Forum:2008 Jan 27 IRC meeting transcript

The following is a semi-sanitized version of the IRC chat transcript. All times listed are based in PST (California etc).


 * [12:01:09]  ok, time for self-introductions
 * [12:01:25] * PanSola is from GuildWiki, and is an admin there
 * [12:01:52] * Skizzerz is an admin on the Encyclopedia Gamia (formerly known as GameInfo)
 * [12:01:58] * Razorflame is from GoWiki and is the founder and admin there
 * [12:02:41] * Joins: James-001
 * [12:02:43]  it's new :)
 * [12:02:44] * Skizzerz is also highly-inactive on the Wii Wiki, but has rollback there :)
 * [12:02:53]  haha
 * [12:02:56]  hi james
 * [12:03:02]  we are doing intros right now
 * [12:03:05]  hi
 * [12:03:32] * TfilkrofDetalfni is from Teh Wook, is also from RSWiki, and is nominally from Uncyc, Halopedia, and a couple others
 * [12:03:33]  yeah...
 * [12:03:37] * Joins: Phil_E
 * [12:03:47]  let's see...i was here two weeks ago...yeah
 * [12:03:48] * Razorflame is also from Uncyclopedia
 * [12:04:17]  always check the gaming hub for the official time
 * [12:04:47] * Quits: Phil_E
 * [12:04:49] * Joins: Phil_E_
 * [12:05:02]  James: not everyone was here 2 weeks ago
 * [12:05:19] * DuTempete is from WoWWIki
 * [12:05:24]  i'm with halopedia, did some minor stuff on some other gaming wikis
 * [12:06:48] * Quits: Phil_E_
 * [12:07:33] * Skizzerz is now known as Skizzerz_Away
 * [12:07:54]  so, any wikis have any issues/questions they want to bring up?
 * [12:07:56] * Joins: NastyAccident
 * [12:08:05]  ni NA
 * [12:08:05] * Skizzerz_Away is now known as Skizzerz
 * [12:08:07]  Yes, I got a request for my wiki
 * [12:08:13]  Kirkburn is occupied, although I've just reminded him :P
 * [12:08:14]  Greetings and Salutations?
 * [12:08:20] <Skizzerz> sorry about /nick spam, was testing to see if nickserv died too
 * [12:08:21] <TfilkrofDetalfni> hai NastyAccident
 * [12:08:24] <Razorflame> I need someone who is good at skins to make a skin for my wiki
 * [12:08:33] <Razorflame> I fail at making skins (no experience)
 * [12:08:47] <PanSola> can you do photoshop?
 * [12:08:52] <Razorflame> Barely
 * [12:08:56] <Razorflame> but I don't have it at my house
 * [12:08:59] <Razorflame> only at my school
 * [12:09:18] * Skizzerz is now known as apparantly
 * [12:09:22] <PanSola> http://inside.wikia.com/wiki/Quartz_Skin_Customization
 * [12:09:24] * apparantly is now known as Skizzerz
 * [12:09:30] <PanSola> that page lists some basics for quartz skin customization
 * [12:09:56] <DuTempete> hellos NastyAccident
 * [12:09:56] <PanSola> I can help you with stuff, but if you can do most of the image-editing that'd be great
 * [12:09:58] * Joins: Azul81677
 * [12:10:03] <PanSola> hi Az
 * [12:10:06] <Azul81677> Hi
 * [12:10:13] <Razorflame> kk
 * [12:10:17] <PanSola> (-:
 * [12:10:18] <NastyAccident> So, what is this gaming chat all about?
 * [12:10:21] <DuTempete> hi Azul81677
 * [12:10:25] <Azul81677> Hi :)
 * [12:11:13] <PanSola> NA: various stuff. issues faced by wikis, tips,
 * [12:11:17] <PanSola> questions anyone want to bring up, etc
 * [12:11:27] <PanSola> NA and Az: introduce yourselves (-:
 * [12:11:42] <Azul81677> NA: A place where wiki editors can come and talk about problems or changes on their wiki stuff like that
 * [12:11:55] * Joins: anc96
 * [12:11:59] <PanSola> ni anc96
 * [12:12:05] <PanSola> "hi"
 * [12:12:10] * PanSola keeps typing it wrong today
 * [12:12:12] lol, hiya
 * [12:12:21] <Skizzerz> PanSola: Ni!
 * [12:12:27] <Azul81677> Final Fantasy Wiki- Moderator, Kingdom Hearts Wiki- Admin/Sysop
 * [12:12:48] i am trying to get ppl on my wiki ;)
 * [12:12:57] <PanSola> anc: introduce yourself (-:
 * [12:12:59] <Razorflame> PanSola: am I allowed to make a request for people interested to check my wiki out?
 * [12:13:01] <Skizzerz> anc96: put it up for the spotlight :)
 * [12:13:08] <PanSola> Razorflame: on here? yes
 * [12:13:15] <DuTempete> Oh, and hello uberfuzzy|away!
 * [12:13:15] * DuTempete hazes the new guy.
 * [12:13:15] <Razorflame> Then that is what I would like to do
 * [12:13:21] <PanSola> elsewhere? becareful of their spamming/solicitation policy
 * [12:13:24] <Razorflame> yes
 * [12:13:32] <Azul81677> What Wiki?
 * [12:13:45] <Razorflame> Anyone who is interested in the board game called Go visit http://go.wikia.com
 * [12:14:06] <Razorflame> I am still working on the logo and skin
 * [12:14:18] <PanSola> NastyAccident: which wiki are you from?
 * [12:14:48] <NastyAccident> EQ2I
 * [12:14:55] <Azul81677> ?
 * [12:14:56] <PanSola> ah cool
 * [12:14:58] <DuTempete> eek...
 * [12:15:02] * DuTempete hides from NastyAccident
 * [12:15:05] skizzerz: I am anc96, I own the wiki called msgame.wikia.com It has info on the microsoft pc games and consoles, including hardware
 * [12:15:10] <Azul81677> Not good with acronyms
 * [12:15:11] <NastyAccident> eq2.wikia.com
 * [12:15:16] <DuTempete> Sony makes me cry...
 * [12:15:17] <NastyAccident> EverQuest 2
 * [12:15:20] <Azul81677> Ahh
 * [12:15:23] <Azul81677> got it
 * [12:15:49] <NastyAccident> DuTempete, I'm not the person you want to talk to then...
 * [12:15:51] <NastyAccident> :P
 * [12:15:53] did u all read my 'intro'?
 * [12:15:56] <DuTempete> hehe
 * [12:16:04] <NastyAccident> In all seriousness ;-)
 * [12:16:07] <Azul81677> no one "owns" a wiki
 * [12:16:07] <PanSola> anc: how is your MS game wiki coming along?
 * [12:16:25] ms game isnt doing well
 * [12:16:30] <PanSola> Az: and no one owns a country
 * [12:16:39] <Skizzerz> wb ChanServ
 * [12:16:46] <PanSola> and no one owns God, but ppl say Oh My God all the time
 * [12:16:46] * Joins: GPT
 * [12:16:49] <Razorflame> omg
 * [12:16:49] <PanSola> hi GPT
 * [12:16:50] <Razorflame> it's GPT
 * [12:16:59] <DuTempete> finally, GPT... sheesh
 * [12:17:07] it's only got 3 articles - home, xbox and list of microsoft games. it needs people to make more!
 * [12:17:17] <PanSola> anc: usually it goes the other way
 * [12:17:31] i dont get ya
 * [12:17:34] <PanSola> the founder/initial-team get the core set of articles up first
 * [12:17:42] <PanSola> in order to attract people
 * [12:17:47] i have (kinda)
 * [12:18:01] <PanSola> 3 isn't enough d-:
 * [12:18:05] * Joins: Simonrjh|360
 * [12:18:09] <Razorflame> I'm still working on my core articles
 * [12:18:11] <Simonrjh|360> herro
 * [12:18:14] <Razorflame> I just added a second one
 * [12:18:20] <Azul81677> Hi Simonrjh
 * [12:18:23] how many is? and could you help?
 * [12:19:08] <PanSola> anc: you need to be *good* in at least one specific game/franchise you cover
 * [12:19:26] i get you
 * [12:19:36] <PanSola> anc: gotta be better than Wikipedia
 * [12:19:44] <PanSola> more indepth coverage, detailed guides
 * [12:20:02] <PanSola> anc: also, you might want to focus on games that don't have large franchies associated with it
 * [12:20:17] the site is currently is in 'beta'
 * [12:20:20] <PanSola> and partner with other wikis who specialize with specific franchises
 * [12:21:15] i would like to partner with halopedia, but cant get in contact with an admin
 * [12:21:42] <PanSola> GPT: are you an admin on Halo?
 * [12:21:49] <GPT> yes
 * [12:21:55] <PanSola> there you go
 * [12:21:58] * PanSola plays match-making
 * [12:22:07] ah, thanks, lol
 * [12:22:09] <GPT> anc96: which wiki, what kind of partnership, all that rot?
 * [12:22:12] * GPT smacks PanSola
 * [12:22:13] <PanSola> Razorflame: sorry I don't personally play go
 * [12:22:23] i will PM gpt
 * [12:22:29] <GPT> k
 * [12:22:52] * Joins: Tsundare
 * [12:23:08] <PanSola> anc: basically I suggest the MSGame wiki to have super indepdth articles/walkthroughs and other types of articles for the "Other" games listed in http://msgame.wikia.com/wiki/List_of_Microsoft_games
 * [12:23:16] <PanSola> hi Tsudare!
 * [12:23:24] <Razorflame> PanSola: It automatically created an account for you on it
 * [12:23:46] <Tsundare> hello
 * [12:23:50] * Quits: TfilkrofDetalfni
 * [12:24:20] <PanSola> if you have other formatting and templates questions I'd be happy to help you out
 * [12:24:28] * Joins: Playsonic2
 * [12:24:37] <PanSola> Tsundare: introduce yourself. Which wiki you are from etc
 * [12:24:40] <PanSola> hi Playsonic2
 * [12:24:51] <Playsonic2> hi PanSola
 * [12:25:04] <PanSola> are you from the... um... sonic wiki? d-:
 * [12:25:17] <Playsonic2> no xD
 * [12:25:28] <Playsonic2> I'm from spanish wikis
 * [12:25:31] <PanSola> introduce yourself to the rest of the channel (-:
 * [12:25:43] <PanSola> ah
 * [12:25:45] * Joins: Drakars
 * [12:25:52] <Tsundare> I lurk at the FFWiki usually -_-
 * [12:25:54] <Azul81677> Hi Drakars :)
 * [12:25:56] <PanSola> hi Drakars
 * [12:26:00] <Drakars> hi
 * [12:26:11] <PanSola> Playsonic2: what are the english names for the spanish wikis you hang out at
 * [12:26:21] * PanSola appends a question mark
 * [12:26:22] <Playsonic2> I'm admin in Grand Theft Encyclopedia, Metal Gear Wiki and Disney Wiki
 * [12:26:39] <Playsonic2> Grand Theft Encyclopedia = Grand Theft Auto Wiki
 * [12:26:46] nice
 * [12:26:51] <DuTempete> mmmm GTA
 * [12:27:00] <Playsonic2> Metal Gear Wiki = Metal Gear Wiki (It's the same thing)
 * [12:27:04] <PanSola> cool. Do inter-language mapping exist between the english and spanish versions of those wikis?
 * [12:27:17] <Azul81677> Tsundare: Cool someone from the FFWiki!
 * [12:27:23] <Playsonic2> yes
 * [12:27:50] <DuTempete> I do have something to discuss with everyone, actually...
 * [12:27:50] * Quits: Drakars
 * [12:27:57] <PanSola> what is it DuTempete?
 * [12:27:58] what is it?
 * [12:28:01] <DuTempete> Community projects!
 * [12:28:14] <DuTempete> advertising them, organising them, etc
 * [12:28:15] <PanSola> oooh! (-:
 * [12:28:15] <Playsonic2> I also edit in Wikijuegos and Inciclopedia, Normal User
 * [12:28:54] <DuTempete> I'm the "head" of a character class project on wowwiki, and I want to get more people involved
 * [12:28:55] <PanSola> Playsonic2: nice (-: Do the articles actually utilize the interwiki mapping much?
 * [12:28:55] <Simonrjh|360> is there a guitar hero wiki?
 * [12:29:04] <uberfuzzy|away> Simonrjh|360: yes
 * [12:29:07] * Simonrjh|360 is now known as Simonrjh
 * [12:29:15] <Playsonic2> Wikijuegos = Wiki in Spanish about Games :-)
 * [12:29:16] <PanSola> Simonrjh: yes
 * [12:29:19] <Simonrjh> uberfuzzy|away: link me please :)
 * [12:29:24] <Simonrjh> or PanSola
 * [12:29:29] <PanSola> try guitarheroes.wikia.com
 * [12:29:39] <DuTempete> we've also recently made an organisation effort on community projects in general: http://www.wowwiki.com/WoWWiki:Community_projects
 * [12:29:42] <PanSola> or guitarheros.wikia.com
 * [12:30:08] <PanSola> Image:Icon-new-48x48.png WoWWiki does not have a WoWWiki page with this exact name!
 * [12:30:22] <JoePlay> no 'es' and no 's'
 * [12:30:27] <PanSola> I wonder if the WoWWiki has a non-WoWWiki page with that name
 * [12:30:28] <JoePlay> just guitarhero
 * [12:30:28] <Tsundare> Azul81677: Oh, I know you
 * [12:30:40] <PanSola> doh >_<"
 * [12:30:42] <Playsonic2> PanSola: I think some articles have the Interwiki, and some articles not...
 * [12:31:34] <DuTempete> PanSola, we do not
 * [12:31:35] <PanSola> Playsonic2: from your perspective you might want to ensure all English wiki articles link to your spanish wiki, to increase the exposure (-:
 * [12:32:07] <PanSola> DuTempete: so where is the community projects page?
 * [12:32:09] * Quits: Tsundare
 * [12:33:03] <Playsonic2> PanSola: I think the english Metal Gear Wiki doesn't have Inter-language yet
 * [12:33:08] * Joins: robertsonwilliam
 * [12:33:14] <PanSola> hi robertsonwilliam
 * [12:33:17] <Azul81677> Tsundare: Cool :) Who am I ? lol
 * [12:33:24] hello
 * [12:33:40] <DuTempete> my bad, it's http://www.wowwiki.com/WoWWiki:Projects
 * [12:33:46] * Joins: Richard1990
 * [12:33:46] whats that for
 * [12:33:46] <PanSola> introduce youself to the rest of the crowd (-:
 * [12:33:49] <PanSola> hi Richard1990
 * [12:33:57] <JoePlay> hey richard
 * [12:33:59] hi im robertsonwilliam
 * [12:34:02] <Jack_Phoenix> hoi, a lot of people here - what'd I miss? :)
 * [12:34:02] <Richard1990> hey sorry i'm late
 * [12:34:04] <Azul81677> Hello
 * [12:34:05] <JoePlay> lmao
 * [12:34:10] any interested in msgame? if yes, then plz PM me :)
 * [12:34:12] <DuTempete> hi RIchard1990
 * [12:34:14] <Richard1990> hi guys
 * [12:34:32] so what are you guys talking about
 * [12:34:52] <PanSola> robertsonwilliam: various stuff. Issues faced by wikis, general tips or practices that are Good Ideas
 * [12:34:52] * Quits: robertsonwilliam
 * [12:34:55] <JoePlay> world domination >=]
 * [12:34:57] <PanSola> oops
 * [12:35:03] <JoePlay> err.. what Pan said
 * [12:35:37] <PanSola> Richard1990: introduce yourself. What wiki you are from etc
 * [12:35:40] <PanSola> (-:
 * [12:36:22] <DuTempete> Basically, what we've done for the projects is create this portal, and announce it at the village pump. We decided on some basic organisation methods as you see there, such as a central page for the project, and use of the project tag
 * [12:36:48] <DuTempete> I'm in the process of tagging about 700-800 articles for my project. :P
 * [12:36:54] <PanSola> hehe
 * [12:36:55] <Richard1990> oh sorry
 * [12:37:28] <PanSola> GuildWiki also has projects, and we make a linkon the sidebar
 * [12:37:41] <JoePlay> i guess i should intro myself too since i don't come to the sunday chats much
 * [12:37:44] <JoePlay> me -> http://www.wikia.com/wiki/User:JoePlay
 * [12:37:46] <PanSola> http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/GuildWiki:Projects
 * [12:37:56] <PanSola> though ours is not very organized
 * [12:38:04] <DuTempete> I keep calling it "my" project, since that's how it started out. I just made a subpage of my user page so that I could keep track of what I wanted to do.
 * [12:38:13] * Quits: anc96
 * [12:38:14] <Richard1990> i'm a member of Wikia's Gaming Team and help out a variety of wikis related to gaming
 * [12:38:19] * Quits: Kodia|afk
 * [12:38:35] <Richard1990> i admin zeldapedia, runescape wiki, wikitroid, super smash bros. wiki, and some other entertainment wikis
 * [12:38:39] <Razorflame> Richard1990: Maybe you could help my Wiki that is struggling to get active?
 * [12:38:54] <Richard1990> or used to
 * [12:39:01] <JoePlay> heh
 * [12:39:08] <DuTempete> Yeah, we're putting the tags on the talk page. Do you have any thoughts of whether it would be better there, or on the main article?  I think the main concern with it being on the main article is it taking up so much space: http://www.wowwiki.com/Template:Warlock_project
 * [12:39:13] * Skizzerz is now known as MediaWiki
 * [12:39:45] <PanSola> DuTempete: wikipedia does it on the talk page, adn I think in this case their practice makes sense
 * [12:40:04] <PanSola> don't want to clutter up the main article
 * [12:40:09] <DuTempete> right
 * [12:40:09] * Quits: Richard1990
 * [12:40:16] * Joins: Richard1990
 * [12:40:19] <DuTempete> we're already having enough trouble with navboxes :P
 * [12:40:21] <Richard1990> oops sorry im not used to irc
 * [12:40:29] <uberfuzzy|away> for the record, i'm also one of those gaming team people like Richard1990
 * [12:40:33] * Quits: Azul81677
 * [12:40:47] <PanSola> is the gateway gong crazy?
 * [12:40:55] <PanSola> everyone is EOFing
 * [12:41:00] <MediaWiki> idk
 * [12:41:04] * Joins: Tesfan
 * [12:41:06] <GPT> PanSola: that's what happens when you close the window
 * [12:41:14] <GPT> IIRC
 * [12:41:17] <PanSola> heh i thought you get something else
 * [12:41:20] <PanSola> hi tesfan
 * [12:41:26] <Jack_Phoenix> gateway fails, no kidding
 * [12:41:33] <Jack_Phoenix> real clients are far more superior
 * [12:41:34] <DuTempete> I'd like to also have some type of advert about the project on the main page... mebbe an icon at the top?
 * [12:41:34] <Playsonic2> hi Tesfan
 * [12:41:42] <PanSola> DuTempete: do you want to write an OpEd about the concept of community projects? (-:
 * [12:41:46] <Charitwo> reverend phoenix
 * [12:41:49] <PanSola> yeah that'd be cool
 * [12:41:54] <Dashiva> Is there a standard template for marking a wiki as orphaned?
 * [12:42:06] <PanSola> Dashiva: or something
 * [12:42:06] <DuTempete> I saw something I liked on another wiki... let me go look for it.
 * [12:42:14] <DuTempete> PanSola, OpEd?
 * [12:42:25] <PanSola> http://www.wikia.com/wiki/Gaming
 * [12:42:39] <JoePlay> Wikia soapbox section
 * [12:42:52] <Tesfan> Hi
 * [12:43:24] <Dashiva> I'm going over the non-English TR wikis, and they all look stillborn or abandoned
 * [12:43:24] <JoePlay> good place to put a message for people to see, especially if you're wanting to draw attention to a particular wiki
 * [12:43:41] <Razorflame> Dashiva: TR?
 * [12:43:55] <PanSola> Tabula Rasa
 * [12:44:12] <PanSola> Richard "Lord British" Garriot's MMORPG
 * [12:44:27] <PanSola> though now he's been demoted to General d-:
 * [12:44:28] <Dashiva> Some of them don't have a single entry in Listusers, even
 * [12:44:57] <PanSola> Dashiva: yeah IIRC a lot of the TR forign-language wikis were just created out of a partnership with another site
 * [12:45:01] <DuTempete> Well, PanSola, I suppose I could, but I don't consider myself an expert...
 * [12:45:02] <PanSola> and does't have a real founder or user
 * [12:45:19] <DuTempete> and holy FSM... TR is Lord British's game?
 * [12:45:27] <PanSola> DuTempete: not an expert on the subject of community projects?
 * [12:45:28] <DuTempete> I didn't know that :P
 * [12:45:34] <DuTempete> aye, PanSola
 * [12:45:38] <PanSola> DuTempete: did you know LB's real life name?
 * [12:45:55] <DuTempete> I'm sure I've heard it, but I don't identify him as such.
 * [12:45:59] <PanSola> TR has been marketed as "Richard Garriet's Tabula Rasa" for a while now
 * [12:46:19] <Razorflame> PanSola: When something says Public domain, that means it's alright to use, right?
 * [12:46:22] <PanSola> the developer is called "Destination Games", an obvious contrast to "Origin"
 * [12:46:29] <PanSola> Razorflame: yes
 * [12:46:31] <DuTempete> lol
 * [12:46:34] <DuTempete> that's amusing
 * [12:46:39] <PanSola> yeah (-:
 * [12:46:40] <DuTempete> the things you don't notice :P
 * [12:46:43] <Razorflame> PanSola:It's alright to use on a wikia then?
 * [12:46:47] <Richard1990> yeah
 * [12:46:50] <Razorflame> kk
 * [12:46:55] <Richard1990> anything free can be used on wikia
 * [12:47:07] <Richard1990> gfdl, glpl, cc, etc.
 * [12:47:15] <PanSola> Razorflame: in general yes. if you want to be careful, yu might want to double check to see if it is really PD
 * [12:47:26] <PanSola> sometimes some stuff are "claimed" to be PD, but aren't realy
 * [12:47:26] <Razorflame> It says so
 * [12:47:33] * MediaWiki is now known as Skizzerz
 * [12:47:38] <PanSola> hehe
 * [12:47:38] <Razorflame> PanSola: It's from the Library of Congress
 * [12:47:43] <PanSola> ah then yeah
 * [12:47:55] * PanSola thinks we also need a Library of Progress
 * [12:48:01] <Razorflame> lol
 * [12:48:14] <DuTempete> So, does anyone have any input about community projects?
 * [12:48:19] <PanSola> DuTempete: so you thinkyou might be interestedin Tabula Rasa?
 * [12:48:27] <PanSola> DuTempete: not sure what kind of input you are seeking
 * [12:48:32] <PanSola> aside where to put tags
 * [12:48:33] <DuTempete> mebbe, but I doubt I'd have the time.
 * [12:48:41] <PanSola> hehe
 * [12:48:48] <DuTempete> Things that have worked for other people.
 * [12:48:58] <PanSola> we put a link on our sidebar
 * [12:49:01] <PanSola> to the projects
 * [12:49:06] <PanSola> trying to attract more ppl
 * [12:49:11] <PanSola> also linkit from community portal
 * [12:49:16] <DuTempete> I really don't like WoW that much (mostly hate Blizzard), but I still play because of my friends.
 * [12:49:30] <PanSola> DuTempete: wash their brains
 * [12:49:40] <PanSola> and get them to play other games with you (-:
 * [12:49:42] <Dashiva> I'd recommend hashing out the basic details of the project with a tiny group of core members, then try to draw people in to get things moving
 * [12:49:44] <DuTempete> Oh, that thing I was looking for... I didn't find it, but maybe I can describe it.
 * [12:50:02] <Dashiva> Design-by-200-people-trying-to-bike-shed never works
 * [12:50:39] <Razorflame> Is anyone here even remotely interested in the board game of Go?
 * [12:50:41] <DuTempete> It's a small table that showed above the ToC/navboxes, appended to the end of the main headline
 * [12:50:55] <DuTempete> mebbe 50x150
 * [12:50:57] <PanSola> Razorflame: I am intersted in helping the Go Wiki itself, but unfortunately I don't play the game )-:
 * [12:51:16] <DuTempete> Being able to add something like that would be fantastic, I think.
 * [12:51:23] <Razorflame> PanSola: I could still use some fleshing out of ideas and stuff like that
 * [12:51:39] <PanSola> Razorflame: one thing I would suggest is seek out other boradgame wikis, and make a partnership with them
 * [12:51:45] <Dashiva> Razorflame: Won't calling it that push away the hardcore fans who refuse to use the false name? ;)
 * [12:52:23] <Razorflame> Dashiva:I prefer to call it the go wiki because it is simple and easy to remember
 * [12:52:35] <Razorflame> PanSola:All right. I'll look around
 * [12:53:10] <PanSola> what's the hardcore name for it? o_O
 * [12:53:22] <Razorflame> Weiqui
 * [12:53:25] <Razorflame> or...
 * [12:53:32] <Razorflame> (that's chinese)
 * [12:53:38] <Razorflame> Baduk (Korean)
 * [12:53:48] <Razorflame> other than that...I dunno
 * [12:54:03] <PanSola> eh, so basically hardcore gamers don't like the Japanese name?
 * [12:54:10] <Razorflame> PanSola:Should I add a link to my wiki under Highlighted wikis?
 * [12:54:21] <Razorflame> Under the section Helping out
 * [12:54:29] <PanSola> Razorflame: go ahead (-:
 * [12:55:02] <PanSola> I'll be updating the New wikis later today or early tomorrow and that'll include the Go Wiki too, but that's something independent
 * [12:55:57] <DuTempete> I'm not sure where to start coding for a small infobox that shows up next to the article headline...
 * [12:56:07] <PanSola> DuTempete: doesn't matter where
 * [12:56:23] <DuTempete> well, I can design it easy
 * [12:56:36] <DuTempete> hrmm... I suppose I could float it there...
 * [12:56:37] <PanSola> it uses css positioning to get up there
 * [12:56:42] <DuTempete> yeah
 * [12:56:57] <PanSola> (though wiht quartz skin tings might look weird because of teh way the margins were hacked)
 * [12:57:26] <DuTempete> what type of positioning should I use so that it's in the same place for each skin?
 * [12:57:47] <Razorflame> PanSola:I added it now
 * [12:58:04] * Joins: Simon_rjh
 * [12:58:05] <PanSola> Razorflame: you might want to hang out on #wikia, and see if a staff by the name of Yukichi (or yukichi99) shows up, and ask him if he can help advertise your wiki to Japanese users
 * [12:58:09] <DuTempete> relative?
 * [12:58:25] <PanSola> Razorflame: you can add a link to your wiki now under highlighted
 * [12:58:37] <PanSola> I'm saying I'm goind to do something additional, later
 * [12:58:43] <PanSola> wb simon
 * [12:58:46] <Razorflame> PanSola:That's exactly what I did
 * [12:58:51] <DuTempete> but that wouldn't be right, either... content widths are different between monobook and quartz
 * [12:58:51] <Razorflame> just now
 * [12:58:55] <PanSola> Razorflame: cool (-:
 * [12:59:03] <Razorflame> PanSola:Does Yukichi speak English?
 * [12:59:08] <PanSola> Razorflame: yes
 * [12:59:26] * Joins: Camicio
 * [12:59:38] <PanSola> try to market it in such a way as "Japanes users can practice their English while sharing their knowledge"
 * [12:59:39] <PanSola> d-:
 * [12:59:42] <Razorflame> rar Camicio
 * [12:59:49] <PanSola> see if he'd be interested in helping
 * [13:00:01] <PanSola> since Go is a bigger deal in Japan/Asia than the wester world
 * [13:00:53] <Razorflame> yes
 * [13:01:14] <Razorflame> I added a bit of information to the end of it that basically says what you just said
 * [13:01:18] <PanSola> or maybe a sister Japanese Go Wiki would be setup
 * [13:01:31] <Razorflame> only I added Korean and Chinese to the list
 * [13:01:35] <PanSola> (-:
 * [13:02:51] <PanSola> DuTempete: use position:absolute, then set its position relative to the left side
 * [13:03:17] <Richard1990> oh hey i just realized i'm not listed as a helper :O
 * [13:03:31] <PanSola> Richard1990: go bite someone higherup d-:
 * [13:04:03] <PanSola> DuTempete: or edit MW:Common.css, and define different CSS ruels depending on the skin
 * [13:04:07] <DuTempete> well, I'll play with it, and show you what I've got, how does that sound, PanSola?
 * [13:04:17] <PanSola> sounds great (-:
 * [13:04:19] <DuTempete> true, I could create a new class for it.
 * [13:04:21] * Quits: Richard1990
 * [13:04:30] <PanSola> anyone else has any questions?
 * [13:04:32] * Joins: Richard1990
 * [13:04:59] <Tesfan> Hai =D
 * [13:05:06] <Richard1990> i clicked help by accident
 * [13:05:14] <Richard1990> oh hey Tesfan how's the runescape wiki
 * [13:05:25] <Tesfan> pretty good =)
 * [13:05:45] <Camicio> i have a question can i answer it please?
 * [13:06:01] <PanSola> yes
 * [13:06:02] <Richard1990> yeah i noticed it reached 8,000 articles recently that's pretty good
 * [13:06:18] <PanSola> Camicio what is your question?
 * [13:06:32] <Camicio> how do i answer it?
 * [13:06:40] <PanSola> where is the question?
 * [13:06:54] <Camicio> in irc
 * [13:07:19] <PanSola> if there is a question on IRC, you can just answer it on IRC
 * [13:07:22] <Razorflame> PanSola:The other board game wikis are either dead or have no admins
 * [13:07:31] <PanSola> Razorflame: piyt
 * [13:07:38] <Razorflame> PanSola:What?
 * [13:07:42] <PanSola> well you can still link to them, either causing them to revive
 * [13:07:48] <PanSola> I meant to say "pity"
 * [13:07:51] <Camicio> ok, thank you
 * [13:07:52] <Razorflame> oh lol
 * [13:08:10] <PanSola> Razorflame: and you can go therem and have them link to you (since they don't have a community to object)
 * [13:08:23] <PanSola> soif they ever revive, or anyone just randomly run into them
 * [13:08:28] <PanSola> htey see a link to your wiki
 * [13:08:31] <PanSola> speaking of which
 * [13:08:33] <Camicio> what is a holy paladin supposed to have with him when grouping?
 * [13:08:52] <PanSola> Camicio: what game is this question about?
 * [13:09:06] <Camicio> ah this isn't about wow?
 * [13:09:08] <PanSola> Camicio: this is a general gaming channel, so not everyone necessarily knows about your game
 * [13:09:17] <Camicio> ah, ok
 * [13:09:18] <PanSola> DuTempete: you can help Camicio (-:
 * [13:09:20] <Camicio> it's wow by the way
 * [13:09:32] <PanSola> I think DuTempete is our local WoW expert (-:
 * [13:09:35] <DuTempete> ah, Camicia :)
 * [13:09:39] <DuTempete> err Camicio
 * [13:09:44] <DuTempete> yes, I suppose that would be me :P
 * [13:09:54] <PanSola> Razorflame: can you help keep a list of all board-game wikis on wikia?
 * [13:10:10] <DuTempete> good, I see you're in #wowwiki Camicio :)
 * [13:11:59] <Razorflame> PanSola:On my wiki?
 * [13:12:08] <Razorflame> on the Go Wiki?
 * [13:12:12] <Razorflame> or on central?
 * [13:12:27] <PanSola> Razorflame: on central
 * [13:12:39] <DuTempete> So, PanSola, I'll work on that OpEd? Actually, let me get a reference point via the other articles before I commit to that, so I can be sure I'm up to it. :P
 * [13:12:44] <Razorflame> Where?
 * [13:12:52] <PanSola> DuTempete: sure (-:
 * [13:13:13] <PanSola> Razorflame: maybe create a new template called Template:Boardgame Wikis
 * [13:13:30] <PanSola> and you can format it similar to Template:Star Wars Wikis
 * [13:13:44] <PanSola> if you are interested in doing this project that is (-:
 * [13:14:12] <PanSola> oops I mean Template:Star Wars wikis
 * [13:14:50] <JoePlay> razorflame - probably here -> http://www.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Board_Games
 * [13:15:15] <JoePlay> unless Pan had a diff place in mind
 * [13:16:49] * Quits: Simonrjh
 * [13:16:52] <Razorflame> the That's where I should put the template?
 * [13:17:16] <Razorflame> *That's where I should put the template?
 * [13:18:11] <PanSola> hmm
 * [13:18:52] <PanSola> I advocate create a new template at http://www.wikia.com/wiki/Template:Boardgame_wikis
 * [13:19:27] <Razorflame> I have the template made
 * [13:19:28] <PanSola> modeled on http://www.wikia.com/wiki/Template:Star_Wars_wikis
 * [13:19:30] <PanSola> nice (-:
 * [13:19:35] <Razorflame> except for the category
 * [13:19:42] <Razorflame> what category should the template use?
 * [13:19:44] <Razorflame> Gaming?
 * [13:19:45] <PanSola> don't worry about the category (-:
 * [13:19:47] <PanSola> um sure
 * [13:19:50] <PanSola> d-:
 * [13:21:14] <Razorflame> How the heck am I supposed to make it?
 * [13:21:59] <Razorflame> I can't find a way to make the new page
 * [13:22:06] <PanSola> you can't edit it?
 * [13:22:07] <Razorflame> Special:Createpage no exist
 * [13:22:24] <PanSola> go to http://www.wikia.com/wiki/Template:Boardgame_wikis and click "edit"
 * [13:23:23] <Razorflame> made
 * [13:23:54] <PanSola> thanks (-:
 * [13:23:58] <Razorflame> might need an image tho
 * [13:24:35] <PanSola> got any good image in mind? (-:
 * [13:24:40] <Razorflame> Nope
 * [13:26:12] <Razorflame> PanSola:You can do whatever you wish to do with the template
 * [13:26:59] <PanSola> like adding it to the Go Wiki main page d-:
 * [13:27:07] * Joins: Sgt_Johnson
 * [13:27:09] <Razorflame> oh?
 * [13:27:13] <Razorflame> That's what should happen?
 * [13:27:13] <Sgt_Johnson> DID I MAKE IT?!
 * [13:27:17] <Razorflame> barely
 * [13:27:23] <PanSola> Johnson: no
 * [13:27:25] <PanSola> d-:
 * [13:27:31] <PanSola> Razorflame: not "should"
 * [13:27:35] <Sgt_Johnson> lol
 * [13:27:40] <PanSola> it's not a matter of should or shouldnot
 * [13:27:40] <Razorflame> PanSola:Do central wiki templates work on any wiki?
 * [13:27:41] * Sgt_Johnson is an admin at Ace Wiki and a rollback user at halopedia
 * [13:27:42] <PanSola> it can, and I did
 * [13:27:44] * Quits: Camicio
 * [13:27:49] <PanSola> it can happen, so I made it happen d-:
 * [13:27:51] <Razorflame> yes
 * [13:27:54] <Razorflame> it will happen
 * [13:27:56] <PanSola> if you don't like it, you can move it or change it
 * [13:27:57] <PanSola> (-:
 * [13:28:10] <Razorflame> Do central wiki templates work on all wikias?
 * [13:28:33] <PanSola> kind of
 * [13:28:37] <PanSola> they randomly break
 * [13:28:45] <PanSola> and they dont' update immediate when you change the template
 * [13:28:52] <Razorflame> omg
 * [13:28:56] <Razorflame> it's already on my main page
 * [13:29:01] <Razorflame> and I don't think I did anything
 * [13:29:06] <PanSola> I did it
 * [13:29:08] <PanSola> d-:
 * [13:29:10] <Razorflame> ah
 * [13:29:41] <Razorflame> PanSola: It says you are good with logs
 * [13:29:43] <Razorflame> *logos
 * [13:29:52] <PanSola> what says I am good with logos?
 * [13:29:59] <Razorflame> Your user page
 * [13:30:01] <Razorflame> :)
 * [13:30:15] <PanSola> on go or central?
 * [13:30:20] <Razorflame> go
 * [13:31:15] <Razorflame> eh..
 * [13:31:24] <Razorflame> hold on...I get drink and food
 * [13:31:30] <PanSola> I think you read it wrong
 * [13:31:40] <PanSola> I can *help* you with logos, doesn't mean I'm good d-:
 * [13:31:49] <Razorflame> I'm tired :)
 * [13:31:54] <PanSola> hehe
 * [13:32:07] <Razorflame> I been working on Go Wiki for about 7 hours now
 * [13:32:14] <Razorflame> actually, 8
 * [13:32:53] <PanSola> ouch
 * [13:32:57] <PanSola> well, good luck with it
 * [13:32:59] <Razorflame> spent the first 5 hours doing background stuff
 * [13:33:09] <PanSola> I need to take off soon
 * [13:33:14] <PanSola> but feel free to hang out here
 * [13:33:26] <PanSola> other ppl here can be of help too
 * [13:33:35] <PanSola> and maybe you can help others coming here asking for help (-:

-PanSola 18:38, 14 February 2008 (UTC)