User talk:Kirkburn

Template documentation does not go well with forumheaders
Copied the templates and forum pages from Starter in the last 24 hours. Planning to do it for other wikis. But we have a problem. See http://fisherymanagement.wikia.com/wiki/Forum:Help_test_this%3F and http://fisherymanagement.wikia.com/wiki/Forum:Here_at_last.

Forums preload into the edit boxes of new items. I'm sure you remember that, but the consequences may have escaped you until now. Forums therefore copy even a "noinclude" section, such as. So you get a documentation subpage trying to be created for every forum item.

Is it me or is it you that's done something not right?

Here's the contents of Template:Forumheader/Watercooler as copied from Starter (which hasn't been changed since):

If it's you, maybe I can suggest a solution: the preload doesn't have to pull in a template, does it? So the page it pulls in doesn't need the lovely new standard template documentation. (Sad, but hey that's only two of the dozens of Starter templates!!) Call it Project:Forumheader/Watercooler, maybe, so that nobody can complain that we have templates without proper documentation.

So Forum:Watercooler can have its relevant line simply changed from: preload=Template:Forumheader/ to preload=Project:Forumheader/

I've probably forgotten something somewhere in there. Oh, yes - Template:Forumheader will have to become Project:Forumheader and therefore need an initial colon and namespace whenever it's called up, which will be mostly in the forumheader subpages such as the above-quoted Template:Forumheader/Watercooler, which will be renamed Project:Forumheader/Watercooler and will have first line with the extra stuff but no "noinclude" and therefore look like this:

And help desk correspondingly.

Now I'm surer that I've missed something. Must be lunch-time. I expect you can find a flaw at a glance if there is one.

Cordially

— Robin Patterson (Talk) 01:42, 2 January 2009 (UTC)


 * Hey, sorry I missed this - I've removed the lines from and  for now. I don't think they absolutely require the explanation, but I'll try and check out your solution when I get a bit of extra time :)  12:51, 5 January 2009 (UTC)


 * Good man! Maybe the documentation can be added to http://starter.wikia.com/wiki/Template:Forumheader/doc. Many templates on Wikipedia (as I expect you know) share documentation if they are as intimately related as those are. That would be cleaner than changing "Forum:" to "Project:" on three or six pages. Maybe I can do it; some of my work on Starter has survived expert attention. — Robin Patterson (Talk) 21:33, 5 January 2009 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the edit, looks fair. :) 21:09, 7 January 2009 (UTC)

Bot edits
In regards to your comment about bot edits triggering notification e-mails. -- 22:29, 2 January 2009 (UTC)


 * Sounds good :) 12:53, 5 January 2009 (UTC)

admin request
hey kickburn i was hoping that i could become the admin or crat on dragonfable wiki i tried asking other staff but ...well thay havent been online for a long time ,im the only user on df wiki in my timezone but recently since a few months in any timezone if u go to that wiki im the only one in recent activity list plus if i contact the beurocrat there the guy never logs in or replies(my point:i hav no one to request) so im the only active user since around 2 weeks ,if u make me crat or admin i wont do such spelling mistakes ever ,yours hopefullyArtix -Human paladin 18:22, 14 January 2009 (UTC)


 * Hullo! I suggest visiting Adoption requests and putting your name down there (PS. It's Kirkburn with an "r" ... Don't worry, I've heard a lot of variations ;) 13:37, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

Tabbed mainpage content
Hello Kirkburn! I was wondering if you could help me out with creating tabs in the mainpage of my wikia, much like the ones in WoWwiki. I need someone's guidance in this so I chose you and hope you can help me with this one. My wikia is scienceworld Thanks for your time. Pvd 05:58, 15 January 2009 (UTC)


 * Nevermind, I think I found the way. Thanks again for your time reading this. If I experience any problem I will get back at you if you would be kind to help me in the future. Cheers! Pvd 13:35, 15 January 2009 (UTC)


 * Cool, I guess :) 13:29, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

Gears of War Fanon
Can I ask for Help on the Gears of War Fanon page please, becasue we are having trouble.

Under Control atm.

Thanks

Gunnery Sergeant   McCallan

God I hate this, But the templates dont work could you look at them please mate,

cheers,

Gunnery Sergeant   McCallan


 * Hullo! What is the issue exactly? 18:01, 16 January 2009 (UTC)


 * I can't seem to get templates working properly and get a Icon, It's hard considering the other two Bureaucrats (i'm only Admin) dont lift a finger.

I really Appreciate this

Gunnery Sergeant   McCallan


 * It seems okay here - tried it out on . 18:41, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

I have no Idea then :/. Could you help me by making the logo? (The Omen Image does fine) an also I created an Admin template and it does't show up when i do

Useless articles
Hi, can you delete all the articles created by 208.100.232.3. He created a ton of article that don't have any relevance to the Central Wikia. --Michaeldsuarez (Talk) (Deeds) 16:47, 16 January 2009 (UTC)


 * Taking a look :) 17:39, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

Conmyth can't reach RC list
Something happened on the w:c:conmyth recentChanges. We have to disable javascript to view it and some have additional problems depending on their usernames. LP (speak page) 18:06, 16 January 2009 (UTC)


 * Being looked into right at this moment by Eulalia :) 18:37, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for correcting the redirect. It seems to have been corrected but there are usernames on that pages and one of them had to edit from an IP adress because of an interwiki redirect. There are still two usernames on that pages and that means that these users get their view of the wiki changed by it. LP (speak page) 19:26, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

Moving the comment. LP (speak page) 19:45, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

Wiki dictatorship
Can you please delete w:c:conmyth:MediaWiki:Common.js. Mighty Erick is using it to prevent Mattkenn3 and Golden Eagle from logging in. --Michaeldsuarez (Talk) (Deeds) 20:47, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

Usertendo Request
Hello, Kirkburn. My name is Cobweb, founder of Usertendo ([usertendo.wikia.com]). I wish for you to demote the following users from their positions as sysop or bureacrat on my wiki plzkthx: Thanks again, and bai. Cobweb (Talk)
 * 1337Yoshi
 * BlueYoshter
 * COKEMAN11
 * KP Blue
 * Max2
 * McQueenMario

User Avatars
Hey, it's Exlonox. I was wondering if you knew how to get the new avatars and other user features (i.e. on the Watchmen Wiki) to work on the Burnout Wiki. If you could help out, that'd be great. Exlonox 17:33, 20 January 2009 (UTC)


 * Currently it comes with blogs - see w:c:help:Help:Blog articles - is that okay? 17:44, 20 January 2009 (UTC)


 * Cool. Thanks. Exlonox 23:42, 22 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Is there a way for the Burnout wiki to get this now? If not, when is the projected timeframe? (if there is one) Exlonox 00:42, 23 January 2009 (UTC)

Pikcanon-NOT needs a Bureaucrat
Hello Kirkburn! My Wiki, http://pikminfanon.wikia.com/wiki/Pikcanon-NOT, has a bit of a problem. The Wiki's creator, Rocky0718,is the only Bureaucrat there and he/she has left the wiki. He/She is the only registered Bureaucrat there and unless you can talk to him/her on another of his/her userpages somewhere on Wikia, you can never become a sysop/bureaucrat. The only way this can be solve is to make any of the Users there a Bureaucrat. Please make me a bureaucrat so we can fix this problem. I think you should make me the Bureaucrat because for the past few days I was the only one who did anything there. Also I am always on that Wiki and I am known to help people in real life. Maybe that experiance will help me decide who deserves to become a Bureaucrat/Sysop. My Userpage there is here.

Thanks and sorry if my request was an incovieneance.

Sir Pikmin


 * Please see Adoption requests. 16:05, 22 January 2009 (UTC)

Please Help!!!!
I need help starting the polaris quest line. I have gotten into a few auroran bars by

bribing the planets so i can land but it has never given me the quest.

How can i get the polaris line on this account, i have 85 million credits and don't

want to start over if i don't have to.

please e-mail your response to cardgar@hotmail.com

thanks

71.129.87.228 01:35, 23 January 2009 (UTC)

Protection templates for starter.wikia?
Those of us who copy templates from Wikipedia when there is no Wikia equivalent often copy pages that are protected or semi-protected. It would be good to have Wikia versions of the relevant templates, with "/doc" pages in our nice new standard style. I've just searched Starter and not found any. Any plans to add them?
 * http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Protection_templates lists them all, but the only two that I remember using are the "high visibility" templates:
 * http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Pp-template for full protection and
 * http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Pp-semi-protected for semi-protection

It would be good to use exactly the same names so that we don't have to change anything to use them on imported pages.

— Robin Patterson (Talk) 09:19, 23 January 2009 (UTC)


 * Good idea! I'll see what I can do - shall probably do it on templates.wikia first though :) 16:00, 23 January 2009 (UTC)


 * Thanks, pal. Er - templates.wikia?? Another treasure for me to discover, no doubt! — Robin Patterson (Talk) 23:18, 23 January 2009 (UTC)


 * Templates is a separate wiki intended to collate useful templates from across Wikia - atm mainly the starter kit templates, plus a few more. This also means they can be developed without worrying about affecting the starter kit or other wikis unnecessarily. 16:42, 26 January 2009 (UTC)


 * See http://templates.wikia.com/wiki/Template:Protected :) 21:06, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

Blog problem
When I type comment on [http://burnout.wikia.com/wiki/User_blog:The_parkster/First_Ever_Blog..._Form_Me_Anyway! this post] and click 'Post comment', what I typed gets erased from the text box and is not posted as a comment. Thought you should know. Exlonox 14:53, 25 January 2009 (UTC)

(Update) I can't comment on any posts. Exlonox 20:33, 25 January 2009 (UTC)


 * Odd - I'll pass it along. What browser/OS are you using, and do you have any special browser addons that might interfere? 16:45, 26 January 2009 (UTC)

localsettings
Hey, quick question (hopefully). Who has access to edit LocalSettings.php? Can the founder do it? Or is it limited to @Wikia guys? I'm needing to add Portal and Portal talk namespaces to Burnout wikia. Rappy talk 21:58, 25 January 2009 (UTC)


 * The Wikia tech team can do that - put in a request via Special:Contact and we can sort you out :) 16:46, 26 January 2009 (UTC)

Gran Turismo Wiki blogs...
...are incompatible with our pagetop banner. So could you move the content in the User: and User talk: namespaces to overlap it? Thanks. -- Gp 75 motorsports REV LIMITER GT-PT/GT-EN/CSW 00:27, 28 January 2009 (UTC)

Video Embed Tool
Hey, it's Creepydude from the Call of Duty Wiki. I am posting in response to your message on my talk page about the new video embed tool. First of all, the new tool is awesome, and it'll work wonders with all the gameplay videos we have in the wiki. I'll start putting the new format over the old   links right away.

I have a couple questions. I am curious, since only some wikis have gotten this announcement, which ones have? Just the big-ish wikis? Or just the big-ish gaming wikis?

Another question is, I'm wondering why you decided to contact me personally. I was quite suprised when I found that I was the only user on the wiki to recieve this message. Either way, thanks a lot, and I added an announcement. Keep up the great work; I am very happy with this feature! Respond on whatever wiki you wish. 22:33, 28 January 2009 (UTC)


 * Right on; thanks! I only have one comment/criticism to make.  If you try to put a hyperlink inside the thumb comment, it acts really funny.  For instance if I did  thumb|This is an [[example video]]  then the hyperlink inside it would mess up the video.  I am not sure if this can be fixed or not since the hyperlinks worked for images.


 * I feel special now that Call of Duty Wiki is one of the first wikis to get this feature. ;)  23:30, 28 January 2009 (UTC)


 * Ah yes, this is an known issue atm, I think. Thanks for reminding me! 23:31, 28 January 2009 (UTC)


 * Hey, I want to pester you one more time with a tiny glitch in the new video upload thing. If you go to Special:ImageList, uploaded videos appear in there and if you click on one, it puts an Image: in front of it, making it Image:Video:Example or whatever.  Do you have plans to create a special video upload log and full support for the feature, or do you plan on keeping it small?  Anyway, thanks a lot.  Bolded so the text is a little easier to pick out.   07:48, 1 February 2009 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the report, I'll pass it on. Yep, we plan to duplicate as much of the Image-related special pages as possible, so as to make maintenance simple. 15:32, 2 February 2009 (UTC)

Help?
As it seems Sannse is not available today, I was wondering if you may assist us at the RuneScape Wiki. I left a message here on Sannse's talk page about a vandal who is evading blocks by making new vandal accounts. I was wondering, if you can, could we get a checkuser and possibly ban the ip and/or ip ranges? Any assistance would be much appreciated. 17:30, 29 January 2009 (UTC)


 * I have tried an IP ban. 17:40, 29 January 2009 (UTC)


 * He is back now as "BULLSHIT234" "BULLSHIT567" "CS12". Seems he's persistent. 17:41, 29 January 2009 (UTC)


 * Second method done :) 17:51, 29 January 2009 (UTC)


 * Thank you very much! Appreciate your assistance in this matter. 17:51, 29 January 2009 (UTC)

Video Gallery?
Hiya Kirkburn, already asked this on The Vault forum, but figured I might get a quicker response going directly to you. Is there code for a video gallery, along the lines of the image gallery? We're running into a problem with too many videos on one page, some of our editors are demanding removal, others are screaming that they'll stop contributing videos if we don't display them - and I'm stuck in the middle trying to satisfy everyone. If the function doesn't already exist, it sure would be nice ;) AshRandom (Talk) 20:28, 30 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Side note: I loved your little hello template box at the top, so I stole it ;) [[Image:Ash_Nuke.jpg]] AshRandom (Talk) 21:00, 30 January 2009 (UTC)


 * Replied at http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Forum:New_video_embed_tool (and yay templates!). 15:57, 2 February 2009 (UTC)

Logo replacement challenge
Default logo is not being replaced by Wiki.png new image Some 10 hours of exploring all the helps I could fine, no solution is found yet. In new wiki of energykitesystems as admin, I uploaded new image at correct size in png and the default image of Wikia does not get replaced. Any clue? Thanks. Joe Faust 22:24, 1 February 2009 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the report - it's been passed on and is being looked into. 15:49, 2 February 2009 (UTC)


 * Thanks. Someone told: matter was Wikia wide. Also, someone today did something to have the logo image replace the default. Joe Faust 20:51, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

Adding an inactive template
I was wondering if you can add an inactive wiki template to the Midkemia wiki. After I have a chance to make some edits on it, I'll file an adoption request, but if someone else interested would like to adopt, then I wouldn't mind.--Iner22 17:48, 3 February 2009 (UTC)


 * Done. 17:54, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

advice please...
Hello Im new to wikia and Im thinking about making a wikia about an anime/manga series, any advice? BR Ninja15 18:49, 3 February 2009 (UTC)


 * I'm not sure what specifics you may want, but if you visit the Requests Wikia and Wikia Help you may find stuff that helps. 19:05, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

Hidden 'by default'?
I sometimes use IPA symbols in text, but I have to copy-paste them because ,although being in w:c:conmyth:MediaWiki:Edittools, they are hidden by default and editing this page does not solve it (I might be editing it wrong, but I cannot see what is intended to be done to show them). Do you know how to correct it or who can correct it? Lars (Poet) (speak page) 21:30, 3 February 2009 (UTC)


 * The more advanced symbols are hidden by the "<! --" and "-- >" (without the spaces) comment markers. Remove those from your w:c:conmyth:MediaWiki:Edittools, and they should show up. 22:12, 3 February 2009 (UTC)


 * Thank you, I just thought that it had to do with the CSS settings, as it is such a visible change, I will ask other administrators what they think about making it visible, but I think that they will find it OK to change it, users would still be able to made their CSS settings to hide it. I have even seen a user CSS subpage for User:217.77.165.53 on wikia help, so IPs are also able to enable or disable that (I will enable it by default, as I have no idea how javascript controls what to show and what to hide on wikipedia). Lars (Poet) (speak page) 15:56, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

Admin
Please promote me to admin on the Unbionicle wiki. The only admin there has been gone for 4 months and there are some vandals around ,so I need the ability to block! Please respond as quickly as possible!Andrew1219


 * Hello - I have to suggest requesting via Wiki adoption requests. It doesn't appear to be under current attack, so I would not wish to bypass that procedure. 17:59, 5 February 2009 (UTC)

Sevler425 18:06, 3 June 2009 (UTC)I have a request on the Legend of Dragoon Wiki, and thats to remove the two inactive beurocrats from that title, one is cubix(part of the name), and the other is Rufus Shinra4245, I recently adopted the site but this way they cant come on and like ban me for whatever and as for Shinra, well he hasn't done much so I wanna have himaas an admin but not beurocrat. I have someone helping me, and hes actively doing so, so plz if you could remove there beurocratic positions.

What links to a page from w:c:conmyth:Monaco-sidebar
Hello again, Kirkburn.Is there somehow we can see links from pages like mediaWiki:Monaco-sidebar from Special:WhatLinksHere? On w:c:conmyth I had to remove a huge amount of references from w:c:conmyth:MediaWiki:Monaco-sidebar after another administrator had deleted the pages. I know that they are references rather than links, but they are transformed into links when using it. Lars (Poet) (speak page) 20:12, 5 February 2009 (UTC)


 * Unfortunately I don't know of a way of achieving that, sorry :( 20:14, 5 February 2009 (UTC)


 * Then, I will leave the question in a forum, just in case anyone knows. Lars (Poet) (speak page) 20:45, 5 February 2009 (UTC)

Spam
Ok, I returned to WikiTubia but I've just found the wiki drowning with spam (look on the history of the page "YouTube Poop" and you'll sorta see what I mean). Is there a way to protect the whole wiki? --YOWUZA TALK 2 ME! 17:12, 7 February 2009 (UTC)


 * See user talk page. 15:04, 9 February 2009 (UTC)

Tekken Wiki tables and templates
Hey, I'm over from the Tekken Wiki. I'm just wondering how to make disambiguation page templates (Jack would need one, as would the search Kazama) and how to go about making a table template for adding additional information to the pages. Any help in this would be great as the Wiki seems pretty dead and unorganised. PkmnTrainerJ 17:56, 8 February 2009 (UTC)


 * It sounds like templates.wikia may be of use to you. 15:06, 9 February 2009 (UTC)

CreatePage
Hi Kirkburn, I see these a 'hidden function' to generate new pages to a pre determined template, for consistency. I was looking at the Marvel Database Wiki which as a similar idea as im after trying to standardise the outline pages for articles at Tractor Wiki. My general layout follows the WP page layout as early pages were from WP as a starting point. But had a problem with WP infoboxes not working (get loads of HTMl code showing so ditched them from some pages at first). I then imported a load of WP templates but suffer some incompatibility with hem but getting sorted (I think)). (didnt know wikia has some available). - Wikipedias navbox suite being a problem on import. (the nested nature of the doc and interconedted examples causing red template links).

Have now come to the conclusion standardizing the basic pages has several advantages;
 * consistency, as i end up with slightly different headings / content on different sessions, etc.
 * reduce finger wear (RSI)
 * Get more pages created
 * Make it easier for beginners (possibly to start pages)

So is it easy to enable this Function, could not really see it at the example wiki given (found the CreateTemplates pages) but didn't see the interface mentioned on the front page ?

Dont want to create empty stubs en mass as such, just /sub pages for the red links were i have a bit of Content/ or an image (as some high level pages getting too full of images). Also need to Add back info boxes to early pages. All the company pages need one (about 250 +).

I started trying to adapt the Documentation page to generate a Preload blank gallery page but found that the sub pages are only allowed in some Name spaces & not the main !! And Template:Documentation is really a Page in a page in another page (the template being documented). So unraveling the codes not working, as getting the bits right and If statements confused me.

So any suggestions ?

Also The Marvel Datebase has a neat category hierarchy function at the bottom I.e Marvel Datebase - Administration - Tools - Templates. (PeterParker doesent know how that works, I asked) Thats how I found this create page looking at a Media wiki extensions list. Do you know how that Category horizontal list is implemented, is it part of the interface ? - BulldozerD11 17:29, 9 February 2009 (UTC)


 * Hi Kirburn would be great full if you can help sort out this creating new pages useing templates. From a query on the forum I found this page Help:CreatePage and have tried it on Tractor Wiki but it does not appear to work (Special:CreatePage) gives a blank new style page edit box but no list of pages. Re reading the help page appears to say its only works on newer wikis ? Does it need enabling on my wiki ?


 * I've had also tried to implement the create a new page function from Marvel database, which is under development here and add a button to access it through the Createbar. But canot get the Button to load the menu page.  (the underlying templates complexity with if tests etc was confusing me but the basic working behind it I've now worked out and a couple of the options work.) I need to make it accessible by placing a button on pages, which the create bar appeared to do. (the other buttons work but the link to this does not ! ) ? Can you please assist - BulldozerD11 22:23, 9 March 2009 (UTC)

Bully Wikia and copyright problems
Hey Kirkburn. I'm McJeff, one of two bureaucrats from Bully Wiki, and I'm concerned that the wikia is pushing the limits of the fair use policy on text.

The issue is that Bully has many characters, and each character has its own article, and each article has a list of quotes from each character. In most cases the quotes are limited to 20. Now I think this is already stretching fair use policy on text to the breaking point, but my co-bureaucrat wants to extend the limit to 30.

I'm very uneasy about that since again I think it's a Fair Use violation, but I've been told in varying ways by the other users there that they "don't like" the Fair Use policy and don't care to obey it. So, I have to ask here. I don't know if you're the person who deals with copyright issues - I have trouble finding my way around Wikia central. So if you can't help yourself, I was hoping you could at least direct me to someone/something that could.

I've been referring to Wikipedia's fair use policy on text for this. McJeff 18:39, 19 February 2009 (UTC)


 * Taken this somewhere else noticing that you're on vacation. McJeff 18:52, 19 February 2009 (UTC)

Age of Empires
Please see http://ageofempires.wikia.com/wiki/User_talk:Kirkburn — Robin Patterson (Talk) 03:41, 21 February 2009 (UTC)

a question of annoyance...
... no matter what i do and how many times I save it and wait it wont work, the monaco thing on your story wiki. --2+2 11:29, 21 February 2009 (UTC)


 * Have you been able to resolve this issue? I'm not sure exactly what the problem is. 00:54, 26 February 2009 (UTC)

Sysop resignation?
Just wondering, is there a way for sysops to resign or bureaucrats to demote them, or do wikia staff have to address matters of that sort? When you get to responding, can you message me on my talk page? Thanks. Exlonox 00:29, 25 February 2009 (UTC)


 * Replied at User talk:Exlonox. -- 16:47, 25 February 2009 (UTC)

on the your story wiki
I keep customizing the monaco skin stuff but nothing happens. please help!--2+2 18:19, 8 March 2009 (UTC)


 * You need to go into your preferences and select the custom skin as your (and the wiki's) default skin. -- 19:05, 8 March 2009 (UTC)

Gearsofwar Fanon
Yes, There has been a Crat asking for help, but I ask you, Can you remove a Crat who, despite creating most of our templates, has been Verbally Assualting Other Memebers through the means of IRC and Skype.

Yours, Love is Noise   Love is Pain  Love is these blues  20:12, 8 March 2009 (UTC)


 * Who? 18:07, 9 March 2009 (UTC)


 * This is hardly relavent. Seeing as I didn't have get the wiki going,I asked and Begged Jaws for her to get help. When she didn't Or the when the other 'Crat didn't help I stepped up to the plate and asked for help. So if anything, I'm more deserving of my power. She also has been abusing her powers; for example she banned me after helping a  user. And I created the IRC Channel and she also abused her power. And finally, how does skype pertain to the Wiki?  SPARTAN-  G0  24  20:40, 9 March 2009 (UTC)

I'd like to vouch for Josh here. He's done nearly all the work getting the wiki off the ground, and he was the one who contacted people when he hit a snag. Jaws has done almost nothing to improve the wiki despite being a 'crat. Also, 'Verbally assaulting' is a loaded phrase, at worst he's been teasing people a little too harshly and all that's deserved is an apology.

I'm honestly disappointed that you seem to be de-admining him without actually seeing both sides of the argument. What happened to good faith? Screennameless -  "Goodnight, everybody!"  20:45, 9 March 2009 (UTC)


 * Hey, I just asked "who?" :P I didn't mean to appear like I was going to do something without finding out more. At any rate, it sounds like something far too controversial for me to take any action - I can offer advice, of course, but for that I'd suggesting pointing me to somewhere on the wiki. 21:36, 9 March 2009 (UTC)


 * (shakes head) Sorry about that. It just seemed to me like you were going, "Okay, who am I de-admining?" Which, I see now, was stupid on my part.  Again, sorry. (laughs) If you want a quick summary, they're mad at each other because Josh feels like the other bureaucrats aren't pulling their weight and because Jaws feels that Josh is abusing his bureaucrat powers.  Both arguments have merit.


 * Josh was especially frustrated that Jaws hadn't done much on the wiki and neither had the other bureaucrat, Zen. Basically, Josh felt like he was doing everything, which isn't that far off. So whenever they tried to assert authority over him as founders of the wiki, he'd get annoyed and lash out at them in what he viewed as just retaliation. Meanwhile, Jaws felt like he was attacking other people unjustly. So she would fight back in what she viewed as just retaliation. Cue vicious circle.


 * I, among other people, can vouch for Josh about having done most of the wiki's construction on his own. And what he couldn't do, other people did at his request and coordination (most of these have been archived now, as on User:EightyOne's talk page on Gearspedia).  And I know I'd be frustrated if I spent basically two weeks trying to create a wiki without the help of the other bureaucrats.  But I do agree that he can get pretty nasty to Jaws and Zen, most of the evidence of this occurring in IRC, which I have no records of. I also know that his idea of joking around (ex. kicking someone out of IRC for a silly reason) could be misinterpreted. For instance, in the block log you may notice I was once banned for two minutes for "slapping (Josh) on Skype".  I found this hilarious.  Other people probably think this is admin abuse.


 * Jaws has also now told us that she had real life issues that pulled her away from the wiki, which I believe completely. However, I had no knowledge of this until literally yesterday, and from what I've been told by both parties, Josh had only cursory knowledge of it after the wiki was already created.


 * The truth is, I'm very frustrated because Josh is my friend and I don't want to seem like I'm just taking his side. I really like Gears Fanon and I hope to see it grow into a real community. I'm just completely lost on what to do.  But I definitely don't think removing Josh's admin privileges is fair to him considering the effort and time he's put in there.


 * Again, I'm sorry I jumped to conclusions... and I'm sorry that became really long. I don't know how that happened. Trying to be thorough, I guess. :P  Screennameless  -  "Goodnight, everybody!"  00:39, 10 March 2009 (UTC)

Adverts
If you visit http://heroeswiki.com/Main_Page you will see adverts on the top. How do I add Google adverts on my wiki. Something to do with monobook.php, where do I add the code. Xxxsacheinxxx 22:15, 16 March 2009 (UTC)

To put adverts on the side
If you read this: http://www.how2setup.org/en/wiki/index.php?title=Google_AdSense_in_Wiki#Register_with_Google_Sitemaps it says what to do but I don't what line to put it. Can you help me. Thanks Xxxsacheinxxx 22:15, 16 March 2009 (UTC)

Holding still for Blip.TV for video embeds
Love the expansion of the video embed.

Lingering question: What about an embed of the videos from Blip.TV? 
 * http://Rauterkus.blip.tv is my site at Blip.TV.

And a new question: What about the embed of videos from Viddler.com?  Rauterkus 13:07, 20 March 2009 (UTC)
 * http://Viddler.com/rauterkus is my site at Viddler.


 * Blip.tv is still on our list to be added, and I've added Viddler. Unfortunately, I don't have an ETA, but keep your fingers crossed :) 23:22, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

Adoption question
Hey Kirkburn, when a wiki can be considerate for adoption i have seen a couple of wikis quite dead, but dont know if there is a establish time frame of inactivity where the wiki can them be considerate a candidate for adoption, and then do i have to add it to an adoption list or with just marking it at the page here at central? --


 * From Adoption requests, it appears to be about two months. I suggest using that page for any requests, or Special:Contact. 11:32, 26 March 2009 (UTC)

Need a guru
Hiya Kirkburn, are you a HTML/CSS guru or familiar with browser quirks (especially Internet Explorer)? (or maybe you can direct me to someone?) I recently updated the homepage of our wiki and been de-bugging for hours for darn IE7 and IE6 browsers (why can't they behave?). Anyway I was wondering if it's my code or maybe certain ads that cause this: screenshot link? Can you replicate that on your end? Here is the current version. The prior version of the page was fine for the Internet Explorer browsers, but with my move of the todo box, I think the page doesn't render for IE correctly (other browsers are fine). :( &mdash; JeiaraTalk 07:53, 26 March 2009 (UTC)


 * Responded on your local talk page :) 11:55, 26 March 2009 (UTC)

Moonglade wiki
Was Wondering if you would help set up a Template theme for the Moonglade RP Wiki? Its Horribly under-used. but if it had a nice face to it and was easy to use, theres no reason it cant get Epic. --Kingstoph 09:39, 27 March 2009 (UTC)

MediaWiki:EditingTips
In my own wiki, Adventure Quest Worlds Wiki, the editing tips box is too small, I've had to remove a lot of information from there, is there anyway of extending it, or even adding subheadings to the headings already there? GreennaveTalk 06:24, 30 March 2009 (UTC)


 * Not as far as I know, unfortunately. It was designed to quite simple, so unfortunately doesn't have support for longer length or special headings. Are you able to make the text smaller perhaps? 07:41, 30 March 2009 (UTC)

A little suggestion for the WoW wiki
Regarding the "Quests at *insert level here*" pages:

These would be infinitely more useful if each quest was "icon'd" with either Alliance, Horde, or both. This would immediately assist people with finding relevant level quests which are in their faction.

72.173.112.5 00:35, 5 April 2009 (UTC)


 * You mean articles like http://www.wowwiki.com/Category:Quests_at_57 ? Unfortunately, it's a restriction of the software that prevents us from being able to put icon labels on those :( 12:56, 6 April 2009 (UTC)

Custom Monaco theme not working
In the Pokemon Crater Wiki I copied the example monaco theme given on this page in section 'Customize the Colors'- Custom color customization on w:c:help:Help:Customizing_Monaco, and went to admin options in my preferences to select custom. It worked. Then I changed the colours as you can see on this page- MediaWiki:Monaco.css. The theme didnt change automatically so I went back to admin options selected Sapphire, saved it and then again selected Custom and saved it. but the new colours I specified in the Monaco.css page still do not show. Insteed, the old example theme from the section on the Help:Customizing_Monaco I mentioned erlier appears. Why is this happening and how can I correct it? I have now kept the theme as Brick theme as ot matches to the colour scheme needed for the wiki but its not close enough. I had put this message on the Help:Customizing_Monaco's Talk page but no one responded so I thoungt of asking a staff. Can you help me?--Deshkap 2006 16:44, 6 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Responded/fixed locally :) 16:58, 6 April 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for that.

Need to revoke sysop status
Hi, this is Spike's Girl from the ThatGuyWithTheGlasses wiki. Recently, it has come to the attention of myself and my staff that one of our newest admins has lied to us about his age. We've been in contact with this person through Skype, and recently discovered that, while he initially had sworn to us that he was 18, he is actually only 8 years old. While we haven't had any abuse problems with him, no one on staff is comfortable with having someone so young having such an important status.

If you could remove his Sysop status, that would be greatly appreciated. Thank you. --Spike's Girl (TGWTG wiki)

Not listed on Wikia Staff
How come your name isn't mentioned on Wikia Staff. I guess because you're not on the Community Team? -- Fandyllic  (talk &middot; contr) 12:00 PM PST 10 Apr 2009


 * Basically, yeah. I'm mostly in product, though I work on a fair few community and gaming related matters. 19:03, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

no plan
Hallo there Kirkburn,

i found you entry on my wiki or what ever i should call it... and yes i need your help very much... I wana make a Wiki about our game project and there for i have to make a Pokedex with many charts and other stuff like on this page: http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Bulbasaur_(Pok%C3%A9mon) And really nothing is working, i am no programmer but i wana make this page.. so i need help or somebody can creat me a blanko page i only wold have to copy or fill in... this page makes me little bit sick because i wastet now more then 48 hours on this and nothing came out...

Thank you...

Greetings: GaiasInk!^^


 * Where is this? I'm not really able to help out a lot, so the forums may be a better place to ask for help. 12:21, 14 April 2009 (UTC)


 * I believe the wikia is w:c:gaias-ink-projects. GaiasInk, I can probably help a little bit. I will leave you a message on your talk page on your wiki. -- Fandyllic  (talk &middot; contr) 5:41 PM PST 14 Apr 2009

Fallout wiki IRC channel
Hey, i was wondering what was happening with the fallout wiki's IRC channel. It was on, then disapeared. I signed in to my account on Wikia, and returned to the Fallout wiki's main page (which is where the IRC link is) and it wasn't there. Can someone please tell me what is going on? Thanks.


 * I'm sorry, I don't know - I don't have any connection to it. Ausir on the fallout wiki is more likely to know. 10:54, 14 April 2009 (UTC)

ListUsers
Hello Kirkburn. As you can see on Image:ListNoUsers.png or on w:c:dragonrp:Special:ListUsers, something is wrong on that specialpage, there are at least a bot (a staff member whomade cleanup of hundreds of identical pages, so there is also at least one staff member to be listed on the page), a sysop, a bureaucrat and a user there. The problem also affect another wiki with 4 sysops and I do not understand how it cannot affect this one. What is wrong? Lars (Poet) (speak) 17:49, 14 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Yeah, this just came up internally - we'll look into it. It's rather odd that it affects specific wikis, though. 18:26, 14 April 2009 (UTC)

Suppress Redirect
I am an administrator on several wikis and I would like to know how to use suppressredirect when moving pages to prevent a redirect from being created. Do you know how to do this? Thanks. GT5162 (talk) 16:04, 22 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Unfortunately I do not know - I suggest trying Special:Contact. 16:27, 22 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the reply. GT5162 (talk) 16:47, 22 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Sorry I know this is an old question, but I've just figured out the answer. If you are a sysop, when you move a page you get a tickbox with the option to "Leave a redirect behind" - unticking this suppresses a redirect. If you are not a sysop, you don't get that option, and the redirect is always created (to avoid pages going missing). Gboyers talk 13:27, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

Spam filter Problem
It seems that there are problems of spam filter in EVCHK. Now we cannot edit any pages, even sysop could not.

It just shows that "The page you wanted to save was blocked by the spam filter. This is probably caused by a link to a blacklisted external site. "

--疾風綾希 12:37, 23 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Check c:evchk:MediaWiki:Spam-blacklist or c:evchk:MediaWiki:Spam-whitelist. Perhaps it will help you figure out why you're getting this problem. It looks like your whitelist might need a few entries (maybe evchk.wikia.com?) that are missing. Also use c:evchk:Special:Contact to report your problem. -- Fandyllic  (talk &middot; contr) 3:35 PM PST 30 Apr 2009

Wanna edit the Featured Users section in my wiki, but...
...I'm having a lot of trouble trying to do so... how am I going to work this into monaco? Would appreciate any help concerning this. -- Goketsuji Fan 01:41, 26 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Where exactly do you mean? Which wiki, and on the sidebar, main page elsewhere? 14:04, 27 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Here, and yeah, in the sidebar. - Goketsuji Fan 08:02, 30 April 2009 (UTC)


 * If you check http://powerinstinct.wikia.com/wiki/MediaWiki:Monaco-sidebar you'll see it's automatically generated from the "top users". As the list is automatically generated, you can't edit it directly - however, you could just edit the sidebar with different links and more names. You can read more about the sidebar on Help:Sidebar. Hope that helps! 13:31, 30 April 2009 (UTC)

Visual Editor Bug Report
Read Forum:New_Visual_Editor:_Problems_and_Suggestions. Check to see why this bug occurs.-- Ronga 02:07, 1 May 2009 (UTC)

From User:LilyTheAngel
Please, no more to do with e-mail on My World Wikia! I've had to warn User:Avater! —This unsigned comment is by LilyTheAngel (talk • contribs). Please sign your posts with !


 * The email link on my user page is to built-in MediaWiki functionality - I won't be removing it, as I am a Wikia Staff member. You are free to remove my user page from your wiki if you so wish. 12:26, 5 May 2009 (UTC)


 * This user says that you must be 8 years or older to create an account on her "Rules of Wikia". When Uberfuzzy changed it to 13, she changed it back and protected the page. Please can you have a look. (From this user's behaviour, I doubt that she is over 13). GT5162 (talk) 15:05, 5 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Switched back to 13, with a link to http://www.wikia.com/wiki/Wikia:Terms_of_use#Membership - thanks. 15:14, 5 May 2009 (UTC)
 * I have to agree with GT5162, I doubt she herself is 13, and I don't know why she even has a wikia with only 8 pages about some anime. And she appears to be the only editor, and running a communist environment, no offence to her.  λ T 15:15, 5 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Also, she created the user pages of "HeroLimeLiam", "CoolGuyAnthon" and "CuteBoyTom", whose usernames aren't even registered. It is extremely unlikely that a 13-year old would bring imaginary friends onto Wikia so I'm not sure whether this user should be allowed to edit here. GT5162 (talk) 15:33, 5 May 2009 (UTC)


 * I'll flag it up with others in Wikia. 15:36, 5 May 2009 (UTC)

WoWWiki redirects
I just noticed Forum:Changes to the Create Wiki process, so I was wondering if you could put a dump of all the known *.wikia.com redirects to WoWWiki.com somewhere on WoWWiki (maybe at c:wow:WoWWiki:Wikia subdomain redirects), in case people might have ideas for subdomains we should try to capture before the new Wikia creation thing gets too out of hand. I suspect we won't need to suggest many new ones as many I tested were already redirecting. -- Fandyllic  (talk &middot; contr) 3:04 PM PST 6 May 2009


 * Done on the suggested page :) A bunch were done a fair while ago, I added some more recently. 22:50, 6 May 2009 (UTC)

Hi, I need help.
With user badges: how do you put one on from another wiki? the "way" to do so on Preferences isn't working. Any advice?--Bionicleboy3000 (but call me Akamia)21:33, 10 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Hi Bionicleboy! Are you using  ? It should work using that syntax, using the correct url of your wiki. -- 21:42, 10 May 2009 (UTC)


 * I tried that, and I got the one from the wiki I have instead of the wiki I was trying to get it from. I used that syntax on my wiki, the Shadow Spy Net, with the badge supposed to be from Sonic News Network, but I got my Shadow Spy Net badge instead! Personally, I think the system is a bit... buggy, but that is just an opinion... HELP!--Bionicleboy3000 23:57, 10 May 2009 (UTC)


 * I'll ask about it, see what's going on. 13:04, 11 May 2009 (UTC)

Poetry Wikia Question
Hello, my name is Kyle Hardin (Specter), and I am an administrator on Poetry Wikia. I was wondering if you could answer a quick question.

Is there a way to alter the code of a create-article-box so that any page created with it will automatically include itself in a specified category? Let's say I have a createbox that is only meant to be used to create new articles about poetry. I would like all new poems to automatically be placed in the "Catalog" category, for easy searching. Can I set up the createbox so that all articles created with it include the   tag?

thank you for your time,

~Specter (cow_pi) 17:52, 12 May 2009 (UTC)

Thank you
Sevler425 18:19, 21 May 2009 (UTC)Thanks so very much for the help on the Legend of Dragoon wikia, I was actually wondering how would I go about getting admin for this site, I am usually the only one on and the one making all the edits.

Sevler425 18:32, 21 May 2009 (UTC) ok thanks for all the help again and hope that all goes well with the adoption process. I found out what to do so thanks again.

Sevler425 20:57, 21 May 2009 (UTC)Ok so this guy has destroyed the Legend of Dragoon site once again, he just jumped to a different computer,what should i do?

RE:Welcome tool and images
Example here :. I deleted the file because it was not accurate for our wiki but you could see the image displayed on the page instead of seeing "Fichier:Sobek1.png". As I said the : was missing, it should have been Fichier:Sobek1.png to have the link. 20:33, 21 May 2009 (UTC)


 * It appears to have been missing from the local MediaWiki messages - I've added them to your anon and user talk page messages, which should fix the issue :) 20:39, 21 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Lol, simple and quick answer ! Thanks for the help. I would never have thought about that :p  20:51, 21 May 2009 (UTC)

This is rediculious
Sevler425 21:25, 21 May 2009 (UTC) Ok I am again having problems with the same vandal on the Legend of Dragoon wikia, Joseph keeps changing computers so he can change his ip... please help I'm waiting on the adoption for the site to go through but he has completly emptied the site...


 * Makes me sad :( I've reverted/blocked again. One thing I recommend is, don't give them the pleasure of seeing you angry. 21:30, 21 May 2009 (UTC)

Setting default skin
Could you please change the default skin of my wiki, to monobook? KingAbra


 * Unfortunately Monobook isn't able to be set to a side-wide default, only as a user preference. You can read this page for info on why. For the relavent help page on choosing a default skin, you can check out this page. -- 18:32, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

ConanWiki
Hey!

My name is Dan, and I'm the admin of ConanWiki. Since Conan O'Brien is starting to host The Tonight Show this upcoming Monday, I was wondering if there was any way you could publish this wiki under "New Wikis" - mainly to catch users' attentions, as I cannot build this wiki all by myself.

Thanks in advance, 19:37, 28 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Hullo! I suggest sending a note to Special:Contact to let us know. 16:34, 29 May 2009 (UTC)

I know how to reproduce one of the bugs now
Read this How to reproduce the link switching bugs. Give me some feedback, thanks a lot! --MyBrute Resource Center@Ronga 05:09, 30 May 2009 (UTC)

Bot flag
Hi, I have a bot account (User:SUL Bot), which runs pywikipediabot software, that can be used for fixing double redirects from page moves. User:Charibot used to do this, but Charitwo hasn't run the bot recently and all of the double redirects on this wiki have had to be fixed manually. I have tested the bot on admintools.wikia.com, where it has a bot flag (For an example of how the bot works, please see ), and I was wondering if it would be possible to give it a bot flag on Central Wikia? Thanks. SUL 21:01, 7 June 2009 (UTC)


 * I am not strongly involved with user rights on Central Wikia, so I suggest asking Sannse instead. :) 16:00, 8 June 2009 (UTC)


 * I saw that you gave a bot flag to Charibot on Central Wikia, and the tasks that User:SUL Bot performs are very similar to User:Charibot because they both run the same scripts. I have noticed that Sannse hasn't edited for a few days. Is there anyone else that I can ask? Thanks. SUL 16:38, 8 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Hi SUL, Charibot is still good for this task. :) Thanks for worrying bout him, I'll remind him to send a card! -- 16:42, 8 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Sannse is certainly around, regardless of her edits - I suggest her as she's much more familiar with how Central Wikia administration works than myself. It's nothing against your bot, but the case for Charitwo was just because I know him quite well from around Wikia (and he's used his bot on wikis which I am strongly familiar with). 16:48, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

Revision history colours
Hi, a user on the Mass Effect Wiki developed some CSS to change the text on the new 'display changes' format (the white text on a pale background makes it too difficult to read). See the discussion here. Could you please make the changes? I don't want to mess up the Monaco skin by mistake. --Tullis 14:43, 11 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Responded at the local discussion - thanks for bringing it up. 14:55, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

Microsoft + Windows Wikias
Hey George. Micropedia (windows.wikia.com), the Microsoft Wiki (microsoft.wikia.com) and the Windows 7 Wiki (windows7.wikia.com)seem to be serving the same purpose here. To avoid duplicating efforts, could and should these be combined? Two of those appear to be pretty much dormant, and the third is currently small and quiet, so now might be a good time to do that. Also I work with an ex-Microsoft employee on an old dormant external wiki with the same content (mswiki.com), so perhaps that could be integrated too? This is a very useful subject area, so it would be nice to kick-start the collaboration on this. Let me know what you think - Gboyers talk 21:58, 13 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Sounds like it could be possible - however, I recommend asking about this via Special:Contact. If the other wikis are pretty much dead, and don't have active admins, I think it should be feasible. 14:57, 15 June 2009 (UTC)

I've spoken to the relevant people (founder & active admins), and they are in support of this. How should we proceed? Gboyers talk 20:12, 28 June 2009 (UTC)


 * I can still only suggest Special:Contact, it's not something I've experience in :) 14:05, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

"personal" Wikis?
Hello Kirkburn

I quick question - Can I request a new wiki for a personal writing project, or is that not within the scope of the sort of wikis you provide? Thanks in advance :) Zeraktalk 18:10, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
 * No, those usually won't be granted, unless it's something along the lines of The Tiny Guide to Wikis and Wikipedia, which is a how-to guide where anyone can contribute. -- Gp 75 motorsports REV LIMITER GT-PT/GT-EN/CSW 11:07, 16 June 2009 (UTC)


 * We recently made changes to our wiki creation process - Forum:Changes to the Create Wiki process. The kind of wiki you describe are still somewhat on the fringes, but we'd still prefer multiple user wikis. 17:03, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

Blacklisting IPs
How do you blacklist a range of IPs? -- Gp 75 motorsports REV LIMITER GT-PT/GT-EN/CSW 11:04, 16 June 2009 (UTC)


 * I think it is possible, but why would you wish to do this? 16:51, 16 June 2009 (UTC)


 * A range of them has been vandalizing GT-EN. I want to blacklist them to avoid more vandalism. -- Gp 75 motorsports REV LIMITER GT-PT/GT-EN/CSW 19:20, 16 June 2009 (UTC)


 * None of the IPs in Recent Changes are in the same range, so there would be no reason to do that. SUL 20:43, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

But when one pops up, I can blacklist them. Is there a page for it? -- Gp 75 motorsports REV LIMITER GT-PT/GT-EN/CSW 10:47, 17 June 2009 (UTC)


 * No, I don't think it's available. I believe only staff can block a range of IPs. --MyBrute Resource Center@Ronga 17:41, 18 June 2009 (UTC)


 * It is possible for any administrator to block a range of IPs; however, rangeblocks can affect many users and should be avoided when possible. See for an example of a rangeblock. SUL 17:09, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

Visual editors - new bugs filed
I have filed 3 reports, reporting about 5 bugs today. Check here.

By the way visual editors can do much more than just a newbie editor. Advanced users can benefit from it too. Table is a god example. It's easier to type information on a particular cell in a visual editor than when you are in source mode. It's difficult to locate to that particular cell in a quick way in source mode. Even if you are familiar with wikitable, the visual editor makes your job easier. If you want to delete a column or change the formatting of a column or row, visual editor does it much faster than doing it yourself via source mode. They are some reasons why visual editors don't need to limit themselves to newbies only.

I don't turn off the visual editor when I'm blogging. The blogging editor allows me to quickly insert some codes, which I would spend more time otherwise if I type myself. I don't need to toggle just to type some codes which are not available on the toolbar. The interface is still nicer to work with because the effect will be rendered immediately. --MyBrute Resource Center@Ronga 17:41, 18 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Thanks very much, both for the bug reports and the general feedback :) 13:07, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

Declarin War
Hi I am new at playing Galactic Civ 2 Dread Lords ... and I am trying to find out about how to declare war if you could please send me a hint I would gladly Appreciate it Tonyknight 23:50, 19 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Unfortunately, I do not know - I have yet to play that game! 13:21, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

Catselect- again
You are aware of the issue with a newline prior to the noinclude block that the new editor introduces to protect category declarations at the end of the article (aka Categoryselect). Is this a nofix? If so, how about a workaround feature such as hinting categoryselect that it is ok to omit the newline?.

I have no idea how the arcanery of wikia bugzilla process works, or I would do it myself. Thanks. - ~  Ph l o x  18:20, 27 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Disregard inquiry. But for your info- if someone else asks about this, tell them to stick the category declaration(s) in a template so the new editor won't muck with them.  This workaround may be suitable in many cases.  It was in familypedia's case.  - 22:23, 28 June 2009 (UTC)

Default interface language and bug
Well, whlie EVCHK updates to MediaWiki 1.14, there are a few problems.

The "language" of links had been changed to simplified Chinese, such as changing Special:Preferences to Special:参数设置. Even changed Language setting in my preferences, the "language" still stucks on S.Chinese. How to change it back to English, for easy input in pages?

EVCHK is just a traditional Chinese site introducing web culture of Hong Kong. Also, there is no any plan to make it inherently multilingual. But, it is too diffical to force the default interface language for all users or made interfaces synchronization with zh- perfix languages. Are there any ways for that?

Bug:The links of Unused categories and Unused templates are both directed to Unused templates Special pages on EVCHK. Please fix that.

--疾風綾希 15:18, 28 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Have you tried Special:Contact? As for the bug you mention, they both appear to the right places here. 16:04, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

New editor- load times high for templates with large numbers of parameters
Genealogy has very fine grained information that we are using semantic forms to encode. For example, a contributor could specify the month and day of the departure date of a migration of an individual, including geographic coordinates, notes, sources, people associated with the relocation etc.

Problem- for its form capability, the new WYSIWYG editor appears to scan templates to identify parameters to offer to the user for editing. Our pages typically use templates that can have many hundreds of unique parameters. This is a simpler article that uses templates that have maybe 80 or so unique parameters. After pressing "edit", it requires 15-20 seconds for this article to be loaded into the new editor. Other articles using new generation templates with more comprehensive lists predictably take much longer. This article requires 30 to 45 seconds to load into the new editor. The ironic thing is that the effort is totally wasted because we advise our users to employ semantic forms rather than the new editor's forms because our forms have data entry controls, support for specific data types like dates, are more compact/ logically layed out/ quicker to edit with hideable sections etc.

Question/feature request: Is there some sort of magic word to abort this time consuming operation? If not, how long do you estimate before there would be some sort of fix/ workaround for this issue? For example, I am wondering if the editor recognized a magic word in the templates so that it would halt its scan for parameters. This will address the severe performance issue, but any other remedy would be welcome (even a site wide abort of template scanning). Until then, we have a blocking issue with the new editor, and we really really need the new editor because we expect that many of our prospective contributors will be those uncomfortable with wikitext.

I realize I don't make simple requests and thank you in advance for your assistance.

BTW- The workaround I described about newlines being introduced prior to noincludes protecting category declarations works just fine for our wikia. I have an awb bot run converted the several thousand pages affected, so nothing needs to be done on our account.

18:12, 3 July 2009 (UTC)


 * You can use __NOWYSIWYG__ to prevent the new editor being used on certain pages. I asked about speed increases, and unfortunately it appears unlikely that large ones that affect this area will occur in the near future. This could change, but at the moment the magic word may be your best option. 14:03, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
 * There is another option. It is imperative we offer the new editor, so blocking it is a non starter.  BTW- I'm not sure they really can make it faster.  I just want an "Off-switch" for the prescan/ template form feature.  If they can't/won't provide, then I shall be forced to split the articles so that the semantic forms templates that the new editor takes so much time on are on a different page.  This is really an ugly solution but it is better than your solution of no WYSIWYG at all.  It will be especially ugly if we are forced to do automated uploads of tens of thousands of articles into this split format.


 * I need a definitive answer on this as it shall involve a LOT of work. You are staff, right?  So is the final word?  Or should I send an inquiry via the contact staff thing?
 * Oh- one other question. If I got the source for this WYSIWYG thing and hacked it for our use, then could I get the custom version enabled for just our wiki?  17:25, 6 July 2009 (UTC)

OK good news. Disregard the inquiry. Mendel on IRC suggested something that works. The time was getting sucked up in rendering the troublesome templates. When I defeat this render of them by checking for revisionid (returns null at edit time), the RTE load time goes down to 5 seconds. Even better, it hides the templates I don't want contributors editing through the RTE template editor. Where would I document such a technical workaround like this? - 18:45, 6 July 2009 (UTC)