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Yeah mobile update!

Awesome!

Great!

Thanks for the fix!

Glad to see stuff coming out again!

It is also not case-sensitive for me. If I search on the Marvel Wiki "thwip! the bi" it will properly auto-fill to "THWIP! The Big Marvel Show".

There have been a number of wikis whose Message Walls didn't migrate over properly. You just have to report them in a Zendesk ticket for the staff to fix them. I've reported two already.

Oh, yes! Thank you for the LinkSuggest fixes!!

That's fair, and considering how new a lot of the people heading up Fandom are these days (they turned over a lot of the staff after rebranding from Wikia), I'm not surprised they run it like a smaller startup.

I'll totally admit that the rollout of UCP has been far from perfect, and that there are bugs which really should be fixed. I was just trying to suggest that maybe we shouldn't villify Fandom as this "horrible corporation" who "doesn't care at all about their users" and is just making awful changes for no reason.

I see them trying to take feedback from their users and be open in their communication through blog posts for major updates, regular staff AMA's, recurring "Community Checkpoints" where they do voice calls with their users to hear feedback and answer questions, maintaining public Discord chats that staff members participate in, creating their Wiki Managers teams to address specific communities with help customized directly for them, and asking for feedback from small focus groups with their "Community Council" program before they announce any major updates or releases. I suppose I don't see that kind of stuff from other big companies like Apple or whatnot which is why I appreciate it.

@Fandyllic Nope, mostly smaller tech companies. Nothing like Microsoft or Apple.

@Andrewds1021 That's fair. I suppose the timeline could have been pushed back further until more unintended bugs were predicted and squashed. I guess just having worked in software development I feel more sympathetic to understanding that things go wrong which you didn't expect upon code deployment, and Fandom has been doing a lot better than I've seen many companies do in responding to feedback and being open in communication about what they're trying to fix and when.

Maybe I had too low of a standard before in the way I've seen other companies deploy updates, but I would have been infinitely surprised if somehow the rollout of UCP was perfect and problem-free on all wikis.

@Fandyllic That's true of products that aren't released on the massive scale that Fandom is doing combined with the mass amounts of customization each individual wiki community has. This isn't like an update to Facebook, or a video game, where every user has essentially the same copy of the product. Many, many, of the wiki communities had their own custom JavaScript, CSS, templates, and other things that caused breakage when the update to UCP happened.

You have to be fair to the context of this situation and to the fact that it's not like most other software releases.

@Numbuh 404 It is a waiting game right now until all the new bugs popping up on the new platform are ironed out, yes. Unfortunately, it's the space that pretty much all of us are in. I, too, wish everything could function perfectly right from the get-go when these updates are released, but the best we can do is recognize that this is a truly massive migration happening and Fandom are doing their best to addresses the problems one-by-one as with the limited staff members they have.

Oh, definitely, things won't immediately break this very second on the un-updated software. But imagine if this Community Central wiki stayed this way while the entire Internet around it kept modernizing. When things do inevitably start to break, no one would be there to fix them. In a year, when people start asking for any new small features, no one would be able to add them. Less and less new people would find the wiki as all the pages' SEO goes down and they show up less and less on Google results.

It's definitely hard right now when the changes are brand new and all the fresh bugs are being uncovered and squashed. No doubt that lots of these changes are currently broken and are still in a process of being smoothed out. But Fandom isn't trying to roll this out as a "mandate" for new editing formats, they're trying to improve the editing experience based on data and user feedback. So if we've got things that we'd like to see different about these updates, then we should tell them specifically what they are! Unfortunately, giving them a general statement of "i dont like it" isn't anything specific that can be taken as feedback to improve, even if it's easy for us to default to.

I'm also glad that you feel everything is working fine for the majority of people here, because this wiki has moved over all of its Forums and blogs to the new Discussions platform that is a part of UCP :)

Hey @Numbuh 404 ! Sorry to hear you guys are having growing pains during the transition to UCP. Know that you're not alone -- many of our own wikis are having difficulties as we adjust as well.

The Fandom staff have written a great blog post explaining why it's imperative to transition all our wikis to UCP. As explained in the blog post, our old wikis are stuck on an old, buggy, version of software (called "MediaWiki") that is no longer supported any more. It's barely held together, and definitely can't have anything new added to it or fixed without a ton of work and putting us more behind!

That's why it's important to upgrade everything to current, up-to-date software (which is UCP). All modern websites and products have to do it. If any individual wiki was left on old, buggy, software, everything on that wiki would eventually break down and no one would be there to fix it.

It would be awesome if this process could be easy and bug-free right off the bat. Unfortunately, in a case where we're literally migrating thousands of wikis with hundreds of thousands of pages each with their own custom content, it's pretty impossible for there to not be issues along the way. There are growing pains any time change happens in life. Fandom staff are trying their best to make this process as painless as possible and listen to user feedback, so the best thing we can do to support them during this time is give them specific, actionable, feedback and report any specific bugs that we find :)

Hello, Louie!