Thread:ShinyMagicalGirl/@comment-38729545-20190727142448/@comment-38729545-20190804030627

"Thanatos is the Greek god of death and has control of own underworld, the tartarus, which is basically the dead world for Personas itself and a prison. Whenever someone dies in Thanatos tower their Persona is sent to the tartarus and sealed there, requiring the characters to physically enter the tartarus to rescue their personas, Yuriko's explanation is that when someone dies, in exchange for the characters remaining alive she / Thanatos mows their personas' lives and imprisons them in the tartarus, so Thanatos must be strong enough to kill a persona and the tartarus must be strong enough to prevent them from escaping without outside help. [//imgur.com/a/5cJve97 http://imgur.com/a/5cJve97]

Already in the Hypnos Tower we came across the sleeping god Hypnos, those who entered his tower immediately slept, and just like Thanatos, Hypnos also had his own kingdom known as Dream World, in this world Hypnos made people's dreams come true, almost like physical realities, so much so that Eriko says that it was authentic reality in every aspect, every person in the dream world had their own version of reality, one of those realities is "cited" as a universe [//imgur.com/a/4lI2h4J http://imgur.com/a/4lI2h4J]

And although it seems very hyperbolic by the way it was said, on another occasion we met the tower keeper, Kumi and Hypnos, who in his version of reality could see galaxies in the background, thus making the realities / dreams created by Hypnos would to be indeed universes.

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Snow Queen who had the 3 gods under her command, merely the guardians she can give to those who made a pact with her, but nevertheless Snow Queen was not the real villain of this route but Night Queen who apparently was also manipulating Snow Queen to bring her eternal night.

And after all I've said, the whole SQQ route goes chronologically before the SEBEC route (main route where we fought Kandori and Pandora), so much so that Mark asks Naoya to help him get into the SEBEC building (basically the beginning of the SEBEC route), in fact Night Queen itself is made from fragments of Maki and Kandori."

Hmmmm after taking some careful consideration of this, I believe the OP should take more context from the game itself regarding Hypno and Thanatos.

Th will of the universe make it perfectly clear that it susceptive to interpretation here.

The assumptions made by the OP needs require by evidence regarding these two character. Hypnos and Thanatos respectively.

If World has been interpreted as being a universe, then it is certainly explain why I see this as a different thing entirely.

Dreams may not necessarily turn into a size of a universe if the visuals contradict on what being stated.

For example, so far I see a shop, a classroom, and some other ones suggesting the Dream World only contains these dreams.

Now to assert these dreams may be the size of a universe may be difficult to prove due to how the visual severely contradicts those on what has been stated.

In this case, the underworld and the dream world may be a size of a universe, but the underworld was never stated to being the size of a universe. As such, I will consider it being unquantifiable until further info is revealed about this underworld.

The dream world on the other hand may be the size of a universe, but if what the OP claimed is true regarding the unique properties of the Dream World, then I have to consider the likely interpretation of this “Dream World” contains these dreams of unknown size.

Yes, the will of the universe is established in case of it being Low 2C so far. In fact, this does solidified a 2C rating with the likely 2B coming into mind.

I proposed that “2C, likely 2B” could be acceptable depending what feats has been accomplished by certain individuals if they were stated to created this multiverse.

However, given the evidence at hand, I do find more appealing to rate specific individual with a very strong will to rated as “Low 2C” for the time being.

So far the evidence is actually support toward the feats based on what has been represented by the OP.

Therefore, while the cosmological structure is almost certainly 2B, it also means the rating of each individual will constitute a Low 2C rating.

The main reason for this as the lore interpreted by me for Persona 1 and 2 suggested that only individuals with very strong will is able to create a universe of their own will.

However, that doesn’t mean the individuals is capable of creating the multiverse instantly as it does look like it take some time to form the multiverse itself.

After all, the timeframe is unknown and was never stated nor implied they could immediately create this multiverse.

Therefore, while the cosmological structure is 2C/2B, there is little to no evidence on who have actually created this multiverse immediately as it look like to me it has taken its course over time.

To keep everyone happy. I think a safe rating for this will be “At least Low 2C. 2C, likely 2B over time”

The reason for this as there is no mentions of the creator of this multiverse nor do we know the process of how it was done immediately or not.

Therefore, I am more content with this interpretation supported by the evidence the OP has given to me.