Thread:Hollowness/@comment-3474542-20160219133336/@comment-1807002-20160219171834

First off thank you for bringing this to my wall, instead of fueling the thread (if intended or not the thread did evolved a bit negativitely enough where spectators are piping in). I felt bombarded, when I was not asking for help (I was offering another person the band-aide workaround I have been using that they requested from me - I was not saying "help me", I said "unless I have missed something you cannot have groups formatted as stacked, in a non stacked infobox") and for the thread I was offering insight on what limitations I found with the new infoboxes, unless I did miss something about having a infobox able to have stacked and non-stacked fields.

I do not need help with my infoboxes (with what options that is currently available), I said I noticed I cannot format groups only using tags instead of labels, in a non-stacked infobox, which unless horizontal groups is the only way but IMO is a band-aide.

But then it got into a #if phaser function tangent, which was NOT what I was asking help for - I wasn't even addressing it just happened to be in my cut/paste example of how I was using a group with a horizontal layout. If anything it was the one thing I am fine with.

Plus if you didn't notice people started to go out of their way to reply to the thread only just to say "stop derailing" like I wanted to have drama. I think FishTank should have either offered the help or said nothing and not end it with the insinuation to stop derailing. It is like someone j-walking across the street offering to hold your hand to cross but then just to tell you "you can't j-walk here", when you were only a few meters away from the sidewalk when you crossed.

It was not just FishTanks or just your response it was both and the fact they were publicly displayed like I was some sort of displaced simpleton getting disciplined. I actually help people on other wikis who have zero template or CSS experience (I do give them the disclaimer I am mostly self taught) but my unconventional way of using infoboxes is still very use to old infobox style and using meta templates that translucent infoboxes (I learned that way from first wiki dragon Age Wiki - which is a highly regarded wiki). And I get compliments on my wikis and how I utilize them, I thought I had at least enough knowhow to share my way of doing things and I felt like I got smacked up side the head - "go back to the drawing board noob".

Plus I had a member of the portability hub wikia Moviesign (they were great I basically learned from how they helped me upgrade), help me upgrade my infoboxes and they never said my #if phaser functions needed to change.