Board Thread:Darwin/@comment-126761-20130822134425/@comment-1863391-20131119125059

Mira84 wrote: Correct. No custom CSS is available for the current mobile web as the fast loading times would suffer. The statistics show that 90% of mobile users will likely leave a site if it doesn't load within 2 seconds. It's not all bad news though. We're currently working on a mobile web refresh and we'll offer some light css via the Theme Designer. Stay tuned for that. Isn't that the kind of decision you should leave up to admins? Any sysop can easily throw up a bunch of inefficient JavaScript and a 16mb stylesheet full of expensive CSS3, which would also slow down the site for desktop users. You trust users to exercise good judgment with their wikis as they appear on a desktop, but not on a phone?

I'm an admin on a Gamepedia wiki. Gamepedia lets admins style their mobile sites, which I did. If you were wondering, there are 110 declarations in there. You can test it yourself. The mobile pages don't take any longer to load than Wikia pages.

The truth is simply this: as long as admins know what they're doing, or as long as they can find someone who does willing to help them, fast load times will not suffer if you let admins style their mobile wikis. If you're truly afraid admins will use enormous fifteen-hundred line long stylesheets, impose a hard character limit of five, ten, or fifteen thousand. Problem solved.

I don't know how much of your market share Curse has taken, but a Gamepedia site has overtaken my home wiki in Google search results, and that sucks. You can't keep withholding basic features and expecting to remain top dog. Editors will either get fed up with you and leave or the users will. I do see that you're reintroducing a fluid layout. That's good progress! But maybe you should consider working a little bit faster. A few "light CSS" options for the mobile skin released in a few months or more isn't good enough.

I'd really like to see a staff reply to this.

Edit: and yeah, I know you're in community support. This message is more directed towards the director or your engineering department or whoever's in charge of this sort of thing.