Thread:Sannse/@comment-1807002-20160401022418/@comment-1807002-20160404225739

Sorry again, I talk too much when I feel my point isn't getting through/over explain when I think I am being misunderstood X / I understand if you take a few days to get back to me.

The worst thing I did to that Wiki was upgrade to the new infoboxes, made table templates to clean up the excessive coding on pages, made use/helped finish making the pre-existing icon templates, upgraded their navboxes, housekeeping, added missing categories, added categories to all templates added styling and ask before we do a work around make sure we get a community vote. I have pretty much edited/contributed greatly on every page including articles, templates, CSS (just the admins posted the code for me cause I don't have the user rights), categories, etc (which is more than probably both admins put together).

Why? cause the Wiki look very neglected! (even for having active admins). It was hard to follow information all over the place, it still has a few things in desperate need to upgrade/update and because the admins didn't edit in source/use templates it made the wiki over all sloppy (I did only a few tidies (like 3,000+ edits to do those few tidies) and it was like a 300% improvement on most articles). And I was thanked by many editors/viewers because of it.

But I totally feel attacked and villainized by the admins (threats and implementation of banning any and all templates as they see fit (without discussing with the community), not allowing community to vote on a matter that effects us, told I broke things, that I am not trying to help work out the problem, etc.).

And other editors are upset too over this too not just me Thread:1017073, Thread:43994#13, Thread:43595 (which you seem to have not note). I just wish you could at least let the little guys (non-admins) know that we have rights if the community did want to pursue them. I told them I am only going that route if they wanted it, but me alone vs. admins according to your blogs is more worth moving on away from the wiki (which I have).

But you sound like you are saying all the active editors who wanted a community vote (which the admins denied) can move on (which is contrary to your blogs (where a community out voting admins wins)). You may want to re-write your blogs because I only followed them in this matter as best as I could because I thought it was the best practice over the matter. I do my best to follow staff blogs/advice/articles because at least then I can reference or show back up of why I do what I do/say what I say.

All in all I didn't want the admins removed but did want the validation that they were not being good admins over the situation by denying community vote on the matter. And if anything you make me feel your blog posts are not helpful because you are saying them not allowing a community vote over such a matter is fine? And if we out vote the admins decision it doesn't matter? It just sounds like backpedaling to your blogs and that your blogs only work if admins abuse ban/delete/blocking. If you weren't the author of the blogs I wouldn't have asked for your thoughts (I wasn't asking for you to take action).