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Please add new messages to the bottom, thanks :) -- sannse (talk)

Can user access levels be modified?
Hi, I would like to know if it would be possible to change the user access levels required to grant rights on a certain wiki without changing them for the rest of Wikia (for example, bureaucrats granting bot flags and administrators granting rollback). I haven't started a discussion about this yet; I would just like to know if it would be possible if there were consensus on a wiki to do so. Thanks. SUL 17:16, 19 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Hi, SUL. Yes, it is possible to make such changes, if this is something your community wants as a change, you need some discussion/consensus, and then ask Wikia. I'm not sure what changes they're willing to make, however. -- 17:24, 19 May 2009 (UTC)


 * As Charitwo says, it's technically possible. However, we don't often make such changes, simply because it becomes more difficult to manage thousands of wikis with lots of different settings and such.  If there is a really good reason to make the change, we'll consider it, but I can't guarantee anything :) -- 12:15, 20 May 2009 (UTC)

Hey
Hi sannse, I made a spotlight request and it's been 2 days since I made it, I checked the other requests their requests were answered in 1 day, so I just want to make sure no one forgot my request--Ventress112
 * Hi, please remember that staff often don't work at weekends, and sometimes even have national holidays as days off!! ;) We also have varying tasks, which sometimes means we can't work on a particular task every day.  Depending on what other work they have to do, the people who look at spotlights should visit the page sometime over the next few days.  Please be patient.  Thanks -- sannse (talk) 08:41, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

you have a fan/impersonator
Hey Sannse, look what i found [http://help.wikia.com/index.php?title=User:Sannse. this user] looks like a fan possible impersonator.--
 * Hi Cizagna. Yep, he's been blocked globally (along with his many other accounts :) Thanks for letting me know though! -- sannse (talk) 22:16, 29 May 2009 (UTC)

Daedryon.wikia.com
No thanks, lol. If I did though, I'd have it permanently set to Admin only. Plus, I'm a low-key type of guy, usually just hiding in the shadows until I'm needed. Regardless of the fact that I do own a website and a blog (daedryon.webs.com & daedryon.blogspot.com), as well as the obviously named YouTube account, I don't want a Wikia in my name to become a reason for anyone with a grudge against me to try to hack me and gain control of my account.  λ T 01:25, 30 May 2009 (UTC)

Toastmasters: Articles and Categories deleted
User:ArthurOgawa writing on 2009 May 30:

I see you have deleted eleven articles in the Toastmasters wiki, all on the grounds of “Possible copyright violation”. I appreciate your attention to our wiki, and I am sure that you have the best interests of all involved at heart.

In creating the wiki and in enriching its content, the guiding principle has been to provide a vehicle for Toastmasters worldwide to help each other with the self-directed program of education created by Toastmasters International. The wiki has the potential to be the vehicle for over a quarter million Toastmasters to each make their own contribution to this program.

Resolving the issue of which pages had material copyrighted by Toastmasters International was the subject of an ongoing correspondence between User:ErichV, myself, and the representative of Toastmasters International, [mailto:CMcGeath@toastmasters.org Camy McGeath], dating from 24 April 2009. (The pages you deleted are exactly those mentioned in her email of that date.) However, we ourselves were already engaged in our own review of all of the pages in the document tree (not just the top-level pages you deleted). Our most recent communication from Ms McGeath was, “I will wait to hear back from you.” By deleting the pages, you have made these efforts moot.

Some of the pages deleted, though, were not actually claimed to contain copyrighted information. Ms McGeath's exact language was “we have found pages that are under construction to display further copyrighted materials”. This does not seem to me to be “Possible copyright violation” at all, and Ms McGeath's construction of our intent to display copyrighted information is itself a speculation on her part, not a claim of copyright violation.

There is an aspect of the present discussion that you may not be aware of, namely that the Toastmasters International online catalog is expressly 'not' under copyright, and that much of the content on the pages under consideration was based on that source. I believe that what Ms McGeath might be confused over is that some of that same content may appear in other, copyrighted, material (e.g., the Toastmasters International catalog, which is itself available for free download from their website, albeit copyrighted). Furthermore, substantially the same information is being served up on multiple websites on the Internet, and these pages have been in existence for years.

As one of the concerned parties and the creator of the pages involved, I would like to know what Erich and I may expect in future? Will our wiki pages be deleted whenever a claim of copyright violation is communicated to you, regardless of its merit? What will satisfy wikia.com that a page we may create is free of copyright violation in the face of possibly erroneous claims to the contrary by a third party (like Toastmasters International. Inc.)? (I do understand the legal exposure of your own firm in this matter, and I certainly have no desire to jeopardize your firm or our relationship.)


 * Hi, this is an issue we will have to deal with via email. You can contact us at community@wikia.com or via the contact form.  In the mean time, admins are able to view deleted pages, categories with deleted text will still show lists of categorised pages (for example this one), and there is a full list of all pages on the wiki at w:c:toastmasters:Special:AllPages.  So you should be able to review the other pages and solve any copyright issues.  It's great to hear you are already working on this :) -- sannse (talk) 21:51, 30 May 2009 (UTC)

Hide IP ?
Hi,

On Désencyclopédie, Morpheusneon edited the Page Zététique while he had forgotten to log in. He asked me to hide his IP address so that no one could see it in the page history. Is it possible ? -- 20:16, 31 May 2009 (UTC)


 * You can delete the article, then restore all but that 1 edit. -- 20:19, 31 May 2009 (UTC)

Adminship removal
Hi Sannse, a while ago I requested to become an admin on the Dynasty Warriors Wiki and so i did become one, now however I would like to have that adminship removed. I am leaving the DW wiki due to the fact that I have no time to edit it anymore and have lsot the desire to do so, therfore I would like to have my adminship removed. Thanks in advance.--Aeon lord92 10:13, 1 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Hi, we don't usually worry about removing flags when admins decide to move on... there's no harm in leaving them in most cases, and it means they are there if the admin changes their mind one day. So I'd recommend just leaving it, there is no obligation for you to edit :) -- sannse (talk) 20:35, 1 June 2009 (UTC)

Admin Tools Wiki
Hi, after you replied to my messages at, I started 2 polls and a discussion on Admin Tools Wiki about allowing bureaucrats to give +/- bot and administrators to give +/- rollback. The discussions and polls at Admin Tools Wiki:Noticeboard have lasted for 2 weeks now and there is clear consensus that most users would like these changes. The reason for these changes is mainly because several users on the wiki would like to test the bot user rights that are not included in other user groups (such as bot, nominornewtalk and suppressredirect); therefore, it would be easier if the bureaucrat (User:RyanCross) could give bot flags to users so that it is not necessary to ask Wikia Staff every time. Since administrator rights are given to almost any user who is active on other wikis, administrators giving rollback should not be a problem either. Please could you tell me how these changes can be made? Thanks. SUL 15:35, 3 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Hi, as I said above, we don't usually do this. I've passed this on to the rest of the team for discussion -- sannse (talk) 17:24, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks for making the changes. SUL 15:45, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

Need Adminship removed
Hey Saanse, it's Spike's Girl from the ThatGuyWithTheGlasses/Channel Awesome wiki. We've just been informed by the staff at TGWTG that one of their admins has lost his privileges on both the site and the wikia, effective as of now. Could you please remove his admin status here? We have banned him, but his status still needs to be taken away. The user in question is ThatAussieGuy. We would really, really appreciate it if you could do this. Thanks! ~Spike's Girl of the TGWTG wiki
 * Hi, you can do this now :) Just make the necessary changes at w:c:thatguywiththeglasses:Special:UserRights. -- sannse (talk) 17:20, 5 June 2009 (UTC)


 * ) Thanks Sannse! This will definitely make things easier. ~Spike's Girl

Hey sannse, in addition to what Spike's Girl just said, could you remove the adminship of this user on the Webkinz Fanon Wiki. I saw that Icmer In Nys (the lead bureaucrat) had banned him, taken away the powers that he could and deleted his page but then I tried the same thing on myself and I escaped from that predicament easily, so once again, can you please take away the powers of this user-- Webkinz  the Bcrat   yaps   +look  04:33, 6 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Admin rights had already been removed. I removed bureaucrat rights.  It's very strange that this oddly named account with no edits had that right anyway... it's not something that should be given out that carelessly -- sannse (talk) 18:37, 8 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Alex001 gave rights to like everybody, since you're at it, can you take them away from:Happyface414 and Teddybear they have 0 edits, I have 48, Icmer In Nys has 73 Webkinz Mania has 3 Alex001 has 23 (I'm telling you this because you might want to know to decide whether or not these people deserve these rights) and you might want to take away Alex's bureaucrat rights so he doesn't do this more. Also is Edit Page Script supposed to be an admin?

P.S I'll take care of Happyface414-- Webkinz  the Bcrat   yaps   +look  01:28, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

Spotlight space reservation issue
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-Afker All hail AliceSoft! 09:26, 4 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Thanks Afker -- sannse (talk) 17:22, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

Top User List
The top users list over at our wiki isn't working - it hasn't updated in 2 months and the standings have dramatically changed in that time. Is there anyway you can force update it, and/or put a feature on the Wiki to manually update it in the future? -Kind Regards, 10:44, 7 June 2009 (UTC) P.S. Could you reply on either my talkpage at MLNW or central. Then I'll get a nice banner :)
 * We are aware of the 'top user' problem on all wikis (both the menu, the widget and the special all use the same source), and are currently investigating the issue. --Uberfuzzy 05:00, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

A few things.
conversation removed


 * Please use Special:contact for all Club Penguin issues. (We will look at all mail sent on this subject, although we may not always feel it best to get involved in community issues.)

Signature
Hi, I would like to know how you can do a signature. Thanks!--Matias arana 10 03:01, 9 June 2009 (UTC)
 * You may find some help on English Wikipedia under Customizing your signature.-- BlueDevil Talk 03:16, 9 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks--Matias arana 10 21:41, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

Page counts
Is there a way to find out what the 30,000th page was on memory-alpha? (or if it's a stupid page - like a talk page - what the 30,000+ new cool page is?) Thanks :) &mdash; Morder 10:17, 9 June 2009 (UTC)
 * This is the oldest existing page @memory-alpha: http://memory-alpha.org/en/wiki/Help:Editing Let's call it page #1.
 * This is the newest page: http://memory-alpha.org/en/wiki/Talk:Sherry_(beverage) It's ranked at #85538. (I do count redirects here, it's quick hack, not solid MediaWiki stats.)
 * If we order pages in this way, page #30,000 is... tada.wav... http://memory-alpha.org/en/wiki/The_Garden Is it ok for your needs? -- Nef (talk) 19:17, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

Not quite the right page, the 30,000 page (according to what constitutes and article) should have happened within the past month or so because right now we sit at about 30,400 or so pages. :) &mdash; Morder 20:08, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

Basically, I was going for some sort of "Congratulations Memory-Alpha - we've reached our 30,000th article" (and making article a link to the article...which, hopefully wouldn't be a talk page or something boring :) ) &mdash; Morder 01:12, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for the help -_-
Incase you couldn't tell, the title is sarcastic.

I come to you, needing a CheckUser done on a few people, which you seem to do for everyone else (and you did one on me for christ sakes) and what do you do? Delete the conversation and tell me to use Contact.

I take it the fact that Knuckles The Echidna is a sockpuppet of a person who was wikia-wide banned by Uberfuzzy has no meaning to you.

And I'm also guessing that because of the Runescape Wikia's mis-labelling me as Total Rune, when in actuality, he is a neighbour and friend of mine, obviously has nothing to do with this.

I seriously don't know why anyone comes to you for help, since all you do is tell them all to use Contact.

This is the last time I ask you or any other Wikia staff for help.  λ T 20:18, 9 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Hi, Club Penguin is a very specific and long term issue. Because of that, we ask that all messages about that wiki are sent by Special:Contact.  And because of the number and types of mail we get about the wiki, we do not guarantee that we will reply to all.  I also strongly recommend that, unless an issue from CP directly impacts your home wiki, that you (and all users) leave the wiki to its community. I'm sure you understand this is not in any way personal, this is about the wiki and not about you.  -- sannse (talk) 20:33, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

Mailing list
Hello. I am admin from the greek Frikipaideia. Our mailing list has a problem. It doesn't appear. Is there anything which we can apply in order to make it work. Thank you.--Γούντιος ΙΔ&#39; ο Μυγοκτόνος 13:30, 10 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Hi, I don't see one for that wiki on the list. Has it ever been used?  We only make them on request now, and any old ones that had never been used were removed.  But I can make one for you if you need it -- sannse (talk) 08:43, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

We need the list because we want to send some emails to inactive users. So it's useful. If possible create the list and let me know. Thank you. --Άβε, Γούντιος Μουσώνιος Ρούφους 08:46, 12 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Inactive users wouldn't be on the list... Users have to sign up for mailing lists, so email would only go to those who do that once it's made. Is it still something you want? -- sannse (talk) 08:52, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

Of course, it's still useful... Thank you.--Άβε, Γούντιος Μουσώνιος Ρούφους 08:39, 13 June 2009 (UTC)

About my new Wikia
I just made one, located here, for my own educational purposes, sort of a sandbox for me to test out various Wiki-features. Is there a way I can make it administrators-only, or does that have to be done by you?  λ T 01:07, 11 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Also, is there a way for me to get rid of the new "rich text editor", and go back to the one that Central Wikia uses right now?  λ T 01:08, 11 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Ok, I found out how to disable it, but in the process, I realized that I screwed my Wiki up when I named it "The Playground", so I asked Uberfuzzy a few minutes ago if he could delete my entire wiki so I can quickly remake it, and properly name it this time.  λ T 03:51, 11 June 2009 (UTC)
 * There's no need to a delete a wiki and remake it to rename it. Staff can easily rename it without doubling the work :) -- 03:52, 11 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Oh! Wow. Ok, didn't know that. Heh. Err..in that case, can I just get it renamed to "Daedryon's Wiki"?  λ T 03:59, 11 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Hi, I see it's been renamed, Uber is fast ;) -- sannse (talk) 17:01, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

Favicon
Hi, I was wondering if when you got the time you could make a favicon for the Grey's Anatomy and Private Practice Wiki ? If you have the time could you reply on my talk page aswell please? Thanks.-2Anthony4 08:42, 11 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Reply at User talk:2Anthony4


 * Thanks.-2Anthony4 19:41, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

The Mentalist Wiki
Hi there, I wanted to know who was the admin of The Mentalist Wiki because I wanted to request to be a sysop. Thanks! --Matias arana 10 23:55, 11 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Hi, you can find this via Special:ListUsers on that wiki. Just select for admins (including all edits) and you will see who is flagged there -- sannse (talk) 08:48, 12 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Hey, I looked for the admin and bureocrat and it is Carlos21ok, he has done 0 revisions (edits)(you can see here) and he last logged in on October 15, 2008, so I wanted to be a sysop so I can help with pages you need to be a sysop (like logos, etc.) but I will never be one with that Admin that hasn't even created a user page. Please help. Thanks! By the way, I've edited several articles, templates, etc.--Matias arana 10 21:32, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

Welcome from you on the other Wikia page for Trams
Hi Sannse,

I have created an account on that other Wikia page for Trams! :) Thanks for welcoming me! I live in Belgium and in my town (Antwerpen) we have PCC trams and new type derived from the ones in Dresden (Germany), which we call "HermeLijn". I like the old ones the best! :)

Take care and till next time!

--Autiman 00:20, 12 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Hi, I'm not active on that wiki in particular, I know nothing about Trams :) I'm just set to welcome people at times through the auto-welcome tool, and you are very much welcome :) --- sannse (talk) 08:47, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

Setting Wikia to Bureaucrat/Sysop only
Daedryon Wiki. Could you be a dear and set it so only admins can edit? Thanks! <div style="cursor: default; display: inline; white-space: nowrap; border: outset 2px #000000; -moz-border-radius: 1em; color: orange;"> λ T 01:00, 12 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Yes, the IP was me >.> Forgot to re-authenticate my login session. <div style="cursor: default; display: inline; white-space: nowrap; border: outset 2px #000000; -moz-border-radius: 1em; color: orange;"> λ T 01:00, 12 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Oh hey, it fixed itself. <div style="cursor: default; display: inline; white-space: nowrap; border: outset 2px #000000; -moz-border-radius: 1em; color: orange;"> λ T 01:00, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

Sorry, we don't host private wikis, which means we don't ever limit editing to admins. -- sannse (talk) 08:45, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

The welcoming of me; second message
Dear Sannse,

I understand that you were just given the job to welcome people on Wikia. You don't have to be well informed about trams; or be a tramfan. I totally get the message. Thanks for being so friendly! :)

Best regards,

--81.241.6.141 18:32, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

New blue Wikia's favicon
Can you add new blue favicon to Suomen Wikia? Thanks! -- Wappedia (Talk) ™ 19:16, 13 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Hi, I have done. -- Wappedia (Talk) ™ 21:23, 13 June 2009 (UTC)

My older Request
Webkinz Fanon Wiki
 * Please take Bureaucrat rights away from:Teddybear
 * If you want to judge the other users
 * I have 48 edits
 * Icmer In Nys has 73
 * Webkinz Mania has 3
 * Alex001 has 23
 * Please judge whether these four deserve these rights (especially Webkinz Mania, hers are only on talk pages)
 * Please take just bureaucrat rights from Alex001 because he is missusing them

P.S Is Edit Page Script supposed to be an admin?-- Webkinz112 My talk page (haha, no link for you) 22:48, 14 June 2009 (UTC)


 * I've removed Teddybear's rights, and bureaucrat from Alex001. It's up to the community who should have rights, I have no opinion on that :)  There is no need for the Edit Page Script to have rights though -- sannse (talk) 11:28, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

Enriched text
Please tell us how to take advantage of the new enriched text, I tried it yesterday but had to disable it when I couldn't get a link to work. I typed a link in the way I normally would but after I saved it it came out as, Hell. It's here, I tried again, here. Then after 2 edits that could be mistaken for vandalism I read up how to turn enriched text off and haven't risked trying it again. Proxima Centauri 11:19, 16 June 2009 (UTC)


 * What you do is you click a button in the toolbar that opens up a new form to create a link. This might be simpler for newer users, but if you have used wikitext for quite a while (like you and me), it is simpler to switch to source mode if you want to make a lot of links in a short time. Hoping this helps, and with apologies to sans for interrupting, Wjxhuang,  the 888th Avatar  {Talk} 12:24, 16 June 2009 (UTC)


 * It's likely that some wiki markup (including links ) will work in a future version. The feedback we've had is that this would be helpful, and that there are more occasions when people will want brackets to make a link than for them to want them to be "nowiki-ed".  So watch this space :) -- sannse (talk) 11:30, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

Can material from Wikipedia still be used - now Creative Commons
Can material from Wikipedia still be used now that its Creative Commons?. The text of the License is here Wikipedia:Text of Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 3.0 Unported License


 * I hear that Wikia actually intends to release details of a possible (or probable) switch to CC to maintain license compatibility with Wikipedia fairly soon. Stay tuned... Wjxhuang,  the 888th Avatar  {Talk} 12:27, 16 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Yep, there should be more on this on the forum very shortly :) -- sannse (talk) 11:31, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

Personal attacks on a wiki
Dear Sannse, I am being attacked by Bummmer on his wiki, the Megapoo Wiki. How can you allow this to be created? HE is only using it to attack me, on this account and also on MeleeOwner, so please can you do something? Thank you, Jam08Jam
 * It seems this is much more to do with off-line issues than Wikia - as everyone on that wiki is editing from the same place. Looking further, I see that the IP you share has vandalised and otherwise caused problems on several wikis. So I will be blocking it globally for a while, as well as closing the wiki. -- sannse (talk) 20:16, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

Specialpages
Hi! I want to ask you how can I edit a wiki's special pages. I am sure that there are many things which have to be changed so that's why I'm asking you. Please answer to my discussion page. --nikos 05:38, 18 June 2009 (UTC)
 * replied there -- sannse (talk) 20:55, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

Dear Sannse
Dear Angela,

We have since several months a problem concerning the situation on the wiki and between the users

There is a bureaucrat that has vandalized our wiki and that has blocked several innocent people... Our wiki is about a fictional republic called Libertas He nearly caused a war between users by separating a part of the country. And nobody could stop him because of his admin rights. He has already taken somebody's admin rights away (of User:TahR78) without a reason. He starts blackmailing me, the chosen president of the republic, that he'll take my rights too if I don't obey. He already said that he wants to make other users, friends of his, admins. I would like to ask you if you want to help us. Today he has deleted more than 120 articles (!)

It's about the bureaucrat User:Ooswesthoesbes that is able to cause an online war on this wiki, that will cause another inactive wiki. There have been many fights this month so I would please ask you if you could prevent this situation by taking his admin rights. "This user has already caused many fights. When he is getting sick of it, he autoblocks himself and says he'll leave. This happened for already 14' (see log/block) times.

The link of the wiki: [http:www.stad.wikia.com Wikistad] The name of the bureaucrat: Oostwesthoesbes Recent deleted articles: Deleted articles The persons he has blocked:Blocked persons

Yours sincerely, Greenday2


 * Hi, I'm sorry, this is a community problem, and not one I can help with. I suggest making another wiki - although past dramas in this group suggests that will probably lead to more of the same -- sannse (talk) 21:02, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

Favicons
I think (don't know) that the Mario and Sonic at the Olympic Games wiki wants one, I'm not an admin there but they don't have one so they probably want one (also, could you help the Koala and In Real Life) wikis with there's (I am an admin there)). Thanks in advance-- Webkinz112 My talk page (haha, no link for you) 16:37, 20 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Sadly, I've not been finding time for favicon making recently. I suggest trying an auto-generator like these.  -- sannse (talk) 21:09, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

Catalan Althistory
Could an interwiki to the Catalan version of Althistory be added to our ever expanding family of alternate history wikis? :) --Karsten vK (talk) 17:34, 21 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Hi, could you list what you need on Interwiki requests? If you follow the instructions there, it will make it a lot easier for us to make the links :) Thanks -- sannse (talk) 21:12, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

IP block problem
See section 27, Personal attacks on a wiki? The global IP block is causing MASSIVE problems with the non-vandals who actually want to do good on the wikis. Can you please change the block so that it is anonymous users only, please. We are fine with the global block, keep account creation off to prevent vandals, but please make it anonymous users only and leave any vandals set up on other computers to the specific wiki’s admins. We are not all vandals here, we are a school with some vandals. Please allow the ones who want to do good to continue editing our favourite wikis. Thank you very much, MeleeOwner, Spokesperson.


 * Having looked at some of your contributions, I don't see a reason to change the block at this time. -- sannse (talk) 21:21, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

What to do about Template:GFDL image template?
What is to be done about links to the above template? There are 57 links on Wikia:Christianity alone. Should it be done manually or can a bot do it? I've changed every other Copyright link from GFDL to CC-BY-SA. Kathleen.wright5 12:02, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

Hi. Uberfuzzy has been using a bot to fix templates, but he's not automatically doing image templates. Images aren't necessarily affected by the switch, although they can be moved to the CC license. If Christianity wants to do that for image, I can ask Uber to help with the change -- sannse (talk) 21:28, 23 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Leave them as they are, that will give Uberfuzzy a bit less to do. Kathleen.wright5 21:41, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

Errors
Hey. This is Cferra from the TGWTG wiki. I'm getting alot of errors when I try to work on the page. It's also been really slow. Do you by any chance know what's going on? - Cferra 17:59, 23 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Hi, yes, there are some server issues around at the moment. The technical team is working on it, and hope to have it resolved soon.  Sorry for the problem! -- sannse (talk) 21:28, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

Unfair Block
Dear Sannse,

On the Log Wiki, I was believe blocked unfairly. This problem now has two instances (the other wasn't related to me personally, so I didn't take action) the other being Walrus1. This user, Icenator189 is harassing the users of that wiki. I (and walrus) have 0 edits there yet I am blocked and insulted as seen on my talk page for no apparent reason than he doesn't like me. I would like to request that you either:Take away his powers or (the more probable one) close the wiki. If you go to the wiki, you will see that it has 0 articles to do with logs and is just used to get back at users. Thanks in advance. (Webkinz112)


 * Hi, please see your user page on webkinz.wikia for my reply there. -- sannse (talk) 12:37, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

It's not there?!? All I see is a message from Richard1990 - (Webkinz112)


 * Sorry, I forgot I had answered on my page, under your question. I see you found it.  I would say that the most important skill to learn here is of not reacting to those that try to provoke you :)  Once you can do that, life becomes a lot easier ;) -- sannse (talk) 10:53, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

Favicons have disappeared
Why have the favicons of various Wikia's disappeared? At first I thought it was just Christianity Wikia, but I've looked around and it seems to be Wikia wide. They've been replaced by the standard Wikia favicon. Kathleen.wright5 09:39, 25 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Hi Kathleen. We have a bug with favicons at the moment, which means the default is showing through instead of the custom ones.  The tech guys know about it, and hopefully will have it fixed soon.  Sorry about this -- sannse (talk) 12:42, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

Hello just wondering if the tech guys have fixed this yet? I'm "Viperpulse", a new user, but I'm just not logged in at the moment. My favicon isn't showing either, simply just the blue W. I just see that you said there was a bug about a month ago, so wondering if it has been fixed. Thanks.


 * Hi, I see the v favicon on http://vipertvshow.wikia.com - is that the one you mean? If you don't see it yet, it may be your browser cache that's the problem.  Try visiting this link and then hit Ctrl and F5.  That may clear it. -- sannse (talk) 17:57, 13 July 2009 (UTC)

NekdozWikipedie - returning vandal
Hi Sannse, I need some advice about one vandal, that keeps returning again and again. We BANned him and his 3 puppet accounts, but he keeps returning through proxy servers and he's insulting almost all active users. I just don't know how to get rid of him. I just have to keep reverting his attacks...

What would you do?? I would really appreciate any kind of help..

from Necyklopedie --Ráďa 19:09, 25 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Maybe temporary global lock for editing I.P.'s and creating new accounts.. He's really ruinig everything and we would write a sitenotice and apologise to all other i.p.s... Of course if it is possible for just 1 wiki... And if it is possible at all... --Ráďa 10:41, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

Hi Ráďa, I see the Necyklopedie has the protect site extension enabled. I think this is what you need. This allows admins to lock the site from editing, or moves, and so on. You can choose whether this affects anon users only, or all except admins. It's not a feature that should be over-used, and it should only be used as a protection in a vandalism attack, but I think it will help you. The feature is at http://necyklopedie.wikia.com/wiki/Speci%C3%A1ln%C3%AD:Protectsite -- sannse (talk) 21:21, 26 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Thank you very much, I didn't know about this special site. --Ráďa 07:58, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

Vandal and no Admin
There's some bad vandalism on the Get Smart Wiki. We don't have anybody who can ban the vandal. Could you please help while I undo the vandalism? - Count Caterpie. Get Smart Wiki
 * taken care of --Uberfuzzy 22:14, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks Uber - sannse (talk) 10:54, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

OK
I don't think talk pages will be used much anymore... anyhow, on this page, could you please follow the amount of votes accordingly, whichever users have more nos than yeses demote them to nothing, and for Cowlover, we have to wait for GG113 to vote-- Webkinz112 My talk page (haha, no link for you) 15:16, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Hi, if this is admin removals only, then any bureaucrat can do that. If it's bureaucrat flags too, then please give me a list of those that need changing.   You need to make that decision from the votes, rather than me.  Thanks -- sannse (talk) 17:26, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

Um, Hi o_O Anyhow, it's not just admins, bureaucrats too but I don't like saying bureaucrat because it takes so long to type and I hate typing eau (I don't like the word beautiful). Anyways, they're Iayami and NeoGal-- Webkinz112 My talk page (haha, no link for you) 16:31, 3 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Hi, I removed NeoGal's rights. Are you sure about the other?  Seems the only votes there are to keep Iayami as admin... -- sannse (talk) 09:04, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

Oh ya, sorry about that :( Anyhow, thanks!-- Webkinz112 My talk page (haha, no link for you) 15:12, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

IRC Channel
Hello Sannse. I am Azul from the Kingdom Hearts Wiki. Lately, wiki activity has been at an all time high, but not for the right reasons. It seems there's been more socializing than contributing. I was wondering how I can make an IRC channel for our wiki. I can add my wiki channel to the list of wikis at the IRC wikia site. I'm not that familiar with IRC registering and all that, and I was hoping that you could help me, or direct me to a help page. Thanks. -<font color="#4682B4">Azul (talk ・contribs) 01:04, 7 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Hi, to get a channel added to the list you just need to give us the details via Special:Contact. But first you need to create the channel and register it.  To create it, you just join it, but I don't know the details on the commands to register.  The best people to help are those on IRC.  If you join the #wikia channel, there should be someone there who can give you some advice. Once it's all done, just drop us a line and we'll get it on the list. -- sannse (talk) 09:17, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

LightVDarkness mini-logo
I am Amy Cotton of the LightVDarkness wiki. I know you may not want to do this, but we are in need of a mini-logo. We want our logo to be of a pink heart to represent Kingdom Hearts. Can you help me with it? You may show me a place that can help me you know. Thank you, Amy Cotton 02:53, 9 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Hi, I have one on my other computer for you... a heart was a quick one. I'll try and upload it tomorrow :) -- sannse (talk) 20:11, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Uploaded... it should show once the cache has cleared. I hope it's OK! -- sannse (talk) 12:17, 14 July 2009 (UTC)

Wiki and Affiliate
Hello Sannse, I'm Bluer from the Megami Tensei Wiki. Over there, we have an affiliation with a fansite called Digital Devil Database, and recently one of its administrators, yksniehtycul, has been made a sysop. As a result, the wiki is now made accessible over at digitaldevildb.com - except that it's not editable over there.

But as of late, I felt like the wiki is treated to accomadate to the digitaldevildb.com structure: this includes adjusting tables to fit the width of the digitaldevildb.com content page, proposing to lessen use of wiki coding and trying to advertise the site across the page wherever possible.

Is doing so allowed by Wikia - I mean the whole catering to another fansite structure that is. It does seem like "ownership" to me. Please reply, thank you. <font face="Trebuchet MS"> BLUER   一番   18:41, 9 July 2009 (UTC)


 * Hi Bluer. In general, affiliations with outside sites (and formatting related to that) are completely up to the wiki community.  However, putting in adverts for the other site is less clear-cut.  As they are offering the the same content, it seems as though that is going to directly compete with the Wikia wiki - not something I would think would be good for the wiki.
 * There is also a problem in that the site appears to be mirroring Wikia directly. That is, they are using our resources and bandwidth to show the content.  That's not on without permission, and we generally block sites doing that.  I've asked for a hold on that to allow those involved to talk to us about this, perhaps you could let them know of the problem?  Thanks -- sannse (talk) 21:00, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
 * You can contact User:Yksehtniycul. He is from digitaldevildb.com, and the one responsible for mirroring Wikia content on that site. <font face="Trebuchet MS"> BLUER   一番   03:04, 14 July 2009 (UTC)


 * I worry this is more personal than practical. Bluer has a history of zealously owning the wiki here (a fine wiki) which had driven away the founder and other top editors. I was encouraged by the other editors to speak some sense into Bluer, and everyone seems to now be on good terms, and sysop privileges was hoisted upon me without my asking. I fear this represents more the limits of Bluer's patience for my presence.


 * <small style="line-height:1.1em">As for mirroring the wiki. I as the administrator of digitaldevildb.com assumed Wikia's mission was inline with Wikipedia. To provide the world with wikis foremost, the ads only a means to an end. I was under the impression content on wikia is public commons. The mirror at digitaldevildb.com in terms of traffic is insubstantial, and the ads in the sidebar are simply part of a template that is applied to the entire website. We target ads more directly on other pages, but the mirror of megamitensei.wikia. are ostensibly ad-free. If the fact that there are no ads is what you would call "competing" then perhaps the mirror effort is guilty as charged. That said the complete revenue for the website is not even enough to pay for hosting the website for a year, even though it is the premier English website catering to Megami Tensei exclusively. The pages are cached for hours. Requesting pages from wikia.com is of course the only way to obtain them, as do countless sites mirror wikipedia content amongst other wikis. It's impossible to imagine any other scenario that would not require "direct mirroring". I requested tables fit into an 800px horizontal format. This is good practice for any website, the wikia sidebar is the same size as the sidebar at digitaldevildb.com. I also requested th elements not be used for data cells (this change had no visual impact on the wiki pages) which is of course minimum best practice. Otherwise no requests have been made to accommodate the format of digitaldevildb.com.


 * Bluer has been very helpful, and initially gave us express permission to do so. We simply want to provide the information in the wiki as supplemental information in our site search. Or site is well known, and the involvement of the two can only be a net positive for wikia.com. Our content is readonly, for a streamlined experience, with a link to wikia first thing on the page. Our content can also be read on mobile phones without any user intervention. --Yksehtniycul 18:55, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Just for the record, Sannse, since yksehtniycul saw it fit to describe me in a bad light, the founder, icysugarspike and I are in good terms. He has never expressed his dissatisfaction with my work, and in fact welcomes my edits and views to the wiki. He was and has not been "driven away" by me, it's because he chose to handle another wikia. In fact, he actually chose to be away from the other top editors to avoid arguments. Of course, if my word isn't enough you can check the founder's talk page. I hope there's nothing with me trying to clarify things :p <font face="Trebuchet MS"> BLUER   一番   00:21, 15 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Hi Yksehtniycul. Using the content is not an issue, that's allowed under the CC-BY-SA license that megamitensei.wikia and other Wikia wiki use.  And that license specifically allows commercial use, so ads are also not a problem.  However, if you are directly using our resources to mirror the site, that's another matter.  We regularly block sites from doing this, as does Wikimedia.  I asked our technical team to hold off on blocking for a while, because you have a relationship with the wiki and I didn't want to interfere with that.
 * We do provide content downloads for sites that want to reuse content - usually via http://wikistats.wikia.com/dbdumps/dbdumps.html but currently on request (due to some server work).
 * I saw that you cache, and that's a help, but that doesn't solve the problem entirely. I'm not one of the technical staff, but perhaps I can put you in contact with one of that team to discuss this?  If you mail us at community@wikia.com I can put you in contact with the right person. -- sannse (talk) 13:09, 15 July 2009 (UTC)
 * I'm not accustomed to being mixed up in personal back-and-forths... and this is not a high priority for me. But I will try to stay in touch until we do get blocked from requesting pages. Firstly, I just want to say that I think our downloading the pages is the least wikia could do in return for the Megami Tensei enthusiast community, which is building the wiki here. Probably many of the wiki editors and readers first link to the site from the sidebar at our website. Finally, barring something akin to a <abbr title="content versioning system">CVS ), if we downloaded the content rather than requesting it on demand, the hit to your server would probably be something on the order of a thousand fold, and that would also be a hit to our server. Though important in it's own right, I can't imagine a day when the Megaten community would be so mainstream that it would make more sense to regularly download the contents of the wiki all at once (or one page at a time.) That said I would be interested in backing up the wiki from time to time if possible, and I would be happy to contact someone to make arrangements for that purpose. --Yksehtniycul 17:34, 15 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Hi Yksehtniycul. The downloads are generally available from a different server, which means that any extra load does not affect the main site - that's where the difference is (as I understand it).  I think the best thing is for me to ask one of our technical team to look at this, and see what will work best for us all.  -- sannse (talk) 11:22, 16 July 2009 (UTC)

All Pages of one wiki in another one?
Hello Sannse, some months ago I asked if it would be possible to search the content of a wiki with the search engine of a related one. I was specifically thinking of D&D Wiki, which scope encompasses, but should not replace, Spelljammer Wiki and others. The result then was that this is not easily done, so I instead created lists that correspond to the All Pages of the wikis with the narrower scope. They would have to be updated manually however. Do you see any possibility that a bot could be created/used to do that? And if it would indeed be possible, is there a chance this could be applied to a none-Wikia wiki, like the Great Library of Greyhawk? Thanks a lot! Daranios 12:43, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Hi, yes this could probably be done with a bot. You might want to ask on the forum to see if someone can help you set this up.  Several users use bots, so possibly one will know more than I about getting them going. -- sannse (talk) 21:02, 13 July 2009 (UTC)

Toastmasters (moved down for ease of reading)
User:ArthurOgawa writing on 2009 July 15:

Just over a month ago, you removed most of the content of the landing page for the Toastmasters wiki "removing most of the page for copyright review". It has now been long enough for a reasonably diligent effort at doing this job. Would you please let me know when you expect to have completed it? I would like to point out that in the meantime our wiki appears broken, and visitors lack even the navigation tools to dig deeper into the site. Is there any reason why we cannot at least have navigation tools on our landing page while you complete your review? Indisputably, the nav tools themselves are a priori free of copyright violations.

While I am discussing this process of copyright review, it would suggest it appropriate for you to let me and User:ErichV know on what basis you are reviewing the landing page. In particular:
 * Did someone claim that page had copyrighted material?
 * What material on that page, specifically, was claimed to be copyrighted?
 * What copyrighted publication, was it claimed, did the putative copyrighted material come from?

As I have made clear in the past, the intention of those contributing material to the Toastmasters Wiki is by all means to comply with applicable laws, such as copyright laws. We have acted responsibly to communications from Toastmasters International in this connection. And I hope that in due course we may carry out our work further, with the knowledge that the admins, such as yourself, are satisfied that such concerns have been been properly addressed.

Thank you for your attention.


 * Hi Arthur, it's down to the community to review the page.  The key element is to ensure that all content on the page is original work... even if you personally believe that the content from elsewhere is OK to use.  It's clear there is a dispute about reuse of content that you believe is in the public domain, and simply avoiding that content is going to be best.
 * In answer to your questions (which I think I have done before?) Yes, we received a DMCA takedown notice for the page, which means that we, as the content hosts, are obliged to remove it.  The takedown notice did not (and does not have to) specify further than to say the page was violating their copyright, and did not specify what publication was involved (content does not need to be published to be copyrighted, so there is no obligation to list a publication either).  They just stated that they were the copyright holders and required us to remove the page.  As it was clear that at least some of the content on the page could not be involved, I left a basic outline there, and they seemed satisfied with that.
 * So now it's down to you. You are welcome to rebuild the page... but if it contains any content taken from Toastmasters International, then I would expect that they would again contact us for it to be removed.
 * Just as a note (as Catherine mentioned by email) I'm currently in the midst of traveling... I'm moving country, and won't have full internet access for the next week or so.  But I'll try to reply to any messages as quickly as possible.  Or you can contact Kyle while I'm away - he's also aware of the situation.  -- sannse (talk) 11:16, 16 July 2009 (UTC)

User:ArthurOgawa writing on 2009 July 17: The “community” you are referring to above, those needing to review the page (specifically, Toastmasters landing page), appears to be User:ErichV and I. ErichV was the one who authored most of the content of that page, and I guess I am the person most exercised to rectify problems that are coming at the wiki in connection with the DMCA.

I will review this page's content and substitute content that is original.

As to the “dispute about reuse of content that you believe is in the public domain”, that discussion has nothing at all to do with our landing page. That page in fact is believed to have entirely original content.

What is news to me is that you think that you had already explained to me that the page was being taken down per the DMCA. No, Sannse, you had not explained that to me before. The only thing you did, that I saw, was to add a comment to your action, which then appeared in the page history, as “removing most of the page for copyright review”. Not much of an indication that the DMCA had been invoked.

By observing how you work, I now have a somewhat better picture of your process:
 * 1) Upon receiving the “DMCA takedown notice for the page”, you then remove the page, and
 * 2) You leave it up to the wiki users themselves to detect your action and to reestablish the page, using only your comment in the page history as a guide