Forum:Issues with Halo Nation

==Chat Room Debacle==


 * Hello, fellow Wikiapedians. My name is Leon, and I am currently an Administrator at the Fallout wiki. (Nukapedia) This is going to be a complete backtracking of the entire event, so please bare with me as I'm going to describe every little detail. Two days ago, we had a minor incident in chat where chat members from the ICarly wikia wiki decided to invade our chat. After talking about the incident some afterwards, we all decided to hop around as a group to other chat rooms around Wikia to see how their communities compared to ours. Our first stop was the ICarly wikia wiki, and they were actually quite nice people, and we even learned a couple things from them, which led to us finally adding in our own custom chat room welcome message.


 * Our next stop was the Halo Nation's chat room. We have always had a sour relationship with Halo Nation, but they had recently purged most of their leadership for corruption reasons. Because of this, we were hoping it would be a lot more pleasant of an experience, but we were met with instant hostility, which led to all of us being banned. (DISCLAIMER: It is clearly defined in Wikia general policies that Administrators must take everything as good faith at first, until actions prove otherwise. It is not the job of an Administrator to ban people.) Many of us never even got more than a sentence or even a word out before being unjustly banned. You may find the chat logs, here. As you can see, none of did anything to disrupt their chat, and yet they claimed we were invading and harassing users. This was quite obviously a lie, and me and the user Great Mara stood up to them over this entire debacle. We were banned as a result, and it wasn't until their Administrator T3CHNOCIDE came into our chat at Fallout, did we get a chance to explain our side of the story.


 * I managed to have myself unbanned to present my case, but no one else was pardoned, so I made sure to make my case known on the Administrator's talk-page that had banned all of us. (Along with the chat moderator SGT D Grif.) I asked him for proof, as their policies clearly dictate that all bans must be backed up by evidence. You may find that policy, here. Not only have they refused to show evidence, but they have also made a clear effort to remove my message demanding evidence, as seen here. I was polite through my entire message, so they can not use the excuse that I was using intimidating behaviour. So why am I bringing this incident to all of you here at Community Central? For two reasons:


 * First - There are still Nukapedians who are banned. Many of the users have also not been pardoned from their chat bans, and no apology has been publically withcoming.


 * Second - Myself and multiple other Nukapedians sent in reports to VSTF and Wikia Staff. They seem to be refusing to help, even though we have provided proof of their corruption and their inability to follow general Wikia ToU and policies. This is not the first time either incidents like this have happened, but Wikia Staff seems to enjoy the freedom of letting them abuse users. (This is not a general term for all Wikia Staff and VSTF. This is also just an observation, not an insult.)


 * I'm hoping that this forum will help raise awareness of the actions present at Halo Nation. Thank you for reading, and I'll be looking forward to feedback from you all. Especially from Wikia Staff and VSTF. [[file:Dragon Leon.png|30px|link=User:GarouxBloodline]] Skål! 02:19, August 27, 2012 (UTC)

==Comments== No, you did harass a user about, as seen here. Telling someone they have a stick up their ass is harassment. Why can't you guys just leave us alone? That's all we want.-- Spartacus0898 ( Talk ) 02:41, August 27, 2012 (UTC)


 * You're right. I did. I never hid this fact, as I'm seen apologizing for it in one of the links I posted here. This was in response to the fact that we were unjustly banned, and no one was willing to provide evidence to justify the bans. It was also in response to the fact that Grif came into our Fallout chat and told us all that if we didn't like their actions, we could get over it and never come back. In any case, my message to him was still legitimate. I just made the mistake of using a little ad hominem. [[file:Dragon Leon.png|30px|link=User:GarouxBloodline]] Skål! 02:45, August 27, 2012 (UTC)

Whether the administration at Halo Nation is in the wrong or not, staff (from what I've seen) generally don't get into problems like these. The best advice you're likely to get is to more or less just let it go. Sorry.


 * Absolutely not. If it was just me banned, I would let it go. But I am not going to stand for it when an entire group of users from my home wiki get banned for no reason. It is also the Wikia Staff's problem, as I have provided evidence that the leadership at Halo Nations has broken both Wikia policies and ToU. [[file:Dragon Leon.png|30px|link=User:GarouxBloodline]] Skål! 02:49, August 27, 2012 (UTC)