Board Thread:New Features/@comment-20644-20170522203248/@comment-1370845-20170601155528

SuperRobot9338 wrote: The question about CSS is: Why not? I already answered and gave the same answer Fandom Staff have given before. The response I got was, "I don't trust that answer, why would that turn advertisers off?" Perhaps Fandom Staff can elaborate more on this if you need them to, but in my case, since they're working for a business that has to constantly speak to advertisers daily and I'm not, I'll take their word for it. And since Modernization is all about reducing the number of ads on pages, which I'm all for, I absolutely do not want to obstruct it or slow it down - which many Central users seem keen to do.

Also, Technobliterator, if you call cogent arguments rage posts and blatant conspiracy theories without any evidence again I'm leaving this thread to you and the rest of the actual rage posters. If you think comments such as "I wouldn't be surprised if we eventually lost all CSS because " is not a conspiracy theory, you are welcome to leave this thread. If Staff hated CSS and customization so much, they could have forced all Portable Infoboxes to use the Europa skin, instead they gave them the option to use CSS through themes. They could have chosen the image in the top nav for each wiki, instead they let us choose our own. They could have forced every wiki's Discussions to use the same set of rules, instead they let us set our own rules.

Need I go on? Customization is core to giving each wiki its own identity, but the page header is key to making the wikis still feel consistent. Therefore it makes sense for the header to be more limited. However, we can't even have that conversation. Because before users discuss whether they should be able to customize the header, or question why advertisers want the page header to be consistent, they post conspiracy theories and rage posts.

(Yes Fandom Staff doesn't care — that doesn't mean we'll shut up. Has that ever happened in a protest? Actually, give sources this time instead of calling people trolls and whining children.) If Staff didn't care, they wouldn't make this thread and explain why they're limiting navigation below a certain level, because they wouldn't care enough to explain why they're making changes. They also would have forced Message Walls on all wikis, and would have stopped adding features to Portable Infoboxes. To be honest, I don't think they should bother making threads like this. Their users will give them no respect nor time irrespective of what they do, and will just post rage post conspiracy theories.

(In addition, when you call one wiki more successful than another actually cite stats and view rates and the like instead of assuming that Fandom Wikis are always more successful unless they barely exist. Also, Unencyclopedia is extremely popular on Fandom — no other wiki has Fandom allowed this level of customisation.) Google "Fallout 4", or anything Fallout related. You'll notice which wiki always shows up, and which is rarely on the front page. If you still don't believe me, compare this with this.