User talk:Angela

Welcome to my talk page! I'm not going to be checking this page regularly for a couple of weeks due to vacation and Wikimania, so please contact Wikia staff using the Special:Contact page instead of leaving any messages here.

Thanks,

--Angela.

Recent messages
Recent messages have been archived. If you still need a response, please resend using Special:Contact. Angela (talk) 09:08, 8 August 2009 (UTC)

Remember?
hey Angela, I'm a friend of Andrewrox. He told me that he has a message for you on your emails. Please check them for him. Thanks! --Scradgum111 09:39, 8 August 2009 (UTC)


 * I've replied to him but staff will not be unblocking his account. Angela (talk) 12:57, 8 August 2009 (UTC)

http://images.nocookie.wikia.net
Do deleted images still remain there?-- 11:04, 8 August 2009 (UTC)


 * No, they shouldn't, but they might be temporarily cached there. Angela (talk) 12:57, 8 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Oh, right. I was wondering if I could use an image previously deleted from the Sonic News Network.-- 10:09, 9 August 2009 (UTC)
 * You could ask an admin on that wiki to send you a copy since admins can view deleted images. Angela (talk) 14:18, 9 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Oh, I have a copy. While I'm here, is CheckUser installed here?-- 07:22, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Checkuser is installed, but generally only staff can use it for privacy reasons. If you need a user checked, just drop a note to special:contact and someone will do that for you. Angela (talk) 07:24, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Okay. According to the link, you're Angela Beesley Starling, but I only knew you as Angela Beesley.-- 07:33, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
 * That's because I got married last November and changed my name. :) Angela (talk) 07:36, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

American Idol Wiki
Hi, I would like to take American Idol Wiki, because I have a wiki of the same topic and there is no articles in the other wiki. I want to do this because my wiki is american-idol.wikia.com and americanidol.wikia.com is shorter, so I want to pass all the info of my wiki to the new one, if it is possible, and leave a redirect. Thanks a lot!!!--Matias arana 10 17:40, 8 August 2009 (UTC)
 * The American-idol URL might be better for SEO rather than the version where it's all one word. Angela (talk) 14:18, 9 August 2009 (UTC)
 * What is a SEO???--Matias arana 10 16:38, 9 August 2009 (UTC)
 * SEO means "search engine optimization". What I mean is that people searching for American Idol information are more likely to find your wiki when they search in google if the wiki is american-idol.wikia.com than if it was americanidol.wikia.com. Angela (talk) 01:17, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

About Bioarkistot
I posted this on your talk page earlier, and now it's on Archive 20... I don't know why Special:Contact has to be used, and to ensure the links work properly, I'm posting this here:

''Hello again. I'd like to ask for some help on Bioarkistot.

''First off, is there a way to have Shared Help in Finnish? I found none... Can we translate the Shared Help articles to Finnish and publish them on Bioarkistot? And can we put the text into frames of our own?''

And second, do we actually have a forum (Foorumi'' in Finnish) there? There is no page for it, but is all required stuff available? And what coding should we put in the index (Sisällysluettelo in Finnish)? And should we move Kahvihuone (Village pump) to the Foorumi namespace?''

''And, should these foreign-language Bionicle wikis be linked to the four already linked together (de, en, fi, pl): ''I think at least the first two should. The latter two, judging by their URLs, could also be fanon wikis or something.''
 * es
 * lt
 * nl
 * fr

Thanks already, and keep up the good work.

In addition to these, I'd like to ask if the namespace "Keskustelu Bioarkistotista" (Bioarkistot talk) could be renamed "Keskustelu Bioarkistoista". That's because "Bioarkistot" is plural (it's literally "Bioarchives" in English), and, because of complex Finnish suffixes, "Bioarkistotista" is incorrect while "Bioarkistoista" is the correct form.  -VezonThunder, ylläpitäjä (kesk.) 06:40, 10 August 2009 (UTC)


 * The reason for using special:contact is that it ensures your question will be answered. There's no such guarantee if you post on a wiki talk page.


 * There isn't yet a Finnish help wiki, so shared help can not be enabled, but anyone can create one and once a few Finnish speakers are involved and have said the site is ready for launch, then it could be enabled.


 * There is a forum at fi:Foorumi:Sisällysluettelo - is that what you meant? You could make one on any other wiki using the instructions at Help:Wiki-style forum set up (or use special:contact and someone will be able to help you do that).


 * I've added interlanguage links between the bionicle wikis, but it can take a couple of days before this starts working. For Dutch I used the w:c:nl.bionicle rather than w:c:nl.bionicleworld.


 * Keskustelu Bioarkistotista is now Keskustelu Bioarkistoista.


 * Angela (talk) 07:06, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

CheckUser
Hello, Angela! Can you grant me the CheckUser flag on My Wiki? I want to test this function. Best regards, Mondalor 08:47, 10 August 2009 (UTC)


 * Sorry, but this isn't available to ensure the privacy of Wikia's users. However, if you need a user to be checked, please send a note using special:contact and one of Wikia's community team will do that for you. Angela (talk) 10:36, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

Fantendo
Sorry to bother you Angela, but the following users wish to be demoted from bureaucrats:
 * McQueenMario
 * COKEMAN11
 * JesseRoo

Thank you.

Plumber 00:24, 13 August 2009 (UTC)

Bot Flag
Hey Angela. I have a bot known as Avtbot. It has a botflag on Foamipedia and Suitelife wiki, I was wondering if you could give it one on Phineas and Ferb Fanon, it is to categorize the pages there. Thanks!-- Avatar Talk 20:47, 13 August 2009 (UTC)


 * This was done by BlueDevil. Angela (talk) 02:18, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

Publicity
Hello, friend Angela. First, I would like to personally thank you for taking the time to help me with the blocked IP Address issue; thus far, nothing of the sort has yet occurred again. Please contact me if I am of any use to you at Wikia at all; simply ask your request and it shall be done. However, I beg you to answer my question first: Please, what might be the best method for publicizing your wiki, if it is very new, other than inviting? Is it permitted to message Wikipedian users who seem to have some knowledge about the subject of the wiki and invite them? Wikipedia has long held a certain appeal for me, yet that was long before I knew the existence of Wikia. Nonetheless...Please, why would messaging others on their talk pages asking them of Wikia be considered "spam" by so many, if neither one objects and it does not influence Wikipedia at all. Could one not even provide one link to a Wikia project? I have long respected the rules of Wikipedia, and I still find it to my very great liking, yet this confuses me, as I would not call it spam. What is the exact relationship between Wikipedia and Wikia, then? Does none exist? Does Wikipedia cut itself off from Wikia entirely, with both functioning independently yet ignoring the other? Please enlighten me. Thanks so much, Angela, for taking the time! Ralnon (talk) 16:27, 17 August 2009 (UTC)


 * Have you seen the help page about promotion? Messaging Wikipedians can be risky sometimes as they might see any sort of mass-messaging as "spam" even where the message is wanted or relevant. My recommendation would be to leave a single message on the relevant WikiProject talk page rather than messaging every Wikipedian involved in that project. The companies that run Wikia and Wikipedia are not linked. In terms of the content and linking between the two, that's up to the communities of each, not to the companies operating the projects. Different people within the Wikipedia community have different views, which means that you can get mixed messages when trying to link to Wikia from Wikipedia. In most cases it's fine, but just be careful and be prepared to respond to any complaints that Wikipedia users might make about it. Angela (talk) 18:29, 17 August 2009 (UTC)

Alas, Angela, I was threatened with a block at Wikipedia for messaging other users whom I saw constructively contributing to pages relating to the subject in question, quite suddenly and unexpectedly as well. I was genuinely surprised; always on Wikipedia have I stroven to be courteous and fair to other editors, and my messages were brief, concise to the point and civil. Besides, the majority of those whom I contacted were merely IP Addresses or users lacking user pages and talk pages, whom I thought would perhaps be interested in editing on a wiki rather than on Wikipedia, where articles concerning the subject are extremely few, mostly stubs. I was not active on Wikipedia anyway, and I certainly failed to imagine administrator attention would be drawn so quickly (and, indeed, drawn at all). All my messages informing them of a wiki based on the subject were swiftly deleted and I was told that I would shortly be considered for banning. However, I beg you not to think too poorly of me, as I indeed refrained from editing altogether on Wikipedia after the warnings, instead trying to explain and reason for many hours with the administrators whom had contacted me, to little avail. Of course there is no need to go much into detail, but it seemed that they did not think much of Wikia, and suggested they contact other sysops they were familiar with to further explain to me. I mean not to complain, but even I admit that I wondered why the administrator minded so much over what I had deemed a relatively petty issue. I have since stopped editing there at all, in the hopes that I might one day be forgiven for what they hinted was great damage to Wikipedia itself, but I am still concerned by it at times, when I flip through wiki after inactive wiki and ponder how much both Wikipedia and Wikia might benefit if they were sister projects, or at least tolerated a few links to the other. I have seen many links to Wikia from Wikipedia sites, but the one I placed was enough to cause great dissent and displeasure for many there, called "spam", though, in all truth, I barely know the definition of the word itself. Then, Angela, may I ask these last questions: Is the very link to Central Wikia at Wikipedia's Wikia article permitted, and if so, why, exactly; is it not itself merely a nexus, a portal and a bridge to all the others? Can links or references to Wikia exist on Wikipedia at all; if not, should not anyone who placed a link, on talk pages or articles, be blocked? Can links exist from Wikia to Wikipedia, and if so, why? Than you so much for taking the time; I truly appreciate it. Do not fear, for I do not think I will bother you any time soon at all, so you may have some peace of mind here. Again, thank you. Ralnon (talk) 20:46, 17 August 2009 (UTC)


 * Wikipedia's definition of spam is very broad, and covers things like sending a message to more than one person at the same time. If you're threatened with a block, it's best not to argue on Wikipedia about it as it just inflames the situation and can lead to even harsher results, such as permanent blacklisting of the link you were trying to add. It doesn't mean that no links are allowed - just that a particular admin didn't like your exact actions on that day. There's also a difference between someone who is active on Wikipedia adding a link as part of a large edit they're making to improve an article and someone who doesn't edit except to add a link. The latter is likely to be seen as spam when the first one is seen as constructive editing. Angela (talk) 21:22, 17 August 2009 (UTC)

Angela, still I am confused: Does that mean, if I had, say, made at least a thousand edits there and made such a link, it would be permitted? Truly, I had meant no offense in doing so or trying to explain to the sysops; I beg you not to hold me in low regard for doing so, for I have long since learned from my mistake. I truly am very sorry if I have offended you with this, please excuse me. Again, know that if you would not wish it, nothing of this topic would ever come up here ever again. Thank you so much for all your excellent help and advice, Angela. Ralnon (talk) 21:52, 17 August 2009 (UTC)