Forum:Unfair block by Toughpigs

user:Toughpigs seems to have blocked me on every wiki I have. He gave only this reason. ''Cross-Wiki problems. Please don't unblock''. I have asked him countless times on the wiki I was unblocked at but he never responded. I have also talked to staffers and they said to talk to Danny about it. He never responded. It happened over 2 months ago but I still want the rights of editing on those wikis. I never have vandalised on a wiki but he still blocked me. Countless editors have fought agaisnt my block and I am thinking of sueing Wikia because of this! If you do not answer I can sue! -- H a pp y f a c e 01:03, 29 December 2008 (UTC) I suggest that you talk to a member of the Community Team. They helped me out a few times. --Michaeldsuarez (Talk) (Deeds) 18:49, 29 December 2008 (UTC)
 * I'm sorry but I do not think you can sue Wikia, you are too young to defend yourself and it would cost a lot of money.--Rbfskywalker 12:11, 29 December 2008 (UTC)

R you saying I'm poor Rbfskywalker? Get outta my life, you've already ruined 1 wiki! I've talked to Sannse about it, she said Danny will reply. And I actually can defend myself. So shut it Skywalker. I have two uncles that r lawyers. I'll talk to Angela Jsharp and Uberfuzzy. -- H a pp y f a c e 23:17, 29 December 2008 (UTC)


 * You can't sue Wikia for a ban. They don't even need a reason to ban you. --LordTBT Talk! 21:45, 31 December 2008 (UTC)


 * Yes, and you should read Terms of use first. Dancing Penguin http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/clubpenguin/images/6/6c/Smile_spin.gif (Talk!) 12:03, 3 January 2009 (UTC)
 * I was not trying to insult you. Go ask your Uncles about this and see what they say, I do not think they will advise going to court. And it was not me who ruined that wiki, I think you need to calm down. But it would seem you don't want my help so don't listen to me.--Rbfskywalker 14:18, 3 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Guys, the Club Penguin Wiki has nothing to do with this... I think Dancing Penguin http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/clubpenguin/images/6/6c/Smile_spin.gif (Talk!) 14:24, 3 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Did you ever think perhaps you were hacked. Then again, they would have probably changed your password... The MarioGalaxy2433g5  { talk /contribs/Logs} 21:08, 3 January 2009 (UTC)

(Reset indent) Nah, I've been hacked, password not changed. —This unsigned comment is by 70.143.86.132 (talk • contribs) Please sign your posts with !
 * Are you still blocked? Have you tried talking to Angela or CatherineMunro yet? --Michaeldsuarez (Talk) (Deeds) 13:22, 15 January 2009 (UTC)

Actually I got regex blocked for saying I'm 11 even though I'm in 8th grade and I'm 13. :(. --Happyface
 * Why did you say that for? Haven't you read Wikia's Terms of use? It says that users under 13 can't use Wiki. I hope you have a way to convince them that you're really 13. --Michaeldsuarez (Talk) (Deeds) 13:36, 16 January 2009 (UTC)
 * He was ashamed of playing Club Penguin with that age... Dancing Penguin  http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/clubpenguin/images/6/6c/Smile_spin.gif (Talk!) 14:41, 16 January 2009 (UTC)
 * This is why people should never lie. --Michaeldsuarez (Talk) (Deeds) 16:20, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

I'm sorry to hear that you are having problems, Happyface, and you did the right thing to come to Central Wikia and ask for help (although help requests belong in the Help Desk, rather than the Watercooler). But you are supposed to 'assume good faith' in other people and I think it is very antagonistic of you to have said: 'If you do not answer I can sue!'. It is highly likely that the busy people at the top of Wikia currently know nothing about your problem and opening your help request with a threat of court action is a very rude thing for you to do. (On top of that, threatening an organisation with legal action is going to make some minor officials feel that they can't answer you without taking legal advice from their superiors, so this could slow down your help request. I have also heard that, in some countries, threatening to take legal action agaist someone is justifiable cause for them to take legal advice from a lawyer and then countersue to recover the money. So if that is true, you shouldn't get confrontational or you could be sued yourself.)

Wikia is a free service and for the money we pay (which is zero) we get a fantastic service 99 percent of the time. I've had a problem with Wikia myself (when my wiki application got accidentally dropped) but I first assumed they were busy and then (after a few months of waiting) asked politely for help. When the right people found out about my problem I got help very quickly. And I didn't need to be rude or threatening to anyone to get help. I found the Wikia staff very polite and helpful (and they said sorry without me demanding an appology). It is a bit disapointing that you have not given them the chance to be helpful of their own will. And it is a bit sad too, because if people do help you (or say sorry) you are never going to know if they helped because they want to help you or because you were rude.

I hope you get your problem solved, but we all have to live together in a big community. We all get problems (from time to time). From what you are saying it looks like you think that Toughpigs made a mistake. We all make mistakes. Maybe Toughpigs has made a mistake. If so, I hope that it gets fixed. Eventually, it will be you that makes a mistake and I wouldn't want to see someone else threatening to take you to court if you don't immediately do X, Y and Z.

Even thought you have a problem with Toughpigs, you should still assume good faith. If he/she sees you as an underage person abusing Wikia rules, then they would be acting in good faith in blocking you (and you would be the cause of your own problem). Or if they have acted in error, they might actually be busy and not able to reply to your direct requests. There could be a number of reasons why a person might make a mistake and block you. All you really need to do is get their block reconsidered. After all, if things get sorted out, Toughpigs may eventually be someone who you might be able to call a friend.

Next time you have a problem, I hope that you will ask for a solution without being confrontational. We all have to help each other make our wikis better and anger just gets in the way of people helping you.

Again, I hope this gets sorted out soon and that you make a lot of friends on Wikia who help you with future projects and make your future problems go away without too much disruption. Good luck!David Shepheard 18:39, 16 January 2009 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the really long response. I'm sure Danny can become a future friend(if not frenemey) so I'm trying to convince wikia I'm 13(I am). I'm sure he made a mistake:My IP got messages saying to stop vandalizing(Unencilopedia, Halo wiki,recipes wiki). I never read the terms:I made this file a few days after my 13th birthday but never got to use it until summer.


 * But also, do you see 13 and up pople playing Club penguin. No a lot. I know a few 7, 8, 9, 6 yr olds playing CP. Can there be a place like clubpenguin.kidswikia.com. It would be for kids and by kids? Does anyone support my idea?
 * See Forum:Free the Wikia please. --Michaeldsuarez (Talk) (Deeds) 13:48, 17 January 2009 (UTC)