Forum:Video embed tool - new feature!



Adding cool media to your wiki just got easier. There is a new Add Video icon on your toolbar right next to the Add Picture icon that allows you to easily embed videos from around the web onto any wiki page.

Adding videos and images makes pages more dynamic and gives readers a way to dive even deeper into a topic, without ever leaving your wiki. Videos, such as how-tos, game walkthroughs, TV episode clips, and movie trailers, are the perfect complement to the information and guides already on your wiki. Try it out by adding an image or video to your user page now and let us know what you think!

If you have any questions, you can find more information on the help page.

Thanks, Wikia Community Team



Please add feedback below, thanks!


 * Please note the extension is currently undergoing further development, so if something is missing, we may already be planning on adding it :)
 * If you would like this turned off at your wiki, please put in a request via Special:Contact

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Feedback
It's a ridiculously awesome tool. How difficult will it be to add different video sites in the future? Not that any of those are limiting, just wondering. And what happens to a video if it's taken off it's main site? How does it show up on the wiki? HUGE Thanks for this! :)

&mdash; Nathan (Peteparker) (Earth-1218) (talk &bull; contribs &bull; email) 18:28, 4 February 2009 (UTC)


 * I've seen that happen on YouTube before on other sites, and it just comes up with a "this video is unavailable" message when you press play. I haven't used it yet, but nice feature! --YOWUZA TALK 2 ME! 18:38, 4 February 2009 (UTC)


 * I don't think we have anything specific to deal with removed videos at the moment, but you will be able to upload/overwrite new versions of videos in the next version. 19:17, 4 February 2009 (UTC)


 * I didn't mean on Wikia, on othe sites I've seen that. --YOWUZA  TALK 2 ME! 19:31, 4 February 2009 (UTC)


 * Yeah, I think it just says "unavailable" in the embed ... but I meant if that happens to a video that's embedded on your wiki you will soon be able to update the video page to use a different video (just like updating images). 20:08, 4 February 2009 (UTC)


 * Works great for me, I never used to use video in articles until now. Hunterj | My talk 18:36, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

Great idea. Loved the new feture and thanks. - Luvingazula - Talk 18:47, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

Great. That's what I was waiting for. thanks --byggxx 19:13, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

I just tested it on the Bandipedia snadbox and it seems to work: http://crashbandicoot.wikia.com/wiki/Bandipedia:Sandbox


 * Pretty good: makes it much easier to upload videos.--Pig house Talk 19:49, 4 February 2009 (UTC)


 * I don't see the buttons anywhere. AJUK 21:03, 4 February 2009 (UTC)


 * Have you got the Help:Edit toolbar disabled?  22:37, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

I take it this won't be optional. If there's a choice, I'd rather disable it. We have a neutrality policy on the wiki I help run, and this raises concerns about certain users filling pages with videos that are motivated by favouritism (i.e. -- "favourite couples"). Think I might need to expand the policy now. -- James26 14:52, 5 February 2009 (UTC)


 * The extension allowed the same thing - but no problem with wikis asking for it to be disabled: just put in a request via Special:Contact. 16:36, 5 February 2009 (UTC)

I really like the new feature, Thanks! - Zukofan - don't be shy, just ask me something 06:05, 6 February 2009 (UTC)

Missing Skins
Would it be too much trouble for them to add this to the Monobook skin's ToolBar too? I'm sure the Monaco skins are well designed and all but I found them too obstructing and distracting compared to the simplicity of Mono. Thank You! --ilr(04,Feb.'09)
 * I second that. --Michaeldsuarez (Talk) (Deeds) 01:15, 5 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Monobook plz! RT  08:06, 5 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Monaco is the main focus of our support, but it may be possible to add it to Monobook too. Will investigate, but no promises though. 16:23, 5 February 2009 (UTC)

We have a basic special page upcoming that should alleviate having to switch skins all the time to add new videos. We can't add the popup stuff as the relevant code isn't on the Monobook skin, unfortunately. 17:52, 5 February 2009 (UTC)
 * w00t, Thx! ...whatever gets us Close --ilr

Interface Localization
It seems that there are no MediaWiki namespace pages to translate interface messages. Are there any way to do it?-- Tommy6 helper（Talk/FFXI/Anipedia+M+N/Scratchpad）07:41, 6 February 2009 (UTC)


 * Hey Tommy6. They're called  on messaging. If you need any help, just contact me (i.e. per Skype avatar-1). --Avatar 08:00, 6 February 2009 (UTC)

New sites
Any idea when www.archive.org will be added? --Kirk 18:57, 4 February 2009 (UTC)


 * It's on our list, but no ETA atm. (Nice name btw ;) 19:17, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

Button position
Interesting Idea, Not sure if its much use to me yet. But as video links are getting more common on other sites suitable material could probably be embedded in the wikis pages in some instances.

But can the Add Image button be moved back to be the last button, in place of the video one on the edit bar ? As I'm currently adding some of the 1000 of photos I've got to the Tractor wiki, It was a lot easier with the image button as last one. (the video buttons appeared and disappeared several time today ? Can the upload speed in loader be speeded up ? (BTW the new "improved" Image is far better than it was with the new options for copy right) Can the caption edit window/strip be made a bit longer ? - BulldozerD11 19:48, 4 February 2009 (UTC)


 * We found a bug earlier today which meant it was briefly removed. The icon should now be a permanent addition though.
 * OK - I thought it had come and gone a few times
 * The icon position is unlikely to change though, as images are a "higher" priority feature. It is fairly likely new buttons will be added in future, so we don't really want to keep shuffling stuff around.
 * If Images are highest priority they should be the right most button (with video to the left) ??
 * Glad you like the improved image uploader, we're pretty proud of it too!
 * Regarding upload speeds in general, it possible - but it would be part of wider efficiency improvements, which is a constant battle. Over time it should improve.
 * Finally, the caption width - fair point, I shall put in a request.
 * Thanks
 * Thanks! 20:05, 4 February 2009 (UTC)


 * Thanks for prompt reply Kirkburn - BulldozerD11 01:28, 5 February 2009 (UTC)

Great, questions...
Does this mean the tags will stop being supported? Should all YouTube tags be replaced with these new ones?

Also it would be cool if while one was sliding the width bar, it actually resized the video in real time. -- LordTBT Talk! 19:50, 4 February 2009 (UTC)


 * This is intended to eventually replace the youtube extension, but it's not going anywhere for quite a while given how much it is used. Hopefully we can get everybody using this new tool instead :)


 * Regarding resizing the video in real-time, this did come up during development. Currently it's not done to keep it simple, but it's possible it could be added at a later point. 20:01, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

Love it!
The ability to add the myriad highly useful scientific videos from around the web to a science wiki is one of the greatest additions to these wikis. Worked first time. Thanks. See it here caseyd 00:09, 5 February 2009 (UTC)

Great Job
Keep up the good work! --Jack Spiral1 00:36, 5 February 2009 (UTC)

Great
I like it! – except could you make the icon button blue not green so it matches the other buttons. Thanks! Lombax Jerk | My talk 01:07, 5 February 2009 (UTC)

Monobook
Can you make a special page for this? I keep having to switch to Monaco in order to upload videos. Other than that, great job; I've always wanted to format videos in the same ways as you would images. --Michaeldsuarez (Talk) (Deeds) 01:13, 5 February 2009 (UTC)
 * 2nd that. Or just add it into the Monobook bar. &mdash; [[Image:BalisticSig.png]] 01:31, 5 February 2009 (UTC)


 * See . 15:18, 9 February 2009 (UTC)

Wookieepedia needs this turned off
We had the YouTube extension disabled long ago and didn't expect an evil clone of the YouTube extension to infect our wiki. See starwars:Forum:SH_Archive/YouTube where no less than Angela herself informed us that we had been freed from this nonsense. -- Darth Culator  (Talk) 01:17, 5 February 2009 (UTC)


 * You always want new features disabled... :) Lombax Jerk | My talk 05:39, 5 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Well, this is a feature that should be disabled there; they've made the decision not to have videos a long time ago. --Michaeldsuarez (Talk) (Deeds) 13:54, 5 February 2009 (UTC)

As ever, it's optional. I have now set it to false on Wookieepedia. I don't see what's evil about allowing people to add videos, anyway. They're just moving images. 16:15, 5 February 2009 (UTC)
 * The difference is attitude. Wookieepedia feels that if this feature was allowed, it'll be misused. Wookieepedia prides itself as being a encyclopedia, and it wants to remain encyclopedic. --Michaeldsuarez (Talk) (Deeds) 16:58, 5 February 2009 (UTC)


 * Well, Wikipedia is starting to allow video usage now. Of course, I realise it can be misused, but so can images. Anyway, naturally it is your choice :) 17:55, 5 February 2009 (UTC)

Can't get Metacafe.com video default size when embedded
Embedded videos are wonderful. I want to add another embedded video to this page:
 * http://cannabis.wikia.com/wiki/Toronto,_Ontario,_Canada

I want to embed a Metacafe.com video at its default size.

Please see this video file page:
 * http://cannabis.wikia.com/wiki/Video:Toronto_2006_Global_Marijuana_March

It illustrates the problems I am having doing this. It seems that the width setting defaults to


 * width="300"

I want the width setting to default to the default size. I think videos look best and sharpest at their default sizes. I also think that they are less of a load on servers being that they don't have to be converted to another size. --Timeshifter 03:13, 5 February 2009 (UTC)


 * This is intentional: as the different embeds use many different default sizes (and we're planning on over twenty different sources), it could result in very inconsistent pages if everything chose its own size.
 * You can still redefine the sizes of videos with the width parameter, and in the next release the video page (like will show the "default" embed size under the video so it's easy to find out.  16:32, 5 February 2009 (UTC)


 * OK. I see how for most users they need to know that when they put brackets around a file name in video space they get consistent results. Is there any way I can figure out myself what the video width is here?: . Right-clicking the video pulls up Flash settings, but no pixel width. It would be nice in the next release to have some kind of checkbox for "native size" or "original size" or something so I don't have to think about adding the width parameter. --Timeshifter 01:36, 6 February 2009 (UTC)


 * The native width will show on the video page just under the video, like on image pages. I'll pass on the note about some way of using native embed width (possibly |frame| I guess). 14:34, 6 February 2009 (UTC)


 * Thanks. Some ideas: How about width="original" or width="native" or something... --Timeshifter 03:47, 7 February 2009 (UTC)


 * frame|

might work if it could use the original video width. Here are some related image formatting experiments below using |frame|

I used clear between them to stop any overlap. It looks like width sizing is not possible with |frame|

I clarified the |frame| info in Help:Displaying images to make it align with wikipedia:Wikipedia:Extended image syntax, and make it clear that sizing does not work with |frame|





 







 







 







That's it for now. --Timeshifter 10:30, 8 February 2009 (UTC)


 * Pretty :P Current request is that |frame| will show videos at their "native" width - that is, the size as chosen by the video embed site. 15:17, 9 February 2009 (UTC)

Need layout option for no text wrap around a video
  In the video display options menu (after clicking the insert-video toolbar icon) there are only left and right alignment options. With both of those options text wraps around the video. It is the same as for images:

 

Could you also add the "none" option as for images. See the image wikicode below.

 

By the way

 

produces this:



So the default setting for images if no alignment setting is selected is "none".

That is different from the settings for videos where if no alignment setting is selected then the default setting is "left". See an example here:
 * http://cannabis.wikia.com/wiki/Video:Toronto_2006_Global_Marijuana_March

Adding "none" to the video wikicode has no effect. It still defaults to left alignment with text wrap around the video. --Timeshifter 06:58, 5 February 2009 (UTC)


 * See the problem in action here: -- LordTBT  Talk! 13:50, 5 February 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for pointing this out: we're taking a look. 16:43, 5 February 2009 (UTC)

Copyright tags
Where do we sit with regard to copyright, do we need to tag these videos (as is done with images)? Or do not need to worry as nothing is actually uploaded to the individual wikias, as it's just an embedded video player with the videos hosted on YouTube (or where ever else)? --Tangerineduel 10:02, 5 February 2009 (UTC)


 * I am not a lawyer, but since these are embedded videos and not locally hosted, I'm fairly sure the onus is on the hosting websites. 16:34, 5 February 2009 (UTC)

I like it very much. Bioniclemaster724 12:24, 5 February 2009 (UTC)

Awesome!
Thanks for this cool feature- makes it easier than before to embed videos! Will make the pages more exciting! --Anupam 14:40, 5 February 2009 (UTC)

O.K.
It's okay, but it doesn't work on mine, because I don't have the right Flash Player. :( Ugh.

(Prissymis 19:40, 5 February 2009 (UTC))

Awesome

Thanks Alot it helps me put stuff on and in. User:King Zant of the Twili

How to add caption and fix the placement at the same time
Let's say I want this:

This is the text............ Video here with caption! Another text................

But it doesn't work. You see! The video can't be fixed at the location I want if I want to display caption.

Is there any way I can do this? If not, please add new options to allow this!

The actual result:

This is the text............

thumb|left|YouTube video example

Another text................

--Comeon 10:01, 6 February 2009 (UTC)


 * This is how images work - we want to make it as consistent as possible. We're working on adding some more of the image-related syntax that could help with this, but for now  is your friend :) 14:51, 6 February 2009 (UTC)



clear also works if the wiki in question has installed the template. --Timeshifter 10:35, 8 February 2009 (UTC)

Concerning new video tool...
So, i have tried this new tool to embedd videos and i think its little incomplete. Not bad tho, but its still faster and easier for me to embedd my videos by copy-paste similar content from other wikia pages and then just copy-paste my video URL and YouTube id number from another open Tab. When embedding a video with this tool, the content in the edit page needs still a lot of editing to make it clear, right and adequate. IMO -- CryonBrion (Talk) 11:35, 6 February 2009 (UTC)

a problem
There is a problem with this tool in Hebrew. The video is on the display options and on the "insert" button, so it's impossible to add video in this way.


 * I'll pass it on, thanks for the report. 18:39, 6 February 2009 (UTC)

Thank You
Makes things so much easier.

Thanks,

AsgarothXc 15:43, 6 February 2009 (UTC)

Wikitubia spotlight
Is it's spotlight related to this new feature (I'm the last active admin there but I retired)... --YOWUZA TALK 2 ME! 15:58, 6 February 2009 (UTC)


 * Just an opportune moment, I guess. I don't personally know of anything specific. 18:51, 6 February 2009 (UTC)
 * I decided to return as a result of the spotlight. --YOWUZA TALK 2 ME! 17:01, 7 February 2009 (UTC)

Report
Thanks a lot for the update on your Video embedded tool feature. I will try using it once I get the hang of it. By the way, I tried to upload an image very recently in the article on "The Apostolic Constitutions," but it got blocked for spam.

Thanks to Kathleen, however, for uploading the image for the "Antioch" article.

Jdgray 18:24, 6 February 2009 (UTC)


 * Thanks :) Regarding the image, which wiki was this, and did the error message give anything more specific? 18:51, 6 February 2009 (UTC)

Thank You Wikia!
Great! This new feature Will lead to some seriously Awsome Articles!

Wikia Fan Forever, Cd95 V2 22:04, 6 February 2009 (UTC)

This is so COOL!
... to quote Anupam ... "Thanks for this cool feature- makes it easier than before to embed videos! Will make the pages more exciting! --Anupam 14:40, 5 February 2009 (UTC)" Thanks! This is going to be awesome. :) Will ccna certification training kits

Videos still playing after deletion
Today, I had to go through and delete several videos added to Redwall. However, after deletion, the page where the code is to play the video still works. The videos still play just fine. -- LordTBT Talk! 01:39, 7 February 2009 (UTC)
 * I think that, unlike Images, when you delete a Video: page you are deleting only the wiki page, but not the database record that makes a relation between the video name and the URL of the video. This should not happen, since some problems may occur (primary key errors if the same video is uploaded again?). --Ciencia Al Poder (talk) -WikiDex 19:59, 7 February 2009 (UTC)
 * So you're saying if someone uploads several videos unnecessary, and then an admin goes and deletes them, the admin will also have to find all the pages they are located on, and remove those links too? That's a lot. -- <font color="Green">LordTBT <font color="Green" size="2">Talk! 04:31, 8 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Yes. Unless Wikia fix it :) See also the message below this --Ciencia Al Poder (talk) -WikiDex 19:02, 8 February 2009 (UTC)


 * Yeah, just confirmed and reported this issue - will get it sorted. LordTBT, wouldn't you delete the redlinks most of the time anyway? 15:10, 9 February 2009 (UTC)


 * You mean the red links to a deleted video? Sure, but the point is if someone uploads an inappropriate video, it's still playable after deletion - thus what is the purpose of deleting a video at all?
 * Another issue I've found - I deleted a video because I selected the wrong link from YouTube. Then I uploaded a new video with the same name (after deleting), yet Wikia still displays a file history despite the deletion: -- <font color="Green">LordTBT  <font color="Green" size="2">Talk! 08:27, 10 February 2009 (UTC)


 * That's probably a result of the same thing - will check after the deletion bug is fixed. 16:26, 10 February 2009 (UTC)

Not showing in WhatLinksHere
Videos embedded into a wiki page are not shown in Special:WhatLinksHere. That's really a bug, since the pros of having them in a new namespace is that you can track what videos are uploaded and which pages use them, so if we need to remove or change them is easy to find them, but now they're like a youtube tag --Ciencia Al Poder (talk) -WikiDex 19:48, 7 February 2009 (UTC)


 * Thanks - passing it on. 15:13, 9 February 2009 (UTC)