MediaWiki talk:Interwiki map


 * See also Help talk:Interwiki link

Add Inheritance Trilogy Wiki and Wookiepedia
Could the Inheritance Trilogy Wiki and Wookiepedia: the Star Wars Wiki, be added to the list?

Like;

ITW........ http://inheritance.wikia.com/wiki/$1 and;

Star Wars.. http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/$1

Thanks -- Kumarhk 08:46, 27 March 2006 (UTC)

Add Encyclopediadramatica
Could Encyclopediadramatica be added to the map please. ED (maybe as Encyclopediadramatica is prone to misspelling and quite long) http://www.encyclopediadramatica.com/index.php/$1 They use MediaWiki if it's anyuse.

Cheers --Elvis from Uncyclopedia 15:21, 28 Jul 2005 (UTC)


 * ED has been added. Angela (talk) 05:39, 29 Jul 2005 (UTC)
 * Ta --Elvis from Uncyclopedia

ABCs and the Interwiki tag
Any program available to reorganize the list into alphabetical order? Would there be a problem if one day, someone, such as myself, decided to go through and alphabetize it? Or better, to add a column to the "Description pages" for each wiki, like Mozilla Community, and show off the "Interwiki tag"? --Me at work 06:15, 27 Jan 2005 (PST)


 * Please don't add a column. There's a script which applies this to the database, but it needs to be in this format for that to work. I don't think alphabetising it would cause any problems. Angela 15:05, 27 Jan 2005 (PST)
 * Err, I didn't mean it like that. It was early.  I meant to add a line, such as 'Founder:' and 'URL:' are, to each individual wiki's description page. --Me at work 16:50, 27 Jan 2005 (PST)
 * Oh I see. Sorry, I misread your comment. That sounds a good idea, but I'll wait until bug 60 is fixed and the links are actually working since it'll only cause confusion if we're claiming these are interwiki links when they have no effect. Angela 18:20, 27 Jan 2005 (PST)

Cache interwiki
Do we need a Google cache interwiki link? At Wikipedia, the GNAA was using that to redirect users to LastMeasure... – Jellochuu! 09:14, 30 Jan 2005 (PST)
 * No, I've removed it now. Angela 11:10, 30 Jan 2005 (PST)

So links don't break
links to Mozilla:Main Page didn't work to begin with, so if you remove mozilla from the interwiki map and replace it with mozcom (i dont want mozilla as that should be wiki.mozilla.org with the thing called logic) then you break no links, as they weren't formed... right? --Me at work 06:00, 3 Feb 2005 (PST)

Errors
I think you might have made an error with the last two interwikis (CPP and Blogsome). – Jello 21:49, 9 Feb 2005 (GMT)


 * Thanks. Blogsome was wrong because I copied the one from cpp. Cpp isn't wrong though - it's a special case since cpp is not a wiki, but a portal. The correct interwikis are en.cpp: and pl.cpp:. cpp: is just there in case people link to it accidentally, but it will always go to the main page of the portal. Angela 22:24, 9 Feb 2005 (GMT)


 * Hrm. I know Wikipedia has things like Hi which redirects you properly, but i guess thats because fr: is some special thing on wikipedia itself.  I suppose, and this is just supposin', but you could set it up to show up a page


 * This page does not exist on the cpp portal. (like on wikipedia)  Maybe you'd like to try to find this page on the English, whatever, or whatever cpp wikis?


 * I don't know if it's terribly feasable but it sounds like an interesting idea to me. --Me at work 01:45, 10 Feb 2005 (GMT)


 * People should not be linking to cpp, so I don't think adding in a search for whether the title exists in English or Polish would ne needed. If they accidentally go there, they can use the search boxes on that portal and find the correct language version. Angela 13:25, 10 Feb 2005 (GMT)


 * interwiki howto: isn't working. — Danielwang 07:16, 26 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * interwiki constitution: isn't working — Danielwang 19:41, 28 Jun 2005 (UTC)


 * New ones aren't being added now. Those can be linked to using w:c:en.howto and w:c:en.constitution (switching "en" for whichever language you want). Angela (talk)

IB Wiki
--Chlewey 03:16, 18 Feb 2005 (GMT)


 * Done. Angela 14:23, 18 Feb 2005 (GMT)

add MozillaWiki and MozillaZineKB
which are currently in meta's list, so ctrl + f them. thanks (i'm on a laptop and it sucks for typing) --Tom talk/Bliki 20:04, 25 Mar 2005 (EST)


 * I've now updated the page from meta (after fixing 5 broken links there). I've not included the wikis which are currently inaccessible. I've also not copied over some duplicates of an esperanto wiki since they seemed to be including too many variations for no reason. I've not included Wikinations because they ought to bug Erik to give them proper interlanguage redirects rather than needing all of their languages included. I didn't include siliconvalleyinfozone since isn't a wiki. Angela 11:54, 1 Apr 2005 (EST)

Closed Wikicities
Should German Podcasts and Podcasters (also known as Deutsche Podcasts und Podcaster) still have an Interwiki link since the Wikia has been closed.


 * No. I've removed it now. Angela 11:55, 1 Apr 2005 (EST)

map update EVERY night?
"Wikicities' current InterWiki map (aka InterMap) ..... is copied from the list below every night."
 * Does it take longer than a day? Everything from GoogleWiki: on down that was added on April 6 still does not work. JWSchmidt 10:35, 9 Apr 2005 (EDT)


 * It's not happening nightly. Maybe weekly? I'll try to get this changed. bug 60. Angela 19:48, 9 Apr 2005 (EDT)

Simple English Wikipedia
Is there a defined Interwiki link for http://simple.wikipedia.org/ ? JWSchmidt 19:41, 27 May 2005 (UTC)


 * Article title will take you there. This works for any language version of Wikipedia (Foo etc) since they have automatic redirects set up, in the same way that Wikicities:c:rls:Article will redirect you to the RLS Wikia if you use that link anywhere other than the central Wikia. Angela (talk) 01:52, 28 May 2005 (UTC)

Wikicities:

 * Nope, Wikicities:c:rls:Article or even Main Page come up red if tried in Uncyclopedia. One can link to Wikipedia articles using the Interwiki map but not to the central Wikia. --Carlb 14:32, 22 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Uncyclopedia has never used this interwiki map. I'll try to get this fixed. Angela (talk) 13:20, 10 Jul 2005 (UTC)

No more Wikia interwikis
Since we have the automatic redirects like " Wikicities:c:events " which link to the events Wikia from any Wikia (except central) and from other wikis, like Wikipedia, I don't think adding individual wikis here is useful. It's often confusing or complicated where a wiki name conflicts with an existing interwiki link (linux: and are not Wikicities), where a wiki changes name (smarteam: still has to link to cm: just in case anyone used it while it was called smarteam), and where a wiki moves (games: is no longer a link to gameinfo because gameinfo was moved from games: to gameinfo:).

Having so many interwikis also prevents many page titles. Events:Wikia meetup can never be a page on this wiki because it is a link to the Events Wikia. Luckily, the interwiki for the blogging Wikia was BloggingWiki:, not blog:, since that would prevent us having pages like blog:home.

Therefore, I suggest relying on the redirect instead of an interwiki. Unlike an interwiki, a redirect will always work (if we move a wiki, the URL will redirect, or the new wiki will link to the old one) and it is always obvious which word to use (since the redirect word is the same as the subdomain name, unlike the interwiki).

In case links have been used, we should continue to support the interwikis currently listed, but new ones need not be added. All new wikis should only be linked using  Wikicities:c:wikiname:article name  from everywhere but central. From central, you need to use the shortcut "w" instead. eg:w:c:events:foo links to the page "foo" on the w:c:events: wiki. Angela (talk) 13:20, 10 Jul 2005 (UTC)


 * zooloo: This information is rather essential - maybe it better suits a more prominent place? To my impression, at least the introduction at Interwiki_map deserves an update. The question why e. g. Clean:Main_page doesn't link to the main page of Clean City (despite that's the way interwiki linking is explained at various places) has been on my obstinate issues list already.

Small change for FET
For "FET", the address given is  http://www.egnu.org/thelemapedia/ . However, their current address is in fact  http://www.egnu.org/thelema/ . Thank you. Nomis 07:31, 11 Jul 2005 (UTC)


 * This is now changed. Angela (talk) 13:40, 11 Jul 2005 (UTC)


 * Thank you. :) Nomis

MoztwWiki
Requesting interwiki link for MoztwWiki. The URL is http://wiki.moztw.org/index.php/$1 &mdash;Danielwang 03:45, 20 Jul 2005 (UTC)


 * MoztwWiki:首頁 added. Angela (talk) 05:41, 29 Jul 2005 (UTC)

German Uncyclopedia
Interwiki for the German Uncyclopedia: http://uncyclopedia.de/wiki/index.php/$1, DeUncyclopedia, UncyclopediaDe, something else? --80.5.160.7 18:51, 2 Sep 2005 (UTC)


 * Have you asked the founders of the English Uncyclopedia if you can use this name? The German uncyclopedia is on separate hosting and seems to have no connection with the original one. I'd rather not encourage links to it if it's regarded as a fork of the one started at uncyclopedia.org. Angela (talk) 00:17, 20 Oct 2005 (UTC)

It's not merely a fork as it is in a different language from the main Uncyclopedia (and the Babel: namespace is largely a scratchpad wiki-sandbox soon outgrown by many of the other-language Uncyclopedias).

The English-language Main Page continues to link the following languages as "sista projects" so I'd presume them to be legitimate:

I presume that, to use the "in other languages" box in the format it appears in Wikipedia, with en: es: fr: and the like linking to the same article in other languages, that Uncyclopedia (and the Uncyclopedia-related projects as listed above) would need their own Interwiki map independent of the main one for Wikicities? (see 272)

I see no technical requirement that the interlanguage links point to wikis on the same host, but (based on trying this on a test server) it does appear that MediaWiki is looking specifically for the language prefixes in the interwiki map to display that "in other languages" tool box at the lower-left.

And yes, there's the need to ensure that désencyclopédie: doesn't get turned into an interwiki link again, at least within desencyclopedie itself, as it is currently used as a pseudonamespace for project pages there (as the real project: namespace was missing the accents for some reason). That much looks OK at the moment, but there's always the risk of inadvertent re-creation. --carlb 02:11, 6 March 2006 (UTC)


 * The inter-language link has now been broken, no point in trying de.uncyclopedia:, no, try c:de.uncyclopedia:, no didn't work from here, maybe w:c:de.uncyclopedia? «Schon gewusst, dass... eine Bande von Kunstdieben die meisten Bilder aus diesem Wiki geklaut hat?» Yup. This thing was less badly broken when it was a fully-external site, by the looks of things. --carlb 16:04, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

Seattle
Looks like Seattlewiki is in here twice. Chadlupkes 06:03, 18 Dec 2005 (UTC)


 * Fixed. Angela (talk)

Interwiki links for other bug tracking systems

 * Hallo! It might be a good idea to add some more Interwiki links for other bug tracking systems the :
 * 1) BugMZ : http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=$1
 * 2) BugFF : https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=$1
 * 3) BugIE : ???
 * 4) BugOpera : ???
 * 5) BugKonqueror (or shorter) :
 * 6) (others)
 * Thanks for your efforts in advance!


 * Wikimedia's one is there already as MediaZilla. I don't think mozilla bugs are often linked to from most wikis, other than perhaps the Mozilla wiki where they could use a template for that. Angela (talk) 11:36, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

Please reorder the list of interwiki links

 * Please see tests/interwiki links:
 * Interwiki prefixes are not case sensitive at all. Best regards Gangleri 08:42, 18 Dec 2005 (UTC)

Pete Ashdown's wiki
Can we add Pete Ashdown's Campaign Wiki?

http://vote.peteashdown.org/wiki/index.php/Main_Page

I would suggest 'peteashdown:'

Chadlupkes 21:22, 23 Dec 2005 (UTC)


 * Added. Angela (talk)

GuildWiki
www.guildwiki.org

Since I'm starting a Chinese wiki here, it'd be great to be able to interwiki link to their English articles for reference (-: -PanSola 22:17, 13 Jan 2006 (UTC)


 * Added, but I'm not sure when this will go live due to 238. Angela (talk) 11:36, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

Add Mythology Wikia
The Mythology Wikia hasn't been added yet. --Morningstar2651 21:20, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

Dead Wikis
http://www.liberalsagainstterrorism.com/wiki/index.php Appears to be dead. liberalsagainstterrorism.com redirects to a blog.

http://scoutpedia.info/ also seems to be dead.

What are the policies on removing dead links? I didn't go through many of them, but I'm willing to bet there are many dead wikis in the list.--141.213.221.169 (wikipedia SirNuke) 01:57, 20 February 2006 (UTC)

I've found, after much deep thought, that the answer is 42. That's how many of these links are outdated, contain errors or point to wikis which are misconfigured or gone. See 272 for the list of problem children. --carlb 17:11, 6 March 2006 (UTC)

Request to add "MW", fix "Bug"
Interwiki map contains an entry:

I tried to use it earlier today, but as a surprise, Wikia does not have the "MW" interwiki prefix. Considering that it is for MediaWiki, our wiki software, I suggest that we add it to our interwiki map.

Also, "Bug" is broken. For example, 238 and 272 both give "404 not found". As it is, the link http://wikia.com/bugzilla/enter_bug.cgi?product=Wikia from the "report a problem" page is also "404 not found", so I do not know the correct location. --Kernigh 03:09, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

Please add Christianity and RLDSWiki
It would be very useful for RLDSWiki to be able to interlink with the Christianity wiki. --BenMcLean 13:55, 10 May 2006 (UTC)

Please add
Many Wikia are not on the map - is there a reason for this? If not, these ones should be added:

Academic Publishing http://academia.wikia.com/$1

Ideas http://ideas.wikia.com/$1

PermaWiki  http://permaculture.wikia.com/$1

Renewable Energy Design Wikia http://renewableenergy.wikia.com/$1

Wikocracy http://wikocracy.wikia.com/$1

Wikitecture http://architecture.wikia.com/$1

Thanks --Singkong2005 23:36, 27 May 2006 (UTC)

Easier way
Wouldn't it be far easier and more efficient to simply use the list at Interwiki map? That would save work by admins and by those of us trying to update the list.

It would also keep the list more up-to-date. --Singkong2005 23:37, 27 May 2006 (UTC)


 * It's not meant to be up to date. We don't add new Wikia wikis there now since they can be linked using w:c:pets:page name from this wiki, or using wikia:c:pets:page name or wikiasite:pets:page name from Wikimedia projects. It would take too long if every page load had to check against a list of 1000 wikis on this page. Angela (talk) 11:58, 28 May 2006 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the explanation. It would be very, very helpful if this were explained at the top of the interwiki map page, otherwise many people like me will keep spending time trying to figure out why formatting that works for some links doesn't work for others, and working out which additions to request here, and then waiting for their approval.


 * I would start it myself, but I still don't understand how it relates to the meta.wikimedia.org map, and anyway, the page seems to be locked against editing by normal users; could someone who can edit it please look at fixing the intro? Thanks, Singkong2005 14:41, 28 May 2006 (UTC)


 * Perhaps it would be simpler just to install Special_page_to_work_with_the_interwiki_table so that admins of individual wikia could update the local interwiki table for their wiki themselves? Much of what's here now is two months or more out-of-date and badly broken. --66.102.74.163 19:26, 28 May 2006 (UTC)

Fix link in intro please
Thanks (to Angela or whoever did it) for adding the note to the intro. Could you please fix one error or typo: wikia:c:pets:page name doesn't work in wikimedia projects (well, not in Wikipedia)- it should be  wikia:pets:page name   - Thanks --Singkong2005 05:17, 29 May 2006 (UTC)

Help copyedit intro
The intro could do with some copyediting, so I've put it here (in blue), so that anyone can contribute changes. Please feel free to edit - and when it's much improved, we can ask the page's intro to to be updated. (Note, I've made the subheadings level 3, using === instead of == - so that this can be edited as one section, to make it less confusing. It can be adjusted later.) --Singkong2005 05:17, 29 May 2006 (UTC)

Wikia' current InterWiki map (aka InterMap) is stored in the interwiki table of the database.

To suggest changes to this list
Please add your request to the talk page.

Note: We don't add new Wikia wikis here now since they can be linked as described under Using interwiki links, below.

Don't put everything in, avoid prefixes which are likely to clash with languages, titles involving colons, or Wikia projects.

A script has been written to copy this list into the database, and this should be done on a semi-regular basis. Please do not change the format of this table.

This list should closely match that at Interwiki map. Current differences are that bug links to Wikia' bug tracker and bugzilla is not used.

Using interwiki links
Note: Wikias are linked using w:c:pets:page name from this wiki, or using wikia:pets:page name or wikiasite:pets:page name from Wikimedia projects.

Prefixes are not case sensitive.

Interwiki linking allows a prefixed internal link style, instead of external link style with the full URL, for example India &rarr; India.

See also: Interwiki links, MetaWikipedia:Help:Interwiki linking

Interwiki map
"It is copied from the list below every night." - is this still true? --Singkong2005 05:39, 29 May 2006 (UTC)

Needs updating
Wikisource has not been at sources.wikipedia.org for a long time; it's now at [en.]wikisource.org. And Wikispecies is now at species.wikimedia.org. There are probably others that need changing, but that's what jumped out at me. - dcljr 09:04, 31 May 2006 (UTC)

Suggestions for changes to linking to wikias
See my comment at http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help_talk:Interwiki_linking#Linking_to_a_page_on_www.wikia.com

I started out trying to lay out an explanation of linking to pages in Wikia, but after it ended up as a large and complex table, I ended up making suggestions for changes to the interwiki maps. The basic idea is:


 * Linking to Wikias, especially from within Wikia.com & its communities, is too complex with too many special cases. One or more of the methods should be deprecated, and the functionality of others enhanced, to avoid confusion. I suggest that the wikiasite method used from Wikimedia sites (wikiasite:permaculture:arrowroot, wikiasite:permaculture:Category:Agriculture & wikiasite:scratchpad:User:Singkong2005) should be used within the whole wikia site as well as in wikimedia projects.


 * A single method should also be found for linking to pages on the Wikia main site (e.g. http://www.wikia.com/wiki/Featured_Wikia), whether from Wikia community sites, or from Wikimedia. We could use wikia: for this purpose, but the changeover would be too painful. How about wikiacom:?

This would have the added advantage that the same interwiki map could be used for Wikimedia and for Wikia, saving work and easily keeping it up-to-date. --Singkong2005 05:53, 19 June 2006 (UTC)

No response... okay, I'll explain why the current system is confusing even after using it for months:

This table is obviously incomplete and may have errors. However, it does demonstrate the problem. The clearest and most consistent solution is to use "wikiasite:" for linking to wikias from anywhere in wikia.com, and something different like "wikiacom" for linking to pages on www.wikia.com. --Singkong2005 16:25, 28 June 2006 (UTC)

Worse yet, the default interwiki table on a new MediaWiki install contains a link for Wikia: which is incorrect - so there are many independent wikis where the prefix exists but gives an invalid URL (both /wiki/ and index.php when one of the two would have sufficed).


 * The intro to the map says "We don't add new Wikia wikis here now since they can be linked using... wikia:c:pets:page name or wikiasite:pets:page name from Wikimedia projects." - the first option ( wikia:c:pets:page name ) is incorrect - this code doesn't work from Wikipedia. The c: should be removed. Could someone (Angela?) please correct this? Thanks.


 * Actually, I think a much better idea is to leave the intro as it is, and revert the change that was made in about March 06 - i.e. remove the c: from the interwiki maps. Then it would be possible to use Pagename to link to pages on www.wikia.com - e.g. Featured Wikia would work. --Singkong2005 03:16, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

Add fr.wikipedia.org
Could WikipediaFr | http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/$1 be added to the interwiki map, please? Thanks ;) ! — Ethaniel
 * I answered at User talk:Ethaniel. Szoferka 17:32, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

Appropedia
Please add: Appropedia || http://www.appropedia.org/index.php?title=$1

Thanks --Singkong2005 05:31, 4 August 2006 (UTC)