User blog comment:BertH/Wikia's evolution continues with VisualEditor/@comment-3441771-20131016145259/@comment-5076341-20131026074745

''Either way, Wikia created that whole separate edit page thinking that *all* users were going to be using it. Now that most users will be switching over to the VisualEditor, it makes sense to give us—those that will disable it—back a true text editor.''

''This would make a sourcetopia! There's a lot of rubbish in the current editor which is completely unnecessary. The right-rail, for one, has absolutely no use coupled with a text editor. Especially the category module which we all know is like filling a bucket while under water if in source mode. Everything the right-rail has can be done by (custom) edit buttons across the top 10x better... plus! ''

I have to agree. I will have some learning to do myself with a more scource-y editor, but I think it will be usefull. I would be devestated if they got rid of scource editing, but that might be better than what I can imagine happening, an editor in wierd text full of buttons so that it takes for expertise to get to it than use it.

Another issue is that this may be more easy for begginers, but begginers don't stay begginers forever, and more complex feutures encouroges people to learn. That is why I dont think we should be disabling the scource mode.

Now, don't get me wrong here, I like the idea of a "low floor entry" but I think we also need a "high cieling" so that once people move on from the basics, they have somewhere to really thrive, and make the wiki a great place to be. Of course, by then there will be a way to "insert text box" or whatever, until they have created a verion of word.

CSS, JS, and Wikitext will always be the way forwards for those wikis that decide to put in complex formatting and cutting edge readibility. else, the world of wikis will be ruled by people who cannot even make a template without the buttons, and a true admin will become a glorius and mystical wise man...