User talk:Toughpigs/Archive/02

Nature Wiki
Umm, I was wondering if you could add the Nature Wiki to the top bit of the Science and Nature list (top bit meaning the area with the Future Wiki and all), becuase I really could use it being there, then we will get more contributers, which we really need, also it seems fit to be there as it is quite genarel for that topic becuase it's Science and Nature and this Wiki is Nature! So could you please?--Kushan_I.A.K.J (Talk) 09:59, 26 December 2007 (UTC)


 * I added the wiki to the listings at the bottom of the hub page. It's too early for that wiki to be in the top spotlight area -- you've only got 4 pages so far. Keep working on it. -- Danny (talk ) 15:42, 26 December 2007 (UTC)


 * Thanks, ok, I will!--Kushan_I.A.K.J (Talk) 06:26, 27 December 2007 (UTC)

Puppet Wikia main page redesign
Hey Danny, I was wondering if you could give me some advice on a new main page for Puppet Wikia. thanks - Phillip (talk) 19:56, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

SciFi Footer
Yeh i added the footer to the bottom of the Main Page over at the Andromeda Wiki. Thanks Anthil&#39;za 22:06, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

New Footers
I created some footers for the Cartoons and Comics Hub:








 * I think I'll go tag the Animanga wiki and possibly get someone to to Cartoons/Comics. ~ NOTASTAFF Daniel Friesen (DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire) (talk) (tricks) (current topic) Sep 15, 2007 @ 23:19 (UTC)


 * Excellent, I was going to ask you if you wanted to do these. :) If the wiki is active, I've been careful to ask an admin or post on Current events first before putting it on somebody else's page. It wouldn't be good for us to irritate a community by posting something like this without asking first. -- Danny (talk ) 23:52, 15 September 2007 (UTC)


 * Yup, 90% of the Animanga Wikia are either mine (ie: part of Wikia ACG) or inactive. Only one or two are really active. So the only one I really had to ask is the One Piece Wiki. ~ NOTASTAFF Daniel Friesen (DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire) (talk) (tricks) (current topic) Sep 16, 2007 @ 00:24 (UTC)


 * Okay, cool. It'll be nice to see if this helps people to cross over, and check out a bunch of different wikis! -- Danny (talk ) 01:41, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

Hub
Whoops, I was putting all the stars in one area and forgot it was alphabetized. Oops. Plumber


 * No problem! -- Danny (talk ) 23:50, 14 September 2007 (UTC)

Wikia ACG
ACG is a Taiwanese term which means "Anime, Comics, Games" which in North American terms would mean "Anime, Manga, Cartoons, Comics, and Video Games". Graphical Entertainment isn't a term known by anyone, and Afker finally prodded me enough to get me to rename the project. We're mostly renaming because We can't use GE for the wiki, ie http://ge.wikia.com can't be taken by the project. So by using Wikia ACG instead we can use http://acg.wikia.com and also ACG:.. for interwiki (There's a technical system being developed that requires a interwiki link in the map). ~ NOTASTAFF Daniel Friesen (DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire) (talk) (tricks) (current topic) Sep 11, 2007 @ 08:51 (UTC)


 * Well, I'm glad that you dropped the Graphical Entertainment name, but I think this one might be even more confusing. Will English-speaking users know what ACG means? I'm also a little confused about the video games aspect. Are you planning to have the project include all of the gaming wikis? -- Danny (talk ) 09:18, 11 September 2007 (UTC)


 * It's not a widely known name, but neither was Graphical Entertainment. Afker poked me saying that it would be better to use a little known term than a term noone is familiar with. Also he said it would be best to use one where you at least get disambiguation when you look at Wikipedia. See GE, Graphical Entertainment, and ACG. The first one you get General Electric info, and disambig has nothing to do with entertainment. The second one doesn't exist. But if you look at Wikipedia's page for ACG it's a disambig page and the third thing you see there is the explanation of the Taiwanese term. I actually started a terminology page Wikia ACG Terminology.
 * As for the Games part; If you look at the terminology page or Wikia ACG page it explains it a little. The project aims to cover Anime, Manga, Cartoons, Comics, and the games which are related to them. By related to them there are only 2 categories of games which fit under it. Games which cross-over with Animanga or Cartoon-Comic series, or ones which are created in the same style as Animanga or Caroon-Comics. Such as the eroge games AliceSoft Makes (which is why the AliceSoftWiki is part of the project). A large portion of Animanga series cross-over into their own games, and there are universes such as Megaman which are divided between both a large Gaming audience and a large Animanga/Cartoon-Comic audience. So many of the Gaming wiki such as Halopedia, WoW, etc... Don't fit in the project. Only the few that cross-over into the other aspects of the project. ^_^ I think Afker makes a good point and explanation at Anime:Project talk:Wikia ACG. ~ NOTASTAFF Daniel Friesen (DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire) (talk) (tricks) (current topic) Sep 15, 2007 @ 23:14 (UTC)

New fall season template
Created a Template for people who have made one wiki about a tv serie in the Wikia's New Fall Season programm and copyed in to the currently created wikis....

this is the code


 * it will look like this:

(mady by Zizanzu)

- --Zizanzu (Projects) (talk) (About) (current topic) 17:57, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

Big wikis punctuation
Hey, Toughpigs. I noticed you have been reverting my edit(s) on the Big wikis "hub." What's your reasoning for removing the spacing surrounding that em dash? As far as I know (and both The Chigago Manual of Style and The Oxford Guide to Style agree with me), em dashes should not be surrounded by spaces. --Imperialles 22:51, 5 September 2007 (UTC)


 * I just don't think it looks good. That Wikipedia link actually shows that there's a lot of disagreement about how to use dashes. It says that modern practice sets it open rather than closed, and The Elements of Typographic Style recommends an open en dash. Personally, I would rather go back to the way it was originally, an open double dash. -- Danny (talk ) 00:02, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

Big Wikis
Oh well, maybe someday. Sorry to give you extra work to do ;)  Phil.e.   [Talk to me] 15:37, 16 August 2007 (UTC)


 * No, I'm glad you posted -- it reminded me to check on how everybody's doing! -- Danny (talk ) 17:49, 16 August 2007 (UTC)

Forum question
Hi Toughpigs, wondered if you might have any thoughts re the Forum question just posted: Forum:Where is the right place for mid-level stuff? Cheers Philralph 07:38, 16 August 2007 (UTC)

return to Oz
what happened? Today I went to the oz wiki and there were no recent changes, its a ghost town! Did you abandon it? Are you convinced its over? answer please! Random123 01:15, 14 August 2007 (UTC) can and will do. Also, A question; i just found out that mythbusters wiki exists. I suggested that wiki several months ago. Am I an admin or normal? Random123 18:36, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

OtherVerse
That change for the hubs is great! Thanks for your help and advice! --Stamp 16:23, 27 July 2007 (UTC)


 * Great, I'm glad you're happy with it. -- Danny (talk ) 16:29, 27 July 2007 (UTC)

Hubs
Toughpigs, for the Hubs. What do you think about moving the More Hubs button inside of the Box it is above, and then removing the title for the page? It would look cleaner, having a big header like box, a title bar, and a button in the way of the top together doesn't look right. It probably also be worth it to put the More Hubs button inside of a template. ~ NOTASTAFF Daniel Friesen (DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire) (talk) tricks Jul 24, 2007 @ 11:54 (UTC)


 * Hi, Daniel -- The template idea is great; I'll do that now. I'm interested in your idea about how to change the header, but I can't picture it -- could you make a sandbox version so I can see it? -- <font color="Blue">Danny (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 12:59, 24 July 2007 (UTC)


 * I fixed the class so that it won't break the centering or affect centering or positioning in any way. You can rollback the changes in the template and move them back inside the headers. If the link colors match backgrounds to much I can add a background or change the link colors. Just tell me which to do and what colors to use, and tell me which pages to change. ~ NOTASTAFF Daniel Friesen (DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire) (talk) (tricks) (current topic) Aug 1, 2007 @ 21:21 (UTC)


 * The white background has been added to the class. ~ NOTASTAFF Daniel Friesen (DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire) (talk) (tricks) (current topic) Aug 2, 2007 @ 13:53 (UTC)

I have a little idea on the Hubs, it's for the list at the bottom. As you'll see here, through a complex process using parserfunctions and DPL I can automatically turn a DPL list into a 5 column list. Which gives a potential idea. It's actually possible to use DPL to create the list of wiki there. And if we changed from using titles, and added a special HUB template to the pages which are organized into hubs we could use that to draw out the name, link, and also the size of that wiki to determine if the star should be shown or not. What do you think? Don't worry about long repetitive tagging tasks. I can have a bot do that for us. ~ NOTASTAFF Daniel Friesen (DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire) (talk) (tricks) (current topic) Aug 20, 2007 @ 06:16 (UTC)


 * That's cool that you figured out how to do that, and I appreciate the offer. I'd rather not lose the "editorial" control, though. You've probably noticed that some of the existing wikis aren't listed on the hubs. Some wikis are abandoned so early that it's not worth anybody's time to click on them.


 * The hubs are supposed to help users find good content on Wikia. There are so many "dead" wikis right now that if we included them all on the hubs, then new users who are browsing through the hubs might think that there's nothing but dead wikis here. So I don't think it's a good idea to automate those lists, and lose the ability to remove inactive wikis.


 * But there is something that I'd like to ask you, if you know how to do it -- is it possible to automate the page counts on Big wikis? It would be great to replace "over 19,000 articles" with an actual count of how many pages are on the wiki. It would also be good to automate the bottom part of the list, so that stars show up when the wiki reaches 5,000 pages. Do you know how to do that? -- <font color="Blue">Danny (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 14:07, 20 August 2007 (UTC)


 * The hub listing doesn't need to list all the wiki in a category auto be automated. The truth is, it's actually easier to list a limited number of wiki through the automated methods than list all of them. The difference is that instead of making a static list of wiki, you'd add something like <-- ^_^ Though I have a feeling we have less pages than that, rofl. And that would put the wiki into Category:Cartoons and Comics Hub. Then DPL would use that category to list the wiki on the Hub page, and it would extract the needed information from Hub wiki by redirecting it to Template:Hub wiki.item which would create an item in the list. ^_^ So we can automate it making it cleaner, but still only list wiki we want to.
 * Sorry, unfortunately there is no way to grab the stats from another wiki. I was actually thinking about that before you mentioned it, automating that star to show up without user input when the wiki reaches over 500 pages would be nice. But we can't do it with the current stuff... What would be nice is a set of Magic words on central which basically use the stats data from the Magic words on other wiki instead of locally. Something like  . Shouldn't be hard to modify Magic Words to do that on another DB, but I don't know about finding what DB is used for a Wiki, I don't know enough of Wikia's DB structure. ^_^ Maybe we should poke the techs to help... ~ NOTASTAFF Daniel Friesen (DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire) (talk) (tricks) (current topic)  Aug 22, 2007 @ 18:23 (UTC)


 * I just found a site called Wikindex today, which seems to be pulling current stats on wiki activity and number of pages. Do you know how they're doing that? -- <font color="Blue">Danny (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 19:03, 22 August 2007 (UTC)


 * Web spider... But using a spider is something completely different than data querying that can be put into a ParserFunction. Plus this is in Wikia stuff... We can get functions which grab data from the DB directly. ~ NOTASTAFF Daniel Friesen (DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire) (talk) (tricks) (current topic) Aug 22, 2007 @ 19:50 (UTC)

Take a look at Sandbox/3 again... It's been tuned up. It works for staring something after a number greater than 500 pages is put into the pages param, and It only lists the pages you use. ~ NOTASTAFF Daniel Friesen (DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire) (talk) (tricks) (current topic) Aug 23, 2007 @ 09:27 (UTC)

Human Science listing on hubs
I appreciate the need to give fair representation to as many wikis as possible in the hub listings. Since most wikis fall cleanly into a single hub category they do not present a problem, whereas in fact HumanScience spans many categories -- especially spirituality and philosophy (as you noted), social sciences (for which I believe there is no hub at present), literature & cinema, and personal accomplishment (The Secret, personality, accomplishment), etc.

The greatest advance which the WWW provides over traditional linear forms of knowledge is the capacity for cross referencing and linkages between subjects which is the essential objective of Human Science, i.e. to show that from a deeper level spirituality, literature, accomplishment, social development are related and governed by common principles. We are trying to go to the depth where things are connected rather than the surface where they are divided.

All this said, Danny, I don't know how to resolve the dilemma, which will become greater as we develop more parts of the site. But looking at it as it now stands, in addition to spirituality, we believe we have one of the two top sites on the Internet today for Pride & Prejudice. We wanted to list it under books because many visitors who are not at all interested in spirituality may find out original content extremely interesting. It applies to other subjects as well, but we cannot claim the same depth in those fields at this time. garry 05:13, 19 July 2007 (UTC)


 * Hi Garry -- It's true, Human Science touches on many different areas. It's a very interesting site!


 * However, the balance on the hubs is important, to be fair to the other wikis -- especially in the spotlights. Over the last couple of days, you and Rlakshmipriya added Human Science to the spotlights of three hubs. Right now, there's only a few wikis that are spotlighted on two major hubs, and those are some of the largest and most established wikis that we have. I don't think it would be fair to have a relatively new wiki like Human Science spotlighted on three hubs -- or even four or five, if your other hub suggestions were created.


 * I have a suggestion, which is to spotlight Human Science on Philosophy and Religion, where it currently is, and then to list it without a spotlight on a second -- either Books or Science and Nature, as you choose. In a little while, as your site grows and becomes more established, we can revisit the question, and maybe list it on a third hub.


 * I'm just throwing that out as a suggestion, to see what you think. It would also be good to get other people's input on the question. What are your thoughts? -- <font color="Blue">Danny (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 11:58, 19 July 2007 (UTC)

More Hubs
Danny, may i suggest you create additional hubs for


 * 1) spirituality and personal growth -- which is different that religion & philosophy
 * 2) social sciences

rename Books Hub as Books and Movies or create a separate hub for Movies

garry 05:35, 19 July 2007 (UTC)


 * Hi Garry -- Those are good suggestions, thanks! Right now, Movies and TV are both included in the Entertainment hub. -- <font color="Blue">Danny (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 11:33, 19 July 2007 (UTC)

Hubs
Great work on the hubs! I think they'll be very helpful for navigation and finding appropriate wikia. And typical of your work, they are visually attractive. -- CocoaZen 22:52, 16 June 2007 (UTC)


 * Thanks, I'm glad you like them! I have a few more on my list that I'll be making over the next day or so. If you happen to notice any active wikis that are missing from the hubs, please feel free to add 'em to the list. I'm trying to only include wikis that are currently active, or that are inactive but have 100+ pages. But there's new wikis starting all the time, so I'm sure there are going to be some that are left out... I know you're on top of these things. -- <font color="Blue">Danny (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 23:19, 16 June 2007 (UTC)