Board Thread:Support Requests - Community Management/@comment-3551372-20150701020125/@comment-24846733-20150705005317

452 wrote:

EmigaRaptor wrote: who gets his jimmies rustled

Pfff. Even ignoring everything else you've ever said which indicates you're a troll, this quote alone speaks volumes about you.

Pinkolol16 started this thread on Community Central to ask for advice. You following them here and bringing the issues from the wiki here is generally frowned upon - just as it is generally frowned upon to post off-topic nonsense in threads.

Pinkolol16 has already demoted themselves, so you have already won - the fact that you're continuing to go on about it just raises further questions about your intentions.

EmigaRaptor wrote:

So you're telling me admins are free to impose and enforce any bull they want to? Yes. However, requiring that users remain on-topic is hardly "bull".

DEmersonJMFM wrote:

Bad habits must sometimes be broken with a firm hand that naturally many won't agree with (as they are the ones entangled in them). That being said, there's nothing unreasonable about Pinkolol16's request.

Edit: The key to that paragraph is "This idea is an ideal scenario." The reality is that this is not always practical or in the best interest of the community wiki. Each community is different and given latitude to determine where they wish to go. I support community involvement, but not actions that promote mayhem and disorder. Indeed.

There's Democracy, and then there's Mobocracy.

EmigaRaptor, I'm sure you could get plenty of people to vote "Yes" to "All users get admin rights", that doesn't make it a good idea.

edit: Actually, let's look at the definition of Democracy, since you're using the word so often:
 * Democracy is "a system of government in which all the people of a state or polity ... are involved in making decisions about its affairs, typically by voting to elect representatives to a parliament or similar assembly,"

This is typically how wikis work, admins are elected/appointed, and then they make policy.

What you're talking about is mob rule, rather than democracy. Oh dear, I am as much of a troll as you are a potato. :|

Hmhm! Raises questions about my intentions? If I get directly quoted and called an idiot on a thread like this, I'll have the right to, you know, at least give my own two cents about the situation.

My intention surely wasn't to get Pinkolol to demote herself, even though I'm not at all against it. She did a good job until just shortly ago!

Every community rolls in a different way. Ours seems to have evolved (or devolved, call it as you may!) into going off-topic and chit-chatting everywhere. At that point an admin interfering is... Questionable at least!

Now, indeed Mobocracy seems to have it's flaws... I have to re-think that. But an admin bashing in a rule all by himself going against most of the community and some admins themselves isn't something I'm keen to accept! It's quite a predicament. In most places I'd agree with you,  but this particular wiki just 'rolls' that way since ages! It hasn't caused real problems that weren't fixed later on by, GUESS WHAT, an agreement between members(and admins)! None of this silly mumbo wumbo. :|