User blog comment:BertH/New Forums now available in Labs/@comment-2026043-20121204053152/@comment-2026043-20121205010013

@Toughpigs

Personally, I think that there should be a separation between the actual Content(or Contributions as you call them) and the Social hubs of a wiki *. I.e. talk pages/forums/blogs not interfering with actual Articles; like it used to be (or continues to be if the comments and new forum are not activated).

But unlike comments, which straight up tell you "Hey, we are going to interfere with Article structure", and you know that you really want them, in order to activate them, what you have done with the new Forum is more of a dilemma. On the one hand you have greatly improved the forum, something I am sure, a lot of people wished for, but in order to have it you are shoehorning to it a feature, that judging from the comments, not so many wished for. It's both or none.

Anyway, to avoid writing a(n even) lengthy(-ier) reply consisting of things others have already voiced, I prompt you to read this reply from Czechout, if you have not already.

If that cannot make you consider making the embedded forum discussions a separate optional sub-module of the forum feature, nothing, probably, will.

* ..which is completely opposite with the current philosophy Wikia is following, which is to merge these two, I know; and that's why I cannot help but get the feeling that every reply here, asking to remove the embedded discussions, is falling on a brick wall.