User talk:Sannse

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Please add new messages to the bottom, thanks :) -- sannse (talk)

World: namespace for Animepedia
Sannse, could you add a "World" namespace to the Animepedia? If you want the technical reasons, keep reading... ~ NOTASTAFF Daniel Friesen (DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire) (talk) (tricks) (current topic) Nov 29, 2007 @ 04:35 (UTC)

I've been rethinking some of my methods and setups for the technical aspects of the top-level Wikia ACG wiki.

I needed some technical pages for each world, for tweaking things like category names and other I've been using a set of subpages for those purposes (Like Worldname/Tech/Info/Category for the category naming) but I've realized there are a few issues with that. Other than the facts that I need to do extra DPL stuff to hide them from showing up in lists, and they also clutter up the Allpages for the Main namespace. They actually alter the page counts and mess most things up for counting. And the method of using for templates that are meant for a certain world doesn't seam like such a good idea anymore.

Looking over how Semantic MediaWiki did things, I have seen that it would probably be a good idea for me to actually split that apart to work in multiple of the namespaces instead of just the main. Partly actually putting templates in the Template namespace, and keeping CSS in the MediaWiki namespace. And as for the technical pages, like how SMW did it those would be put in a special namespace. (SMW Has Type:, etc... namespaces to modify how SMW works; I'd be using a World: namespace in a similar way).

It would be best to organize things now, or else the wiki could end up messed up if the bad format is used in the meantime. I'd just prefix things with World: but then that would mean that a SQL query would probably half to be done. So mind adding the World: namespace now, it's useful even now because the templates already are using techniques that use the organization. ~ NOTASTAFF Daniel Friesen (DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire) (talk) (tricks) (current topic) Nov 29, 2007 @ 04:35 (UTC)


 * Hi Dantman, that's all done. I probably didn't need to delete and restore the pages starting in "world", I was just being cautious ;) -- sannse (talk) 09:33, 30 November 2007 (UTC)


 * Yup, thanks. Nah, you didn't need to worry about that. It actually doesn't matter that they are deleted because the rows still exist with the same ns-id/db_key pair. The technical reason why pages disappear is just because the pages with the ns-id override the ones prefixed with the db_key. Basically everything is still there, it's just that the new namespace makes another set of pages display instead, but that only happens with "Namespacename:". ~ NOTASTAFF Daniel Friesen (DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire) (talk) (tricks) (current topic) Nov 30, 2007 @ 17:12 (UTC)

RS Wiki
Hello, you'll remember me as Total Rune from the RuneScape Wikia, who you did a checkuser on awhile back and told all the sysops to ban me on the spot due to vandalism. However, you only know half the story.

My account on the Wikia, Total Rune, was created by my brother Nicholas. He logged onto my laptop while I was at work and took pictures and made the account pretending to be me, which he has done on other websites and such and has gotten me banned from. He vandalised and got himself banned. I got ahold of him and the password to the account and I switched it to something Nicholas did not now, and I took control of the Total Rune account. I requested an unblock and explained myself and got the unblock.

However, several months later, problems arose as many Wikia members began prodding me and poking their noses into my personal life, some of which even just trying to get me banned. I finally snapped and vandalised a few times to get myself banned on purpose. However my brother still wanted to edit the wiki.

Now we have a wireless router and a wireless internet connection, which is shared by my laptop, my sister's laptop, my brother's laptop and my parents desktop computer. He returned to the RuneScape Wikia and continued to vandalise several times, getting himself banned alot. I found out about a Proxy website, located here from a user on the RuneScape Wikia, User:Blankothe3rd. My brother saw the site and began using it to get around his bans and continue to vandalize.

However, because of your checkuser and such, the sysops on the Wikia started labelling every vandalism from my IP addresses/network as "Total". They would just write "Total" as the block reason. I admit, I did use a proxy once or twice to leave an apology to User:Clv309, but she continued to hold a grudge against me, as does every other wikia user.

Because of your checkuser, and the Wikia continuing to mis-label every vandalism from my home as being done by me, which they were not, that ruined my reputation in RuneScape itself. I had people insulting me and calling me "noob" and "idiot" and "scammer" because of them. But these personal attacks ingame have since ceased, thank god.

I have already spoken with Angela about doing something to get the sysops on the RuneScape Wikia to stop claiming that every vandalism from my IP addresses/network was done by me, because to be truthful, 99% of the vandalisms from my network are my brother.

I feel I am owed an apology from the sysops on the RuneScape Wikia for damaging my reputation by falsely claiming all vandalisms from my home network are me. Also, I wish to see that the sysops on the RS Wiki stop putting "Total Rune" or "Total" as the reason for whenever they block a vandalizing IP from my network, because it's not me, it's my idiot brother. Thank you for taking the time to read this. 69.159.56.155 07:33, 29 November 2007 (UTC) (Total Rune, formerly from the RuneScape Wikia)


 * If you aren't interested in contributing to the wiki, I suggest you just move along. Labelling every instance of IP vandalism as being from the same user isn't a good idea, but it's quite possible the pattern of vandalism is similar for each IP, and thus the admins there are assuming it is you. I wouldn't wait around too long for an apology, because it's clear there are major issues between you and the administrators (and probably the community at large), which frankly, were instigated by you. As Angela said, there are many other wikis you can get involved with. -- Manticore  Talk 09:13, 29 November 2007 (UTC)


 * In fact the staff member who did the checkuser was user:Rieke Hain. See the page here.  My personal favorite is the line:


 * "There is definitely no point in believing those claims regarding "brothers and sisters" and "I didn't note that they vandalized". CheckUser results are pretty clear (logged in as A, logged out, logged in as B, logged out, logged in as A again … all within minutes)."


 * --Wowbagger421 00:56, 30 November 2007 (UTC)


 * Checkuser does not show login/logout information. -- 07:08, 30 November 2007 (UTC)

Checkuser can't tell who is on the other end of a keyboard. But if there are a succession of edits from the same IP (which usually means the same computer, if the time-frame is narrow) then it's generally likely that it's the same person, and that changes of username are the same person logging and and out. Of course, there are variations to this, including a shared IP on a home network. And it is possible for siblings to be editing from the same IP and one of them causing problems. But the "my bother did it" explanation has become something of a cliche. We hear it so many times that it becomes difficult to believe.

In the end, it becomes a matter of what is best for the wiki, and the wiki community. If that means blocking an IP because one person using it is causing problems, then so be it. Even if that means others on that IP as inconvenienced.

Total Rune, I would agree with the advice you've been given to just move on to something else. There is no way for the admins to know if you are telling the truth about your brother, and little reason for them to feel they should trust you at this point. But I think the real key to this is off-line. If your brother is causing these problems then perhaps it's time you asked your parents to intervene. It's only at your end of connection that his behaviour can be addressed and he can be stopped from causing you difficulties. After all, it's his behaviour that is causing this, not the admins'. -- sannse (talk) 09:50, 30 November 2007 (UTC)


 * I have moved on, I keep getting shown block log entries from the RS Wiki by my bro over msn, and I'm getting pissed off at them for always labelling his vandalisms as "Total". Also, I'm not gonna bug my parents over his little vandalisms. Heck, I told him when I got banned to have fun. But whatever, as long as they stop labelling his vandalisms as "Total" I'll be happy. 69.159.56.155 22:26, 30 November 2007 (UTC)


 * At this point it's up to you. There is no reason for the admins to believe you, and every reason given your behaviour for them not to trust you.  If you want to change things, then it is up to you to stop the vandalism coming from your home. -- sannse (talk) 11:43, 4 December 2007 (UTC)

Bot status request
Can I ask you for bot status? I'm an administrator-burocrat of Nonciclpedia (italian parodistic encyclopedia). I've created my bot "HeavyBot", could it receive the bot status? Its presence on the "last modifies" page is getting annoying... :-) --User:Heavymachinegun 12:01, 1 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Hi, Could you tell me whether the Nonciclpedia community is aware of this request, and agree with the change? Thanks -- sannse (talk) 12:04, 4 December 2007 (UTC)

shoutbox on quartz bugs

 * format will change from timestamp to current date at certain times of the day
 * parses apostrophes like this: "it\'s don\'t won\'t"
 * users online is stuck at 357

-- 22:15, 2 December 2007 (UTC)


 * Thanks Charitwo. Do you have more info on the first one, It's not something I've been able to see happen yet.  Thanks again -- sannse (talk) 12:12, 4 December 2007 (UTC)


 * It appears to have been fixed? Haven't seen it happen today, I saw TOR's sock poking around in there, maybe whatever he did fixed that issue. However the latter 2 still remain. -- 02:24, 5 December 2007 (UTC)


 * Looks like they've got the number of users sorted too. The other is in the system, so they should squash it soon. -- sannse (talk) 10:35, 5 December 2007 (UTC)


 * Still says 357 to me. -- 04:58, 6 December 2007 (UTC)


 * Got it! I didn't see that each wiki shows the number differently and 357 was on ffxi. I've added a screenshot to the bug report.  Thanks Charitwo -- sannse (talk) 18:23, 6 December 2007 (UTC)

Can't manage to open a Hebrew wiki in Wikia
I have had two very good ideas for potential Hebrew wikis which I am sure would be very sucessfull amongst the hebrew speaking users on the web. Unfortunatly, I havn't been able to figure out how to open a Hebrew Interface Wiki in which the text would show from right-to-left so far... at one point I even thought that it was impossible and that all the Hebrew wikis on Wikia didn't have a Hebrew right-to-left interface and in the best scenarios you could only add a div dir="RTL".. but just now I found out that one of the most popular Hebrew wikis on the web (eincyclopedia.wikia.com) is hosted in wikia so I know for sure that it got to be possible.. any ideas on how I could do this (please try to be as specific as you can)? --24.12.234.123 06:34, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Hi. All you need to do is request a wiki on the Requests Wikia, and be sure to select "Hebrew" from the language list.  If you want to try out editing, we have a right-to-left scratchpad at Right to Left Scratchpad, but I'd suggest just requesting the wiki - that way the default interface will be in Hebrew -- sannse (talk) 12:31, 4 December 2007 (UTC)

STEU project - short name
Hi Sannse; dunno if you remember me--Todd from Star Trek Expanded Universe. Anyway, judging from this, I'm going out on a limb and taking a guess that you might be able to help. Simply put, can we get our name shortened to just, rather than the existing  ? The previous has become our de facto project namespace, the one everyone commonly uses (and it's the namespace on our "official" pages). If you can help, great!, thank you, and have a wonderful holiday season. :) --Sasoriza 22:54, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Hi, yes I can do this. But the old and new namespaces must be empty for this to work.  So you need to move all pages starting with Star Trek Expanded Universe: or Star Trek Expanded Universe Database: out of the way.  The best thing to do is to move them to something like Temporary: and then delete all the redirects.  Then you can move them back once the new name is set up.   Let me know when you are ready, or if you have any problem.  Regards -- sannse (talk) 10:48, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks for responding. I'm in the process of doing this. Does a similar move have to be performed on the main page, as well as talk pages under the above namespaces? --Sasoriza 00:28, 7 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Everything's set. All pages under the above namespaces have been moved under a  prefix. (+ I backed up the main page, just in case.) Just to reiterate, we'd like "Database" dropped from the project name, so that it reads "Star Trek Expanded Universe". Please let me know when we can move it all back after the name change, and thanks in advance for your time, help & attention! :) --Sasoriza 07:42, 7 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Is there any progress being made on this? I'm perfectly willing to be patient, but we've got some community members getting antsy... --Sasoriza 21:28, 8 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Sorry about that! The weekend distracted me.  All done now, and I'll help with the moves back by way of apology ;)  -- sannse (talk) 20:57, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks again! Much appreciated! Have a great Christmas! --Sasoriza 22:32, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

Where is my wiki ?
http://dragonquestmonsters.wikia.com/wiki/Main_Page
 * Hello, i've created a new wiki here
 * but i have this text : /* Empty */


 * What can I do ?


 * edit:i was running this whealthy wiki for almost two weeks with no problem, and others wiki are still existent, does it mean my wiki has been wiped out ????? -_-

--KevinSephiroth 23:27, 4 December 2007 (UTC)

Hi Kevin, I see the wiki OK, although there are some errors on the page. The technical team have written a fix for this which should be deployed very soon. Sorry about that -- sannse (talk) 11:01, 5 December 2007 (UTC)


 * Well it seems everything is now back to normal! Thank you . --KevinSephiroth 23:09, 5 December 2007 (UTC)

Monobook Ads at Dofus
Hi, sannse thanks for all your help with the monobook ads issue, seems the past few days this has been resolve. Cheers --Cizagna (Talk) 15:52, 6 December 2007 (UTC)


 * I'm glad it's looking better! I can't claim any credit for that though, I'm sorry we couldn't find the problem.  I suspect it may have been a change on the ad server, but it was hard to reproduce :-/  let me or Jae know if it shows up again -- sannse (talk) 18:25, 6 December 2007 (UTC)

Images disappeared
Why have the (non-TeX) images disappeared from w:c:en.math? They don't appear to have been deleted. - dcljr 17:56, 6 December 2007 (UTC)


 * Hi, there was a mistake in the setting for the image directory. I've fixed it now, and images should be visible.    It will take a while for everything to catch up, up to 24 hours.  But after that all should be fine.  Sorry for the problem!  -- sannse (talk) 18:50, 6 December 2007 (UTC)


 * It's fixed, as far as I can see. Thanks. - dcljr 23:45, 6 December 2007 (UTC)

Narutopedia dispuit
Sannse mind getting in on this one? I'm personally getting tired of all the accusations of rants, slander, being uncalm, and threats to be reported. I suppose you could consider this a request for mediation, because this is getting to the point that the Narutopedia alone doesn't have the resources to handle this besides blocks. Don't worry about the debates on Japanese stuff, I've asked Yukichi to handle that bit.

The discussion is at w:c:naruto:Talk:Haku, but the article has been on hold for long enough. Just because of one user debating something that had previously been consensus on both Wikipedia and Narutopedia the ability to improve the article was removed. ~ NOTASTAFF Daniel Friesen (DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire) (talk) (tricks) (current topic) Dec 8, 2007 @ 12:24 (UTC)


 * Ok, my limit of using the spirit of Wikipedia policies to deal with things here has been reached. I've returned to basing things on how they help the wiki. We're basically going along with WP:CIVIL's suggestion of putting a "wall" between the editor and the community. I'm leaving him unblocked for as long as I can, but if he continues reverting good faith edits on the article because they don't follow his statement of keeping the article "gender neutral" I might half to resort to some temp blocks so that other users are still able to improve the article. Could you deal with him? This isn't the kind of thing that the Narutopedia community deals with, and it's likely they'd just opt to block the user if someone else couldn't handle it. I have a feeling that if this were on Wikipedia, it would probably qualify as one of the Lamest edit wars. ~ NOTASTAFF Daniel Friesen (DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire) (talk) (tricks) (current topic) Dec 9, 2007 @ 10:44 (UTC)


 * I don't think this is something I can deal with. This has to be worked on by the community and not by someone coming in to "solve" things.  If this is one person disagreeing with the rest of the community, then that community needs to make some firm decisions and inform him that to continue editing there, he needs to follow the consensus.  That may mean blocking him to demonstrate that he needs to listen to the community - it's sad, but it may be needed.  If there are more varieties of opinion, then the task is to try and reflect them in the article in a way all can nearly be happy with, or to find a way to bring those opinions together.  Perhaps this article will just need to be locked for a while, with changes agreed on the talk page - a bit of a pain, but one way of allowing the general opinion to prevail.


 * I think that learning to deal with this sort of dispute is something most communities go though. And staff interfering is likely to harm the community more than help it.  I'm sorry not to be or more help.  -- sannse (talk) 21:14, 10 December 2007 (UTC)


 * Ok, for now it's a little bit under control. Because he was reverting good faith edits on the article and attacking every comment on the talkpage I temp blocked him and archived the previous discussion. The article is still free for editing by users so that it can be improved, (And trust me this diff shows you how much has been improved, even ignoring what Belive it! added, the article has significantly improved since he was temp blocked). The article is now actually being discussed properly by the existing community only on the talkpage. He'll be unblocked once enough feedback has been added. But if he tries to continue opposing the community and can't accept the consensus then we'll just half to permablock him. ~ NOTASTAFF Daniel Friesen (DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire) (talk) (tricks) (current topic) Dec 11, 2007 @ 06:25 (UTC)

Preference skin not working?
Hi Sannse, any chance of some help with this? : Forum:Preference skin not working?
 * Hi, I've replied there -- sannse (talk) 21:22, 10 December 2007 (UTC)