User talk:Dopp

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New Layout
I would like to have the new layout that is on Muppets Wiki on Rowlf Fan Club WIki. I know that this probably cannot be done now, but do you have an idea for when it will be available? Mr. Grille (talk page) 19:31, December 26, 2011 (UTC)


 * Hi Mr. Grille! Anything about the layout on Muppet Wiki is available to you on any wiki, but it might take a lot of work to get there. What in particular are you hoping to have? You can also ask in our Founder & Admin Central for support from other members. --Dopp http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb32675/wikia/images/e/e9/WikiaStaff.png (help forum | blog) 16:59, December 27, 2011 (UTC)

Category Redlinks
Thought you may be interested in this extensive diatribe. For a wiki with an organised image category structure, a user who doesn't get the difference between "Day 2: 3:00pm" or "Day 2:3:00pm" or "Day 2: 3:00p.m." or "Day 2: 3pm" or any variation thereof, needs some indication of whether what they're typing is correct or not. Trying to explain about global, personal css code to be put on a separate wiki they're never visited is not really how I want to welcome newbies to the wiki (or to Wikia)-- Category:Acer4666 21:06, December 26, 2011 (UTC)


 * Not only that but on my wiki there are two series in the same universe with the second one called chills vs. vespers. However some people use cahills vs vespers in the wrong place and vice versa. This leads to an abundance of categories that is sure to confuse anons. If anything, remove it for only anons. -- Kangaroopowah  - Talk  17:35, December 27, 2011 (UTC)
 * P.S.: You said you would pass. On czechout'smfeedback on this subject to the product team. What did they think about this.


 * Hi Acer & Kangaroo. When I add a new category, I use the auto-suggest tool to make sure I'm adding the right one. Is part of the issue that Source Mode hasn't been including the auto-suggest tool lately? That, combined with the shift in link color treatment, might be exaccerbating the problem. What do you think?


 * I also know that we haven't yet resolved the bug where categories that are both empty AND uncreated are showing as blue links -- we agree that that case should be red, I believe that fix should be out right after the holidays.


 * I did pass on czechout's long feedback to the product team, and they still feel strongly that the new system is worth keeping, since it simplifies the category creation process. I know you feel differently, and I don't think that debate is worth rehashing in any great detail at this point. But there are still some relevant issues you're raising here, and I appreciate you thinking of the anons and readers. --Dopp http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb32675/wikia/images/e/e9/WikiaStaff.png (help forum | blog) 20:34, December 27, 2011 (UTC)


 * The oldest and best argument against this is the fact that it creates more confusion than it solves. I'd rather the product team simply remove the &action=edit&redlink=1 from red linked categories and keep them red. That solves all issues. Users don't get pushed into an 'edit' screen when viewing the category and the category still 'red flags' as either incorrect or not created or both. Rappy 21:28, December 27, 2011 (UTC)


 * Yeah, I'm not wanting to force a re-hash of the debate, it's just every time this change causes me undue hassle and work (as it had been doing on boxing day then) I'll report it to you, so you can see the effect the change is causing. Sorry for picking you but I seem to remember you were the one debating it with us back when it changed. I will also pass on any time this change has reduced work or confusion. Hopefully all the examples I provide will change the product team's mind. The point is that for images, you type the category into the summary box of the image upload screen, which doesn't have auto-suggest. Also, the usual niggly errors that always happen with auto suggest make it an unreliable alternative to a simple colour indication when a typo has occurred.
 * Rappy's point is good, about just removing you being thrown into an edit screen is enough to make non-existent categories work. I've said it before but I think this should also happen for users without userpages. If I want to see the contributions or talk page of such a user, the new editor has made it even more of a hassle to access them as the tabs have disappeared. In fact, I don't think any red links should throw you straight into an edit screen, as the new editor is so navigation-unfriendly. Stuff like wanting to view deleted pages and stuff is becoming more and more laborious. But they should still all be red!-- Category:Acer4666 21:41, December 27, 2011 (UTC)


 * Here's something a little closer to home, perhaps: this and this. Imagine that on a much larger scale, causing much more unneeded work and unneeded hassle for the admins. Whoever said it "simplifies the category creation process" seemingly misunderstands the change that has happened - this has little to do with the category creation process, rather the aesthetic and navigability of uncreated categories. It seems Wikia is actively against the creation of categories. Comments like that make me think the staff don't even begin to understand the issue here.-- Category:Acer4666 00:54, December 29, 2011 (UTC)


 * " Yeah, I'm not wanting to force a re-hash of the debate, it's just every time this change causes me undue hassle and work (as it had been doing on boxing day then) I'll report it to you, so you can see the effect the change is causing." Ah, okay. Fair point. I'll keep track of it. :) --Dopp http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb32675/wikia/images/e/e9/WikiaStaff.png (help forum | blog)

20:45, December 30, 2011 (UTC)

(Reset Indent) Dopp, there's one more thing you have to consider:Monobook. Whether wikia likes it or not, monobook still exists and people do use it. THis means that when they mess up because they don't have the autosuggest tool, they won't see it because they will probably go to another page to edit, leaving the poor anon or user to start using  that category  instead of the proper, documented one. The users with the js/css that enable hem to see the non-existent categories simply do not have the time nor resources to categorize all of them. Rappy says it best of all "It creates more confusion than it solves". Best, -- Kangaroopowah ( Talk ) 04:04, December 31, 2011 (UTC)

Apologies
HI, im a admin of the Ben 10 Wikis (it's Ben), i apologize for the recent "Ermac" situation, I have been quite inactive these days, i recently came back, and help close the situation... sorry for the other users bringing this to Central. :)  Plasma ( Talk )

18:29, December 27, 2011 (UTC)


 * Thanks, Plasma. :) --Dopp http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb32675/wikia/images/e/e9/WikiaStaff.png (help forum | blog) 20:27, December 27, 2011 (UTC)

Wiki Image Problem
Hi Dopp, just wondered if you could help me with a technical issue reguarding images on the iOS Gaming Wiki. I've been trying to make my Wiki monobook compatible by uploading a Wiki.png file, but for some reason the displayed image is a squashed version of the old logo, and the thumbnail for the current logo displays like I want it to. Thanks, Sam2011 (Talk) 15:27, December 28, 2011 (UTC)
 * Fixed now. Sam2011 (Talk) 18:08, December 29, 2011 (UTC)

Uh... What?
Uh, bro...

You just blocked me from my own wiki (bindingofisaac.wikia.com), which I founded. Excuse me for asking, but... Why? Because I was advertising a wiki? Do you mean the wiki that was the ultimate end goal as the wikia was a stopgap as we amassed funds to move servers? Supported by the user base and by donations! It's not a competitor, it's a direct replacement!

I would like the block to be lifted and my founder status reinstated. This is not what I expected out of Wikia. Lego6245 03:49, December 30, 2011 (UTC)


 * First off, Dopp's female, not a bro. Secondly, Wikia doesn't allow wikis that redirect to off-Wikia sites. It's like going to Burger King and asking them to advertise McDonald's for you. Your only real option is to fork your wiki, in which, both wikis are still active and separate communities. Rappy 18:34, December 30, 2011 (UTC)


 * Thirdly, wikia can block you whenever you want. -- Kangaroopowah ( Talk ) 03:49, December 31, 2011 (UTC)

Message Wall
Hello, I am the Milkman. I was on L.A. Noire Wiki recently, and asked an admin there, The Tom, about his message wall and the notification box in the top right corner. I asked him about it, and I was told to contact the one and only Dopp.

I am a bureaucrat on two wikis, Brutal Legend Wiki and Dante's Inferno Wiki. I would greatly appreciate it if Message Wall could be activated on both of these wikis. Thank you for you time and have a great dopp.

--The Milkman | I always deliver. 20:35, December 30, 2011 (UTC)


 * Hi Milkman! It's enabled on both wikis -- enjoy! And remember two things:


 * 1) we'll be adding more improvements to the feature in a few weeks (which is also when we'll add it to Wikia Labs), so be patient about weird stuff and changes.


 * 2) we can disable it at any time, but any conversations that are happening on the wall will be hidden when we do so.


 * have fun! --Dopp http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb32675/wikia/images/e/e9/WikiaStaff.png (help forum | blog) 21:12, December 30, 2011 (UTC)

Name of the Ben 10 wiki
Dopp, you could update all MediaWiki of the pt-br.ben10.wikia.com? For example, MediaWiki were like the beginning of the wiki, it has been created now. I wanted you to upgrade all at once, could you? pt-br.ben10.wikia.com --[ Caio1478] [ Discussão][ Contribuições]Planeta Ben 10Ben 10 Respostas 01:41, December 31, 2011 (UTC)


 * Hi Caio, I'm not sure I understand what you're asking for. Do you want us to refresh the cache for Special Pages? I've submitted a request to have that handled. If you're asking for something else, can you be more specific or give me a link and tell me how it should be different? Thanks. --Dopp http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb32675/wikia/images/e/e9/WikiaStaff.png (help forum | blog) 23:17, December 30, 2011 (UTC)


 * Dopp, a link to MediaWiki this is outdated: http://pt-br.ben10.wikia.com/wiki/MediaWiki:Chat-user-parted --[ Caio1478] [ Discussão]</li>[ Contribuições]</li>Planeta Ben 10</li>Ben 10 Respostas</li></ul></li></ul> 01:41, December 31, 2011 (UTC)