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Hi all!
We are working on new portable infobox features - now comes time for the tabber and galleries inside infobox! Yay!
If you want to have an impact on how this feature is going to look like, please read the thread and feel free to share your opinion!
SethFu, Dessamator thanks for bringing up this interesting issue, we'll take care about this!
Cheers!
Hi guys! :)
Thanks for your insights! We'll look into all of them.
About the stacked vs. tabular change - we are currently running the maintenance bot which appends to your stacked infoboxes the
<infobox layout="stacked">
param so you'll see no change in your stacked infoboxes appearance :) Thus, don't be surprised if User:Wikia will visit your wiki!
Thanks!
@Robcamstone good point about the infobox width, we'll consider it as a part of next iteration of portable infoboxes feature :)
Well, and it's not that the PortableInfoboxes have broken the templates and your wikis! It's probably the matter of bad use of the migration tool especially if combined with lack of acknowlegent to admins and moderators.
We'll try to roll back all damaged templates and we're really sorry about the shame we get.
Remember your average user wants to added/edit information without the need to use CSS.
-- we remember about this and we are currently working on a new, visual tool which will allow to create a infobox template without coding, so stay tuned! :)
Qoushik, DEmersonJMFM , Dessamator
thank you for sharing your insights. We'll surely discuss it next week and fix it as soon as possible :) What yould we do without you? ;)
Cheers!
So far most of the templates on Elder scrolls seem to be ok. One of our templates color was changed, and we have some reports of the skyrim NPC's templates not working on mobile.
I myself feel that editing with these templates seems more difficult, or at least will be. All of this is still rather early so I wont say its a problem yet, but I wanted to make sure that I shared the our wikis current status.
Yes, thanks for the feedback. Did you get any info which tamplates are not working?
Well, generally, our point was to make it more EASY to edit... :P What will be the possible problem? We are still working on making them more user-friendly, so we are open for your feedback. However, at a first glance, they are much cleaner and readable in comparison to the markup we've encountered in this templates before ;)
What exactly in your opinion is more difficult? Please, explain, we'll discuss your opinion and try to help :)
Do you want us to introduce a new infoboxes also on other templates on Elderscrolls wiki? Or maybe you want actually play with them? If you will, you'll probably see how easy it really is :)
Why not just serve the pages with the desktop style by default UNLESS the wiki in question has made a mobile.(css/js) in wich case just load those after the default ones for the wiki.
That way every wiki can customize their mobile view on a-per-need-basis. I'm a desktop/mobile user also, and i mostly browse using the desktop view on my mobile... I really don't get why the web is trying to reinvent the web on a per device-type case, we got an standardized HTML5 these days which all webpage rendering engines are working on to support...
In short make the mobile exceptions work "on-top" of the desktop styles, instead of REPLACING them... (Who wants to browse the web using Lynx these days anymore?)
Thanks for question. Well, it is not so easy and it is not really the case to only change the .css file or and an .js one.
First of all, the wiki articles are not just only the text with some images inside. Very often they are really complex and messy with their templates in templates in sliders in tables in tabbers... and so on. ;) AND they are developed by users in order to show them on desktop which is understandable. However, when comes to render items like this on the mobile, they are really tricky and usually VERY NOT NICE :) They often have hardcoded css values, styling and structure which simply cannot be properly rendered without the dedicated mobile skin.
Moreover, do you really want to load all the heavy, desktop page AND then append to it custom mobile styling? :)
Thus, we are step by step introducing a mobile friendly syntax elements. It helps us parse wikitext properly and serve it to other skins, which are better prepared for the mobile usage (reduced page load time, big buttons, handful menu, responsivity).
Is this the answer for your concerns? If not, feel free to ask more :)
Hi Ohmystars!
You did a really GREAT job with styling all this infoboxes, playing with them and providing so much useful feedback. Wikia staff appreciate that!
Some notes from me:
2. Yes, good point. We will consider this and others ideas while next steps of infobox improving. The same with point 4.
3. Even better point! :) We are working on this, please give us some time ;)
5. Well, we wanted to be consistent with the approach of the old infoboxes. Yes, the reason was that infoboxes are usually long, and if someone wants to read the article content, he has to scroll, and scroll and scroll… as you said. Your idea to take the opposite approach sounds interesting and also is definitely worth considering.
Thanks again for your thoughts. Please note that the infoboxes are still in the development phase, what means both that we are open for your feedback and thoughts as well as we are still going work on them to make it extremely useful, nice, handy and better than them have ever been :)
Hi! TableWiz, thank you for questions :)
1. Image will not be streched. There is no mimimum image size. Smaller images will be centered :)
2. Thank you for the notice, but the markup is correct. Maybe while pasting the quotation mark (" sign) changed? It happens sometimes. Please remove the copied " and rewrite them.
3. Hmm. I've used both "Name", "name" and "NAME" multiple times while testing infoboxes, and it was working :) Please note however, that if you define in your template one of them, be consistent. The binding is case-sensitive.
Hope I've helped a little bit. Cheers!