Thread:Su712/@comment-31762568-20210101195105

Hi Su. How are you? I hope you are in the best of health and everything is fine with you. I am fine too (regardless of the ban). According to Community Central staff member's blog (https://community.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:Sannse/How_to_Get_Unblocked), blocked users have 2 chances to contact the admins of the wiki on which they are banned to appeal their block, so this is my second chance and final attempt to appeal my ban. I have used my first appeal chance with Anon and now I am using my second chance with you. My appeal to Anon was a little weak and lacked sufficient evidences and explanations. In that, I was more begging Anon to unban me and telling him how good I had tried to be and told him why I did multiple edits on pages than giving more valid explanation. This is why I am contacting you after Anon, so I can explain each and everything more clearly. This message is going to be a long-detailed essay and the biggest of all messages I have ever typed on internet. So please forgive me if it will take a little moment of your time reading. I want to make this appeal as convincing as possible and most importantly, sorry to disturb you if you were busy. I truly apologize. I don't know if you people want to hear from me again or not (which I assume you people totally don't) but for appealing the ban (which has been for a year), I have contacted you and I know, I had a terrible past in Shadow Fight Wiki. The last few months of 2019 went so horrible for me which even I hate to talk about with you but for appeal the ban once again, I will. It has been a whole year since my ban. I thought it will be a lot better to contact you after a year. I want to give valid reasons as to why my ban should be reconsidered and why I shouldn't have been banned. I would like to appeal against all the reasons for which I was banned, although I have tried to be the best contributor and good person in the wiki and have done my best to abide by the wiki rules, decorum and conduct, especially for you people and the wiki itself. Now let me begin:

1) I was doing one word edits on pages to increase my edit counts (which is false).

This is one of the main reasons for which I was banned. This has also been given as my block reason. Anon thought that I was doing one word repeated edits on pages to increase my edit counts but that's not true. I was wrongly accused of this. I was editing pages like people normally do. Most of my edits were not one word at all. Most of them were multiple edits done at once. I used to do one word edits because I spotted mistakes one at a time so I just normally edited any mistake I spotted without paying any attention to the edit history and without considering that my edit counts are increasing. When Anon spotted this, he told me to edit pages in one go whenever I want to edit any pages because it gets irritating to sort through one word edits continuously and so did Warrior Of Time so I willingly complied with them. Okay, now let me give you a proof regarding this. See my screenshot below:

TC Hiper himself agrees that editing a page over and over is not even a rule because if this was the case, he would have been banned for this too. I have seen many people doing more than one edits on pages and most of them were even one word. For example, let us take my wiki friend HailToShadow's edits on Chapter 7, Part 2 page on 17th November 2019. He did up to 5 edits on that page. The amount of his changes in 1 edit is so less (1-3 word edits in one edit). Does it mean his intention was to increase his edit counts by doing that? Of course no. He just edited whatever mistakes he spotted at any time. I have seen someone else do the same. The user named Itsadrak32001 on wiki on 18th November 2020 did so many minor edits on pages in different edits. Some of those edits included one to two word changes as well. But they were minor changes mostly. This person might have not worried about the edit history being filled up at all. I edited pages just like a user would normally do. Whatever I spotted, I edited without considering the edit history being filled and caring for my edit counts. I didn't consider this as my alternative way to increase my edit counts. I just simply edited pages like people would normally do. Sure I did multiple single edits on pages, but my intention was not to increase my edit counts. Please believe me, I didn't try to increase my edit counts. There are many people who have done multiple edits at once on pages for their own reasons. Does it mean they were increasing their edit counts too? Of course not. This makes my ban unfair because I didn't try to increase my edit counts in a disgraceful way. My edit counts in the wiki are fair like they normally should be.

2) I was disrupting Wiki's information and wasn't accepting this fact.

This is also one of the reasons I have received from Master Shadow. That I was disrupting and messing with Wiki's information and wasn't accepting that I was doing this. Let me make it clear. I did accept I was disrupting Wiki's information by doing wrong edits and this changed with time. I became very careful while editing pages. Before my demotion, I did some of them but they were due to my lack of knowledge and weren't really my intention. Everyone makes mistakes for sure. I accept that I disrupted the wiki's information a bit by doing wrong edits and changing already correct stuff in the past, but I didn't want to do this. I just lacked knowledge and failed to search things properly at proper time. I broke little coding on Soundtrack (SF2) page as a result of not following Warrior's advice to check edits before checking and telling him to correct my mistake for which I got demoted. After that, I started to change a lot. I always checked my edits well before publishing them so as to not leave any mistakes. I even started taking all advices from other admins very seriously. The amount of my mistakes reduced a lot as I was learning very much. And when I was, I corrected most of the mistakes myself. I did some wrong edits due to my lack of knowledge, not intentionally to disrupt the wiki like vandals who entirely mess up the wiki pages. Warrior told me to not reply to any message on anyone's wall until the intented person replies. I followed this. Both admins told me not to rename pages without consulting them. I followed this too. They even told me to edit pages in one go because it gets irritating to sort through one word edits continuously (I entirely explained this one above). Most importantly, even Anon's warning before my demotion had some effect on me too. It's not like I completely ignored it. I only continued to be blind at that time. I stopped arguing and debating people on what is right or wrong and stopped judging people on grammar. After I was demoted, I started to change out of fear of me getting banned. I was not a daring person at all. Let's take Inenarrativus for example. This person got banned the same day I was banned because he audaciously reverted admins' edits twice after they reverted his wrong edits (on Shadow Fight 3 and Chapter VII, Part 2 pages) instead of discussing his reverted edit with an admin on their wall. I have never seen such an audacious person who can even dare to revert admins' edits as if it was his own wiki. This was even against the rules. If I were him, I would never do such a thing. I would instead politely discuss my reverted edits with the admins. I did try to show a lot improvement to you people. I even started to check things well before changing them. There are many people who do wrong edits on pages. It's not just me. Let's take another example. Shadowslayer also made a mistake in editing Dragon's Roar page on 22nd January 2020. He changed a word in a sentence which states "Dragon's Roar can also be obtained as a random reward after winning any fight in Chapter V, by opening a Chest (better chests have higher chances), or by purchasing the Dynasty Booster Pack". He changed chapter V to II here. Warrior had to revert it. He only changed it because he misunderstood at some point. He only changed it because he saw one of his friends in Chapter II have that weapon. So he thought it was correct to make that change. Okay, now was his intention vandalism or disruption here? No, of course. He just made a mistake, thinking it was correct. Let's take another person named Khan Chau for example on that wiki. On January 23rd, this person nitpicked and considered one uncapitalized letter on a word a mistake and he made this little change on so many pages. Warrior had to revert them all as I saw and he told him not to do this again. Everyone makes mistakes for sure. You people also believe that I try to look for mistakes in other's work but I don't. Those mistakes were already there including grammar and stuff. I corrected those mistakes to improve and help the wiki all the time. Okay, even if I did try to find mistakes in anyone's work (Which I didn't. Suppose this is the case.), I never meant to offend anyone, rather I would correct them and help the wiki. I was never even rude or harsh in correcting others.

3) I was underestimating Anon's English grammar and knowledge:

This is the reason which I recieved from Master Shadow about my ban and this is one of the main reasons for which I was banned. You believe that I was always against Anon's English grammar and I did my best to underestimate it. But that's a no. Me criticizing Anon's grammar was all in the past, months before I was blocked before Anon warned me about my demotion. At that time, I didn't entirely criticize his grammar. I blindly criticized him for using future tense for attack description on pages, which I kept changing thinking they were wrong, which I then realized that he did it for a purpose and tried to convey a meaning and they were used to show a possibility or a process rather than just future as he told me. I started to comply well on his warning then and started to revert all my changes to what they were in the first place. Also, I never said to Anon openly "Oh hey, your grammar sucks!". I was never this rude. In the past, like 2 years ago, I was proofreading SF3 pages and noticed a lot of grammatical mistakes. So I asked on the discussion thread that why do the new SF3 pages have low quality grammar. So you explained the decent reason that "English is not everyone's first language and whatever...". After that, Anon admitted to his mistake and confessed himself as the culprit as he added most of the content. After that, Master Shadow corrected him on his mistakes. I didn't really say anything after that. All I did is wished him good luck in improving his English and the matter ended. I was never really against Anon's grammar. I just wanted to help him improve like a friend. His grammar was his own grammar, not mine. So I didn't really care about it being imperfect. I even judged you for your one line on Chapter III page, which I thought was wrong, which was correct as turned out when I googled on which I started an unnecessary debate on wiki and I apologize to you for it. I should have just simply googled that word to begin with instead of foolishly starting a futile debate on it. I did this terrible thing. I did accept that it is me who needed to learn some sentence structures and wording instead of Anon. Anon does have a lot better vocabulary than me. I accepted this as well. I accept that I went a lot overboard with proofreading pages out of which I started judging even your grammar. I do apologise and am sorry for this. However, my purpose of proofreading pages was to make the wiki the best source of Shadow Fight information with you people, devoid of all grammatical and spelling errors (that is why I paid the most attention to grammatical mistakes on pages) and to help the wiki and make the articles pristine, not to judge anyone's grammar like "Hey look everyone! I'm proofreading pages. I have a lot better grammar than you all and everyone's grammar sucks except mine. Yay!!". This was never the case. I even wanted to proofread all past SF1 and 2 pages. I could not proofread all pages alone. So I made a proofreading team with my 2 other friends. I and the other admins allowed HailToShadow to lend me a hand because he himself volunteered at first to help me with proofreading. And about Shadowslayer, with him on our side, our work would be easier because three different people would take 3 different tasks of proofreading. I took a huge task to proofread all SF3 main quest pages because I wanted to and would love to and gave my friends the task of proofreading weapon pages. I did make some mistakes however that I mostly focused on grammar part rather than sentence structures and not bothering to know their meanings, but this changed with time. Till December, I had become a lot better because I have better knowledge now. I had become a total grammar nazi back then as said by Warrior. Anon also had to say me that he sometimes feels that it is I who needs to learn some sentence structures instead of him. But I changed a lot after being demoted. I always checked before editing, especially during proofreading, like checking sentence contexts etc. I did not explicitly criticize Anon's grammar. I tried to be great friends with Anon, despite his English knowledge. I had not tried to gain any superiority over Anon or anyone, just in terms of their grammar and if I had done proofreading now instead of back then, my proofreading work would be much more admirable. I not only proofread pages, but also helped with minor content adding and so did my friends. I'm sure that no one would have proofread SF3 main quests the way I did. The thing is we all loved contributing to the wiki and now we're sad that it's all in the past now. Most of my friends left the wiki after my ban because I was the one who guided their contributions and without me, their contributions were nothing. Shadowslayer had nothing to do regarding contributions in the wiki so he left as there was no one there to guide his contributions and is rarely active. HailToShadow left for like a whole year after my ban and I doubt he'll return without me on. I have told them I will make this appeal to you and they are hoping the best for me. They are also keeping eye here for your response.

4) I spammed your social media:

Anon told me that I kept on spamming your social media. But that's not the case. I didn't always spam your social media. I just talked to you on your social media like friends normally do. I just sent multiple messages to you at once sometimes. The only time I spammed you was when Anon told me that I won't get any promotion because I was very upset at this. Anon told me that my demotion will be reconsidered if I show some change for real and I was doing so. I know what change I had to show. I had to start listening to people when they correct me on my mistakes more and not give any sort of excuses and take all suggestions and advices from you admins seriously. He cancelled my promotion just because I talked about my efforts to get it with people, mostly Shadowslayer (He was interested in me being a staff member again. I was trying to cheer him up.). I want to explain you the situation behind this as well. Anon told me that I kept on spouting about my attempts to get the promotion again and the wiki prohibits asking for promotions and whoever does it gets disqualified from getting it. But I just talked about my efforts to get it with my friends. I didn't ask for promotions from you admins. If Anon was too much irritated by me spouting about my attempts, he should have just corrected me on this mistake. Anon told me to show some change for real and this is exactly what I was doing. All I did is described it in words and Anon got offended by it. I didn't know what I was doing was a mistake at all. If he had corrected me on that, I would have complied and stayed quite, that's it. But Anon took an inappropriate step over me instead after tolerating my actions for weeks which I was unaware of. He could have just corrected me on that mistake instead of tolerating my actions for so long. After that, I kept on telling Anon that I wasn't aware of that rule and won't do it again but he didn't accept or reply either. Only Warrior replied after sometime and said that what is decided is done and told me to stop spamming casual discussion thread with futile messages and I am only worsening my case further which is already at edge. After that, I gave a last message on that thread as I had mistakenly used the casual discussion thread for my own matter with Anon. The real reason why I used the casual discussions thread instead of Anon's wall was because it had become my habit to use casual discussion threads for every discussions (I am being honest). After that, I continuously messaged you on fb regarding that matter. Then when you saw my messages, you replied on the wiki and blocked me on fb after saying you will not respond to any messages regarding that topic on any social media platform. Then I apologized to you on wiki for spamming your fb and promised to not talk to you on that topic ever again but you deleted the message. And then I messaged you on Discord apologizing to you. Then you blocked me from there as well. This is because I wanted to stay as friends with you regardless of all that happened. When I lost you on my social media, I was truly hurt (I am being more open now. I can't consider this as a time to hold anything back anymore.). I didn't consider that rule as common sense because I have seen many places where people have asked for promotions and at least I didn't ask for promotion the first time I was promoted (Please don't be offended. I'm just giving my own view.). I was not going to derail that topic anymore. I couldn't give up being friends with you just for the sake of debating for promotion. However, after Anon told me my mistake, did I "ever" talk about any of my efforts for anything again? No, right? I kept silent most of the time after it. I didn't give up trying to be better. I know, I know it's my fault I was demoted. I was even warned but I stupidly continued with my uncooperative behavior. I shouldn't have wasted my second chance. I should have taken simple advices from you people seriously, which I could have done. I was just stupid enough not to. Because if I didn't waste my second chance, I would not have had such a horrible past and I wouldn't be demoted at all. I wasted the most important moment of my time in the wiki. I regret this till now. I acknowledge that you people didn't expect this from me. You people expected better performance from me but I only hurt your feelings instead by showing bad performance. When you promoted me to Discussions Moderator, you were so sure that I will show good performance but I only disappointed you instead. I'm terribly sorry for breaking your hopes. You people liked me a lot. We were even great friends. When I joined the wiki, you were the one I used to talk to a lot. I liked being friends with you. Sad I brought it all to an end. Anon did not want to demote me but I forced him. I am truly ashamed. I couldn't believe that I would even show bad performance to you people and now I'm a former staff member in that wiki. But I even started to improve myself after that and make up for my wrongdoings. However, the 18th casual discussions thread being wasted did not really matter as casual discussion threads did not really continue after my ban. Before my ban and after 18th discussion thread was closed, we wanted a new discussion thread. So HailToShadow asked for a new discussion thread (in which I apologized for wasting the last one) and he received no response from you. So he had no choice but to create the thread himself and he did it and you admins didn't mind it at all. Okay, now following the debate I had with you people about not getting the promotion, I discussed this with Master Shadow after I was banned. He explained me the issue in the most basic way. He told me that talking about your efforts in wiki actually means asking for promotions, whether you mean it or not and this is entirely different from when you tell people about your efforts in studies in school.

5) I linked your facebook profile on a public discussion thread:

In Anon's response to my last message to me here on Community Central, he told me that you didn't get over the fact that I gave your Facebook profile in public thread without your permission. But why? I thought you got over it as I apologized. It was all in the past, a long time before my demotion and ban (like 4-5 months). It isn't even worth considering anymore. I can explain you the reason again. I gave your FB profile because Warrior was asking for it in case he contacts you sometime (which he currently does). I didn't know you would be offended. I had no other purpose than showing it to Warrior as he asked me for it. When you saw it, you got offended and deleted that message and told me to not do that again and I agreed. I apologized to you and resolved to not do that again and you forgave me. I'm sorry for it again but it was pathetic to know that you didn't get over this fact. Anon told me that me sharing your fb profile in a public thread caused a serious problem but I don't know what it was as you deleted your profile link I shared in that thread and I truly apologized for it. I didn't see any harmful thing happening. I don't even know what problem it caused for real.

Now apart from all reasons above, I would like to add further information about my friends and all etc and give the conclusion to my message. My friends including HailToShadow and Shadowslayer also know that I am appealing my ban to you. They are hoping the best for me. I had supported them a lot in the wiki and they had supported me. I always helped them with their contributions. Without me, their contributions were nothing. We loved contributing to the wiki and now we're sad that it's all in the past now. We worked together to proofread all wiki pages. I don't really even have to miss them at all. I have contact with each and every of them on Facebook, including Shadowslayer, HailToShadow, Alfatih, TC Hiper and Master Shadow (I am friends with him till now. He left the wiki.). Shadowslayer loved contributing to the wiki but it all came to an end after I was banned as I was his guide in editing. I loved to teach him. He started calling me his master. After I was banned, no one was helping him with his edits and didn't even know what to edit. So he left contributing and is barely active now. I still talk to them very actively. Even if I remain banned, they will continue to be my friends and support me. I can talk to them forever. When I was banned, my friends were disappointed, especially HailToShadow and Shadowslayer as they lost the one who used to teach them. I liked to work with you admins as well and even that came to an end. I would like to appear in the wiki again which I couldn't in the past year. I didn't want my time in the wiki to end up so bad. That wiki was like my home. I used to spend most of my time there, keeping eye on edits, vandalism etc. I had a lot of free time in the past year. I could have spent most of it serving and contributing to the wiki, along with my friends as well as we were making good progress there. I didn't want to be banned in the wiki ever. If I wanted to be banned, I would have severely vandalised the wiki and broken the rules, but I didn't, rather I contributed to it more. I might have shown some wrong behavior there and did normal mistakes but I was still a good person. I helped people, especially my friends with their contributions and contributed myself too. This should not have been interrupted. I was even learning a lot of new things there regarding wiki contributions, liking basic coding and whatever. I wanted to be a complex editor there and make better contributions in the future, along with friends. I was never meant to be banned in the wiki. I could have even done a lot for you people. It's so sad that I couldn't post on the wiki in 2020. I was just seeing activity there. A whole year has passed since my ban. I decided to appeal once again now as a year would also be enough for the situation to cool down. Let me be honest. I was never warned that I will be banned. If I was warned, I would not refuse to heed the warning. Others corrected me on my mistakes and requested me some things to do or not do for sure. But the future of me being banned was never mentioned in them. Yes, the only time I warned about being banned is by Warrior Of Time when he warned me to not reply to anyone's messages on their walls unless the intended person replies (8 days after I was demoted). He even that they had warned me that they have told me many times to not do it. But that's a no. I was never told not to do this before he gave me that warning. I swear this. He even said I will be permanently banned for it. But why? This isn't even an offense. However, I complied very well with his warning and never did this again in fear of me getting banned. Even Shadowslayer got this warning from Warrior as he interfered in other's wall threads multiple times too. I have seen many people messaging on other's wall threads honestly. You people banned me because you people were done tolerating me but please believe me, I didn't ignore your tolerances. I tried to be the best I could, according to the best of my abilities, for you people especially. I had done some wrong things in the past but I also made up for most of them. I might have deserved a lighter punishment for them but I didn't deserve a permanent ban at all. This was way too much. Even a year is enough for me to become how you want me to be. I'm even more mature now and have better knowledge than before. I'm a college student now. In his last message to me on Community Central, Anon told me in the last few lines that I don't seem to be the type who can keep silent that easy. But I was already silent. What did Anon even mean by this? I didn't even argue with the admins about any wiki content or information. I remained silent most of the time after all the tragedies which happened with me. I didn't even dare to do anything wrong anymore. I just silently did my work. I only spoke in cases of necessity with the other admins. He also told me that I was trying to bypass the ban by making excuses but they were not excuses. I was telling him how good I've tried to be for you people. Those were valid reasons as to why I should be unbanned, although they were brief. So my ban has to be reconsidered. I miss the time I used to talk to you a lot and was friends with you. Sad that it all came to an end. Now in case I am not getting unblocked, I just want this to be the last time I hear from you and I also want to wish you my final goodbyes (which I couldn't at all and I might not ever be able to meet you again) and apologize to you for all the pain I had given you in the past. I thank you for all the good times you had spent with me. Even if you close this thread after replying, I will have nothing left to say. I have made things this much clear. This is my final attempt to be unblocked. I will never contact any SF wiki admin ever again after this. I only contacted you because my ban was not peremptory yet as I had another chance to appeal. If there are any agreements you want to make with me or you have any promises you want me to make, I'm ready for it. If I get unblocked with some restrictions or supervisions kept, that is okay too. I can even consult you people before making any edits or contributions if this is what you admins want. I might not edit pages more often like before anyway. Another thing is that if I'm not getting unbanned, I'm going to close my wiki account as a wiki account is of no use to me without that wiki. Anyway, I hope all that I have stated above convinces you to reconsider my ban. I wish you goodbye otherwise. Take care! 