Forum:New IRC channel

This is for those that use the #wikia channel on Freenode. The channel hasn't been used or supported by staff for some time now, and there have been a few disagreements about the channel administration. So, as staff aren't around to help with these, we've decided to remove ourselves officially and to redirect the channel to a new unofficial one.

The ops for this new channel need to be decided, and staff won't be part of that decision. This page is for the IRC regulars to decide how to choose ops, and then who to choose. Once that choice is made, I will hand over the new channel and redirect the old. So, over to you.... please let us know when the decision is final. Thanks -- sannse http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb32675/wikia/images/e/e9/WikiaStaff.png (help forum | blog) 16:49, October 28, 2011 (UTC)
 * I'm assuming you won't be able to get wikia cloaks anymore? 1358  (Talk)  16:54, October 28, 2011 (UTC)
 * There won't be new ones, no. It's been pretty hard to get hold of them for a while anyway, I'm only on IRC for a short time in the (SF) evenings. I'll stay as GC to maintain existing cloaks and so on though -- sannse http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb32675/wikia/images/e/e9/WikiaStaff.png (help forum | blog) 17:20, October 28, 2011 (UTC)
 * I havn't seen many people who voiced a compliant about OPs in #wikia, but I understand the move if staff aren't ever going to be present (which has been the status quo for some time). In terms of ops for the new channel, Charit, Godisme, Vega and Myself are the people who I generally see using op who already have it, and I think can be trusted with it on the new channel, perhaps +o to some other regulars who are trusted as well, or someone I've missed? --  Random Time  17:48, October 28, 2011 (UTC)

Tis a shame to see that newer users will be unable to receive IRC cloaks to show their pride in Wikia and to help ensure they are who they say they are onwiki. It would appear the current ops have things under control, but I wouldn't oppose some regulars in the channel to receive +o as well. 19:38, October 28, 2011 (UTC)


 * As Zam said, the current OPs have things running pretty smoothly, and I'm not opposed to some regulars receiving +o, as long as they have a client, since webchat doesn't allow banning. –  Jä zz  i  20:12, October 28, 2011 (UTC)
 * What are you talking about, webclient allows banning. 21:19, October 28, 2011 (UTC)
 * Derp. I knew webchat didn't allow something, thought it was banning instead of /ignore. –  Jä zz  i  21:25, October 28, 2011 (UTC)


 * I would suggest Jäzzi, Monchoman45 and myself as the three of us are usually on at times that the others above aren't. Rappy 20:35, October 28, 2011 (UTC)
 * If I may, I'd like to put myself in the hat of suggestions. I'm on a good majority of the time lurking. 22:21, October 28, 2011 (UTC)


 * We don't need that many ops. My suggestion is this, myself, Charitwo and Randomtime, being the active administrators of community central, Vega Dark, being a trusted member of the VSTF and in a timezone not covered by the rest of us, and Monchoman45 who is usually on in the mornings, a time that most of the other ops are not on or not paying attention. While Rappy, Jazzi and Zam are trusted enough to receive +o, I don't see the necessity for it. From my experience on the channel, things are usually handled by charitwo, Randomtime or Vega and occasionally myself. Not a whole lot is missed and one of us can be pinged if something happens. So that is my suggestion.--
 * I disagree, the more ops the better to a reasonable extent. More ops ultimately means more coverage, and if there are trusted users willing to volunteer their time doing it... why not? I'd support all of the above mentioned people. 22:44, October 28, 2011 (UTC)
 * Maybe give trusted users +r to enable quieting? 1358  (Talk)  06:21, October 29, 2011 (UTC)
 * I suppose as I was mentioned in #wikia too (and I've mused about this myself too) I would be available as an well-experienced IRC channel administrator for whatever duties are needed. (: –Tm_T (Talk) 09:02, October 29, 2011 (UTC)
 * Sorry I'm a little late to this, technical difficulties. Webchat does allow full use of /mode, through a hack or two I could extend that to allow for a quick /op /mode +b-o. Alternatively, I could get a client to use as my banning client. Whichever works out better.

A couple of things: Firstly, don't forget you need an F as well as ops. Also remember that this is a brand new channel and the past organization does not have to be the same as the future... this is not an op decision, the channel has no ops yet :) And, while it's up to you how you make this decision, I'd love it if as many people as possible could be involved -- sannse http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb32675/wikia/images/e/e9/WikiaStaff.png  (help forum | blog)  06:18, October 29, 2011 (UTC)
 * Indeed, although I see the already mostly community-run team be in core of this. (: –Tm_T (Talk) 09:02, October 29, 2011 (UTC)
 * The people most likely to be on IRC are normally regulars on central as well, so it's a good mix, as far as +F goes - Charit seems the obvious choice if nobody has any other suggestions. I'd be happy giving Rappy, Jazzi, Tm_T op, I havn't had too much experience of Zam to know if he'd be a good candidate, but I'm sure others can give their opinion on that, I don't have any objections to him being op. --  Random Time  13:08, October 29, 2011 (UTC)
 * I'd support VegaDark for +F personally, and I'd also be fine with Tm_T being an op. As I said above, the more the merrier (to a reasonable extent). 13:54, October 29, 2011 (UTC)
 * I have no objections to any of those. Whatever works for everyone else.

After some discussion yesterday, I think most of us think Charitwo would be best for +F. With that we can work with Freenode staff about setting up a new cloak for new users and means of obtaining them. Most of us supported keeping the channel purpose mainly the same as it has been of late, a social place for the most part but a place users can come to receive help if they need it. If they need staff, we just direct them elsewhere. Most also believe that irc.wikia.com should be redirected to Special:Chat. As for Ops, I still believe we only need a handful but if others really want many ops, I am fine with that.--
 * I'm fine with Charitwo to have +F. The only issue I can see is if Wikia makes it an unofficial channel people will no longer go in there looking for help, which is what a lot of people do. Also, in some of the discussions on IRC many have stated that they will not sit in Special:Chat 24/7 to provide help to users since Chat has connection issues often. I support many Ops, since it doesn't really hurt to have more cookies in the cookie jar, it just sucks when there isn't any when you want one. 16:22, October 29, 2011 (UTC)
 * Charitwo seems the best bet for +F. And as for OPs:
 * Charit is normally always connected.
 * Randomtime has the timezone of Englandland so he's on when others aren't.
 * Vega is on when others aren't.
 * Zam, while normally connected, has connection issues.
 * Godisme is normally on, during class and goes to sleep later than the others in the eastern timezone.
 * Monch is normally on in the mornings, so that's good and I'm pretty sure he knows the controls.
 * Rappy is on pretty much all the times, but he's not always on on, so it might be some time for a response.
 * While I'm always connected on Jaz|away, I'm not always connected on my laptop, so I'm not on during the day due to school. But I have no life in the afternoon, but I sleep early.
 * –  Jä zz  i  16:46, October 29, 2011 (UTC)


 * Trust in mine stalwart declaration when I state that I cannot disagree more with my esteemed colleague. Charitwo doth possess a mean spirit and temper which doth often flare in excess, leading to heinous acts of the kind which have rarely been seen in civilized society. He doth enjoy use of the gag, and believe firmly in use of the truncheon in lieu of words. He doth protesteth too much! Goodwood  Talk  | My Darthipedia   Edits  18:46, October 29, 2011 (UTC)


 * A couple of things, while Charitwo does have a temper, he has gotten much better with it, and is truly the best choice for +F.
 * And you need to template your sig. –  Jä zz  i  18:51, October 29, 2011 (UTC)