Forum:Rex discussion

Hi, this page is for discussion of it.rex.wikia and it.ilcommissariorex.wikia

There is some confusion over whether the wikis should merge, and over who (if anyone) is copying content from whom. So this is intended as a neutral space for the problem to be resolved.

If you aren't a direct participant in this issue, plcerease can you stand aside for now - consider this an experiment in public mediation :)

The invited participants are: Cento93, Manuel rubin, and Jeorge. Others from the wikis involved are welcome to join.

Note: we'll need to use English, and I know that's difficult for some involved - but let's see how it goes! -- sannse http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb32675/wikia/images/e/e9/WikiaStaff.png (help forum | blog) 22:53, October 17, 2011 (UTC)

Jeorge purpose is to report, because they want the nosta wikia, be deleted, and its the only one of Rex, I also want to solve the problem but From now enough.Manuel rubin 05:03, October 18, 2011 (UTC)

I'm not an admin of none of this wiki, so, I didn't understand what I have to tell you! I've only helped Jorge and Manuel both for builing templates, using special features, ect. --Cento93 08:54, October 18, 2011 (UTC)

OK, so Cento is a bystander in this (thanks for explaining :)

Jeorge is unhappy that his content is being copied to another wiki; Manuel is unhappy that there are two wikis on the same subject. Are there any other issues on either side of this? -- sannse http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb32675/wikia/images/e/e9/WikiaStaff.png (help forum | blog) 16:49, October 18, 2011 (UTC)

The content is under a license that allows copying, but only if there is proper attribution. That means if Manuel wants to use the content, he has to make it clear on each page who the original author is. In this situation, where both wikis are on Wikia and going to end up very similar with copying, I suspect it will be better to say no copying between wikis at all. Is that something that both of you can agree on?

An alternative would be to consider merging the two wikis officially. But it doesn't sound as though both sides will be able to agree on that. Can both of you say why? What is stopping you from working togther on this? -- sannse http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb32675/wikia/images/e/e9/WikiaStaff.png (help forum | blog) 03:52, October 20, 2011 (UTC)

[removed uninvolved comments, please see the intro, thanks :) -- sannse] We don't seem to be getting very far... here are the options as I see it.

1. We merge the wikis.

2. We say that neither wiki may copy from the other at any time.

3. We allow copying, but each copy must have a clear notice showing the source.

What will you both agree on here? -- sannse http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb32675/wikia/images/e/e9/WikiaStaff.png (help forum | blog) 23:52, October 21, 2011 (UTC)


 * I have already asked administrators to merge it.ilcommissariorex.wikia.com theyr wikia tomine. But they did not want so they started to copy all the contents and photos. Jeorge.

Manuel, can you reply on this please? -- sannse http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb32675/wikia/images/e/e9/WikiaStaff.png (help forum | blog) 00:27, October 25, 2011 (UTC)


 * OK, I've been trying to get this discussion going here and via email, and it really isn't working :(


 * So... here's how it is, for both wikis


 * If you have a specific page that you can show has been copied from your wiki to the other, please add links to this page. Links must show the original version, and the direct copy.
 * If you have copied a page from the other wiki to yours, then it must contain attribution. I've added templates to both wikis to help with this.
 * To attribute something taken from it.rex.wikia, type
 * To attribute something taken from it.ilcommissariorex.wikia, type
 * For both, if the page name is different on the source article then you can type the name of that article after a pipe (for example, would link to the page "Foo")

Let's see if that helps! -- sannse http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb32675/wikia/images/e/e9/WikiaStaff.png (help forum | blog) 20:32, October 27, 2011 (UTC)

In my opinion, would not work anyway, because no one put that the article was copied from another wiki and put your link. --Jeorge 17:39, October 29, 2011 (UTC)

could have worked, now perhaps we unite in some way Manuel rubin 09:41, October 30, 2011 (UTC)


 * The point is that it can work from now. It's easy enough to see from history which wiki copied from which, and if either of you have done that and refuse to add attribution after the links are added here... then I will intervene. So hopefully both of you will add the template when needed -- sannse http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb32675/wikia/images/e/e9/WikiaStaff.png (help forum | blog) 21:28, October 31, 2011 (UTC)

I tell you clearly: I will because I pointed out the copies so you would have done close the other wiki. So ... Please close flaw because last year I did a Wiki that was a bit 'copied from another. So the owner reported it there and you have made ​​me quit. --Jeorge 11:32, November 1, 2011 (UTC)


 * Please see above. If there are copied pages, you now have a way to deal with them. Thanks -- sannse http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb32675/wikia/images/e/e9/WikiaStaff.png (help forum | blog) 22:54, November 1, 2011 (UTC)


 * We merges it.ilcommissariorex.wikia.com in it.rex.wikia.com. Thank you Sannse for helping we! You're very kind!! --Jeorge 21:31, November 2, 2011 (UTC)
 * Is this something you both agree to? If so, you will need to:


 * decide what the main URL should be,
 * copy over any content so that everything is on the same wiki (with the edit history)
 * tell me (both of you) that you are ready, and I will redirect the URLs to the complete wiki
 * OK? -- sannse http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb32675/wikia/images/e/e9/WikiaStaff.png (help forum | blog) 00:01, November 3, 2011 (UTC)

Ok. When we are ready to do the "Redirect" of his addressed to my Wiki (as http://it.squadraspecialecobra11sezione2.wikia.com, which ends up in http://it.squadraspecialecobra11.wikia.com ) I will tell you. --Jeorge 15:40, November 3, 2011 (UTC)


 * Ok, I will need Manuel to write here to say he also agrees to this -- sannse http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb32675/wikia/images/e/e9/WikiaStaff.png (help forum | blog) 15:50, November 3, 2011 (UTC)


 * Ok. When I see him, I tell him to agree the redirect. But we says when create the redirect, beacause we aren't ready. Thanks. --Jeorge 15:58, November 3, 2011 (UTC)

Hi, I'm Squadra Speciale Cobra. I'm the founder of the it.ilcommissariorex wiki. Rubin said the other day: "I'm leaving because I can not anymore." That said, I will not return. I'll take control of the situation. (in grassetto)I agree to the redirect for next monday (19.12.2011)(finegrassetto).

Thanks, Matteo (alias Squadra Speciale Cobra). Squadra Speciale Cobra 20:27, December 12, 2011 (UTC)


 * Hi, sorry for missing this - sounds good!


 * I've left a message for Rubin to ask him to confirm. I still need to know:


 * 1) which wiki has all the content been merged into? (and is that complete?)


 * 1) what should the final URL be?


 * Please let me know. I'm semi-away at the moment, but will try to look her regularly to see how it's all going -- sannse http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb32675/wikia/images/e/e9/WikiaStaff.png (help forum | blog) 12:50, December 27, 2011 (UTC)

The final URL is http://it.rex.wikia.com. The Wiki http://it.rex.wikia.com is complete. Make the redirect Wiki http://it.ilcommissariorex.wikia.com (When I go to it.ilcommissariorex I'm in it.rex!). Rubin is auto-deleted by the administrators of the wiki. It will not return. As noted above, Matteo takes control of the situation. Thanks! --Jeorge 15:11, Dicembre 28, 2011 (UTC+1)


 * Hi, I just got a mail from Rubin confirming this, and have made the redirect. Thanks all -- sannse http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb32675/wikia/images/e/e9/WikiaStaff.png  (help forum | blog)  00:54, January 4, 2012 (UTC)