Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-38517772-20201013160631/@comment-38517772-20201013184135

Fandyllic wrote: Kortooney wrote:

Perhaps you were too quick to jump to conclusions about me.

Are you saying that I apparently need to have been on Fandom for a specific amount of time, and I need to be an admin on a specific amount of wikis in order for me to have a say in all of this? What are your predictions about my "credibility", hm? Yes and your credibility is currently low in my opinion.

Kortooney wrote:

I am not, in any way, trying to compare Message Walls to UCP. Of course that's ridiculous. I'm loosely comparing the feelings people had about them when they were first introduced. Not once in my original post did I compare the actual features to each other. I simply compared the "situations". The situations are also not comparable. You compared a single, not super important feature to an entire engine and UI overhaul.

Kortooney wrote:

When did I say I was ok with UCP? I clearly stated at the end of my post that I don't really like the new editor and I preferred a lot of things in the old editor. From what I've gathered from your post, it seems as if you jumped at the first sign of the word "overhating" to come to a false conclusion about what my intents what this post were. I'm not saying that UCP is perfect. I'm not saying it has zero problems. I'm saying that the way people are reacting to it is irrational and won't help make it better in the slightest. I never said you were okay with UCP. I was just pointing out how your reasoning wasn't very compelling or convincing.

I also like how you avoided answering my questions.

I've addressed the reaction of users in other threads, but I'll repeat some of it here. What you might consider overreaction is because users probably think any underreaction might have no effect. History tells us they are probably right (history meaning the experience of FANDOM users who have been around for more than 5 years and some us more than 10).

Someone who has popped into FANDOM less than a year ago, can't possibly understand the feelings of long time users. You literally said in your reply "you're telling me you would be fine with that?" which means you suggested that I was ok with UCP.

The reason I avoided answering your questions is because I did not see them as having any significance to the discussion. Why you would base your opinion of my opinion solely on stats confuses me.

Saying that Message Walls are "not super important feature" is false. People communicate to other wiki users using their message wall/talk page. And even more, people reacted to the addition of Message Walls in the same way they reacted to UCP: leaving Fandom, being frustrated, a lot of people complaining. I agree that with UCP, there are a lot more people doing those things than with Message Walls, but saying the situations aren't comparable in one way or another simply isn't true.

Now, since you seem to keep bringing up how long I have been on Fandom, I have created my account a little more than a year ago, but that is because before that, I didn't find it necessary to create an account. If you count the times before when I was contributing to Fandom wikis, but didn't create an account yet, then you could say I've been on Fandom for 2 1/2 years. According to what you consider "credible", I'm sure you think this info proves me unreliable.

I do find it amusing that you thought I was only on Fandom for less than a year, though. Do I really sound that inexperienced? ​​​