Thread:Sloshedtrain/@comment-4750363-20131005164910

Listen, as part of the administrative team of the wikia, we have a lot of obligations. Watching over the users, and give bans, is one of them.

So we do that. We give bans, based on our judgment, and in several cases, the collective judgment from several users.

We do it as we see fit, and so far, the system works, with very few mishaps.

However, there is a matter that is not bothering to only one Administrator, or to only two Administrators, and it is mostly related to Cleric.

Recently there were two long bans he revoked. Those bans were for three months. The people who did those bans based it on the past chat ban log, on the number of warnings the person had been given, and on how grave the matter was. And it wasn't only a decision from one Administrator. I know for a fact, that both of those bans were discussed with at least two Administrators or Moderator, different from the person who brought the issue. It was done to achieve a fitting punishment.

However, Cleric comes and undoes the bans, and does it ''without even talking to the Administrator or Administrators who issued the bans. ''Not talking to the people means that he doesn't really know all the facts that lead to the decision, and only takes his judgment for the unbanning.

Now, this message isn't because he undoes bans. This is for a more worrying issue, which is what makes me leave this message. I have discussed this with somebody else, and that person agreed as well.

The thing is, Cleric is threatening to possibly demote, without any discussion, people he considers are abusing powers. However, he himself is showing a lack of use of the powers he has. Shoehorning his own judgment without consulting the other Administrators...isn't that a power abuse itself? Refusing to talk about the matter and taking advantage of his status as founder...isn't that power abuse itself?

I know he is the founder of the Wikia, but...at the end, he is part of the Administative team. He is somebody with a relatively higher status, but that doesn't mean we, as Administrators from a lower tier, need to be ignored in the matters.

The reason I leave this here is because we, the people who discussed, have decided that Cleric is much more likely to listen to you than to any of us. I myself have tried to contact him three times, yet he doesn't seem to bother to reply to me.

Cleric has good intentions, however, he is falling in an hypochritical trap, whether it is intentional or not. And well...what kind of example can that be?

So yeah, Sloshed...could you please talk to him, and make him realize his mistakes? If you can't, then nobody else can...and he'll be beyond anybody's help.

Thanks, Sloshed. 