Forum:We want a new skin

Dear Wikia,

I think I'm not the only one that absolutely loves Wikipedia's new skin, Vector. It's a more modern, improved version of Monobook, which usually tends to be people's favorite skin. I'm pretty sure a lot of people, including myself, would love to be able to use it here on Wikia. But not only that, we'd like you to allow wiki admins to choose whether they want to have Monaco or Vector to be their wiki's default skin. So who's with me? 15:08, July 23, 2010 (UTC)

Supports
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 * 15:08, July 23, 2010 (UTC)
 * 1) Jeffwang16   (Talk)   (Contribs.)  Email 15:11, July 23, 2010 (UTC) - Oh! Yes, I like Vector WAY more than Monaco! Seriously!
 * 2) YAY VECTOR! Monaco sucks & lags too much. Vector is shiny, looks better, and lags a lot less.
 * 3) Monaco is the worst thing that ever happened to Wikia. I agree with Spark: Vector looks better, and it doesn't lag the way Monaco does. There are all those interactive features on Monaco, sure, but all of those COULD work on any other skin, it's just that the Wikia team made those features so that they only worked on Monaco. Presumably so that there would be at least one good thing about that awful skin. Why not just put those features on all skins, rather than forcing us to use Monaco?
 * 4) I agree with Cobweb on this.
 * 5) Per all.
 * 6) I also think the vector skin should be enabled it would look great, furthermore you should also get to customize it using Vector.css if there is such a thing, also i noticed that the monaco skin loads slowly, come on we need a faster loading instead of waiting 5 minutes for the whole page to load.
 * 7) The Vector skin is miles better than Monaco. It took some getting used to, but after that initial resentment I began to love it. There is absolutely no reason to oppose this.
 * 1) I also think the vector skin should be enabled it would look great, furthermore you should also get to customize it using Vector.css if there is such a thing, also i noticed that the monaco skin loads slowly, come on we need a faster loading instead of waiting 5 minutes for the whole page to load.
 * 2) The Vector skin is miles better than Monaco. It took some getting used to, but after that initial resentment I began to love it. There is absolutely no reason to oppose this.

Oppose
Not much of a fair vote, is it. -- Fandyllic  (talk &middot; contr) 9:34 AM PST 23 Jul 2010


 * Oppose - If I appose I have an equal right to let it be known. The above bolded text is very slanted. 16:52, July 23, 2010 (UTC)
 * I don't oppose, but I do agree that we should get rid of the bold statement. I personally don't see why someone wouldn't want this, but they shouldn't feel pressured into not stating their opinion. -- http://images.wikia.com/nintendo/en/images/b/b9/BentendoSmallLogo.png Talk  16:55, July 23, 2010 (UTC)
 * Done. The bold text is gone. Cobweb (Talk)


 * 1) Holly Thornblade The War to End All Wars- Have You Joined? 17:27, July 23, 2010 (UTC)  I don't feel that we should have to use it, because there are loading problems for it on my computer.

Supports adding Vector as an option, but oppose making it the default

 * This is my vote. -- Fandyllic  (talk &middot; contr) 10:01 AM PST 23 Jul 2010
 * I don't think anyone said we were going to make it the default. We just want the option to be able to choose to make it the default on our own wikis. Cobweb (Talk)
 * Yeah, I understand now. It just wasn't clear the way the vote was initially proposed (in a rather biased way). -- Fandyllic  (talk &middot; contr) 10:27 AM PST 23 Jul 2010

Comments
I was wondering the other day why in the world Wikia wasn't using Vector, because Wikia has close ties with Wikimedia. Jeffwang16  (Talk)   (Contribs.)  Email 15:11, July 23, 2010 (UTC)

Actually, just not too long ago I read something in the forums that basically said, and I believe it was by a Wikia Staff member, that Vector would most likely give problems on Wikia sites as well as a few other downfalls. I'll try to see if I can find the page again. --† DustKateb  (Talk to Me!)† 15:13, July 23, 2010 (UTC)


 * DustKateb, I think you are talking about this: http://community.wikia.com/wiki/Forum%3AVector_skin_for_Wikis%3F.


 * And yes, it was by Charitwo. Jeffwang16

(Talk)  (Contribs.)  Email 15:21, July 23, 2010 (UTC)
 * I'm on the fence on this one. I think it looks a little bit to gray on Wikipedia, but that's usually something that's easy to fix. I admire the fact that it looks simple and a little less cluttered than Monaco overall, but Monaco has some nice interactive features. I hope the new Wikia skin (if we're going to get a new skin) learns a few tricks from Vector. BramTalk/IGW 15:31, July 23, 2010 (UTC)

At the very least, we should be allowed to choose what we want the default skin on our wikis to be. I'm voting for this proposal because almost any skin would be better than Monaco. I understand if the Wikia staff doesn't want to enable Vector, just please, let us choose the default skin on our wikis. Cobweb (Talk)


 * Ironically, this is the feature article when I visit Wikipedia: Confirmation bias.
 * I'm not totally opposed to to Vector, but I'm not a big fan either. I never log into Wikipedia, so I'm not sure what the flexibility of Vector is via preferences. All I know is I don't like to have to expando the Toolbox to get to it. -- Fandyllic  (talk &middot; contr) 9:38 AM PST 23 Jul 2010

I don't really get why anyone would oppose new skins being added, as long as everyone has the choice not to use those skins. It doesn't affect you, does it? Cobweb (Talk) I mean, I wouldn't have minded Monaco except that Wikia's trying to force us to use it as the default skin.


 * I agree that expanding the tool box is... an odd choice. However, I don't see why you wouldn't support the skin, especially since everyone who doesn't like Vector would be given the option to go back to Monaco. Besides, I think if you gave Vector a chance you'd probably end up liking it. At first I absolutely hated the new skin, but it grew on me. -- http://images.wikia.com/nintendo/en/images/b/b9/BentendoSmallLogo.png Talk  16:48, July 23, 2010 (UTC)
 * How long does it need to take for it to grow on me? I don't oppose new skins being added as long as the transition is handled well. The request here is not to add Vector, but sounds like making Vector the default skin which I do oppose. I don't oppose adding Vector as an option that admins can make the default on a per-wiki basis. I just don't think Vector is all that and shouldn't be the default skin. -- Fandyllic  (talk &middot; contr) 9:59 AM PST 23 Jul 2010
 * My proposal isn't about making Vector the default skin, I doubt Wikia would ever do that. I said it was to let the users choose Vector if they want, and let admins change it to their wiki's default skin if they wish. 17:05, July 23, 2010 (UTC)
 * Okay. That wasn't clear to me in your original post. I still really don't like Vector that much, but I don't oppose it as a choice. -- Fandyllic  (talk &middot; contr) 10:09 AM PST 23 Jul 2010


 * I agree with you completely. It would probably be best to create a vector skin as an option at first (instead of default) and see what the community's response to it is. I think people would be satisfied to just be given the option to choose Vector... I highly doubt many people would care too much if it was implemented just as an optional skin and not a default one. -- http://images.wikia.com/nintendo/en/images/b/b9/BentendoSmallLogo.png  Talk  17:13, July 23, 2010 (UTC)