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I notice on wikipedia, if you have a gallery without a file or image in the name, the image will not show up, for example:


The last Hastings_Ismay.jpg picture will show up only as text not as a picture on Wikipedia: Gallery on wikipedia.png

But the same list of pictures on wikia:


... all three photos will show up, including the picture without Image or File:

Gallery on wikia.png

Incredible! How and where was Wikia able to get rid of this file/image requirement? Is it an extension?

Thank you. Worthlesspaul 05:41, December 10, 2010 (UTC)

Yes, Wikia improved the Gallery extension and uses a different one from Wikipedia. See Special:Version for details (Photo Gallery, Version 4.0 as of this post). See also Help:Gallery. -- Fandyllic (talk · contr) 9:53 PM PST 9 Dec 2010
that is awesome, sounds like i need to look at the extension. the help pages tend to be very basic. Thank you Fandyllic, I hope you did not get any edit conflicts writing this as I was tweaking my question. Worthlesspaul 05:55, December 10, 2010 (UTC)
That means that Wikipedia galleries work on Wikia, but Wikia galleries doesn't work outside of Wikia. The same happen to the "widths" parameter of galleries: The standard one requires the "px" unit in the value, while wikia galleries doesn't require it, and the automated tools for adding images to galleries removes both the "px" and the File: namespace. A sort of Embrace, extend and extinguish strategy to prevent or make it more difficcult to take the content of the wiki to another wiki hosting. --Ciencia Al Poder (talk) -WikiDex 16:43, December 10, 2010 (UTC)
You're being a little harsh in this case, Ciencia. It would have been nice if they used a different tag name, though. -- Fandyllic (talk · contr) 9:49 AM PST 10 Dec 2010
I disagree, it's not too harsh. Data portability is a fundamental part of free information (c.f. Google contacts vs Facebook), and while there are efforts to make the "wiki language" standard across different types of wiki software, Wikia is fragmenting the MediaWiki software itself. If Wikia wants to continue to push themselves as being a free and open source option, then they need to get their act together. --Pcj (TC) 18:08, December 10, 2010 (UTC)
Wikia is not, any longer, an Open Company. And that's more true every day. Wikia deleted the Open Company Test because it was clearly not. Archived version when it was open. --Ciencia Al Poder (talk) -WikiDex 18:29, December 10, 2010 (UTC)
Wow, Wikia sure has come a long way since then! I see the license switch from GFDL to Creative Commons as part of the issue, as GFDL required content publishers to provide a source that the content could be republished from. --◄mendel► 07:57, December 12, 2010 (UTC)
IMHO, there is nothing to worry about, until they announce their changes to be propitiatory and close source, as that would violate the © of the original source IIRC :)
Until then they are just digging them self a deep burial ground like most companies did who wanted to be "special" and not portable.
You can find plenty of examples of this in the computer business history, both hardware- and software- wise.
Most notably is M$'s efforts to create a special HTML/CSS/DOM variant from the W3C, which they are slowly but steadily back-stepping from...
⇐⇑©TriMoon™TalkHandyWikiLinks @ 18:35, December 10, 2010 (UTC)
...And meanwhile we, the users, get hit by it on a daily basis, just like in the good old days of the browser wars.
Just like back then (or in other time or place this happened or happens) a huge amount of time and resources go to waste making things work.
Of course that one of the solutions will be for users to stay with wikia since they will use less resources than to move out.
No, the lock down isn't done when the "property of wikia" is affixed to the software, it's when the change is deployed.
 Nidek   (Talk) [[Special:Contributions/Nidek| Special:Editcount/Nidek edits made ]] 18:50, December 10, 2010 (UTC)
Well thats where the responsibility of admins kick in, to keep their wiki-source compatible with MediaWiki :)
⇐⇑©TriMoon™TalkHandyWikiLinks @ 18:55, December 10, 2010 (UTC)
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