User talk:JSharp

Text Field and Button: Add code to article?
Hey JSharp. Got another problem for you: How can I made a field box and button such that when I click the button it adds a new line of code to a given article? Here's an example: The highlighed text is what the button would add: http://wikia.pastey.net/85516-2zaa. The original Template is here: http://shaiya.wikia.com/wiki/User:Data/Weapon/All-Stripped/SB and after adding the line it's this: http://shaiya.wikia.com/wiki/User:Data/Weapon/All-Stripped2/SB Nicolasjager 05:33, 11 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Sure, in this case you'd need to follow the instructions here: http://help.wikia.com/wiki/Help:Custom_edit_buttons . That should be everything you need :) -- JSharp (talk) 02:51, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

Problem Advert
I already requested that you block the inappropriate ad with Jessica Simpson in her wet T-shirts but since it's still around, here's the URL. http://hosted.zango.com/affiliates/lp/JessicaSimpson.htm?ref=30289 -Arias Knight
 * Sorry about the trouble, it's just that we'll need a bit more information about the ad to block it successfully. Here are the instructions to get the information we'll need:

How can I report a bad advertisement --- Firefox instructions
 * 1) Right click on the ad
 * 2) If the Element Properties box appears then copy the url shown for Image Properties - Location:   It's probably a very long url so be sure to copy the whole line.
 * 3) If a flash player menu appears (which is likely for animated ads)
 * 4) *Ignore the flash menu
 * 5) *On the Firefox toolbar, click Tools=>Page Info
 * 6) *Select the Media tab from the Page Info popup
 * 7) *Look through the list of address for a very long URL, its probably the longest URL in the list
 * 8) *Copy that url
 * 9) Note the URL of the wiki where the ad was spotted and the size of the ad.
 * 10) If convenient, send a snapshot of the ad as well.
 * 11) Collect the above data into an e-mail and send it to community@wikia.com and your removal request will be evaluated. Please note that bad ad requests are evaluated on a case by case basis.

This is an example of a typical ad url: http://content.mmanager.nmcxnnet.net/atmos/f9/43/f9439va8afb77a799ga9sg83.swf?clickTag=http%3A%2F%2Fads%2Drm%2Errroorrr%2Ecom%2Fasdf%asdfiaosdASDFASDF . If you don't have firefox please let me know which browser you do have and I'll get some instructions made up for it. -- JSharp (talk) 19:47, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

All Messages
Hi. When I translate some of the messages in here on fa.wikia it only changes on that wikia. Where I can translate the messages that will show up every where?
 * And please look at this.--BlueDevil Talk 21:30, 21 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Sure, you can add your messages into w:c:internationalization and they'll be reviewed and copied over globally though that wiki may be being deprecated. -- JSharp (talk) 04:11, 25 April 2008 (UTC)

can you do that sysop can give rollback to any user they want in the Hebrew Eincyclopedia?
is it possible? 14:00, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Unfortuantly no, at this time special:giverollback is limited to founders and staff only. -- JSharp (talk) 04:10, 25 April 2008 (UTC)

Template
Hello,

I was told that you're Wikia's resident Template expert, so I'm asking for help. I'm the (less expert) Templater on Elderscrolls Wikia, but I'm having trouble with this one. It's an attempt to merge some other templates into one for more easy use. Could you take a look at it? The code should work, but when tried it, well, doesn't. Thanks in advance. - Game LordTalk 14:10, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Hi :) I've taken a look at your code and I'm going to need a bit more time to work on it. I'll let you know what I find out soon. -- JSharp (talk) 19:24, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

Bug in the logo script in the hebrew eincyclopedia
in firefox it's work fine, but in explorer it's disappear and after few seconds appear again and it's says that there are bug in the page, can you fix it? 15:19, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
 * hmm, I took a look at it but IE is a little hard to debug. It should be identical to the english uncyclopedia. Have you tried clearing your cache and cookies? -- JSharp (talk) 01:11, 25 April 2008 (UTC)

About translations
See Jack Phoenix message on Forum:Translations.

To reproduce this:


 * 1) Go to Special:Allmessages of a non-english wiki, and select one system message that:
 * 2) * Is already translated in the language of that wiki but is not modified in that wiki (the message has a red link). That means that the message is picked from the .php script of that language on the server.
 * 3) * and a translation for that message doesn't exist in w:c:messaging.
 * For example, to see if the message MediaWiki:Exif-fnumber is translated in German, go to w:c:messaging:MediaWiki:Exif-fnumber/de and check that it doesn't exist.
 * 1) Then create the message in english on messaging. For example: w:c:messaging:MediaWiki:Exif-fnumber. Note: without /en because the base language for messaging is english).

A live example, in Spanish:


 * 1) On w:c:es.pokemon, w:c:es.pokemon:MediaWiki:Userrights-editusergroup is translated to Spanish, but the system message isn't created yet.
 * 2) On w:c:messaging:MediaWiki:Userrights-editusergroup/es doesn't exists
 * 3) Create w:c:messaging:MediaWiki:Userrights-editusergroup, with the text in english.
 * 4) Now w:c:es.pokemon:MediaWiki:Userrights-editusergroup shows the english message instead of the spanish one. That affects all languages (except english), so the default of that message in all languages of all wikis is now in english.

I picked that message because Special:Userrights isn't visible to users or sysops, and changes on that message aren't harmful.

PD: the deletion of these comments was intended? --Ciencia Al Poder (talk) -WikiDex 19:25, 23 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks for giving me that list. The deletion of those comments wasn't intentional, and I've put them back. I'll see if I can reproduce that issue with your instructions and then I'll file a bug ticket. -- JSharp (talk) 19:34, 24 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Hmm, I tried to reproduce the issue but your default message wasn't changed when I created w:c:messaging:MediaWiki:Userrights-editusergroup on messaging with the english text even when I was logged out. Is it possible the issue has been fixed already or that it was a temporary error? Can you point me at an existing message that should be in spanish according to default mediawiki message tables but is currently in english because of messaging? -- JSharp (talk) 17:55, 25 April 2008 (UTC)

Ok, my example didn't worked, but could you explain that?
 * Creation, move and detete:, and . Now in all languages that message are totally empty: MediaWiki:Fancycaptcha-createaccount, MediaWiki:Captcha-badlogin, MediaWiki:Captcha-create, es:MediaWiki:Fancycaptcha-createaccount, es:MediaWiki:Captcha-badlogin, es:MediaWiki:Captcha-create. And yes, I say NOW because the default message exist in ConfirmEdit.i18n.php.

And about an example that you requested: I can't explain why my avobe didn't worked. Maybe someone fixed it (except when the message is moved/deleted) or maybe it's completely random. Cheers. --Ciencia Al Poder (talk) -WikiDex 14:06, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
 * I had to restore the default message of MediaWiki:Addsection because (just compare dates). And that message is easily visible on all talk pages.
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 * I've been looking at this for the last several days, but I'm still having trouble reproducing this. I'll keep trying, if it's still happening for you. -- JSharp (talk) 17:33, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

Template help
On top trumps wiki i have an template for packs, but it goes to the bottom, instead of the top as on other wikis and some other pages.Heres an example.Could you please help and please post on here.Thanks.Sgtcook 20:47, 23 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Responded on user talk page. -- JSharp (talk) 17:55, 25 April 2008 (UTC)
 * The problem is that it goes to the bottom, even though i type it at the top.Could you make it so it goes to the top, like on other wikis, e.g. simpsons - thanks - Sgtcook 19:18, 25 April 2008 (UTC)
 * I think i found the problem.It goes to where the menu is, if its there, so if its not there, it goes to the bottom.Sgtcook 19:17, 28 April 2008 (UTC)

 Problems
Hey JSharp,(again)

Thanks for your help with the collapsible tables and stuff.I use them a lot now.

I've been having a problem ever since I started working on Custom Bionicles:That external images don't work.Instead of displaying an image from other domain/sever/website,etc.,it shows the external link (this applies to even images from other wikis).Their are only two ways to make it work,but they don't solve it:
 * Put it into a link as the shown text (like this: ).


 * Use the URL of the image on our image server (i.e:the URL of a image on our wiki).

I've tried the  tag,but the system doesn't even recognize it as a proper tag (i.e:It shows it instead of hiding it when putting it around an external image URL).

Is there anything I can put in the Common.CSS of our wiki to make the  tag work or something?Please help!

-- Seth Laugh Edits 20:50, 27 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Well, external images for Wikia wikis are disabled due to their ability to be compromised. Was there a specific reason you wanted to use external images? -- JSharp (talk) 23:57, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

All Messages (Cont.)
Hi Thanks for your answer. Messages in here are all translated, but in fa.wikia are some that are not in mediawiki and not translated yet. How can I translate them globaly?--BlueDevil Talk 22:19, 27 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Ah, so the messages have been translated in mediawiki core but haven't been brought over to wikia yet? We're currently working on devising a way to make it easy for users to contribute globally with translations. If you like you could make a page of links to your translated messages so that we might copy them over to messaging.wikia. If you like to help in translating messages for all mediawiki users, not just on wikia, you might take a look at the Beta wiki project. -- JSharp (talk) 21:50, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

MapMarking
Hello, PanSola tell me about you are going to help me about MapLib and iframes thingy. Thanks you a lot ;)

Ralstlin 19:50, 28 April 2008 (UTC)
 * No problem. Just let me know what you need assistance with and I'll be happy to help. -- JSharp (talk) 17:35, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

Moving a wiki
Hi Justin, my name's Tom, and I'm new to Wikia. I've recently made the decision to move my wiki from another provider (Wikidot). Wikdot allow a backup/restore function, so I currently have over 600 text files (each one being a single page). Is there any way to upload these directly rather than through the interface (copy and paste x 600)?

My wiki is now at factopedia.wikia.com - glad if you could help! Soop 2 13:14, 6 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Hmm, I'll take a look and see what I can find. -- JSharp (talk) 21:40, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

Thanks!
Thanks for your help in the past few days on Memory Alpha. It's nice to know there's someone else to fall back on when we less experienced folks exhaust our own resources. :) -- Renegade54 20:49, 6 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Hey, no problem. It's what I'm here for. If you have any other questions or concerns please just let me know and I'll be happy to help. -- JSharp (talk) 21:40, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

Wookieepedia problem report
It wasn't properly linked in the report (and apparently there's a separate problem there with punctuation in interwiki links, as I was forced to format this as a web link to preserve the ?), and I don't know that he'll bother to check followups. This is it. We don't have a clue what he's on about either. -- Darth Culator  (Talk) 19:36, 7 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks, I'll see if I can find anyone who has safari 2 to check out the site. -- JSharp (talk) 20:31, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

the main page not look correct
i use in opensuse 10.3 and i browse in firefox and the mainpage look for me like that: http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/eincyclopedia/images/thumb/f/ff/Screenshot17.png/800px-Screenshot17.png

all the other pages look correct 18:18, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
 * That's due to an unclosed tag in your main page. Taking a look at it now :) -- JSharp (talk) 18:31, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
 * The content there appears to be correct.. What browser are you using? -- JSharp (talk) 22:06, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Ah, well, I see you answered that question. Hmm, I'm not able to replicate the problem -- could it have been fixed? -- JSharp (talk) 22:46, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

i success to fix it. 77.127.118.82 13:20, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

Bot on Spamwiki
Dear JSharp! Angela sad, you can help me. We need a weblink checker bot in Hungarian Spamwiki (http://spamwiki.wikia.com/) by right of our consensus. Can you help us to start it? --blogadmin 14:57, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Do you need a new bot written or did you need a bot flag set on an account? -- JSharp (talk) 18:32, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

I need web link checker, but I must translate it, that's all. --blogadmin 18:58, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

Help me with that damn script!
i tried to fix the ie6 problem, so i worte in the monobook: /* custom namespace logos (still under testing, this only works on full namespaces) -Splaka */ /* Main: and Main_talk: */ body.ns-0 #p-logo a { } body.ns-1 #p-logo a { } /* */ body.ns-100 #p-logo a { background-image: url(http://images.wikia.com/eincyclopedia/images/e/e3/Notzitut.png) !important; } body.ns-101 #p-logo a { } /* */ body.ns-120 #p-logo a { background-image: url(http://images.wikia.com/eincyclopedia/images/a/ae/Einmeelon.png) !important; } body.ns-121 #p-logo a { } /* */ body.ns-130 #p-logo a { background-image: url(http://images.wikia.com/eincyclopedia/images/b/b2/Handbook.png) !important; } body.ns-131 #p-logo a { } /* */ /*  */ and it's still appear in ie6! 16:56, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

how can i make it work!? 16:56, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Okay, I'm taking a look at your front page and script. -- JSharp (talk) 18:34, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Okay, it looks like your custom logos are loading on IE. I've removed the line of javascript from your Monobook.js that was causing the error (undefined function) and removed the conditional comments/invalid XHTML from your css. I'm also currently investigating a global bug with regard to RTL languages and have filed a defect ticket for it, so that should be fixed soon as well. -- JSharp (talk) 21:42, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

thank you. 77.127.118.82 13:21, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

Bots...
Hi JSharp,

I was wondering if you could possibly help me programme a bot.

I would like it to possibly do several things (ranked in priority order!).


 * 1) AntiVandal - we keep on getting a "boring" IP vandal
 * 2) Message Archiving
 * 3) Assessment - Like Wikipedia's one.

Hope you can help!

Thanks,

 BG 7   14:50, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Well, at the moment, I'm afraid I can't devote that much time to a comprehensive robot project. However, I'll be happy to provide you pointers along the way and help with coding from time to time if you'd like. Do you need some pointers to get you started? -- JSharp (talk) 18:45, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Ok. If you can start me off that'd be great! I don't have a massive knowledge of any programming languages beyond CSS/html/JavaScript etc, but I am willing to learn!
 * Thanks,
 *  BG 7   18:50, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Sure :) A really good place to start out is at . Even though it's about creating robots for wikipedia a lot of it is very applicable to creating robots for Wikia hosted wikis too. Make sure you take a good look at the various frameworks and don't be afraid to learn a new programming language to take advantage of a good bot framework. -- JSharp (talk) 18:54, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

Re: Copyvio at Freestyle Nunchaku Wiki
Hi, I'm an admin at Freestyle Nunchaku Wiki.

In response to http://nunchaku.wikia.com/wiki/Talk:Fuel: This article and others by this author (Rellizate) have permission to be reposted/used for this wiki. See the last posts here: http://www.freestyleforum.net/index.php?topic=4113.30 The member is a moderator at the forum that runs this wiki project and has granted permission for use. --Wild Industry 23:59, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Okay, sorry about the trouble :) Thanks for responding so quickly. I'll take care of it. -- JSharp (talk) 17:36, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

Response to Meging
Hey JSharp,

The URL that would probably be the best to move everything to is ,since Custom Bionicles has more files and you won't have to move so many during the merge.-- Seth Laugh Edits  21:04, 28 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Well,BioFanFic only has one admin who is also an admin at Custom Bionicles.He's Crazy-Lihkan38,although he's kind of inactive right now,so I dunno.-- Seth Laugh <span title="It's what I do!">Edits 13:16, 3 June 2008 (UTC)


 * P.S:It seems InterWiki Links are down at the moment.


 * Okay,I'll leave those files at BioFanFic.You can delete that wiki now in about a week,so everyone knows that the wiki has been merged (I'll post a message on the main page)


 * Thanks!--<font style="background:blue" color="white"> Seth <font style="background:blue" color="white">Laugh <font style="background:blue" color="white"><span title="It's what I do!">Edits 21:19, 3 June 2008 (UTC)


 * P.S:Maybe you can post a message on the Sitenotice & Anononotice,too,in case they don't pay attention to the Main Page.

umm
i ask you do to some things in eincyclopedia
 * create namespace call "בית קפה"
 * when i click on the talk button in איןטקסט,איןמילון,איןספר and איןחדש, its create the talk page as new article and no as a new talk page, can you fix it and can you do it for "בית קפה" too?
 * Can you make that "איןספר" logo will be : "EinSefer1.png" and "איןחדש" logo will be "Einhadash.png"

thank you 10:49, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Hi :) I'll take a look at that today. -- JSharp (talk) 17:48, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I've created those custom namespaces for you a while back but I can't seem to find EinSefer1.png for the custom logo. Can you direct me to it? -- JSharp (talk) 22:59, 11 June 2008 (UTC)
 * the image is EinSefer2.png and the URL is: http://images.wikia.com/eincyclopedia/images/2/21/Einsefer2.png

user:דולי ♣ user talk:דולי 14:42, 15 June 2008 (UTC)

Advertising
Does wikia do any "advertisement free" accounts or anything like that for accounts that donate?

Dan901 02:17, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
 * At this time, we have no advertisement free acount options and no account options which require donation as we derive our resources entirely from sold advertising. -- JSharp (talk) 05:17, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

MediaWiki:Spam-whitelist
Manticore> sannse / JSharp - for some reason the default text when creating MediaWiki:Spam-whitelist isn't appearing anymore Manticore: would you mind leaving a note for Jae on his talk page please? got my hands full atm :)

Manticore  (talk)  08:55, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Hi there Manticore, I'm sorry it took me so long to reply to you. I'm currently out of the office, but I'll try to look into your issue as soon as possible. -- JSharp (talk) 05:18, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Handled in IRC (NOTE) -- JSharp (talk) 23:01, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

From 'Metal Gear' to 'Metal Gear Wiki'
Hi JSharp, I need your help about changing the main ' ' of the Spanish Metal Gear. It is currently 'Metal Gear', but well.. now I want to change because it's better with the 'wiki' there. I want change 'Metal Gear' to 'Metal Gear Wiki'. Can you get it, please? Thanks, 13:32, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I see it's been done already :) Please let me know if you require any other assistance. -- JSharp (talk) 23:00, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

Installing MediaWiki
Hey JSharp,

I was wondering if you could help me install MediaWiki 1.12.0 to my website, Oracle Nui.The guides at MediaWiki.org are to complicated for me,so can you give me some simple instructions?Or,I can give you my FTP credentials so you can do it for me (if the above doesn't work;I'll e-mail them to you so no one else sees them).Please help me!

P.S:I DO have a lot of access to my site,even though it is on free web hosting (the hosting service I use,Zymic is actually pretty good for a free hosting service)

--<font style="background:blue" color="white"> Seth <font style="background:blue" color="white">Laugh <font style="background:blue" color="white"><span title="It's what I do!">Edits 22:25, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
 * While I would love to help you set up an independent wiki site, I have a responsibility to the Wikia community to spend as much time possible here working on wikis hosted on Wikia. Perhaps in some time I will be able to help you more personally. However, I'd be happy to help you with any specific configuration questions when I am available and am not working on Wikia projects. To reach me in my off time, just leave me a note at wikipedia:User talk:JSharp, but note that I may not be able to respond right away. -- JSharp (talk) 23:02, 11 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Well,Okay,but can you do me a different favor,then?(Sorry to bug you more)Can you install The MediaWiki Extension IRC Chat to Custom Bionicles?Again,sorry for bugging you again,I don't mean to waste your time.--<font style="background:blue" color="white"> Seth <font style="background:blue" color="white">Laugh <font style="background:blue" color="white"><span title="It's what I do!">Edits 22:31, 11 June 2008 (UTC)
 * No, it's no bother :) I've filed a feature request for you, but it may be some time before it's reviewed. -- JSharp (talk) 17:55, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

Please remove Scientology advertisements from Liberapedia
Thank you for offering to take up the issue of Scientology advertisements on Liberapedia. These advertisements have appeared regularly on articles like the one on Scientology. They also appeared on the userpage of User:Proxima Centauri. They started appearing round about the time she had this revision. She started writing material opposing Scientology after the advertisements started on her userpage. She modified her userpage, gradually adding more material opposing Scientology. Scientology advertisements continued intermittently. She modified her userpage like this. The Scientology advertisements disappeared temporarily. Complaints about Scientology advertisements when there were none looked ridiculous so she modified her userpage  yet again. Scientology advertisements reappeared and have continued since then. It doesn’t look like the work of automatic computer software. It looks more like a human being reading and responding to what was on the userpage. Ajuk doesn’t like this either. See User:Proxima Centauri’s talk page. I note that the advertisements higher up on the page are by Scientologists. The more objective material is lower down.

More criticism of Scientology by an academic from Carnegie University. These advertisements encourage people to get manipulated and “Brainwashed” by Scientology. They are against Liberal Principles and should not be on the Liberapedia website. Barbara Shack 18:42, 11 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Thank you for voicing your concern. Advertising placements on Wikia are determined in just about every case completely automatically and without input from Wikia specifically (i.e. by our advertising networks and partners). If you do see an objectionable ad, please gather the information detailed here and report it to us at community@wikia.com and we'll be happy to consider your request. -- JSharp (talk) 17:08, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

Ogg player
Hello, Jsharp. My request for the ogg player is for the Final Fantasy Wiki. Please contact me at my talk page there, and I'll show you around, thanks :) Bluer 06:20, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

Final Fantasy Wiki Searchbar
I wanted to remove the coding in MediaWiki:Common.js so that the Final Fantasy Wiki searchbar will show images, and nothing else. Presently, if you click on the image it will bring you to the related article. But it's frustrating when I'm trying to use the searchbar and somehow clicked on the image instead. Some people suggested I set the focus on to the input text field so that it stays there even as the javascript loads, but I read the documentation and still couldn't understand how to do it myself. Please help :) Bluer 09:37, 14 June 2008 (UTC)

JavaScrip issues at English Dofus
Hey JSharp wonder if you could help us we have been using wookipedias JS in the with their preloads and with their navigational trick at the main page, currently due to Monaco 3.0 im not very concern about the navigational trick that its currently not working but the preloads im seen unable to make it work i have double check againts wookipedias JS and the differences they have from our code with theirs should not justify the issue, recently the English dofus had to move to a new URL dont know if thats where the issue started since i now rarely use the preloads for example for summary but many of my users where actively using it, think you could take a look and see what is happening? the code is located in to pages MediaWiki:Common.js MediaWiki:Functions.js and MediaWiki:Edittools

Thanks --Cizagna (Talk) 00:23, 15 June 2008 (UTC)

make that monobook stay default in eincyclopedia
our skin need to be like wikipedia, and anyway the new skin not look good, and the things that work on monobook dont work on it. 13:01, 15 June 2008 (UTC)

Please remove "W0W Items for Sale" from WoWWiki ad rotation
The following ad keeps showing up in the WoWWiki ad rotation:
 * W0W Items for Sale
 * Mss Mts in the AH? Cme to Hre, Online Mats Site for W0W, 24/7 Help
 * w&#119;w.it&#101;&#109;stor&#101;s.co&#109;

This ad is from an item seller which violates Blizzard Entertainment's policy and risks WoWWiki's status as an official fan site. --Fandyllic 23:43, 15 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I also sent an email to community@wikia.com, but that seems a dumb way to make a request. It seems like a customer service black hole. --Fandyllic 00:05, 16 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks for sending that e-mail, I'm currently working on going through them :) I'll forward your request onto our advertising controller. -- JSharp (talk) 17:36, 17 June 2008 (UTC)