Forum:Special page disappeared...???

Hi. On my wiki I usually check Special:Activeusers once in a while. Well, I was checking it today, and it says "there is no such special page"...??? I know that this was a special page, and I have found links on other wikis that go to the same page stating there isn't that special page. What happened to it? I thought it was very useful.  Swannie  talk to me 22:06, 29 June 2007 (UTC)


 * Catherine confirmed that Special:Activeusers is down for maintenance, so fear not, it'll be back soon. :) --Jack Phoenix (Contact) 22:21, 29 June 2007 (UTC)


 * I hope that you are right that it is down for maintenance, and I hope that this essential statistic will be back soon. We need this statistic very much in order to have a clear view of how many are the real participatants in our site. IassonBot 14:47, 30 June 2007 (UTC)


 * Phew! Thanks for the notice! :-)  Swannie  talk to me 22:33, 29 June 2007 (UTC)

Special:Listusers should be doing mostly what Activeusers was doing before (although it is ignoring users more than a few months old, bug being worked on). --Splarka (talk) 08:04, 30 June 2007 (UTC)


 * Are you kidding? Listusers has nothing to do with activeusers. Listusers just lists users in alphabetical order no matter how old they are and no matter when they last edit the site, while activeuser lists the most active users in a non alphabetical order. It is a tottaly different statistic. Any operator that has access to the database can simply calculate the active users statistic by executing this simple sql query:


 * SELECT user_touched, user_name FROM user ORDER BY user_touched DESC


 * I really wonder whats the reason you made this statistic a hidden one. IassonBot 14:43, 30 June 2007 (UTC)


 * I am afraid I am not kidding. Special:Listusers is now (correctly) only showing users who have edited in a particular Wikia. This is pretty much the same as Activeusers (which originally was to show only users who had edited on a particular Wikia, as at the time Listusers would show all users on all Wikia). There are some minor differences, such as the 'last edit' indicator (but this itself was buggy, often showing the last log entry rather than the last edit), and various experiments with sort order. Neither is a 'statistic', they are just lists. What are we making hidden? --Splarka (talk) 06:30, 1 July 2007 (UTC)
 * And in case it wasn't clear: Activeusers is probably coming back soon, but until then, just try to live with Special:Listusers. --Splarka (talk) 06:36, 1 July 2007 (UTC)


 * I think there is a clear difference between this and this. If you cannot see the difference then.... For those who can see it, the script that produces activeusers from listusers can be found here IassonBot 14:10, 1 July 2007 (UTC)
 * I really hope Activeusers to come back soon, because, using my script, it takes me half an hour to calculate activeusers from 227 listusers! IassonBot 06:43, 2 July 2007 (UTC)

Not only a special page disappeared, but also some contributors disappeared!
For example, where is Yolfer, a campaigns contributor since 25 October 2006? Can you find him in listusers? And dont answer that he is too old, because here you can see contributors where their last edit dates 5 july 2006. Whats happening here? Can someone explain? IassonBot 12:23, 3 July 2007 (UTC)

And dont assume that Yolfer is the only case. I can find aprox 466 more cases of campaigns contributors that are absent from listusers! IassonBot 12:26, 3 July 2007 (UTC)


 * As said, Special:Activeusers is being fixed; it will be back, so don't worry. :) --Jack Phoenix (Contact) 15:51, 3 July 2007 (UTC)


 * It will be back when? Do you any any idea? The problem has been reported 29 and it is still not solved. IassonBot 21:09, 10 July 2007 (UTC)