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Please add new messages to the bottom, thanks :) -- sannse (talk)

New category feature - Category tag on articles when they already have them when not logged -in
When I'm not logged in at Wikia:Christianity every article has an add category tag, even though they already have categories. I've turned this feature off in my user preferences. This is only at Wikia:Christianity. Could you please do something about it. --Kathleen.wright5 22:37, 18 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Hi Kathleen. The idea is to make it easy to add more categories... often more works better than one per article.  I can turn it off for the wiki if that's what you and the community want, but why try it out a bit more and see if it works for you :) -- sannse (talk) 18:59, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

RuneScape Wiki - Personal privacy
Hello Sannse. I hate to bother you with yet another RS wikia community problem, but this is serious. I would appreciate if you would weigh in here. A few months ago, User:Earthere was supposedly emailed a direct link to an image from my personal, private myspace. He had no way to access it himself, and I have a feeling that Total Rune (I'm sure you remember him) sent him the image link. He then proceeded to post it to his userpage along with an insult. He was subsequently banned. Now, he feels he has served his time. I am absolutely appalled. There has been a community discussion opened to possibly remove his ban, but I fail to see in any way how this is a community decision, when this is complete trolling, and because it did not personally hurt any of the other wikia editors. He harassed me on one of the most personal and invasive levels. I know that Wikia is not Wikipedia, but one of their policies states unless unintentional and non-malicious... attempted outing is grounds for an immediate block. It is undeniable that his posting of the image was intentional and clearly malicious. At the time of the ban, all users supported the ban for the reasons I have stated. I cannot wrap my head around the idea of him being unbanned after such behaviour, and I implore that you comment on this discussion. Thank you. Christine 23:26, 18 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Hi Christine. This is very much a community decision.  And I see that the consensus seems to be going towards leaving him banned. -- sannse (talk) 19:15, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

Request for de-adminship
Hello Sannse, this is Bluer. I would like to request the de-adminship of myself from Final Fantasy Wiki (http://finalfantasy.wikia.com). I have decided to withdraw from the project with no regrets whatsoever, effective immediately. I also would like to take this opportunity to inform you that I am now an active contributor to the Megami Tensei Wiki (http://megamitensei.wikia.com). Please, and thank you ^^  BLUER   一番   13:35, 19 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Hi Bluer, you could participate on both you know... :) Are you sure about this?  It's easy to leave your rights for a while, and see if you want to make the occasional change here and there?  Let me know... -- sannse (talk) 19:21, 20 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Yes, Sannse, I'm very sure of this decision. I do not wish to participate in the FFWiki any longer: reasons being no more interest in the subject matter, the wiki is already saturated with users who are more than able to handle the wiki without my presence, and I have no interest to mingle with the current "community" there. Thank you for your consideration.  BLUER   一番   04:45, 23 March 2009 (UTC)
 * OK Bluer, that's done. Good luck on the Megami Tensei wiki! -- sannse (talk) 12:51, 23 March 2009 (UTC)

Confusing Problem
Hey there, I'm sorry that I might be disturbing you with a little problem of mine, but I just wanted to ask, I'm new here, and I'm not that good at editing pages and character bios and stuff, but I want to tell you that after I was editing Sara Shirabuki's bio(Vampire Knight character), there were scroll bar stuff, instead of being seen plainly, and I don't know what happened. Please help, I hope you read this soon. Thank you very much.
 * Hi, it's just that you put a space at the beginning of the line. Which forces that line into preformatted text.  I've fixed it for you -- sannse (talk) 19:26, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

Admin problem
In halopedia, an administrator keeps deleting my work and then locks the page. he says that my work is not actual work but vandalism and does not belong on that page. however, i did my research and everything i wrote is 100% backed up. shouldn't i be allowed to post my bit and if other don't like them they can remove them. I wouldn't have continued to repost them if the 1 admin would have contacted me and told me how i was wrong. is their anything i can do to get around his block on the page? Psycho60 13:36, 20 March 2009 (UTC)
 * This is something you need to discuss with the local admins... or better still, keep discussing on the talk page and come to an agreement between you. Trying to get around a page protection is just going to increase the conflict, it's better to try and reduce it with discussion and negotiation.  Perhaps one of the other admins can help you with this - sannse (talk) 20:11, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

Signature Bot
Would it be possible to run a bot on the Wii Wiki that automatically signs comments on talk pages as many users on this wiki don't bother to type 4 tildes? GT5162 16:11, 21 March 2009 (UTC)


 * I guess you could.. although I'm not sure how the bot would always recognise what needs to be signed and what doesn't...
 * I'd suggest you experiment first. There is a wiki at http://communitytest.wikia.com that's a general test space for anyone to use, if that helps... -- sannse (talk) 12:56, 23 March 2009 (UTC)
 * I was thinking of something that adds the template to all unsigned comments on talk pages, like on Adoption_requests. GT5162 15:59, 23 March 2009 (UTC)
 * I understand the idea, but I'm not sure if a bot would easily be able to recognise where to put the signature (for example if several people had left comments with a variable number of lines). But you could always give it a go on the test space and see what you can do :) -- sannse (talk) 12:10, 24 March 2009 (UTC)

questions
I appreciate your thanks, and yes, I do need some help of loading images, but, better enough how to Adopt the Guilty Gear Wikia, I want it to have its URL changes to Guiltygear.wikia.com instead of being redirected, any advise you can give me here?

I give you thanks in advance for your time, If you excuse me, farewell.
 * Hi, to adopt a wiki, have a look at Adoption requests. If you have adopted the wiki, then you can use Special:Contact to ask for changes to the URL.  And for image uploads, try Help:Uploading files :) -- sannse (talk) 12:56, 23 March 2009 (UTC)

Help with homophobic user
Hello on the runescape wikia there is an abusive and homphobic user. http://runescape.wikia.com/wiki/User:Clv309 could you please ban her from these 2 sites

http://irc.wikia.com/runescape

http://java.freenode.net//index.php?channel=wikia-runescape

Everytime i go to talk she makes homphobic comments and has threated to ban me because of my sexuality. Please ban her from the chtrooms and even the wrunescape wiki if you can. -


 * Well first off Sannse, the above user has been a troll both on the RuneScape Wiki, our forums, and our IRC chat. He has been banned from the IRC, and is on his way to being banned on the Wiki and Forums. Christine has provided logs to prove so.


 * Secondly, could we please get User:Wikia flagged as a bot on the RuneScape Wiki? Thanks!


 * 17:09, 23 March 2009 (UTC)

excess comments removed - sannse


 * Balmz: This is a matter for the Runescape admins and IRC ops, and it's clear that they are in agreement.  Please move on.
 * Karlis: User:Wikia can't currently be flagged (well, it can, but it doesn't make any difference) because of the way the script works. This should be fixed soon -- sannse (talk) 12:20, 24 March 2009 (UTC)

Monaco Skins and Notes
Hi, I wanted to know were are the Admin Options to create my skin and when a new user comes to my wiki send automaticly this message: Thanks --Matias arana 10 00:21, 24 March 2009 (UTC)


 * Hey Matias, if you goto your preferences on your wiki, under Skin you'll see an admin options at the bottom, and you can open the dropdown and choose the skin you want.


 * As for the welcome, that's part of a set of features Wikia rolled out last week, you can leave feedback for it here. You can customize it like that perfectly, you can read more about at User:Wikia. If you need any help with customizing it to look like that messages just let me know and I'll be glad to help :) -- 00:41, 24 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Please add a note saying that you took it from FringeWiki on your wiki, as that is a direct copy (with image change). &mdash; [[Image:BalisticSig.png]] 00:43, 24 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Ok. Thanks! Visit me at American Idol Wiki --Matias arana 10 01:50, 24 March 2009 (UTC)

IRC
How do I obtain a Wikia IRC Channel for my wiki? << UDK >>-<< Talk >>-<< Contribs >>-<< YCM >>


 * You will need an IRC client to create the channel, and use Special:Contact to request it be added to the IRC gateway access list so gateway users can join it. To keep within the Wikia namespace (and so Wikia owns the channel and can help in any situation that arises), it should be named something like


 * If you need any help with this, I will be available on IRC tonight. -- 13:10, 24 March 2009 (UTC)


 * Thnx. UDK

Stalked your to-do list
I got bored and wandered onto wikia from enwiki. I stumbled upon your to-do list and saw the thing about. After seeing the instructions for the template's use, it looks like it's antiquated to what mediawiki (at least svn, probably a major release by now) has supported for a while: create-protected pages. Moreover, templates won't get rendered in the edit summary, but will get rendered in as they're displayed to the user (like block reasons), hence the reason I created pp-create on enwikipedia a while back.

.... annnyway, I assume that that entry might have been something along the lines of a migration of the various wikia "salted" pages over to the new system, which would include changes to the methodology of the deletedpage template and/or instructions to admins on the template's documentation page and/or changes to the protect-a-page dropdown reasons. The other possibility is you might have had had something in mind for using it in relation to the Titleblacklist extension, but it doesn't look like it's enabled on this wiki. *shrug*. Anyway, hope that might help; at least maybe something productive will be borne out of boredom. :P

Cheers =) --Slakr 12:32, 25 March 2009 (UTC)


 * Hi, I'd forgotten all about that to-do list :P I guess by now it's either done or waaay out of date.  I don't recall what I wanted to do with deleted page now... ah well, it will come up again if it's important ;)  -- sannse (talk) 13:02, 26 March 2009 (UTC)

Polls
Hey, I want to put a poll on my wiki of American Idol Wiki but I don't know how to do it. Here's a page with a poll: http://inheritance.wikia.com/wiki/Inheriwiki:Poll If you can help me I would thank you so much!--Matias arana 10 01:21, 28 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Hi, the best way to find out is usually to hit "edit" and look at the code :) In this case, all you need to do is start with, put your question on the next line, and then each possible answer on the following lines.  End with .  If you are on a wiki with the new editor, you will need to switch to wikitext mode. -  sannse (talk)

DPL
Can we get the DPL extension turned on for the GURPS wiki? --Roguebfl(talk) 05:43, 28 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Hi, first of all, please could you read w:c:help:DPL so that you understand the downsides and limitations to this? It's a feature that we sometimes have problems with, and sometimes have to turn off because of that.  If you are sure you understand this, and still want to use it, then let me know :) -- sannse (talk) 08:28, 31 March 2009 (UTC)
 * I'm aware of them, but I'll ask the community first. It is only "what's new" --Roguebfl(talk) 00:57, 1 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Can you please go ahead and add it. --Roguebfl(talk) 23:55, 3 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Sorry, I missed this one. It's on -- sannse (talk) 07:29, 6 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Thank you 8) Wasn't worried it was posted late Friday so I had not expected a response till Monday you you dealt with early on Monday --Roguebfl(talk) 17:02, 6 April 2009 (UTC)

Debouted request
Hello.

I'm the person which opened Forum:Request for de adminship on desencyclopedie, and you've seen we're unable to finsih to a consensus. But I've started the topic because of our unaibality to get to a consensus, so the objectives were to show the differents point of view to wikia staff in expactation they take a decision. I think there are sufficient elements to take it, and I don't wan't to pursue this debate for years. So I will just ask you to express a clear refutal of the request or to accept it. thanks and apologies for the invasion. El kloklo 00:16, 29 March 2009 (UTC)
 * I'm sorry, but this has to be a community decision. In most communities, it's up to the admins/bureaucrats to decide based on community discussion.  There are very few situations where Wikia staff will step in and remove an admin or bureaucrat (for example, we would if we saw an admin blocking everyone on the wiki and deleting all pages).  There are two active bureaucrats who can act for the community... and if they decide not to act, then that is your answer I'm afraid.  -- sannse (talk) 08:37, 31 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Ok, so if I understand well, if the community's majority could express a decision(this kind or another), they are unable to applicate it, without the support of any bureaucrat? El kloklo 11:25, 31 March 2009 (UTC)
 * If there were a very clear consensus, and the bureaucrats were ignoring it without explanation, then we would be likely to look at the situation. But that sort of consensus is not what I saw on the talk page.  It seems there are views on both sides. -- sannse (talk) 13:52, 31 March 2009 (UTC)
 * I know that we clearly didn't reach a consensus on the talkpages, but I'm interested in knowing how does it work in wikia, and this is not in the objective to achieve my ends, because this debate come to an end for me. But well there are many wikis in need of contributors :) El kloklo 15:55, 31 March 2009 (UTC)
 * We try to look at each situation carefully, and take into account factors like the activity of a wiki and the specific problem. We are more likely to get involved in a wiki that doesn't really have a community, but our general principle is to always try to leave community decisions to the community in question.  The community team's role is to try and support the community, not to rule it :)  -- sannse (talk) 18:48, 31 March 2009 (UTC)

Time problem at Necyklopedie
We have a problem with our time. Here. Thanks --Ráďa 16:46, 29 March 2009 (UTC)
 * We've fixed it ourselves :) --Ráďa 21:50, 29 March 2009 (UTC)
 * My favourite sort of problem! -- sannse (talk) 08:46, 31 March 2009 (UTC)

Bot flag
Hi, I'm Pfenner, a Nonciclopedia's admin. I'd like to request a bot flag for the account EurinomeFemBot, thank you very much. --Pfenner 14:41, 30 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Hi, that's done -- sannse (talk) 08:50, 31 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks :) --Pfenner 12:19, 31 March 2009 (UTC)

Creating Bots
Dear Sannse, I'm beginning to learn how to work Python and pyWikipedia bots to get some ideas for my wiki (The Third Turn) running more smoothly. However, as a rather amateur Python prgrammer, I've hit a huge block - the login script. Everytime I run the login.py script, I get syntax error after syntax error. I don't really see anyone else talking about issues with it, so I must assume I'm either an idiot or I somehow missed the fact that I do need to work some parameters.

Thus, perhaps, you'd be willing to show me what your functioning script of login.py is. If you can download the nightly version and get it to work, perhaps it is my user-config.py and family file? I think I followed those to the book though.

I hope you'll be willing to help me just a little bit. I'm an excellent programmer in Java and CSS, but this Python script is throwing me for a bit of the loop at the moment.

Thanks --DaNASCAT 02:22, 1 April 2009 (UTC)


 * I'm sorry, I don't know anything about Python or setting up bots. I would say your best sources of information will be the IRC channel at irc://irc.freenode.net/pywikipediabot or the mailing list at http://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/Pywikipedia-l .  You could also try talking to other users in the Wikia IRC channel, some there use bots I believe.  Sorry not to be more help! -- sannse (talk) 09:13, 1 April 2009 (UTC)

Patoll edit request
Hi Sannse, I want to request patrol edits for wakfu.wikia.com, guildopedia.wikia.com and es.wikia.com/dofus For the spanish dofu i already requested at Zuirdj talk page but i have not receive an answer in more 7 days, if its needed i can do the requests on the contact wikia, just need to know if 1 per wiki at each wiki contact page or with a single one with the 3 wikis will suffice?

Also do you know if there is a wiki where i can test the semantic freely? since i see that communitytest.wikia.com does not have it enable --


 * Hey, usually I would point you towards Special:Contact, but as I had a moment and you have had to wait already... done for all three :)
 * How long do you want a wiki with semantic mediawiki to be available? I can switch it on for communitytest for a while if you like?  If you need it long-term, then I'll find somewhere else... -- sannse (talk) 14:17, 2 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the patrols =D
 * Well if its possible long term would be nice since i'm trying to successfully multi task between wikis so im devoting certain amounts of time to each wiki so its hard to focus on a new stuff so i can wait some time.
 * Another option if you give me green light i could ask User:Ciencia Al Poder if i could use his/this wiki http://sysoptest.wikia.com/ for that as its looks like another test ground
 * Sure, I can enable it there if it works for both of you... if not, I'll make another wiki for testing it -- sannse (talk) 14:48, 2 April 2009 (UTC)
 * there he already gave me green light for using the wiki --
 * Cool, it's enabled there -- sannse (talk) 08:01, 3 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Ops i forgot to aks also for the Semantic Forms and Semantic Drilldown also pleaseee... --
 * Done and done :) -- sannse (talk) 13:10, 3 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks again and sorry for the extra hazel --
 * Thanks again and sorry for the extra hazel --

Sysop flag
Would love it if you could remove my sysop flag from tibia, since I won't be actively here anymore. Thanks -- Sixorish 12:32, 2 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Hi Sixorish. You could just leave it you know... who knows when it might turn out to be handy! :)  But if you are sure, one of your local bureaucrats can remove the flag for you now, so best to give them a shout -- sannse (talk) 14:21, 2 April 2009 (UTC)

Finnish Wikia's mainpage
Hey, user Runescapewikipedia vandalise Finnish Wikia's mainpage. http://fi.wikia.com/wiki/Wikia --Wappedia 12:37, 2 April 2009 (UTC)
 * I deleted spamms.-- Wappedia (Keskustele) ™ 12:58, 2 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Hi, I've done some more fixing and a bit of banning... thanks for the help -- sannse (talk) 14:49, 2 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Thank you and you are welcome.-- Wappedia (Keskustele) ™ 14:57, 2 April 2009 (UTC)

2 PlayStation Home Wikis
Hi! I've been searching around and noticed that there are 2 wikis about PlayStation Home.


 * http://playstationhome.wikia.com
 * http://pshome.wikia.com/

One is under this link: PlayStation Home, and one under this: Playstation Home. Should the newer wiki be deleted and be redirected to the old one? Also, could you keep me on time with this Playstation Home wiki thing on my talk page because I'm thinking of adopting the inactive wiki... Thank you for your help. :) HiQu | My talk 18:20, 6 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Hi, we recently changed our policy on duplicate wikis, to allow people to create them if they want to... although we still recommend that editors join an existing community if there is one. We are planning to develop some new tools to merge wikis, which will help when someone creates a duplicate, but then abandons it... but that's for the future, and certainly won't stop people adopting inactive wikis instead.  So go for it! -- sannse (talk) 10:55, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

Forums for logocreation wiki
Hey there sannse, I am wondering if you could make the Logo creation wiki forums like the Halo Wiki's forums. If you could do this i would also like the forum admin rights put in user-rights so i can make some users forum admins too.

Thanks

Rswfan


 * Hi, I'm sorry, we aren't adding more phpBB forums. Those aren't supported any more - they were an experiment that didn't quite work out.  -- sannse (talk) 11:00, 8 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Ok. HiQu | My talk 17:16, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

wikia bot @ chdk wiki
hello, thanks for taking matters into your hands regarding the wikia bot @ out chdk wiki. however, in the changelog, i still see all the changes (new welcome pages in particular) created by wikia, even though the bots are turned off to show up. does this setting only affect new pages created after you flagged wikia a bot?

regards, PhyrePhoX 10:23, 9 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Yes, it will only be changes that happen during the time the account is flagged that will be hidden. They will drop off the end of recent changes in time though -- sannse (talk) 10:49, 9 April 2009 (UTC)

Possible Affiliations
Hi, Sannse. I've been wondering if wikia has rules about wikis affiliating themselves with official sites! As the founder of The X-Files Wiki, I was recently contacted by a web designer who is creating a new site for Frank Spotnitz, a frequent producer on The X-Files, and was wondering about a possible partnership between the wiki and the new site, re-skinning the wiki but leaving it as a site for fans to write information about the series and films. Would this be allowable, as far as wikia is concerned? Frankly, I don't see why not, since it would most likely boost traffic to the wiki, which surely can only be a good thing! Am I right? --Mulder 13:25, 10 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Hi, there is no problem with affiliations :) although there is a restriction on users adding their own (or other people's) advertising to the site. I'll ask one of the Entertainment team to call by and see if they can help in any way.  It sounds like an exciting opportunity! -- sannse (talk) 10:31, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

Wikia Community Support
Hi Sannase. Thanks for your your quick response to my question regarding my account being hacked. I still have some concerns however. My account (User:Aburnett001) was granted Bureaucrat rights on the Castle Crashers Wiki, and I'm concerned by the fact that someone else has access it to it right now, as it could be used to seriously disrupt our wiki. I have tried contacting our wiki's only currently remaining Bureaucrat, but he hasn't been on in a few weeks, and he hasn't responded to my emails. Should any action be taken against this account? Also, is there any way for me to get my bureaucrat rights back to I can continue to help the wiki, or am I again going to have to prove myself worthy of rights? (Our 'crat finally returned and restored my powers) Any answers would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks- Aburnett

Edit: If noting else, could you unprotect my old userpage and subpages so I can move them? Thanks! -Aburnett


 * Hi, I've removed the remaining right on the old account, all should be good there. -- sannse (talk) 10:35, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

My LEGO Network Wiki IRC
Hey there Sannse,

How long is it usually that IRC channels get added to the Wikia database? The #mlnw still hasn't been added. 00:13, 14 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Hi, sorry for the wait, the guys have so much to get done! But it's on there now :) -- sannse (talk) 10:48, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

Tesfanon Fonts
Hi, I'm an administrator of Tesfanon, and I would like to temporarily be able to upload ZIP and TrueType files onto Tesfanon. I would like to have some in-game fonts for other users to use. --Michaeldsuarez (Talk) (Deeds) 16:08, 14 April 2009 (UTC)
 * I'm sorry, those aren't allowed file types. There may also be copyright issues with providing fonts for users to download.  But if this isn't an issue, then perhaps you can host the files elsewhere and then link to them from the wiki -- sannse (talk) 10:56, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

Admin
How do I become admin on the Custom Bionicles Wikia??? --Terry Davis Gant 22:32, 16 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Hi, you should talk to the current admins/bureaucrats on the wiki. There is a list of them here. -- sannse (talk) 12:05, 17 April 2009 (UTC)

Kudos to Wikia Community Team in communicating wikia status
I wanted to drop a note thanking you and the community team for your recent efforts in keeping the wikis informed. Tonight's (today's?) broadcast message warning of the temp DB lock is great (and exactly the type of thing I'm hoping to see more of during the various upgrade/stability projects). Setting the community's expectations this way is a cheap way of getting us to root for the disruptions (b/c we want to see the improvements) instead of griping/whining (because we don't know for how long or what for).

Keep up the good work. And thank you. &mdash; Tennessee Ernie Ford ( TEF ) 08:05, 20 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the comments, I'll pass them on to the rest of the team :) -- sannse (talk) 15:59, 20 April 2009 (UTC)

Liberapedia
Liberapedia is subject to reapeat vandalism. Please help. Proxima Centauri 08:13, 20 April 2009 (UTC)
 * I see the wiki already has w:c:liberapedia:Special:Protectsite... hummm... One thing we could do is restrict editing to logged in users. It's not something we often do, and it might just mean the vandals take time to log in, but it's an option. Other than that, it's mostly a case of "block and revert".  I'll try to check in every now and then to see how it's going. -- sannse (talk) 16:19, 20 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks. Proxima Centauri 18:49, 20 April 2009 (UTC)

Check User request.
Hi.

Could you check to see if User:Toughie109 and User:BULLYWORLD24 are the same person please. Dan the Man 1983 02:26, 21 April 2009 (UTC)
 * No, there's no indication on checkuser that they are the same person -- sannse (talk) 11:29, 21 April 2009 (UTC)

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Fresh Prince
Hey I was wondering if I could Adopt the Fresh Prince wikia since it's inactive and small. I know a lot about the show and watch it every day. Appreciate it- Sonyfan453 9:09 April 24, 2009.
 * Hi, please go to Adoption requests to make your request :) -- sannse (talk) 16:22, 21 April 2009 (UTC)

HELLO
tanks for the wellcomming/ i'll need help in the first days of my new WIKI. itws humor viki which prepered for religius jewish pepole. can i take advises from you? ארטיק 14:41, 21 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Sure :) you can also get help from the Central Forum or from the Wikia IRC channel. And don't forget the Help Wikia -- sannse (talk) 16:23, 21 April 2009 (UTC)