20:03:03 <Biohazardfan14> I'm Head admin of Resident Evil Wiki and Dino Crisis Wiki, and co-admin of abandonedfrench Halo
20:03:09 <Otter-Man> I'm from RuneScape Wiki, in the process of becoming an admin, and I'm working on the Custom Robo Wiki.
20:04:28 <Phil_E> I'm from Halopedia, bureaucrat of Wii Wiki, founder of Mario Wiki, only really active on the first
20:04:56 <Phil_E> also made a few edits on Half Life and Ghost Recon wiki
20:04:59 <PanSola> ooo the Wii Wiki. I have always wanted to suggest it be named the Wiiki
20:05:02 <Phil_E> *wikis
20:05:03 <TwoTailedFox> I'm the founder of the Yu-Gi-Oh! Wikia, we're currently in the process of centralising all of our data into fewer articles.
20:05:07 <Phil_E> hehe
20:05:47 <PanSola> warpath: are you with us or afk?
20:06:01 * Van_Halen joined #wikia-gaming
20:06:06 <PanSola> hi Van Halen
20:06:24 <Van_Halen> hey
20:06:27 <PanSola> we are doing introductions right now. Which wikis you are from, and whether you are founder/admin/reg-user on any of them
20:06:49 <Van_Halen> Rswiki and sometimes Yu-gi-oh and uncyclopedia
20:07:07 <Van_Halen> and ed edd and eddy
20:07:20 <Van_Halen> Im only admin on ed edd and eddy
20:07:33 <PanSola> what's "ed edd and eddy"? o_O
20:07:40 * PanSola is ignorant
20:07:57 <PanSola> Simon_rjh and Nadir_Seen_Fire: please introduce yoruselves
20:08:04 <PanSola> (-:
20:08:08 <Phil_E> ed, edd, 'n' eddy is a cartoon :)
20:08:12 <Van_Halen> ed edd and eddy = awesome tv show
20:08:13 <PanSola> oo
20:08:15 <Phil_E> (hilarious too, IMHO)
20:08:20 <Nadir_Seen_Fire> T_T no lurking!?
20:08:24 <Phil_E> lol
20:08:29 <PanSola> lurk after you self-introduced
20:08:42 <PanSola> Van_Halen: any "ed-it" jokes on that wiki? d-:
20:08:49 <Phil_E> haha
20:09:15 <Van_Halen> lolz
20:09:39 * PanSola waves at Simon_rjh
20:10:06 * Charitwo joined #wikia-gaming
20:10:10 <PanSola> hi Charitwo
20:10:14 <Phil_E> rar Charitwo
20:10:16 <Nadir_Seen_Fire> Head of Wikia ACG here lurking for 2 reasons... It's possible someone may at some point start a project similar to Wikia ACG but about gaming... The two would meet on a number of wiki and it's good to already be familiar with the community... Also, ^_^ the career I'm starting is in game development...
20:10:16 <Charitwo> rar
20:10:27 <PanSola> we are doing intros right now: which wikis you are from, if you are founder/admin/user on each of those
20:10:28 <Nadir_Seen_Fire> there... that good!?
20:10:39 * Nadir_Seen_Fire can't list all of his...
20:10:46 <PanSola> nadir: ok, you can lurk now
20:10:55 * Nadir_Seen_Fire is now known as Dantman|Sleepy
20:10:57 <PanSola> (-:
20:11:01 <Charitwo> FFXIclopedia and StrategyWiki (non-wiki)
20:11:04 <PanSola> hey, I said lurk, not sleep!
20:11:07 <Charitwo> non-wikia*
20:11:22 <Dantman|Sleepy> Not sleeping... Sleepy...
20:11:27 <PanSola> heh ok
20:11:28 <Charitwo> admin and user respectively
20:11:28 <Phil_E> lol
20:11:32 <PanSola> nice
20:11:48 * PanSola pokes Simon_rjh with a dull rusty fork
20:11:48 <Dantman|Sleepy> Disorienting type sleepyness...... Almost like being drunk... Not that I'd know... rofl
20:11:57 <Charitwo> uh huh!
20:12:25 <PanSola> guess he's afk
20:12:57 <PanSola> anyways, for those of you who weren't here last week (which seems to be most of you), you can check out last week's summary and transcript at: http://www.wikia.com/index.php?title=Forum:Gaming_lounge&t=20071016000101
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20:13:52 <PanSola> I was hoping we can get many ppl from last week back so we can kinda pick up where we left off..
20:13:53 <TwoTailedFox> So, what's up for discussion first?
20:14:04 <PanSola> so now I'm not sure how to start thigns off d-:
20:14:18 <PanSola> ok a general one: any issues that are bugging your respective wikis?
20:14:31 <Otter-Man> you mean BESIDES vandals?
20:14:34 <PanSola> lol
20:14:36 <PanSola> yeah
20:14:43 <Otter-Man> maybe
20:14:44 <PanSola> well, are vandals especially bad on your wiki?
20:14:46 <Phil_E> that scrollbox is odd
20:14:48 <Otter-Man> YES
20:14:53 <TwoTailedFox> Until recently, we had a lot of redundancy issues
20:14:56 <Otter-Man> We have one who just keeps coming back
20:15:07 <Otter-Man> since last year he's been vandalizing
20:15:11 <PanSola> hmm
20:15:12 <Dantman|Sleepy> Lack of people good with advanced templates!?
20:15:20 <Otter-Man> He say's his IP changes, but I'm not sure that's ture
20:15:21 <TwoTailedFox> We were using many templates (I think around... 25-odd?) Which we could have condensed into 1
20:15:23 <Otter-Man> true*
20:15:27 <PanSola> oh, yeah, I can help with advanced template issues
20:15:35 <Phil_E> you have to scroll the page all the way down to scroll it to the right to read the rest, scroll back up to read, scroll down again to put it back to normal, go back up and read some more, and repeat
20:15:41 <Dantman|Sleepy> ^_^ oi... that's my job...
20:15:44 <TwoTailedFox> Dantman|Sleepy: If I knew how to program them, I'd do it.
20:15:52 <Dantman|Sleepy> This isn't programming
20:15:54 <PanSola> Phil_E: what scroll box?
20:15:56 <Dantman|Sleepy> It's markup
20:15:59 <Phil_E> on that forum
20:16:05 <Phil_E> http://www.wikia.com/index.php?title=Forum:October_14th_IRC_meeting_transcript&t=20071015195057
20:16:05 <PanSola> Dantman|Sleepy: advanced templates IS programming
20:16:13 <TwoTailedFox> markup is still programming to my eyes
20:16:17 <PanSola> Phil_E: oooo
20:16:23 <Phil_E> at least, it shows up as one for me
20:16:23 <PanSola> um, I'll try to fix it after today's chat
20:16:29 <Dantman|Sleepy> Nope... even a light scriping language at leasts gives me a goto if it doesn't have a while
20:16:30 <PanSola> sorry about that
20:16:31 <Charitwo> the fact that the ads /have/ to be on the side of the screen is an issue of mine, what is the difference if it's at the bottom of the screen not interrupting the width of content. Be fair to people with lower resolutions
20:16:34 <Phil_E> np ;)
20:16:39 <Dantman|Sleepy> T_T I want loopfunctions...
20:16:40 <Biohazardfan14> lol
20:16:45 <PanSola> Dantman|Sleepy: once you get to an IF you are programming
20:17:16 * Speckledorph joined #wikia-gaming
20:17:16 <Dantman|Sleepy> We had if's before we had ParserFunctions
20:17:21 <Otter-Man> SPECKLE!
20:17:23 <PanSola> having loops give you something that's Turing-Complete essentialy
20:17:25 <Speckledorph> OTTER!
20:17:35 <Otter-Man> I thought you weren't joining?
20:17:37 <PanSola> and that adds great complexity
20:17:41 <PanSola> hi Speckledorph
20:17:46 <Speckledorph> Hi. =]
20:17:52 <Dantman|Sleepy> Well it'll at least make working with templates a bit better
20:18:21 <PanSola> anyways, on topic, so besides Otter-Man having one persistent vandal, nobody else has any issues on thier wikis?
20:18:27 <Dantman|Sleepy> I use regex to generate some of the code in things like Template:See also which use the same thing over and over with different numbers
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20:19:02 <Simonrjh|H3> oops
20:19:06 <PanSola> Dantman|Sleepy: having infinite loops on wiki pages is probably quite a bad idea
20:19:09 <PanSola> hi SImon
20:19:09 <Phil_E> oh right...
20:19:12 <Simonrjh|H3> hi
20:19:16 <Phil_E> es and fr.Halopedia too...
20:19:23 <Dantman|Sleepy> PanSola: Not infinite loops... mostly a repeat
20:19:27 * Phil_E forgot about those
20:19:36 <PanSola> Dantman|Sleepy: but allowing loops means infi loop can happen
20:19:41 <PanSola> ANYWAYS
20:19:43 <PanSola> ok
20:19:48 <PanSola> moving on
20:19:49 <Dantman|Sleepy> Nope... you can place restrictions
20:20:02 <PanSola> how many people have checked out the Quartz skin gaming theme?
20:20:08 <Dantman|Sleepy> I did...
20:20:11 <Simonrjh|H3> i dont like it
20:20:16 <Dantman|Sleepy> It's nice... but I have a bit of an issue with it...
20:20:18 * Phil_E has
20:20:20 * Simonrjh|H3 is now known as Simonrjh
20:20:23 <Phil_E> it's not bad
20:20:26 <Dantman|Sleepy> It's dark...
20:20:29 <PanSola> Simon_rjh: what are your issues with it
20:20:39 <PanSola> Dantman|Sleepy: without the darkness it'd be smoke
20:20:46 <Dantman|Sleepy> No... I mean the content area
20:21:12 <Dantman|Sleepy> Things get screwed up like that unless you let people introduce skin specific code for dark skins
20:21:19 * PanSola nods
20:21:33 <Dantman|Sleepy> Dark skins only work when the wiki is the one doing the dark customization
20:21:35 <Simonrjh> i cant remember now, but i didnt like it
20:21:37 <PanSola> like a #shade class
20:21:49 <PanSola> that uses different background color on light backgrounds vs dark backgrounds
20:22:02 <Dantman|Sleepy> Actually... I was thinking of a dark-mod for my Box class...
20:22:33 <PanSola> Simon_rjh: can you take a look again to help provide feedback on it?
20:22:40 <Simonrjh> k
20:22:49 <Dantman|Sleepy> Basically any of Wikia ACG's wiki using a custom skin with a dark content area would include that in the skin to have the color classes fliped to work with dark content.
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20:23:02 <Relentless|Away> Whoa.
20:23:06 <Phil_E> hi Relentless|Away
20:23:10 * Relentless|Away waves.
20:23:31 <Relentless|Away> I sense I'm late.
20:23:32 <Dantman|Sleepy> But even if I do that... the Gaming skin will still be ruined because we can't introduce the include into the Gaming skin's CSS
20:23:33 <PanSola> hehe
20:23:36 <Phil_E> not too much
20:23:38 <Phil_E> :)
20:23:50 <Relentless|Away> http://rainbowsix.wikia.com looks pretty good.
20:23:58 <PanSola> Relentless|Away: we are collectiong feedback for the gaming theme right now
20:24:00 <Relentless|Away> We adopted the Gaming Quartz with Halopedia's main page layout.
20:24:11 <Relentless|Away> Well then a bravo zulu to the dudes that made the theme! =
20:24:12 <Relentless|Away> =]
20:24:14 <PanSola> nice
20:24:21 <Dantman|Sleepy> What I'd like is a 'dark' class inside the body tag
20:24:27 <Kirkburn> Regarding light and dark skins - WoWWiki has been converted to allow both over the past few months
20:24:40 <Dantman|Sleepy> ...Whenever on a skin which is noted as dark
20:24:43 * Relentless|Away likes dark better.
20:24:50 <Simonrjh> i dont like halopedia's default skin
20:24:50 <Kirkburn> nearly all our tables are "class="darktable" ... and we design them differently in the CSS
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20:24:58 * Relentless|Away nods at Simonrjh sleepily.
20:25:01 * PanSola has an idea - separating the content theme from teh interface theme
20:25:07 <Relentless|Away> I'd like to have Halopedia have just normal Gaming.
20:25:09 <Simonrjh> i prefer white background, black text
20:25:10 <Phil_E> Simonrjh: the one with the battle at the top?
20:25:17 <Phil_E> oh
20:25:22 <Simonrjh> erm...yeah
20:25:24 <Relentless|Away> I'd prefer dark bg with white text.
20:25:30 <Phil_E> i like the one we have now, the custom one
20:25:34 <Relentless|Away> stylistic.
20:25:45 <PanSola> ChurchReborn: current topic: feedback on gaming theme
20:25:46 * Phil_E uses the ooold style though
20:25:52 <Simonrjh> me 2
20:26:03 <Phil_E> with the text in the background, monobook
20:26:42 <Simonrjh> mine has halo 3 multiplayer pics behind
20:26:49 <Phil_E> oh
20:26:50 <Relentless|Away> What's your GT, Simon?
20:26:55 <Phil_E> the one GPT made?
20:26:58 <Simonrjh> simon rjh
20:27:08 <Simonrjh> xD surprise
20:27:11 <PanSola> any other feedback on the gaming theme?
20:28:04 <PanSola> ok, next topic:
20:28:19 <Relentless|Away> Eh?
20:28:20 <PanSola> how can we keep bringing people back to the Gaming hub on central Wikia?
20:28:25 <Relentless|Away> There's no need?
20:28:29 <PanSola> last week a few ideas where tossed around
20:28:33 <Relentless|Away> We should list it on NavLinks.
20:28:48 <Relentless|Away> Except it doesn't work on Halopedia.
20:29:01 <PanSola> doens't work as in no one uses it, or something is broken?
20:29:01 <Kirkburn> What doesn't?
20:29:14 <Dantman|Sleepy> Well... on Wikia ACG we have every wiki in the project with a section in the sidebar
20:29:24 <Relentless|Away> MediaWiki:NavLinks does not work on Halopedia on our current skin.
20:29:28 <Relentless|Away> Physically.
20:29:34 <PanSola> hmm
20:29:37 <Phil_E> well we should switch back to monobook then :P
20:29:38 <Simonrjh> this seems like the right channel to ask this: Anyone interested in Crackdown? cos it has a wikia with very few members :s
20:29:39 <PanSola> did you guys report it already?
20:29:47 <Otter-Man> ack, i'm lagging STILL
20:29:48 <Relentless|Away> I whined to Sannse awhile back.
20:29:50 <Otter-Man> brb
20:29:52 * Otter-Man left #wikia-gaming
20:29:52 <PanSola> ok
20:29:54 <Relentless|Away> Like several weeks ago.
20:29:57 <PanSola> ouch
20:29:58 <Kirkburn> Relentless|Away, have you tried adding something to it?
20:30:02 <Kirkburn> It wasn't enabled!
20:30:07 <PanSola> well several weeks ago it wasn't supposed to work yet I think
20:30:09 <Relentless|Away> Kirkburn: I added something, didn't I?
20:30:16 <Kirkburn> No, there's nothing there
20:30:31 <Kirkburn> In fact, it's never been edited according to the page itself
20:30:42 <Relentless|Away> http://halo.wikia.com/wiki/MediaWiki:NavLinks <-- ?
20:30:46 <Kirkburn> Yep
20:30:51 <Kirkburn> no, Navlinks
20:31:02 <Relentless|Away> Oh LOL.
20:31:05 <PanSola> heh
20:31:14 * Relentless|Away chuckles.
20:31:20 <Relentless|Away> Damn Quartz helppage.
20:31:21 <Kirkburn> Add a second section, under *2
20:31:39 <Relentless|Away> oops.
20:31:46 <Kirkburn> http://bioshock.wikia.com/wiki/MediaWiki:Navlinks <-- example
20:31:55 <PanSola> well the idea of the Gaming hub is to be able to help more wikis getting attentioned
20:32:02 <Relentless|Away> PanSola: Add it to all Navlinks
20:32:12 <PanSola> things like MW:Sidebar and MW:Navlinks and the footer are all kinda limited
20:32:17 <Phil_E> maybe a Wikia Message?
20:32:20 <PanSola> and depends on each wiki's admin to implement/update
20:32:36 <Dantman|Sleepy> ^_^ Why do you think Wikia ACG uses a lot of bots...
20:32:37 <PanSola> the hub would be something centralized and can get mroe wikis covered
20:32:50 <PanSola> Dantman|Sleepy: I don't think
20:33:01 <Relentless|Away> PanSola: You can't impliment it to all Navlinks by default?
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20:33:09 <Relentless|Away> i think it's an easily marketable way.
20:33:19 <PanSola> Relentless|Away: well teh hub itself can be linked from the navlink
20:33:26 <Relentless|Away> Good.
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20:33:33 <Dantman|Sleepy> Erm...
20:33:35 <PanSola> but the question here is: how we can keep bringing people *back* to the hub
20:33:58 <PanSola> right now with most hubs, after a visiter has seen it once, the visitor probably wouldn't be interested in going back
20:34:10 <Dantman|Sleepy> The hub is already in the breadcrumbs... Why would people click on it in the Navlinks on the same level...
20:34:15 <PanSola> the question is how do we make the hub *interesting* so people actually want to go back to it
20:34:25 <Relentless|Away> Oh!
20:34:28 <Phil_E> wikia spotlight?
20:34:40 <Kirkburn> Spotlight sounds sensible to me
20:34:40 * Relentless|Away gets PanSola.
20:34:59 <Relentless|Away> How do we get the hub interesting?
20:35:03 <PanSola> yeah
20:35:05 <Relentless|Away> Link me to the hub again?
20:35:12 <PanSola> www.wikia.com/wiki/Gaming
20:35:17 <Relentless|Away> http://halo.wikia.com/wiki/MediaWiki:Navlinks <--and how did I mess up again?
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20:35:23 <Relentless|Away> nvm
20:35:24 <Relentless|Away> it works
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20:35:54 <PanSola> so some of the recent changes I've done: I added some stats about which wikis are doing well in terms of growth
20:36:07 <Relentless|Away> A good idea, PanSola.
20:36:14 <Relentless|Away> How did you get those stats anyways?
20:36:16 <PanSola> the "what's hot" section kinda allows any wiki to get to the top of the hub if soemthing interesting is going on overthere
20:36:31 <PanSola> (if your game has a halloween celebration, added it to the hub!)
20:36:45 <PanSola> some of hte ideas tossed around last week include:
20:36:58 <PanSola> * Featured gaming wikia (new one every month or bi-weekly)
20:37:03 <Relentless|Away> PanSola, I think we might want to reenovate some of the 'top' games.
20:37:10 <Relentless|Away> And feature them, make it exciting.
20:37:26 <PanSola> * Interviews with wikia users, ask them what interests them, what brought them to wikia etc
20:37:29 <Relentless|Away> For example, the popular X360 games in the U.S., which is the predominate...
20:37:32 <PanSola> for that we need interviewrs and interviewees
20:37:38 <Relentless|Away> ...gaming base in the world, IMHO.
20:37:43 <Relentless|Away> I'm not sure interviews would be attractive.
20:37:53 <Charitwo> speaking of featured wikia, FFXIclopedia got the most votes but nobody followed up for the front page blip :/
20:37:54 <Relentless|Away> However, news of top games and recent leaks, etc... for those games might be.
20:38:00 <Relentless|Away> It's like why people always go to ign.com.
20:38:09 <PanSola> Charitwo: the front page is not editable right now
20:38:11 <Phil_E> hmm
20:38:17 <PanSola> hasn't been since July
20:38:23 <Phil_E> and maybe more in-depth info on the appropriate wikia?
20:38:31 <Relentless|Away> I think if you want to popularize the hub...
20:38:34 <Relentless|Away> Have a link to the wikia.
20:38:37 <Relentless|Away> But just have the game.
20:38:41 <Relentless|Away> Kids care about the game, not the wikia.
20:38:49 <Relentless|Away> However, it will always bring people back to the hub.
20:38:56 <Relentless|Away> My two-cent rant.
20:38:59 <PanSola> hmm
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20:39:07 <PanSola> hi skill
20:39:14 <Skill> got the time wrong ^^
20:39:17 <Relentless|Away> I'd be glad to try help update the hub if it goes through, PanSola.
20:39:19 <PanSola> hehe it's alright
20:39:24 <PanSola> Relentless|Away: thanks
20:39:38 <PanSola> hmm
20:39:47 <PanSola> so can the news be used to promote the respective wiki?
20:39:58 <Phil_E> i think so
20:40:12 <Relentless|Away> PanSola: At the very end.
20:40:17 <Phil_E> like a little snippet on the hub, and full, in-depth coverage on the appropriate wiki
20:40:19 <Relentless|Away> I think that there are two aims you need to clarify between:
20:40:25 <Relentless|Away> 1. popularizing the hub
20:40:32 <Relentless|Away> 2. popularizing the subordinate wikia wiki
20:40:42 <Relentless|Away> If you want the hub to be attractive, I'd image the following:
20:40:51 <Relentless|Away> The hub page would have a main section with 3-5 pictures.
20:41:07 <Relentless|Away> Each will have a 3-5 word caption underneath with the name of the game.
20:41:17 <Relentless|Away> Something like "Halo 3 Expansion Planned" as the caption
20:41:18 <Phil_E> you'd image it? d:
20:41:40 <Relentless|Away> And people could click on the caption to a few paragraphs talking about this news and then at the end 1-2 sentences about the wikia.
20:42:01 <PanSola> um, so the few paragraphs are gonna be an article on central?
20:42:11 <Relentless|Away> PanSola: That works.
20:42:13 <PanSola> cool
20:42:21 <PanSola> we have the Gaming lounge forum
20:42:26 <PanSola> we can utilize it
20:42:37 <PanSola> get people to talk about the game on there too if they wanna
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20:42:42 <Relentless|Away> That works as well, PanSola.
20:42:46 <Simonrjh> hi
20:42:46 <Jack_Phoenix> rar
20:42:47 <Phil_E> rar Jack_Phoenix
20:42:48 <Relentless|Away> Anyways, how does my proposal sound?
20:42:50 * Jack_Phoenix rars
20:42:57 <PanSola> sounds good
20:43:05 <Relentless|Away> Excellent.
20:43:08 <PanSola> how much space do you tihnk it's gonna endu p taking?
20:43:26 <PanSola> the main objective of the hub *is* to popularize the subordinate wikis
20:43:36 <Relentless|Away> lol
20:43:40 <Relentless|Away> Catch 23.
20:43:41 <PanSola> we can't sacrifice 2 too much
20:43:49 <Relentless|Away> Between What's Hot to The Hits.
20:43:55 <Relentless|Away> I think if users are interested to read the paragraph...
20:43:57 <PanSola> we want to bring people back to the hub *SO* the other wikis get exposure
20:43:59 <Relentless|Away> It'll draw them to the wiki.
20:44:06 <Relentless|Away> That's my belief.
20:44:11 <PanSola> k
20:44:19 <Relentless|Away> What's Hot and Weekly Stats might not appeal to hardcore gamers.
20:44:29 <Relentless|Away> Those that just want news on their games and want to know what they want to buy next.
20:44:47 <PanSola> hmm
20:45:01 <Relentless|Away> With all due respect, sir.
20:45:08 <Relentless|Away> I'm just imaging it from the context of gamers.
20:45:17 <Relentless|Away> Only Wikia editors might say "ooh, HL2 Wikia is doing well!"
20:45:19 * PanSola isn't sure if teh Gaming hub is primarily aimed at existing gamers who are users of an existing gaming wikia already, or random gamers from outside wikia
20:45:40 <Relentless|Away> I'd think if Angies's Gaming project would be to expand, it'd draw non-Wikia editors.
20:45:49 <PanSola> I'll ask the Powers That Be (tm) the next time I got the chance
20:45:58 <Relentless|Away> We've had dozens of H3 gamers come onto Halopedia in the last few days that weren't new editors.
20:46:01 <Relentless|Away> *were
20:46:04 <Relentless|Away> PanSola: Excellent.
20:46:09 <Relentless|Away> Any other questions? :P
20:46:16 <PanSola> polls?
20:46:22 <PanSola> that's another idea tossed around last week
20:46:28 <PanSola> to have polls on the hub
20:46:31 <Relentless|Away> Not sure how that'd appeal to a gamer.
20:46:37 <Relentless|Away> A possibility though.
20:46:41 <Relentless|Away> Polls for their top game?
20:46:50 <Relentless|Away> And when they vote they can say some words supporting why?
20:47:06 <PanSola> hm
20:47:09 <Relentless|Away> And when they go to that second page they can have links to the Wikia like in spotlight fashion.
20:47:22 <PanSola> btw, people other than Relentless|Away: feel free to voice your thoughts too...
20:47:27 <Phil_E> :P
20:47:43 <Jack_Phoenix> haha :P
20:47:45 <Jack_Phoenix> so, erm
20:47:46 <Simonrjh> ;|
20:47:49 <Jack_Phoenix> what's the topic? :)
20:47:49 <Simonrjh> :|
20:47:50 * Relentless|Away chuckles.
20:47:58 <PanSola> the built-in poll extension only allows people to vote but not comment right?
20:48:03 <Jack_Phoenix> yep
20:48:04 <Relentless|Away> That is correct.
20:48:04 <Phil_E> yeah
20:48:06 <Relentless|Away> The <poll> tag.
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20:48:18 <Relentless|Away> PanSola, my idea is to modernize the hub into something more open.
20:48:21 * Charitwo hugs GPT.
20:48:23 <Relentless|Away> Something accessible to all hardcore gamers.
20:48:29 <Relentless|Away> And not exclusively editors.
20:48:33 * GPT hugs Charitwo
20:48:35 <PanSola> Jack_Phoenix: generally, on how we can make the [www.wikia.com/wiki/Gaming] hub appealing to people so they keep goig back
20:48:37 <Relentless|Away> No matter what you do you will retain the editors.
20:48:46 <PanSola> specifically, on the idea of using polls to draw interest
20:48:48 <Relentless|Away> What you do, however, will determine how you allure hardcore fans.
20:48:53 <Jack_Phoenix> hmm
20:49:07 <Relentless|Away> If gamers are hardcore enough, they'll snoop the games contained in the polls or the news release paragraphs.
20:49:14 <Relentless|Away> Sir.
20:49:21 <PanSola> hi GPT
20:49:32 <GPT> hi... what's the current topic of discussion?
20:49:32 <Relentless|Away> Hiya GPT.
20:49:35 <Jack_Phoenix> PanSola: the gaming logo looks a bit bad on IE7...I'll take a screenshot soon
20:50:03 <PanSola> thanks
20:50:13 <PanSola> GPT: generally, on how we can make the [www.wikia.com/wiki/Gaming] hub appealing to people so they keep goig back
20:50:17 <PanSola> specifically, on the idea of using polls to draw interest
20:50:40 <PanSola> Dantman|Sleepy: you think you can hackup something that allows people to vote *and* comment?
20:50:43 <Relentless|Away> PanSola, comments on my forum idea? :P
20:50:48 <Relentless|Away> I'm just thinking this...
20:50:51 <Phil_E> how about polls on favorite games?
20:50:54 <Dantman|Sleepy> Erm.... no...
20:50:55 <Relentless|Away> We have the poll application, and underneath something that says...
20:50:57 <PanSola> what's yoru forum idea?
20:50:59 <Relentless|Away> "Comment on it"
20:51:03 <PanSola> oh
20:51:08 <Dantman|Sleepy> Or well in that case...
20:51:10 <PanSola> hmm
20:51:15 <Relentless|Away> Or once the poll page refreshes, it takes 'em to the forum page.
20:51:17 <PanSola> maybe we shold invade Gaming.wikia.com
20:51:21 <PanSola> they kinda have the mechanism to do it
20:51:22 <Jack_Phoenix> PanSola: http://staff.jackphoenix.com/staff/images/0/01/Gaming.png
20:51:26 <Jack_Phoenix> yay invasion \o/
20:51:27 <Dantman|Sleepy> All it would take would be a transcluded page with an edit button...
20:51:54 * Relentless|Away nods at the general direction of Dantman's tech-pervasiveness. :P
20:51:56 <PanSola> oops Jack_Phoenix: I forgot to check it on monobook
20:52:02 <PanSola> it was designed with quarze
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20:52:15 <Relentless|Away> PanSola: Does it sound feasible?
20:52:17 * Phil_E is now known as Phil_E|Lunch
20:52:22 <Phil_E|Lunch> brb
20:52:22 <Jack_Phoenix> meh - if you can come up with a fix, that would be nice, but not neccessary :)
20:52:41 <Dantman|Sleepy> I haven't touched the Poll extension in awhile...
20:52:43 <PanSola> Relentless|Away: well it might be beyond my ability
20:52:48 <PanSola> we want the poll on the hub itself
20:52:49 <Dantman|Sleepy> Where do you want me to try it?
20:53:07 <PanSola> so... inside w:Forum:Gaming lounge we have an article with poll and area for comment
20:53:12 <PanSola> then tranclude it on the hub?
20:53:12 <Relentless|Away> PanSola: So maybe...
20:53:15 <Relentless|Away> Aha!
20:53:18 <PanSola> yeah we'll give it a shot
20:53:30 <Relentless|Away> We can have to the left and center of the top of the hub...
20:53:36 <Relentless|Away> The three pictures, one for each release.
20:53:39 <Relentless|Away> And the caption underneath.
20:53:43 <Relentless|Away> To the right we can have a small poll.
20:53:58 <Relentless|Away> Therefore, we'l lstill have space underneath for the other stuffelz.
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20:54:18 <GPT> rar Forerunner
20:54:25 <Forerunner> erm...hi
20:54:38 <GPT> hi! =D
20:54:40 <Relentless|Away> PanSola: I'm thinking of two releases.
20:54:47 <Relentless|Away> But that might be kind of limiting, y'know?
20:54:59 <Relentless|Away> I think 3 would nicely showcase it, but the image size will have to be limited to include a rightside poll.
20:55:15 <Relentless|Away> 'it' as in the current gaming environment.
20:55:23 <Relentless|Away> No clue how the tech stuffelz will work out though.
20:55:32 <Relentless|Away> On Halopedia I just toss the tech stuff to GPT & Co. :P
20:55:49 <GPT> (Co. means the voices in my head)
20:56:13 <Simonrjh> GPT: lol
20:57:25 <PanSola> anhyways, do we have a volulnteer to come up with poll questions that will interest gamers?
20:57:54 <Relentless|Away> PanSola: My idea was...
20:58:02 <Relentless|Away> "Which is your favorite upcoming game?"
20:58:06 <Relentless|Away> Or something equally controversial.
20:58:13 <Relentless|Away> If it's controversial, they'll be sure to comment.
20:58:17 <Relentless|Away> And thus be attractive.
20:58:24 <Relentless|Away> Mundane Qs won't get the desired effect.
20:58:25 <PanSola> hmm
20:58:28 <Relentless|Away> Like perhaps a rivalry question?
20:58:32 <PanSola> well taht's one single poll question
20:58:33 <Relentless|Away> Xbox 360, PS3, or Wii?
20:58:37 <PanSola> cool
20:58:40 <PanSola> two
20:58:43 <Simonrjh> that wd make comments
20:58:43 <Relentless|Away> Or Halo 3, Guitar Hero II, or BioSchock?
20:58:45 <Relentless|Away> U'know>
20:58:46 <GPT> favorite game Qs aren't controversial, you know...
20:58:51 <Forerunner> well i have usergroups
20:58:53 <Forerunner> LOADS
20:58:54 <Relentless|Away> GPT: See Bungie.net and Ign.com. =]
20:58:54 <PanSola> do you think we can have a new poll every week? or bi-weekly?
20:59:02 <Relentless|Away> PanSola: Biweekly works.
20:59:10 <Jack_Phoenix> bi-weekly has my vote
20:59:11 <Forerunner> anyone want 2 join them/
20:59:13 <GPT> Relentless|Away, I prefer to base my opinion off of better sources than B.net and IGN.
20:59:17 <PanSola> you think there are enough quesitons to ask every two weeks?
20:59:25 <GPT> yes
20:59:35 <PanSola> k
20:59:37 <Relentless|Away> PanSola: Probably.
20:59:40 <Relentless|Away> There are a lot of new games.
20:59:44 <Relentless|Away> GPT: Based on my friends then. :P
20:59:48 * Skill has quit
21:00:04 * GPT is RR's only friend, so /me's opinion wins. \o/
21:00:09 <PanSola> on the topic of polls
21:00:25 <PanSola> who here is excited about: Fury, Hellgate, Assassin's Creed, Crysis, Mass Effect?
21:00:26 * Relentless|Away fervently disagrees with GPT.
21:00:33 <Relentless|Away> PanSola: Uhh...
21:00:35 <Relentless|Away> None of the above.
21:00:38 <PanSola> heh
21:00:47 <Relentless|Away> Most X360 games aren't that popular when they're new.
21:00:54 <Relentless|Away> With a poll, I'd suggest:
21:00:56 <Relentless|Away> 1. Halo 3
21:00:58 <Relentless|Away> 2. Bioshock
21:01:01 <Relentless|Away> 3. Guitar Hero II
21:01:05 <Relentless|Away> 4. Gears of War
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21:01:15 <Jack_Phoenix> Relentless|Away: you forgot all Wii games :P
21:01:21 <PanSola> well the question I just asked is for existing wikis that need editors/admins for seeding adn welcomign pepole
21:01:25 <Relentless|Away> They're all pretty big games that appeal to a wide variety of X360 gamers.
21:01:31 <GPT> Mass Effect has enough popularity for someone to have started a topic on Halopedia's "Other Games" forum. none of us are too excited about it, but there are a few fans, AFAIK.
21:01:32 <PanSola> so when new gamers find those wikis, they don't look too empty
21:02:33 <Relentless|Away> I don't like to administrate gaming wikias with games I don't have.
21:02:41 <PanSola> haha
21:02:56 <Relentless|Away> Or games I don't like. lol. :P
21:03:04 <PanSola> fair enough q-:
21:03:16 <Relentless|Away> PanSola, anyways, I'll need to get going soon.
21:03:28 <Relentless|Away> Is there a time/place/modicum that we could chat later about this idea?
21:03:32 <Relentless|Away> I'm very interested in it.
21:03:34 <PanSola> yeah
21:03:41 <PanSola> well there's the Gaming lounce forum on central
21:03:48 <PanSola> and i hang out here quite often
21:03:54 <Relentless|Away> Great.
21:04:05 <PanSola> not quite up to the 25 horus a day or even 12 hours a day standard
21:04:09 <Relentless|Away> Is there a proposal to get my proposition into draft form tonight? :P
21:04:14 <Phil_E> lol
21:04:16 <Kirkburn> And I *always* hang out here, I'm just often busy with WoWWiki-ness :)
21:04:18 <PanSola> well the hub is a wiki page
21:04:20 <PanSola> be '''bold'''
21:04:39 <Relentless|Away> LOL.
21:05:02 <PanSola> or if you aren't sure, do something like Gaming/RR Draft1
21:05:06 <Kirkburn> PanSola, reminds me of the time I have to stop myself typing ~~~~ on normal forums :P
21:05:15 * Phil_E coughs
21:05:15 <Relentless|Away> :P
21:05:23 <PanSola> I sign my emails with -~~~~
21:05:25 <Kirkburn> Ooh, I have an idea
21:05:35 <GPT> PanSola, I do too
21:05:36 <Relentless|Away> Eh, same.
21:05:40 <PanSola> Kirkburn: yes we welcome ideas
21:05:41 <Phil_E> Relentless|Away: w:Forum:Wikia is plural of Wikia
21:05:50 * Relentless|Away glares at Phil. :P
21:06:00 * GPT hugs at Phil. D:
21:06:01 * Phil_E #REDIRECTs glare to forum
21:06:02 <Kirkburn> For the links, I know friendly bot to auto link for us :)
21:06:07 <Phil_E> :D
21:06:49 <PanSola> Kirkburn: you mean linking from individual wikis to the hub or something else?
21:06:54 * Relentless|Away is now known as Relentless|g2g
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21:07:15 <Kirkburn> PanSola, nah, a bot for here that can autolink this style link
21:07:26 <PanSola> you lost me
21:07:37 <PanSola> a bot for IRC that can autolink something?
21:07:52 <Kirkburn> aye
21:08:16 <PanSola> I'll clarify it with you later...
21:08:23 * PanSola is still muddled
21:08:26 <Phil_E> there's a script like that somewhere on wikipedia...
21:08:26 <Kirkburn> It'll arrive shortly :P
21:08:54 * [NewsBot] joined #wikia-gaming
21:09:04 <Kirkburn> And hello there [NewsBot]
21:09:05 <PanSola> hi NewsBot, so what exactly do you do?
21:09:13 * GPT hugs [NewsBot]
21:09:23 <Kirkburn> About Wikia
21:09:23 <[NewsBot]> Kirkburn meant: http://www.wikia.com/wiki/About_Wikia
21:09:35 <PanSola> huh?
21:09:39 <GPT> kewl!
21:09:51 <PanSola> ah
21:09:53 <Phil_E> O_O
21:09:56 <Phil_E> Wikia
21:09:57 <[NewsBot]> Phil_E meant: http://www.wikia.com/wiki/Wikia
21:09:58 <[NewsBot]> i post news from feeds aswell if you want some spam
21:09:59 <PanSola> w:c:GuildWars
21:10:01 <[NewsBot]> PanSola meant: http://www.wikia.com/wiki/w:c:GuildWars
21:10:02 <GPT> User:Guesty-Persony-Thingy is better than Wikia
21:10:02 <[NewsBot]> GPT meant: http://www.wikia.com/wiki/User:Guesty-Persony-Thingy
21:10:04 <Phil_E> nice!
21:10:11 <GPT> !bAH, doens't multi-link
21:10:12 <PanSola> ok, stop playing with it
21:10:15 <Phil_E> lol
21:10:18 <GPT> NO!!!
21:10:19 <[NewsBot]> GPT meant: http://www.wikia.com/wiki/NO!!!
21:10:24 <Jack_Phoenix> lol
21:10:24 <PanSola> Featured Gaming wikis
21:10:30 <[NewsBot]> GPT nah there are some quirks with the regex :/
21:10:32 <PanSola> next topic
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21:10:44 <PanSola> hi Otter
21:10:46 <PanSola> welcome back
21:10:55 <Otter-Man> yay
21:11:09 <PanSola> one of hte ideas last week was to have a Featured Gaming wikia on the hub
21:11:11 <Otter-Man> hang on...gonna change nick
21:11:17 * Otter-Man is now known as Otter|Cacodemon
21:11:27 <PanSola> two issues:
21:11:31 * GPT eats Cacodemons for breakfast
21:11:32 <PanSola> 1. we need to decide how often it rotates
21:11:41 <PanSola> 2. we need nominations
21:11:58 <GPT> 1. I suggest fortnightly rotations.
21:12:07 <Phil_E> yeah
21:12:31 <Kirkburn> I agree
21:12:55 <Kirkburn> What do we base nominations on?
21:13:14 <GPT> content/community, for starters
21:13:14 <PanSola> kirk: what do you mean?
21:13:18 <PanSola> oh
21:13:41 <PanSola> see Featured gaming wikia
21:14:03 <Kirkburn> only works when it started a line :P
21:14:26 <PanSola> well I expect wikians like you can type the url directly
21:14:29 <PanSola> d-:
21:14:37 <PanSola> do we have a volulnteer to come up with poll questions that will interest gamers?
21:14:38 <Kirkburn> hehe
21:14:41 <PanSola> oops wrong copy
21:14:46 <PanSola> http://www.wikia.com/wiki/Featured_gaming_wikia
21:14:49 <GPT> lol
21:15:07 <Kirkburn> Ah, cool, I see
21:15:26 <PanSola> I copied most of it from the main Featured Wikia article
21:16:26 <PanSola> so, anyone have any gaming wikis they want to nominate for the first feature?
21:16:34 <Phil_E> Wii Wiki?
21:16:47 <Jack_Phoenix> \o
21:16:49 <Kirkburn> Dinner calls, be back in a bit
21:16:51 <PanSola> cool, write a blurb for it (-:
21:16:58 * Kirkburn sets mode -e Kirkburn
21:16:58 * You are now known as Kirkburn|afk
21:16:59 * services. sets mode +e Kirkburn|afk
21:17:02 <PanSola> Kirkburn: can't you hangup on dinner?
21:17:07 <Kirkburn|afk> Sorry, no :(
21:17:23 <Kirkburn|afk> Shouldn't be tooo long
21:17:40 <PanSola> anyone else want to nominate another wiki?
21:17:44 <PanSola> for some competition? d-:
21:17:47 <Phil_E> me write the blurb?
21:17:48 <GPT> I'll nominate Pfhorpedia in a few days
21:17:51 <PanSola> ok
21:17:58 <PanSola> Phil_E: or you can get someone else write the blurb
21:18:06 <Phil_E> kk
21:18:10 <PanSola> the blurb isn't just introducing your wiki, but also why you think it should be featured
21:18:21 <Dantman|Sleepy> AliceSoftWiki!!!
21:18:36 <PanSola> Dantman|Sleepy: you wannt write a blurb for that one?
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21:19:14 <Dantman|Sleepy> ^_^ Nah... Afker might... I just thought it would be ammusing to have a wiki about eroge as one of the first features... rofl
21:19:26 <PanSola> heh
21:20:00 <PanSola> Dantman|Sleepy: anything else from the ACG (with enough gaming emphasis) that you think are featureable?
21:20:12 <PanSola> and go poke the admins of those wikis to write a blurb?
21:20:43 <Dantman|Sleepy> ^_^ Admins of Wikia ACG wiki... 90% of those wiki are administrated by me... lol
21:20:48 <Dantman|Sleepy> Ummm
21:20:55 <PanSola> heh
21:20:56 <Dantman|Sleepy> The only ones I can think of...
21:21:01 <PanSola> well self-pokes are always fun
21:21:17 <Dantman|Sleepy> Other than the various naruto, and other wiki which just have games on the side...
21:21:35 <PanSola> did Megaman join?
21:21:39 <Dantman|Sleepy> AliceSoftWiki is the only one dedicated to that... Gundam might have a fair bit...
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21:21:50 <PanSola> welcome back Simonrjh
21:21:55 <Simonrjh|H3> howdy
21:21:56 <Dantman|Sleepy> Nope... Mega Man and Yu-Gi-Oh! Are still pending confirmation...
21:22:00 <ChurchReborn> wb.
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21:22:19 <PanSola> Simonrjh do you have any gaming wikis in mind that might be good for nominaton for Featured gaming wiki?
21:22:22 <Dantman|Sleepy> Allong with a few other Animanga wiki which the founders who were there dissapeared...
21:22:38 <PanSola> well yo don't need the fonder, or even the admin, to do it
21:22:39 <Simon_rjh> i'm only a member of halo an crackdown
21:22:41 <PanSola> to nominate
21:22:44 <PanSola> anyone can nominate
21:22:46 <Dantman|Sleepy> I know...
21:22:58 <Dantman|Sleepy> I just mean we have a number on hold that never wen't through...
21:23:12 <PanSola> oh
21:23:34 <Forerunner> We need assistance on Dino Crisis Wiki
21:23:43 <Forerunner> looks like no one else is editing it
21:23:53 <PanSola> assassinstance as in need more contributors or in other aspectes?
21:23:54 <Forerunner> and a Wikia that the community doesnt edit
21:23:58 <Forerunner> isn't a good story
21:23:59 <Simon_rjh> (and Crackdown)
21:24:03 <PanSola> hmm
21:24:04 <Forerunner> yes
21:24:12 <Forerunner> 2 or 300 pages
21:24:17 <Forerunner> already in existence
21:24:32 <GPT> Forerunner, people won't edit wikis if they don't have content... work on Dino Crisis as much as you can, and advertise wherever you can without spamming. best way to get activity for *any* kind of site.
21:25:08 <PanSola> ok, let's keep the featured gamign wikia in mind, everyone think about it and see if you can nudge ppl to nominate. Next topic: improvement drives
21:25:24 <PanSola> how about having regular improvement drives on the hub so we all go help a particular wiki
21:25:31 <PanSola> say this week we all go to Dino Crisis and help
21:25:36 <PanSola> if I don't play the game I jsut help with grammer
21:25:41 <Forerunner> yep
21:25:45 <PanSola> or point out where the article makes no sense
21:25:49 <Forerunner> it's just...
21:26:13 <Forerunner> if few people edit a site... the admins eventualy loose faith
21:26:15 <PanSola> of ocurse we need to build up traffic on the hub first for this idea to be effectibe
21:26:17 <Forerunner> i keep editing
21:26:25 <Forerunner> and even added a few links on Wikipedia
21:26:29 * PanSola is losing spelling ability
21:26:41 <Phil_E> lol
21:27:00 <PanSola> Forerunner: are you actively involved in internet forums related to Dino Crisis?
21:29:00 <PanSola> am I sitll connected to IRC?
21:29:05 <PanSola> 2 minutes of silence...
21:29:11 <GPT> ja
21:29:12 <Charitwo> :O
21:29:14 <PanSola> heh
21:29:37 <PanSola> what do people think of a weekly Gaming-wikia-wide improvement drive?
21:29:55 <GPT> \o
21:29:57 <PanSola> it mgiht be to help out a particular wiki,
21:30:12 <PanSola> or on some admin/founder guide that cna benefit all new wikis
21:30:22 <Simon_rjh> i'm off to play some haloz
21:30:24 <Simon_rjh> bye
21:30:26 <GPT> bai
21:30:27 * PanSola looks for a dull rusty fork to poke Forerunner with
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21:30:31 <PanSola> see ya simon
21:30:38 <GPT> PanSola, I think that would be a wondarful idear.
21:31:22 <PanSola> do you think you can raise interest with halopedians at large to have a certain percentage of them to participate?
21:31:52 <PanSola> or do you think it'd be just admins of various wikis who would be involved but that'd be enough?
21:32:34 <GPT> welll... quite a few Halopedians have other games as well, and I know at least a couple participate in other wikis...
21:32:56 <Forerunner> i like the idea of a weekly gaming wikia improvement drive
21:33:09 <PanSola> Forerunner: are you actively involved in internet forums related to Dino Crisis?
21:33:13 <GPT> if we can get some of them looking at the Hub more, too, though, at least some of them would probably help out the ID
21:33:15 <Forerunner> i have one who says he's a halopedian
21:34:05 <PanSola> cool
21:34:54 <PanSola> hm
21:35:07 <PanSola> so any other thoughts on how to draw interest to the hub?
21:35:28 <Forerunner> nope
21:35:29 <PanSola> most of these inter-wiki collaborations depend on the hub being successful
21:35:38 <PanSola> that people repeatedly going back to
21:36:04 <PanSola> what kind of info, that changes relatively frequently (at least bi-weekly), would be interesting to draw people back
21:37:07 <Forerunner> Pictures
21:37:10 <Forerunner> not just logos
21:37:16 <PanSola> pictures of...?
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21:37:26 <Forerunner> hmm...
21:37:37 <Forerunner> pics from Wikias in gaming
21:38:14 <Jack_Phoenix> *Wikia
21:38:16 <Forerunner> like a Halopedia Hunter killing a brute image
21:38:18 <PanSola> haha
21:38:20 <PanSola> hmm
21:38:26 <Jack_Phoenix> http://www.wikia.com/wiki/Forum:Wikia_is_plural_of_Wikia ;-)
21:38:30 <Forerunner> and a Runescape pic of a random event
21:38:39 <PanSola> Dantman|Sleepy: does random images thing work on Wikia?
21:38:46 <Forerunner> i used to say Wikia'
21:38:48 <Dantman|Sleepy> Dunno...
21:38:49 <Dantman|Sleepy> Though
21:38:53 <Phil_E> Forum:Wikia is plural of Wikia
21:38:53 <[NewsBot]> Phil_E meant: http://www.wikia.com/wiki/Forum:Wikia_is_plural_of_Wikia
21:38:55 <Dantman|Sleepy> Lemme check something in DPL
21:38:58 <Phil_E> yay :D
21:39:44 * Charitwo is now known as Charitwo________
21:40:09 * Charitwo________ is now known as Charitwo
21:40:12 * Jack_Phoenix is now known as Wikia-Internal
21:40:41 <PanSola> um
21:40:47 <PanSola> stop changing nicks around please
21:40:51 * Kirkburn|afk sets mode -e Kirkburn|afk
21:40:51 * You are now known as Kirkburn
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21:40:52 <Phil_E> lol
21:40:52 <PanSola> it gets confuising
21:40:56 <Phil_E> lool
21:41:05 <Forerunner> DAMN
21:41:09 <Phil_E> Kirkburn changed his nick right after :P
21:41:12 <PanSola> yes Forerunner?
21:41:12 <Forerunner> theres a bug on dino crisis
21:41:16 * Charitwo is now known as Darth_Calculator
21:41:17 <Kirkburn> Er, hello again
21:41:18 <PanSola> squash it
21:41:39 <Forerunner> each time i save changes it says i haven't typed anything
21:41:45 <PanSola> o_O
21:41:49 <Kirkburn> weird
21:41:52 <PanSola> better let staff know about it
21:41:58 <Forerunner> and going back to... This page has no text to you wish to edit
21:42:05 <Forerunner> when i go back it's there
21:42:17 <PanSola> are you using the WYSWYG editor
21:42:21 <Forerunner> even stranger the recent changes special is like a minute off
21:42:22 <PanSola> or the old school simple editor?
21:42:35 <Forerunner> erm... Windows Explorer on a laptop
21:42:47 <Forerunner> but a fast laptop
21:42:49 * Darth_Calculator is now known as Charitwo
21:42:58 <Forerunner> Windows Explorer 9.0
21:43:01 <Phil_E> WYSIWYG editor?
21:43:04 <Forerunner> ?
21:43:07 <Forerunner> what's that
21:43:15 <GPT> it's not the editor
21:43:21 <GPT> the database is just being screwy.
21:43:23 <Phil_E> how do you get that?
21:43:27 <PanSola> ok
21:43:33 <PanSola> GPT you are getting that too?
21:43:37 <GPT> yes
21:43:39 <Forerunner> yay i got one working
21:43:43 <GPT> as is Tstarnes.
21:43:53 <PanSola> you guys are letting the staff know about it right?
21:44:04 <GPT> staff ain't online right now.
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21:44:27 <Charitwo> staff are on strike on weekends ;) except maybe sannse on occasion
21:44:29 <Wikia-Internal> actually...
21:44:33 <Wikia-Internal> techs are idling
21:44:35 <Wikia-Internal> most likely
21:44:40 <Wikia-Internal> /whois Inez
21:44:46 <Wikia-Internal> /whois Nefretete
21:44:49 <Wikia-Internal> :)
21:44:50 <PanSola> hi LO
21:45:10 <PanSola> Dantman|Sleepy: you still looking into the DPL for random image?
21:45:14 <Dantman|Sleepy> PanSola: Randomization is not built into DPL...
21:45:26 <Dantman|Sleepy> But dpl does interact with other extensions...
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21:45:30 <PanSola> can randomization outside of DPL be feed itno it?
21:45:32 <PanSola> yeah
21:45:36 <PanSola> ok
21:45:41 <Dantman|Sleepy> I managed to hack up a combination of DPL and the Chosse extension
21:45:56 <Dantman|Sleepy> http://www.wikia.com/index.php?title=Wikia:Sandbox&action=purge
21:46:06 <PanSola> any other thoughts on drawing returning interest of visitors to the hub?
21:47:20 <PanSola> any other issues any of the wikis face? (aside from database being screwy right now)
21:48:05 <Phil_E> Mario wiki was facing some serious vandalism a while ago...
21:48:17 <Phil_E> from supermariowiki.com members IIRC
21:48:22 <PanSola> multi-source or one persistent kid?
21:48:32 <Phil_E> only a few so far...
21:48:42 <Phil_E> but i'm concerned it could escalate later on
21:48:53 <PanSola> hmm
21:49:10 <PanSola> what would be the trigger for escalation?
21:49:24 <Charitwo> is it just me, or is stuff having a delay showing up in the logs
21:49:29 <Phil_E> idk
21:49:38 <Phil_E> maybe once we get more content or popularity
21:49:56 <PanSola> how many regular editors do you have right now?
21:50:04 <PanSola> Dantman|Sleepy: that works great
21:50:07 <PanSola> teh random image
21:50:20 <Dantman|Sleepy> oooh...
21:50:32 <PanSola> Charitwo: as in recentchanges, or specifically the ban/upload/delete logs?
21:50:32 <Phil_E> two or three
21:50:36 <Dantman|Sleepy> ^_^ since you're done... I think I'm going to throw something fun in... rofl
21:50:42 <Charitwo> all logs
21:51:00 <PanSola> i'm not sure, I haven't done any wiki editing in the last 3 hours or so
21:51:13 <Forerunner> it's ok on Resi wiki
21:51:22 <PanSola> coudl be related to the database problem though
21:51:43 <PanSola> looks like Memory alpha is alos having issues with RC
21:51:56 <PanSola> anyways
21:52:07 <PanSola> I'll get the chat transcript adn summary onto the central forum a bit later
21:52:28 <PanSola> and we can use the forum to furthur collaborate on stuff like improvement drive and random image etc
21:52:48 <PanSola> eeryone keep in mind to nominde or nudge others to nominate wikis for featured gaming wiki
21:52:53 <PanSola> and feel free to just hang out in this channel
21:53:03 <PanSola> I'm advertising it to new gaming wiki founders so some of them randomly hop on for help
21:53:08 * GPT smacks PanSola
21:53:10 <PanSola> but I'm not always at my keyboard to help them
21:53:12 <PanSola> thanks for coming
21:53:13 <PanSola> (-:
21:53:20 * PanSola skcams GPT
21:54:02 <PanSola> time for next week's group chat will be announced on the hub
21:54:11 <Forerunner> ok
21:54:51 <PanSola> Phil_E: have you been just reverting and bannig hte vandals, or have you (or your editors) been leaving messages for the vandals?
21:55:09 <Phil_E> i've been doing the former
21:55:12 <Forerunner> NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
21:55:17 <PanSola> ?
21:55:19 <Forerunner> The eroor's in Resi wiki
21:55:23 <Forerunner> *error
21:55:25 <Phil_E> the reverting and banning
21:55:30 <Forerunner> ?
21:55:40 <PanSola> k
21:55:58 <PanSola> if your editors start leaving vandal message, that *might* be something that can escalate the problem
21:56:07 <PanSola> because vandals might feel they are getting mroe attention
21:56:17 <Charitwo> yea if they are obviously vandals you're giving them exactly what they want
21:56:19 <PanSola> Forerunner: the Recent Changes problem?
21:56:32 <PanSola> so just quitely reverting and banning is the best solution IMHO
21:57:33 <Forerunner> G2G now
21:57:36 <Forerunner> BYE
21:57:38 <PanSola> see you
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21:57:41 <PanSola> thanks for coming (-:
21:57:46 <Dantman|Sleepy> OMG... O_O http://www.wikia.com/wiki/Image:Golden-forest-site-style.png
21:58:07 <GPT> lol
21:58:08 <PanSola> wikicities! Old Chool!
21:58:13 <PanSola> (-:
21:58:56 <Phil_E> :o
21:59:09 <RougeAdmin> yay Wikicities \o/
21:59:14 * LO|Hereish is now known as LO|Away
21:59:24 * RougeAdmin remembers when Wikicities.com domains started redirecting to Wikia.com...
21:59:59 <PanSola> it doesn't anymore?
22:00:11 <Phil_E> aw
22:00:19 * PanSola just checked, it still does
22:00:22 <RougeAdmin> yeah
22:00:28 <RougeAdmin> but back when it *started* ;)
22:00:31 <PanSola> oh
22:00:36 <RougeAdmin> :)
22:00:43 <PanSola> well I remember back when wikicities.com doesn't even redirect to wikia.com yet
22:00:45 * Dantman|Sleepy was not with Wikia at that time...
22:00:53 <GPT> neither was /me
22:00:57 * Phil_E eithet
22:00:59 * PanSola feels old
22:01:05 <Phil_E> *either
22:01:06 * PanSola was a Wikicitizen
22:01:06 <Phil_E> lol
22:01:07 <Dantman|Sleepy> Bah... you don't matter GPT...
22:01:12 <GPT> {='(
22:01:15 <Phil_E> rofl
22:01:25 * GPT left #wikia-gaming ("{='(")
22:01:29 <PanSola> )-:
22:01:39 <Dantman|Sleepy> lol
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22:01:43 <ChurchReborn> he'll be back....
22:01:45 <ChurchReborn> nvm
22:01:46 <PanSola> GPT: you don't matter. You energy
22:01:48 <GPT> no one even /invite's me back in? WAH!!! {='(
22:01:54 * GPT hugs PanSola
22:02:10 * PanSola used to major in physics
22:02:10 <Dantman|Sleepy> ^_^ And that was without the "You be quited GPT..." rofl...
22:02:51 <GPT> rowl
22:04:24 <PanSola> ok, for something random:
22:04:31 <PanSola> what's the dumbest discussion on your wiki lately
22:04:48 <PanSola> mine on GuildWIki was a revert war over whether something is an Elk or a Deer
22:05:02 <Phil_E> lol
22:05:04 * PanSola screams "Elks are Deers!"
22:05:41 <Charitwo> Deer is plural :P
22:05:46 <PanSola> oops
22:05:56 <PanSola> Deer is the plural of deer
22:05:57 <[NewsBot]> PanSola meant: http://www.wikia.com/wiki/Deer_is_the_plural_of_deer
22:06:14 <RougeAdmin> haha
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22:08:45 <Phil_E> lol
22:09:13 <ChurchReborn> lol
22:10:35 <GPT> lol
22:11:27 <Phil_E> lol
22:11:40 <PanSola> Phil_E: why are you lol-ing twice?
22:11:42 <PanSola> d-:
22:11:49 <GPT> lol
22:12:15 <Phil_E> cause everyone else loled :P
22:12:19 <PanSola> heh
22:12:22 <RougeAdmin> lol
22:12:26 <Phil_E> lol

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