User talk:Sovq

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Calendar
I was thinking something like this:

Today is ,  , . Today's Daily Quests are , , , . Today's Baking Quests are  and . Today's Spice Jars are , , and .

Either that, or the first line and a link to the tables with that info. Looking a bit into some templates we already have, I figured it could calculate the day by doing(Weeknumber * 7) + Daynumber + Displacement, and subtracting 84 until it reached a number 84 or lower. Displacement would be the number the table is at on the first day of the year (for 2011, it would be 21). For the week number, it would do ceil(Cycleday / 12). The name of the day and the regular timestamp can just be from magic words. I'm not quite sure how to handle the quests yet, but I'm sure if we can tackle the date we can do something for the Quests.

PS, Today is 75, Thursday 11.

Thanks for your help! ~Monchoman45 Do you know what that feeling is? You're jealous that your city doesn't look like a Jellyfish. 21:28, December 2, 2010 (UTC)

I am rather confused
What am I doing wrong? The template wont let me create anything :( Timeoin 10:26, March 9, 2011 (UTC)

Thank you!
Hi Sovq,

Just wanted to say that I've been appreciating your contributions in the forums. You're very helpful to members. Thanks so much! --Dopp http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb32675/wikia/images/e/e9/WikiaStaff.png (help forum | blog) 17:14, April 1, 2011 (UTC)


 * Thanks, it feels good to get a pat on the back every once in a while :). Sovq 20:41, April 1, 2011 (UTC)

You Got It Right
"So you want the users to use two templates? One for the data and one for the color theme? Sovq 21:57, April 8, 2011 (UTC)" You said it better than I could have but how would I go about doing that.--Nk3play2 01:45, April 14, 2011 (UTC)


 * I found the switch parser function, but I don't know how to go about adding it to the template, Template:Infobox Soap character. Can you show me an example involving a show name and with a specific color.--Nk3play2 22:30, April 14, 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks a lot for your help, that is exactly what I was trying to do.--Nk3play2 20:02, April 15, 2011 (UTC)

No title
Hello so glad i could reach a contributor i have a problem

this user

http://videogamefanon.wikia.com/wiki/User:CHAGADAI

has found out who i am and i need your help can you block him for me or talk to him about my problem

sorry i know your not involved in this wiki but please i need somebody.


 * I'm sorry, but there's nothing I can do. You can either:
 * Request the help of the local admin
 * Report the vandalism on the VSTF wiki
 * Use Special:Contact to tell the staff about it
 * — Sovq 21:12, May 11, 2011 (UTC)

Deleting images help
Hello, I read that your bot can delete all of the unused files on a wiki, is it true? That would be exactly what I need on my Inazuma Eleven wiki as the unusued files are all either duplicates, really poor quality images or unauthorized fanart. Could you help me out? --源田幸次郎 ビースト ファング！！ 08:58, May 21, 2011 (UTC)
 * I already backed up the woodmark, favicon and badges and I am okay with everything else unused being deleted. I will give your account admin right immediatly. --源田幸次郎 ビースト ファング！！ 11:08, May 21, 2011 (UTC)
 * Thank you very much for the help! --源田幸次郎 ビースト ファング！！ 08:23, May 22, 2011 (UTC)


 * I would recommend you to learn how to put some sort of timer between deletions, to prevent so much strain to the servers. Specially for files, since they put strain in both the database server and the file servers. That would indeed help the recurring caching and missing image problems around Wikia. --Ciencia Al Poder (talk) -WikiDex 14:00, May 21, 2011 (UTC)


 * Yep, you're right, my bad. — Sovq 14:13, May 21, 2011 (UTC)

Unused Files Deletion Help
Hello.

I am in need of your bot to clean up the Unused Files section of our wikia. The site is http://peacekeepers.wikia.com/wiki/Peacekeepers_Wiki.

Let me know what I have to do, if you have time to help.

Thanks!

-Brandfrontier

Follow-up: I do not know how to give SovBot admin rights. I am limited in my wikia knowledge, sorry for the trouble.

Yes, I DO want you to delete the files in the Unused Files section.

Thank you
Thanks for this! — Spike Toronto  15:02, July 13, 2011 (UTC)


 * You're welcome :) — Sovq 15:27, July 13, 2011 (UTC)

DPL help
Hi! Since you told me I can ask you to set up a DPL here I am! So.. I'm trying to make a template for admins which will list the pages candidates for deletion and the users requested to be banned... for example:  category = Candidates for deletion include = {Delete}:reason:1 format = {| class="wikitable"¶!User!!Reason for deletion,¶|-¶|%TITLE%||,,¶|} </DPL> This should produce a simple table with a list of pages candidates for deletion with why they should be deleted. The problem is that the reason can be provided as either a free parameter and as the "reason=" parameter. So if they're both present (in different templates) they will be put in two different colums, while I want both of them in "reason for deletion". Is there a way to use a logical OR like :reasonOR1? Or to force the call in the table like this?
 * -¶|%TITLE%||#REASON# #1#,,¶|}

Also, a doubt about the "replaceintitle" parameter, if I want to replace a subpage like /sub/ how can I do that? Because if I use  the first "/" won't be replaced. And are there jolly characters?


 * The way I see the query syntax you posted, the included parameters will both be in one column in the table, since you didn't divide them in any way. It would easier for me to verify that, if I had a 'live' example to test on. However, instead of passing the parameters directly i.e. "{Delete}:reason:1" you can produce a surrogate template (Template:Delete dpl) which will output anything you wish, including parser functions, allowing you to decide which parameters should be in the result.


 * As for the slash issue; Perl regular expressions allow the use of pipe symbols as delimiters so   might work, although I'm not entirely sure if dpl will support that. — Sovq 22:10, July 14, 2011 (UTC)

That syntax will produce something like this, sorry it's in Italian... How is the code with the surrogate template? Ah and another thing: about the include parameter, how can I include like the first 100 characters of a page without template and images? Because I tried using "includemaxlength" but it included also templates and images... I want only plain text.


 * The problem with the queries is that for some reason the delete template keeps adding a pipe symbol somewhere to the parameters. The fifth dpl query on the page you linked shows these pipes. It should be :


 * Discussioni utente:Leviathan 89test
 * Utente:Leviathan 89/SandboxTEST, non rimuovere.
 * instead of what it is now. These pipes obviously modify the table output. Best way to solve it would be finding the source of these excess symbols and removing them. Another around that is to use the mentioned surrogate template, as shown in the first dpl query on the page. A third way would be to use the html table syntax as shown on the second dpl query (and deal with the pipes with a #replace function or something).


 * As for the second issue - you might try with the reset parameter (best trying both syntaxes: and  ). But I can't guarantee you'll get satisfying results. — Sovq 07:20, July 15, 2011 (UTC)

I made some tests and I found a solution: it seems that the extra pipes are produced only if the parameter are listed in succession like  (which it isn't normal, is it?), the simplest solution is to give the parameters separately like   which work fine with both html and wikitable. I don't know why there is this problem, since normally you list the parameter like that, and it seems this problem is common with other template... about the replaceintitle, is there a jolly charachter? Like |/*| to replace every subpage name? 12:35, July 15, 2011 (UTC)


 * Oh yeah, I guess that was the easiest solution. But keep in mind that the output is still not "clean" and the pipes might cause problems in the future. As for the wildcards:  should do it. — Sovq 14:04, July 15, 2011 (UTC)

Thank you, I hope this pipes problem is only a little code mistake and not a major error... we'll see in the future. If you have time, read this Forum:Unknown problem (I updated it), if you know something tell me. Thank you again.

Hi again, I just read on this page that I shouldn't put a DPL list in the wiki activity... is that really bad? On my wiki I created this template to keep track of the last talk pages and I placed it in the sitenews, should I remove it?. Are there other recommendations? 18:09, July 17, 2011 (UTC)


 * One problem with dpl is that it is very resource hungry, thus when a wiki is using multiple dpl queries, using complicated queries, or using dpl on high traffic pages, the servers might have a hard time with processing the data. I assume this is the reason why Wikia recommends not using dpl in sidebar or sitenotice (note that the help page is outdated - there is no sitenotice anymore and the sidebar is non-customizable), since the query would have been seen by every user on every page, so it would cause a heavy server strain . But if you do it in Wiki Activity, on a smaller wiki, you shouldn't have any problems. Also, using allowcachedresults=true is a good way to ensure pages load faster and the servers don't take too much punishment. Cheers! — Sovq 18:27, July 17, 2011 (UTC)

I wish to put something like that in the English One Piece Wiki activity corner... (note that there is already a DPL query about the newest forums, it works fine) I need to give the ok to the admins there for requesting the DPL extension activation. 18:36, July 17, 2011 (UTC)


 * Good luck with it then :) I've read your discussion with another contributor on the english One Piece wiki, as well as the Wikia response to the dpl activation request. While enabling the extension doesn't affect anything, you might want to use dpl only for stuff that requires it, as DaNASCAT suggested. The reason why we're using DPL heavily on the Sacred Seasons 2 Wiki is that there is a LOT of data to present and only a handful of contributors. So the only way to keep the wiki up-to-date was to make most of the stuff update itself automatically, via DPL and bots. If we had a large userbase, we would probably think twice before dpl'ing everything. So my advice to you is; don't overuse DPL, especially if something can be done without it. — Sovq 19:17, July 17, 2011 (UTC)

Ok thanx, anyway I didn't want to create tables like those of Sacred Season 2, I'd like use the DPL for maintenance and service things like the templates I created or at maximum to show a list of random articles. By the way... who is DaNASCAT? Do you mean the response the admin got to the request? Thank you again. 19:38, July 17, 2011 (UTC)


 * User:DaNASCAT is the Wikia Staff member who responded to the request on One Piece Wiki, yes. — Sovq 20:25, July 17, 2011 (UTC)

My account got banned mayjorpayne. I sent an email about a month ago to the email it says when I try to log in. Please let me have my account back I didn't do anything wrong. Thanks again.

Forum pages
Hi Sovq! thanks for all your help on the forums yesterday. I'm wondering if you can help with a glitch that came up with our new configuration: there are no "Next Page / Prev Page" links at the bottom of Support Requests: http://community.wikia.com/wiki/Forum:Support_Requests. The code is there (and I added another version to keep testing, but I'm wondering if the fact that we're pulling from two different categories is confusing it. Any creative solutions you can recommend? (Feel free to edit directly.) Thanks! --Dopp http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb32675/wikia/images/e/e9/WikiaStaff.png (help forum | blog) 16:34, July 20, 2011 (UTC)

You should send that to Special:Contact, thats very good of you to see that. TheBen10Mazter (Talk -Blog -Contribs) 19:29, July 20, 2011 (UTC)'


 * Actually it doesnt really matter because the subject has nothing to do with wiki support and is directly releated to community centereal so using Special:Contact would be pointless-- <font style="font-size: 100%;"><span style="border: 1px solid black; -moz-border-radius:1ex; border-radius:1ex; border-top-right-radius:0ex; border-bottom-right-radius:0ex; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:0ex; -moz-border-radius-topright:0ex; background-color:Blue;"> Tama63  <span style="border: 1px solid black; -moz-border-radius:1ex; border-radius:1ex; border-top-left-radius:0ex; border-bottom-left-radius:0ex; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:0ex; -moz-border-radius-topleft:0ex; background-color:white; color:#FFF"> Talk  19:40, July 20, 2011 (UTC)

Why WoWWiki tooltips are quicker
Honestly, I have no idea. My only possible insight is the following code in <tt>w:c:wow:MediaWiki:Common.js</tt>: // quick tooltips function hideTemplateTip { $ttfb.html("").removeClass("tooltip-ready").addClass("hidden"); } However, there are other differences. Pcj may have done a little optimizing of WoWWiki tooltips before he left. -- <span style="border-bottom:1px dotted; cursor:help;" title="Who?">Fandyllic (talk &middot; contr) 22 Jul 2011 8:32 AM Pacific

DPL help:List
Hi, I need other tips on DPLs... on One Piece Wiki (en) we are thinking about creating a list of chapters/episodes where a character appeared on, and I was thinking about doing something like this: we mad a simple template with only the linked name of a character, like Monkey D. Luffy, then with the bot we substitute every Monkey D. Luffy in the characters section (each chapter/episode has a list of characters appeared), with, this way the list will be the "What links here" page of the template and it can be included with a DPL query. Now counting that there are a lot of chapters and characters, doing a dpl query for each characters (in their pages) will be too much strain on the server? I will use cached results with, for example, a day of expiration. About the dpl syntax, there will be an optional free parameter (which will tell where the character appeared, like cover, flashback...) using a simple list by "mode = userformat" is it possible to specify where to put the free parameter? (like with %% in the table) Because it will always be placed after the third comma (Startall,Start,*HERE*End,Endall), and I suppose you can't use expression like "if there is parameter 1 the show this"... How can you create different column, like with "column=", with the table mode instead? Do you have some scrolling results examples on your wiki? Because on the DPL manual isn't well explained. Well thank you again...


 * Umm.. It might be my poor comprehension skills, but it would be way easier for me to understand the first issue on an example. But if the question is only "how to create a list of chapters/episodes where a character appeared on" and each of such episodes uses a template which lists the character, then it's possible by using the includematch parameter, but again; I would need examples to confirm.


 * About the server strain - I don't know how many visitors your wiki usually has, but if you don't notice a substantial decrease in page loading speed and you won't receive e-mail from Wikia telling you to "cut down on dpl usage!" then you should be fine ;)


 * As for the table. In the table= parameter syntax you're pretty much limited to the values you define with include= paramter, each parameter is one column. The workarounds are: you can add a last column like in this example, using the format= parameter or you can add dummy parameters to be included i.e. {template}:dummy:real:real:dummy and then, in tablerow= param replace the parameters with whatever content you want i.e. tablerow=my text,%%,%%,your list here.


 * The format= parameter is more versatile than table=. You can create a table with the format parameter and have more options with defining what each row/column/cell contains. So you can freely add additional columns at will. It does require mode code through.


 * And yes, you can use parser functions, like the if function, inside dpl, like here for example


 * We don't use the scrolling parameter on the SS2 wiki and I've never tested it, but the syntax on the documentation page looks really straightforward, doesn't it?


 * Also, I might have completely misunderstood your questions. I usually need to see the problem to be able to solve it. The best way for me to understand them would be "I have this page here link here. Currently it's doing X and I want it to do Y."


 * Cheers! — Sovq 17:29, July 23, 2011 (UTC)

Your poor comprehension skills!? IT'S ME who always ask weird things!! ;) Well, you got 90% of what I asked, so I'll made some test and show you the "beta" version so it will be easier for both of us understand what I'm talking about... 18:33, July 23, 2011 (UTC)

Hi again, I kinda abandon this... but I want to know something: this is the test template, about the "third" solution, is it possible to fix the alphabetical order? Now "200" is listed before "3" for example. And do you know why in the last test there is that error?


 * Unfortunately, I don't have a good answer for neither of these questions.


 * As for the order issue - I believe the ordercollation parameter is used to define alternative sorting methods (using SQL location names), but I can't seem to get it to work. Alternatively, you could make the output table a sortable table and force a numeric sorting method through it, similarly to what's described on top of this page. I'm afraid there's no simple way to sort by data type - that's one advantage Semantic MediaWiki has over DPL.


 * About the expression issue - there are two problems:
 * 1. the expr function gets parsed before the dpl variable. To fix that you could use the dpl extension syntax, but that way you won't be able to pass a template parameter for 'columns' parameter - you would need to replace |columns = with columns = 2.


 * 2. I don't think all the DPL Variables can be used to print the values they store. The %DPL_offset% variable will most likely only print the data once you're on a page which has offset in the URL, i.e. &DPL_offset=xxx. Instead of trying to pass the "Showing xxx pages..." message via listseparators, perhaps you could copy what's shown in this example? — Sovq 14:02, August 24, 2011 (UTC)

Question
I currently have the coding

on the storyline template page. For some reason adding this caused the /doc template to appear in the Storyline Category. Do I need to place the code in the /doc instead? Because I want to save a step for manual categorizing. -- Bunai82 (talk) 15:16, August 1, 2011 (UTC)


 * Thank you, I don't mind if someone more experienced than me edits the templates, it is much easier that way. So when the template is used, the pages using the template will be sorted accordingly? -- Bunai82 (talk) 20:46, August 1, 2011 (UTC)


 * Thanks again, it seems to be working as it should. -- Bunai82 (talk) 20:54, August 1, 2011 (UTC)

Navbox help
So I tried several times following your advice and I've completely failed. Sorry to be a pain, but could you give me the code I need for the recolouring and I'll copypaste to SporeWiki's .css?--Technobliterator 14:51, August 17, 2011 (UTC)
 * All right, thanks for the help. I've had help from one of the older administrators from SporeWiki to fix the colouration, it's just one minor thing that needs fixing now. I do see what you mean, but the thing is to add the functionality I wanted from th old navbox would be even more difficult than copying this one. The original was just as complicated, really. We do have a semanticmediawiki device that could help, but we just haven't implemented it yet due to difficulty.
 * The one issue that remains is only minor; nestedplain functionality in the new navbox. It seems that a nested navbox only works like an ordinary navbox (see on my userpage there), when it's meant to change in format when changed to |Navbox/alt|nested . On the original, this happens when is done, alhough the functionality of how this works isn't as good as how Navbox/alt should potentially work. What it'd work like, is that if I did the following:


 * Then Navbox characters TPL & Jak 2, assuming they were both running on Navbox/alt, would be 'nested'. This is something the original navbox couldn't do, and is another reason I want to add a completely new code.
 * I'm not sure how to fix this?--Technobliterator 18:32, August 17, 2011 (UTC)
 * Ok, I think I've got it, thouh I didn't quite understand what you meant by the last thing about unnamed parametres. Anyway, final testing is here: w:c:spore:User:Technobliterator/Navbox/GTFO, the 'nested' stuff doesn't work there.--Technobliterator 18:32, August 17, 2011 (UTC)
 * Of the two options, I think I'll go with the former; there's times when I want User:Technobliterator/Navbox/Kralgon to function as a standalone navbox, and other times when it needs to function as nested. It seems I just needed to put a  in User:Technobliterator/Navbox/Kralgon. Thanks for the help!--Technobliterator 19:10, August 17, 2011 (UTC)

Escaping single quote in DPL
Hi Sovq, thanks for the help so far. The page i am referring to are:

http://mycountryforandroid.wikia.com/wiki/Template:Item (this holds the dpl logic)

If you look at http://mycountryforandroid.wikia.com/wiki/.38_Special you see it works for this one. However http://mycountryforandroid.wikia.com/wiki/Agent's_Fedora breaks.

The tip for adding "\W" worked like a charm..although I don't get why it works...on http://www.troubleshooters.com/codecorn/littperl/perlreg.htm it says "\W Match non-word character".

Thanks in advance!

Rothmans 07:48, September 2, 2011 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the "solution" (replacing the tag with my own logic), that worked. I am sure I tried that yesterday too and failed. But probably I missed a character somewhere or something. I've placed the ugly workaround in a seperate template now. Which makes it a bit more readable and I can reuse the escaping logic later again....


 * One thing I would like to clean up, is the nasty workaround, so if you got some pointers on that, that would help...


 * http://mycountryforandroid.wikia.com/wiki/Template:Esq


 * The nasty workaround can be found in http://mycountryforandroid.wikia.com/wiki/Template:Esq
 * I just want to have a template that gets a parameter and replaces all ' in it by \'. The current template seems a bit...eh....overkill...;) But I can't seem to get it shorte/better...
 * The "suppresserrors=true" works like a charm...
 * Thanks!


 * using doesn't work. I don't know why....

DPL again
Hi, I need again your assistance with DPL syntax... I'm testing this code: I want to make a gallery of random images selected by a template, now I'm confused why the %PAGE% value isn't passed to the second DPL call, especially since I saw a similar thing done on this template. If you are wondering why I did that, it's because the template have two parameters, one which provide the link to an article (to be passed as the image's link) and one which provide a title (to be passed as caption as the image). I'm testing on two images: and. Hope I've been clear enough.


 * I think I was able to fix the problem. An excess comma made the 'format' parameter try to execute a dpl query with a non-existent %PAGE% value. The  standard, as seen in the DPL manual will recognize the %PAGE% value only for the content of   since these are the parts related to the queried articles (%PAGE'S%). You might be interested in using the   dpl parameter, especially   to figure out some problems related to DPL. Also, on the Dead Frontier Wiki, in the Featured Clans section, we're using a randomly generated, linked clan banner, similar to what you're trying to do, so you might want to see how it could be done alternatively. <span style="font-size:125%; font-weight:bold; font-family:Trebuchet MS, Helvetica, sans-serif; text-shadow:0 0 0.05em #646464">— Sovq 16:26, September 20, 2011 (UTC)

Thank you again! Cool wiki, I'll take a look around there!