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Please add new messages to the bottom, thanks :) -- sannse (talk)

pvx builds bugged?
I think something is bugged with the Pvx builds when you download them. Before whenever you would download a build they each had their own name. I just downloaded a few builds and they were all named {art_name} If you try to download any other build it will not matter all of them have the same name. I know it did not used to be like this before, so if you try to download a second build a message will pop up saying this file already exists, and asks to replace. (even though it is a different file, has same name)


 * PvX Wiki is not affiliated with GuildWiki or Wikia. -Afker 22:25, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

I see, thank you. Where are the PvX admins though? Can anyone tell me where i can contact them or give a link, please? Or perhaps this can be forwarded move this to them?


 * There is a list of them at http://www.pvxwiki.com/wiki/Special:Listusers/sysop - you will have to look at contributions to see which are active though (or try the admin notice board, linked in the sidebar) -- sannse (talk) 18:35, 5 November 2007 (UTC)


 * Clicking their names will take you to their user pages. From there you can find their talk pages (like this one) and links to their contributions (to see if they are currently active).  The "sidebar" is the list of links in boxes along the side of each page on the wiki.  One of the links there is to the "admin noticeboard".  That looks like a good option to contact the admins there -- sannse (talk) 19:31, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

IE7 bug report
Hi Sannse, when you come back could you inform me hows the IE issues i reported you on mirc im still getting reports at Special problem report --Cizagna (Talk) 16:12, 4 November 2007 (UTC)


 * Hi Cizagna, it's with the tech team. Hopefully they will be able to cure it soon! -- sannse (talk) 18:35, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

Bots in IRC
Can we get some semi-formal rule about bots being brought into #wikia. Users keep bringing in bots like PinkyBot and [NewsBot] without any consensus to bring them in, then the bot gets kicked out and auto returns, making the person work on a long block to only block the bot without blocking a user. Then after that a big debate starts about whether bots belong in #wikia. Users against it note the dislike of bots by some staff and that consensus should decide if it is ok for a bot to be inside of #wikia. Then those few who want the bot go and say that the other 40 or so users don't have an issue with it, when 90% of those users are formally away, lurking, or a double user and aren't responding on how they may not like it because they are not at the computer.

All these bots coming in with no valid reason or pre-consensus is getting annoying. ~ NOTASTAFF Daniel Friesen (DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire) (talk) (tricks) (current topic) Nov 4, 2007 @ 21:03 (UTC)

I agree, bots are really not needed in that channel. -- sannse (talk) 22:32, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

The Office Wiki/Dunderpedia
I deleted all those pages you told me to delete in order to change the name of the site to Dunderpedia and Dunderpedia: The Office Wiki. Thanks in advance. DaHumorist 21:57, 8 November 2007 (UTC)


 * OK, you should be set... the title bar doesn't look quite right to me, but I think that's a cache thing. It should clear soon.  If not, give me another shout!  -- sannse (talk) 22:51, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

Adminship not working
Thank you for changing my status form from (none) to sysop, bureaucrat but sadly it hasn't worked. When you typed my username there was a space in between the User: and the name Bioevil087. You can check here [] and you will see what I mean. Please fix it as soon as possible. Thank You very much. Bioevil087 02:24, 10 November 2007 (UTC)


 * Now there's a strange error... it shouldn't allow me to change rights if the username isn't correct... Anyway, it's fixed now, you may need to log out and in again to see the change.  Sorry for the problem -- sannse (talk) 02:56, 10 November 2007 (UTC)

Can you fix this one too please sannse? w:c:engineering:Special:Log/rights. I left a message for Catherine but she might not have noticed it. Thanks. -- Manticore  Talk 03:00, 10 November 2007 (UTC)


 * Done -- sannse (talk) 01:37, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

Board 8 Wiki
Hello Sannse, would it be possible for you to edit the localsettings.php for my wiki, http://board8.wikia.com/ so that only registered users are able to edit pages? We've had some problems with vandalism here and there, but mainly we just want it so people stop being lazy and get an account for the sake of the other benefits. Picking a skin, contrib listings, all that stuff. Thanks! --Ngamer 23:11, 10 November 2007 (UTC)


 * Hi, why not just tell them about those benefits? I don't see much activity on talk pages, or any welcoming of new contributors to the wiki... those are both things that will encourage people to stick around and log in.  I see you also tend to protect rather than block IPs that vandalise, I think a combination of these is best... a short ban can be a great way of communicating that behaviour is not acceptable, especially when combined with a message.  Traditionally we have said that Wikia wikis should be open for all to edit - including anonymous users.  We've experimented with allowing a few wikis to do this differently, but it's still no clear what effects it has.  It's something we are discussing.  So for now, I'd suggest trying these other methods, and seeing how you get on -- sannse (talk) 01:37, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

Thanks a lot!
Thanks a lot for your help with the vandalism rollback in my wiki, Sannse. Together we did it really quick. --Spankart 18:52, 11 November 2007 (UTC)


 * No problem! -- sannse (talk) 01:37, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

Wiki Duties, and the Adoption
That info you were interested in is at User:Dantman/Wiki Duties.

As for that adoption. A user that's been working on the Animepedia wants to adopt the Sailor Moon Wiki and put it into Wikia ACG.

To make the list of things for you to do quite small and easy. Just 2 flag changes. I'll take care of her promotion and the promotion of the Sysop bot (Needed for some of the work in adding a wiki to Wikia ACG). ~ NOTASTAFF Daniel Friesen (DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire) (talk) (tricks) (current topic) Nov 13, 2007 @ 05:10 (UTC)
 * Add Bureaucrat to me on the wiki. (I already have Sysop so that's one less flag for you to give)
 * Add Bot to User:AnimeBot on the wiki.


 * Thanks for the link, I'll have a close read of that :)


 * If the user is going to adopt Sailor Moon, then it makes more sense for me to make her the bureaucrat. What's her nick?  Thanks -- sannse (talk) 18:53, 13 November 2007 (UTC)


 * Well ok. I was going to give her bureaucrat to (Kinda normal in Wikia ACG wiki for me and for the wiki's founder to both have bureaucrat. The idea is that bureaucrat allows me to promote users who become sysops on Wikia ACG scale. [Basically for helping keep things related to Wikia ACG in sync]). But you'll need to do more flags then since I won't be able to add the others myself.
 * Sysop/Bureaucrat on User:Katie5000.
 * Bot on User:AnimeBot.
 * Sysop on User:AnimeBotSys.
 * The bot set needs a bot account, and a sysop account because there are common occasions where the bot needs to edit a protected page when setting things up. (Most of the time, It's when I'm doing a lot of the simple additions like ACG to MediaWiki:Acg, or other things that are needed so that sidebar or other minor things are added. I use a small batchcmd script because doing this stuff on it's own is tedious.) ~ NOTASTAFF Daniel Friesen (DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire) (talk) (tricks) (current topic) Nov 13, 2007 @ 22:27 (UTC)


 * Sorry for the delay, I've set Katie's rights, and the bot on AnimeBot. Katie can set any other rights she feels necessary now.  -- sannse (talk) 08:59, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

Reminder...
...to bug the techs about adding the wiki identification element as described at Forum:IRC Feed Requests. GHe (Talk) 05:47, 17 November 2007 (UTC)


 * The ticket has been assigned to Inez, and I've updated it today. -- sannse (talk) 08:52, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

Lookupcontribs
^_^ I have people poking me to get lookupcontribs. Everyone from Jack to Manticore has it. I originally was going to wait till more janitors showed up and came my way. But since it looks like that's going slow, I'll just request the lookupcontribs flag that people are poking me to get. ~ NOTASTAFF Daniel Friesen (DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire) (talk) (tricks) (current topic) Nov 18, 2007 @ 04:33 (UTC)


 * I think this is something we need to talk about directly. Let's get together on IRC when we both have time to talk.  Thanks -- sannse (talk) 09:21, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

Staff, Helpers, and Janitors
Hey, sannse. I saw the new page Helpers. And I'm starting to get confused. What's the difference between a Staff, a Helper, and a Janitor. Primarily what's different between a Helper and a Janitor. But the difference between a Helper and a Staff is also a bit confusing. I suppose some people may also be confused on the purpose of the different flags and requirements of each individual group. ~ NOTASTAFF Daniel Friesen (DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire) (talk) (tricks) (current topic) Nov 19, 2007 @ 02:45 (UTC)


 * From what I understand, Helpers are interns or contractors working for Wikia, so they are in some way officially tied to the company. I'm not sure if the interns are paid, but I know the contractors are. Janitors, on the other hand, are volunteers and have no official ties to Wikia. The line between Staff and Helpers is a little blurry, but I think users with a staff flag (and not all employees do have them, IIRC) work full-time for Wikia. -- Manticore  Talk 04:29, 19 November 2007 (UTC)


 * It lists Volunteers as Helpers to. But Janitors are volunteers to. Also, what kind of access differences are there in the different flags? ~ NOTASTAFF Daniel Friesen (DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire) (talk) (tricks) (current topic) Nov 19, 2007 @ 04:44 (UTC)


 * Manticore has it...


 * Janitors are contributor-helpers who work as general assistants to the community, especially in helping control spam and vandalism. They have admin rights on all Wikia, plus some specific rights for anti-spam work, such as lookupcontribs.


 * Helpers are generally contractors or interns working with Wikia. Sometimes they may be volunteers who are helping with specific tasks on the wikis.  Helpers have admin rights on all Wikia, and may have specific rights set if they are needed for the job they are doing - for example, they may have some access for technical work if they are working with the Technical Team.


 * Staff are employed by Wikia, or long-term contractors working outside the US/Poland (it's more complicated to be 'employed' where Wikia doesn't have an office). Staff have admin and bureaucrat rights on all Wikia wikis, plus many other tools including Checkuser and access to some MediaWiki settings.  Not all those employed by Wikia have need of this access, so they are still "staff", but don't have the staff rights flag set.


 * In all cases, these groups are told to respect the rights of the local communities, and to be there to help and advise not to 'take over'. Staff may have to take on a wider role where there are serious problems on a wiki, and some Janitors and Helpers also have local roles (Helpers are sometimes asked to found a new wiki on a specific subject we are missing) but their Wikia-wide roles are to work with local admins and to try and make everything on Wiki run that bit more smoothly!


 * I hope that's answered all your questions -- sannse (talk) 09:20, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

Googlemaps extension for Genealogy.
Hi. I am a sysop for Genealogy wikia, and our community is very interested in having the googlemaps extension installed. (It is handy for plotting where old settlements were and so on.) Thanks very much for any help you can render.

Secondly, we need an additional extension allowed for uploads (.ged). These are text files but in a format used by about every genealogy program on the face of the earth. It would be great if contributors could upload them as .ged's. Some are voluminous >500K, so it is not practical to store them on wiki pages with. ~  Ph l o x  21:46, 20 November 2007 (UTC)


 * Hi, I can get the GoogleMaps extension working tomorrow.  I'll also put in a request for the technical team to look at allowing the file type, they have to check that it's something that will have security problems.  I'll get back to you on that one as soon as I can :) -- sannse (talk) 22:23, 21 November 2007 (UTC)
 * That is just Grand of you! No big hurry on the .ged's  If techs have never heard of it-> GEDCOM.  It is simple text and can be easily validated by sniff testing for legal fields found in the GEDCOM article.  An example files may be downloaded from  (center banner blue text- dowload gedcom).  Warm regards   ~  Ph l o x   07:59, 22 November 2007 (UTC)


 * Hi, forgot to update... GoogleMaps is on, and the file type is in the technical team's queue to assess. -- sannse (talk) 12:48, 23 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Yes, I was watching for it and saw it as soon as it came online. Thanks again.  I expect the .ged file type evaluation will take a while.  It would be great if you could notify me on  my talk page when a determination has been made, because I'm diving into some technical junk and probably won't notice.   ~  Ph l o x   17:26, 23 November 2007 (UTC)

Wikia ACG Organization
Sannse, rather than constricting the pie how about some organization of that organization.

Yes, yes... My brain moves to fast, It hasn't even been long enough for me to get to sleep since we discussed things. And Wikia ACG already has a series of revamps of various things.

I suppose it looked like it but Wikia ACG never was staticly my project. Afker is actually a bit of a right hand man and I let him deal with most Gaming related stuff. As well he's great at being the second side needed to make a good guide/policy something that people can actually understand and be comfortable with. I'm also trying to get Katie5000 to help out with some feedback so that I can fix up some of the guides and remove the older ones that are being replaced.

I'd actually like to consider a bit of a freeze on external expansion. And do a bit more on internal expansion and experimenting with various styles to see how they work out in different circumstances. Though I'd also like to fix up the wiki that ended up in a bit of a transition flux. I'll give some updates and information on the various Wikia ACG wiki, Flux wiki, and related wiki.

Actually I introduced some new things to make things a little frendlier and easier to use. ^_^ This time around all I'm getting is nice from Afker instead of a lot of tweaks reversing a number of stuff, so something must be going right. jamie_hari was setting up a spot for me to work on some extensions. I hope even without extra access or anything we can get some techical things installed. Because there were two main things I was hoping to make and get installed. One of them was centered around making things easier for newbies and editors in general. And the other was centered around making the project less dependant on bots that are run on only accounts that I can log into.


 * Animepedia
 * [Part of ACG. All of ACG stuff is setup.]
 * Katie5000 has been working on a lot of articles on the wiki and it's actually starting to pick up as a wiki instead of just a development ground.
 * We might add the old "Ignore all rules" and other stuff to the page to help newbies feel more comfortable later on. Though actually, at the moment the big focus is actually making it easier for new users to edit without running into the issues with article titles that normally are the reason that users don't edit. I've added a bit of an inputbox to the world page subst template (Used to create the world pages easily) to make it easier for people to create an article in the world without getting confused by prefixes.
 * We'll be doing a little less deletion than before. If someone comes in with a article at a bad name, or bad WP copy. We'll move it to the right place and fix it up. If they create a stub that would of course be in the way of an actual article we'll create the WP base and put their stub as a subpage to be merged so that what they contributed will never actually disappear. And on either type we're going to come up with a nice welcome message that tells the user that their contribution is still on the wiki and show them where it was moved to.
 * Going along with what Afker mentioned before we're going to combine the pages on User levels into one to make it less of a intimidating set of links in the index bar. Also the wiki like Narutopedia that customize levels names, we'll help relate them to the actual flags a bit more.


 * Narutopedia
 * [Part of ACG. All of ACG stuff is setup.]
 * There isn't really much to say here. As I've said, the Narutopedia has become mostly autonomous and is probably the biggest succest of the project.


 * Marpedia
 * [Part of ACG. Most of ACG stuff is setup.]
 * 90% of the Wikipedia articles have already been copied with that Move&Merge method. So since it's already progressed like that we'll probably use that as a test-case to see how that does for starting a new wiki.


 * InuYasha
 * [Part of ACG since beginning. Only half of ACG stuff is setup.]
 * The wiki is filled with articles that are so old, outdated, riddled with GFDL violations, and disorganized that they are mostly worthless. (Whopper would agree with this). We had a similar situation on the Animepedia and ended up deleting everything and going "Clean Slate". But I think this time istead of trying that. We could use this as a test-case for seeing how well that Move&Merge method of Wikipedia copying works for reviving an outdated and disorganized old wiki. Since he's interested I'll probably leave the wiki to Whopper after it picks up.


 * AliceSoftWiki
 * [Part of ACG. Most of ACG stuff is setup.]
 * Afker has been administrating it for along time so it's fine with him.


 * Ghost in the Shell Wiki
 * Unfortunately this is one of those big abandonings that is common for Animanga wiki. The founder joined Wikia ACG but content never got on the wiki, no comunity started, and the founder left without trying anything. I wish I could find a community to take it on though.


 * Dragon Ball Wiki
 * [Part of ACG. Most of ACG stuff is setup.]
 * It looks like Burdock has come back, so the wiki should be easier to manage. We've also started a bit of a re-discussion on the naming scheme since the old standard has gotten a little chaotic.


 * Gundam Wiki
 * [Part of ACG. No clue on what ACG stuff is setup.]
 * ValiantHeart is handling the Gundam Wiki.


 * Bleach Wiki
 * [Part of ACG. Only half of ACG stuff is setup.]
 * TheUltimate3 was the one to found the wiki but it hasn't picked up much, but there are potential contributors there. I'm going to show TheUltimate3 the ins and outs of good Wikipedia articles and how reformatting works.


 * Beyblade Wiki
 * [Part of ACG. Only half of ACG stuff is setup.]
 * The user who founded the wiki wanted to be part of Wikia ACG because of the Dragon Ball Wiki. Though it appears as if he's since abandoned the wiki. Personally I'd let the wiki go, but it's got Wikia ACG stuff on it. I personally don't consider it kind to leave a wiki in dissaray without support.


 * GaoGaiGar-Betterman Wiki
 * [Part of ACG. Only half of ACG stuff is setup.]
 * Kuukai2 founded the wiki and is working on it. Though I need to help setup the Wikia ACG stuff over there. And since it's the first dark content skined wiki I'm going to need to build a dark mod for the box-class system.


 * Yu-Gi-Oh! Wiki
 * [In flux.]
 * The Yu-Gi-Oh! Wiki is asking for the technical help of the project. There are no real issues so, since I don't want them to be left alone when they're asking for help when the discussion is complete it would be good to let them in even with the freeze.


 * Sailor Moon Wiki
 * [Part of ACG. No ACG stuff is setup.]
 * Katie5000 adopted the wiki. I need to do full setup on it as well as partial setup on a number of other wiki I never finished that on. (Wiki were coming in from so many corners I paused to do it all at once).


 * Full Metal Alchemist Wiki
 * [In flux.]
 * The FMA Wiki was actually working on joining Wikia ACG. In fact it says on the Main Page that it is part of Wikia ACG even though it isn't recognized as such. I've notified the community of that and we'll see what they say.


 * MMKB (Mega Man Knowledge Base)
 * [In flux.]
 * The MMKB has had discussion for a long time. They're actually using parts of Wikia ACG as a trial. They look content with joining with the Yu-Gi-Oh! Wiki's plans, but I guess I'll leave them they way they are for now.


 * Eureka seveN Wiki
 * [Not Part of ACG.]
 * Personally Eureka seveN is actually my favourite series, I'd like to put content on it, but I guess I'll hold off for now. Though it looks like it's another case of request and abandon. That's actually what happends to 90% of the Animanga wiki that get created on Wikia.
 * ~ NOTASTAFF Daniel Friesen (DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire) (talk) (tricks) (current topic) Nov 21, 2007 @ 02:31 (UTC)


 * Phew! now that is one overpowering message! I'm not even sure what to reply to this.  I can certainly imaging a newbie getting a message like this, and being totally lost!  I know you are doing all you can to improve Wikia, I'm just worried that your long and complicated tone comes across and unfriendly, unwelcoming, and scary!  (and I have to say, I feel the same way about your .  -- sannse (talk) 22:33, 21 November 2007 (UTC)


 * Sorry. Nah I'm not giving messages like this to newbies. Actually, I changed some of the detailed information pages. There were some important bits of information there I couldn't really erase. But I did make it a bit easier, pages like Jump start from Wikipedia have a Summary box up top that basically summarizes everything in a line or two that any newbie can understand. Sorry about the NOTASTAFF, it's just I've had to many people thinking that I was a staff member in the past. It was fine when it was new users, but when old users started confusing me with staff members I added that to my signature. ~ NOTASTAFF Daniel Friesen (DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire) (talk) (tricks) (current topic) Nov 21, 2007 @ 23:07 (UTC)


 * Not sure what the confusion would be... or Special:Listusers would be pretty sufficient evidence to the contrary, methinks. -- 23:11, 21 November 2007 (UTC)


 * Well, I can think of one common case. I pay attention to the inside forums, mailing list, central forums, and inside a lot, among also communicating with the techs at times. And with my other technical knowledge I often get into the discussions in places such as here where users are asking for information on some of the technical stuff. Something like what the status of an extension was, or if an extension could be installed, etc... But with the technical tone (And the technical tone does fit as something good to use in those cases unlike with newbie cases) I sometimes get confused with a staff or tech who works for Wikia, when I'm merely someone who knows about these things a bit in advance by following what Wikia is doing with the technical side, and also using my own technical knowledge to provide information on things like why an extension or feature would never be installed on Wikia. (ie: Why it's to unsafe for use on Wikia)
 * ^_^ Sorry, to much text again... (Though I have at least noted to cut out portions of my message when talking to new users). But at any rate, I'm thinking of a better signature to use. Instead of NOTASTAFF, I'll probably find a good bit of text that doesn't say I'm not something, but says what I am. ~ NOTASTAFF Daniel Friesen (DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire) (talk) (tricks) (current topic) Nov 23, 2007 @ 03:19 (UTC)

widget stuff from irc
1) on Special:WidgetDashboard, the skin link needs reformatted its not  any more, its

2) on Special:WidgetDashboard, "Please change your preferences to use this tool in all its glory." doesnt really tell you what your supposed to change in your prefs, i assume it means change your skin

4) the "stale pages" widget seems to leak. its fine when i first drag it on to the dashboard panel, but when i reload the page, its dumping the raw text from Special:Ancientpages as text above it, THEN also draws the widget below it.

5) docs on where the tips widget gets its stuff, and what format it needs to be in.

6) the "manage widgets" menu, when opened from the top drop menu, when attempting to "scroll" to the right to see more, will "snap" back to the left/start of the list (this was on w:c:eq2, but its seems to not do it here on central, dont know if it was my machine. i'll do some probing, if it keeps up, or if i can track it down, i'll let you know to poke a tech)

7) the last "Who's Online" widget needs an icon.

--Uberfuzzy 11:06, 21 November 2007 (UTC)


 * Thanks Uberfuzzy, that's great. I'll get all that straight to the technical team.  -- sannse (talk) 22:34, 21 November 2007 (UTC)

Hi
I've looked everywhere and consulted numerous people, but I can't seem to get rid of the table of contents. I've even looked on the various help guides here but no luck. --User:testostereich/sig 17:58, 21 November 2007 (UTC)
 * hi, you actually templated your which is why it wasn't working so I tinkered with it and it should work now.. Cometstyles 18:21, 21 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks Cometstyles! -- sannse (talk) 22:34, 21 November 2007 (UTC)

New Yu-Gi-Oh Wiki Channel
Hello sannse, mind adding another channel to the IRC Gateway? (#yu-gi-oh-duels)

Some of the Yu-Gi-Oh! Wiki users (admins mostly, heh...) have spent some time using the normal channel for dueling. I made a note, and everyone thought it was a good idea to create a channel dedicated for that to keep it out of the main channel. At least one admin that would like to be able to at least see these does use the gateway so it would be nice to have. ~ NOTASTAFF Daniel Friesen (DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire) (talk) (tricks) (current topic) Nov 23, 2007 @ 03:24 (UTC)


 * Sorry Dantman, I don't have the ability to do this. Angela should be able to help you.  -- sannse (talk) 11:31, 24 November 2007 (UTC)

Tips for Greeting Newbies
Hey sannse, what do you think about this greeting so far? Any tips for improving things when talking to newbies? ~ NOTASTAFF Daniel Friesen (DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire) (talk) (tricks) (current topic) Nov 23, 2007 @ 04:53 (UTC)


 * That looks good! Keeping things friendly and simple is the key, and I would also urge you to be open to sightly different ways of doing things... does it really matter if a person uses template A instead of template B on an article (making up an example)... better to just welcome that they have done something.  Oh, and you have a typo, it should be "If you're new to the wiki" ;)  -- sannse (talk) 11:38, 24 November 2007 (UTC)

problem reports suggestion
i'm quite sure this isnt the proper place for this, but you seem to be the one to goto to get things sent off to the right departments. here's my idea:

if a logged in user submits a problem report ticket, can you automaticly put the comments page for that ticket number on that users watch list. ie

obviously this is all moot if its an anon user, but it should help people stay in touch with their reported problems (ie, making the "leave a comment" function useful) --Uberfuzzy 16:26, 25 November 2007 (UTC)

Hi Uberfuzzy, sorry for the slow reply. That's an interesting idea. We are currently working on this feature, and one part of that is that we want to make it possible for admins to email people for more information, or just to encourage them to join the wiki and fix errors themselves. Do you think that would make the comment pages less necessary? Or do you think they would still be a needed part of the system? And are they in the right place? Maybe they should be part of a forum-like section instead? I think this could be a useful feature, buit it still needs some tweaks :) -- sannse (talk) 19:34, 27 November 2007 (UTC)
 * email isnt a viable solution, too many people block emails from other users (and by block, i mean they dont unblock, yay opt in) or just dont have email filled in.
 * for the users that report an error in the information, we (@eq2) usualy just make the changes and mark "fixed" and carry on with the day. since its usualy an ip editor, theres no good place to say "you know you can hit 'edit' make the change, instead of filling out an error report"
 * i think the comment thread is a good enough idea/place to work with the user, they just dont know it exists after they submit the ticket.
 * one other thing i would like to suggest, another button, not sure what to call it though. something to say "we are looking into this" or "being delt with". as it is, the option to just leave it "waiting" has no indication that someone saw it. and as above, leaving a note on the comment thread is moot if anon or they dont have it watched.
 * --Uberfuzzy 18:09, 29 November 2007 (UTC)

The idea on this, would be that an email field would be required, so that it's possible for admins to reply. As you say, the comment page is good, but not visible to anons (I think the idea of adding the page to people's watchlist may also be a good one). It would then be easy for admins to send a quick note (you could have a standard template) that welcomes newbies and encourages them to log in and edit - a good way to help build the wiki!

I like the idea of a "in progress" button too. Maybe something like "admins aware". I've seen a lot that seem to fit in that category. I'll add that to the list. Thanks -- sannse (talk) 10:17, 30 November 2007 (UTC)


 * Name it "Problem is sentient" ;) -- 15:08, 30 November 2007 (UTC)


 * Wouldn't it be the admins that are sentient? :) -- sannse (talk) 22:21, 30 November 2007 (UTC)


 * Heresy! The wiki hears all! sannse speaks no ill, spare her! -- 22:38, 30 November 2007 (UTC)


 * *g* -- sannse (talk) 10:12, 1 December 2007 (UTC)

Thanks :)

 * No problem! and Congratulations. I'm sure you will be a great addition to the team :) -- sannse (talk) 19:36, 27 November 2007 (UTC)

Ged files
Thanks. There may be upwards of 5 million individuals in publicly available GED files that can be downloaded and used with genealogy programs. Hosting these will make our wikia a more attractive destination and sharing site as a source of downloads. Competitor genealogy sites still have many more features than us, but if I can maintain my interest, maybe the snowballing will get started over the coming months. <font color="#0A9DC2">~  <font color="#0DC4F2">Ph <font color="#3DD0F5">l <font color="#6EDCF7">o <font color="#9EE8FA">x  16:37, 27 November 2007 (UTC)


 * No problem, let me know if you need anything else :) -- sannse (talk) 19:37, 27 November 2007 (UTC)

World: namespace for Animepedia
Sannse, could you add a "World" namespace to the Animepedia? If you want the technical reasons, keep reading... ~ NOTASTAFF Daniel Friesen (DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire) (talk) (tricks) (current topic) Nov 29, 2007 @ 04:35 (UTC)

I've been rethinking some of my methods and setups for the technical aspects of the top-level Wikia ACG wiki.

I needed some technical pages for each world, for tweaking things like category names and other I've been using a set of subpages for those purposes (Like Worldname/Tech/Info/Category for the category naming) but I've realized there are a few issues with that. Other than the facts that I need to do extra DPL stuff to hide them from showing up in lists, and they also clutter up the Allpages for the Main namespace. They actually alter the page counts and mess most things up for counting. And the method of using for templates that are meant for a certain world doesn't seam like such a good idea anymore.

Looking over how Semantic MediaWiki did things, I have seen that it would probably be a good idea for me to actually split that apart to work in multiple of the namespaces instead of just the main. Partly actually putting templates in the Template namespace, and keeping CSS in the MediaWiki namespace. And as for the technical pages, like how SMW did it those would be put in a special namespace. (SMW Has Type:, etc... namespaces to modify how SMW works; I'd be using a World: namespace in a similar way).

It would be best to organize things now, or else the wiki could end up messed up if the bad format is used in the meantime. I'd just prefix things with World: but then that would mean that a SQL query would probably half to be done. So mind adding the World: namespace now, it's useful even now because the templates already are using techniques that use the organization. ~ NOTASTAFF Daniel Friesen (DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire) (talk) (tricks) (current topic) Nov 29, 2007 @ 04:35 (UTC)


 * Hi Dantman, that's all done. I probably didn't need to delete and restore the pages starting in "world", I was just being cautious ;) -- sannse (talk) 09:33, 30 November 2007 (UTC)


 * Yup, thanks. Nah, you didn't need to worry about that. It actually doesn't matter that they are deleted because the rows still exist with the same ns-id/db_key pair. The technical reason why pages disappear is just because the pages with the ns-id override the ones prefixed with the db_key. Basically everything is still there, it's just that the new namespace makes another set of pages display instead, but that only happens with "Namespacename:". ~ NOTASTAFF Daniel Friesen (DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire) (talk) (tricks) (current topic) Nov 30, 2007 @ 17:12 (UTC)

RS Wiki
Hello, you'll remember me as Total Rune from the RuneScape Wikia, who you did a checkuser on awhile back and told all the sysops to ban me on the spot due to vandalism. However, you only know half the story.

My account on the Wikia, Total Rune, was created by my brother Nicholas. He logged onto my laptop while I was at work and took pictures and made the account pretending to be me, which he has done on other websites and such and has gotten me banned from. He vandalised and got himself banned. I got ahold of him and the password to the account and I switched it to something Nicholas did not now, and I took control of the Total Rune account. I requested an unblock and explained myself and got the unblock.

However, several months later, problems arose as many Wikia members began prodding me and poking their noses into my personal life, some of which even just trying to get me banned. I finally snapped and vandalised a few times to get myself banned on purpose. However my brother still wanted to edit the wiki.

Now we have a wireless router and a wireless internet connection, which is shared by my laptop, my sister's laptop, my brother's laptop and my parents desktop computer. He returned to the RuneScape Wikia and continued to vandalise several times, getting himself banned alot. I found out about a Proxy website, located here from a user on the RuneScape Wikia, User:Blankothe3rd. My brother saw the site and began using it to get around his bans and continue to vandalize.

However, because of your checkuser and such, the sysops on the Wikia started labelling every vandalism from my IP addresses/network as "Total". They would just write "Total" as the block reason. I admit, I did use a proxy once or twice to leave an apology to User:Clv309, but she continued to hold a grudge against me, as does every other wikia user.

Because of your checkuser, and the Wikia continuing to mis-label every vandalism from my home as being done by me, which they were not, that ruined my reputation in RuneScape itself. I had people insulting me and calling me "noob" and "idiot" and "scammer" because of them. But these personal attacks ingame have since ceased, thank god.

I have already spoken with Angela about doing something to get the sysops on the RuneScape Wikia to stop claiming that every vandalism from my IP addresses/network was done by me, because to be truthful, 99% of the vandalisms from my network are my brother.

I feel I am owed an apology from the sysops on the RuneScape Wikia for damaging my reputation by falsely claiming all vandalisms from my home network are me. Also, I wish to see that the sysops on the RS Wiki stop putting "Total Rune" or "Total" as the reason for whenever they block a vandalizing IP from my network, because it's not me, it's my idiot brother. Thank you for taking the time to read this. 69.159.56.155 07:33, 29 November 2007 (UTC) (Total Rune, formerly from the RuneScape Wikia)


 * If you aren't interested in contributing to the wiki, I suggest you just move along. Labelling every instance of IP vandalism as being from the same user isn't a good idea, but it's quite possible the pattern of vandalism is similar for each IP, and thus the admins there are assuming it is you. I wouldn't wait around too long for an apology, because it's clear there are major issues between you and the administrators (and probably the community at large), which frankly, were instigated by you. As Angela said, there are many other wikis you can get involved with. -- Manticore  Talk 09:13, 29 November 2007 (UTC)


 * In fact the staff member who did the checkuser was user:Rieke Hain. See the page here.  My personal favorite is the line:


 * "There is definitely no point in believing those claims regarding "brothers and sisters" and "I didn't note that they vandalized". CheckUser results are pretty clear (logged in as A, logged out, logged in as B, logged out, logged in as A again … all within minutes)."


 * --Wowbagger421 00:56, 30 November 2007 (UTC)


 * Checkuser does not show login/logout information. -- 07:08, 30 November 2007 (UTC)

Checkuser can't tell who is on the other end of a keyboard. But if there are a succession of edits from the same IP (which usually means the same computer, if the time-frame is narrow) then it's generally likely that it's the same person, and that changes of username are the same person logging and and out. Of course, there are variations to this, including a shared IP on a home network. And it is possible for siblings to be editing from the same IP and one of them causing problems. But the "my bother did it" explanation has become something of a cliche. We hear it so many times that it becomes difficult to believe.

In the end, it becomes a matter of what is best for the wiki, and the wiki community. If that means blocking an IP because one person using it is causing problems, then so be it. Even if that means others on that IP as inconvenienced.

Total Rune, I would agree with the advice you've been given to just move on to something else. There is no way for the admins to know if you are telling the truth about your brother, and little reason for them to feel they should trust you at this point. But I think the real key to this is off-line. If your brother is causing these problems then perhaps it's time you asked your parents to intervene. It's only at your end of connection that his behaviour can be addressed and he can be stopped from causing you difficulties. After all, it's his behaviour that is causing this, not the admins'. -- sannse (talk) 09:50, 30 November 2007 (UTC)


 * I have moved on, I keep getting shown block log entries from the RS Wiki by my bro over msn, and I'm getting pissed off at them for always labelling his vandalisms as "Total". Also, I'm not gonna bug my parents over his little vandalisms. Heck, I told him when I got banned to have fun. But whatever, as long as they stop labelling his vandalisms as "Total" I'll be happy. 69.159.56.155 22:26, 30 November 2007 (UTC)

Bot status request
Can I ask you for bot status? I'm an administrator-burocrat of Nonciclpedia (italian parodistic encyclopedia). I've created my bot "HeavyBot", could it receive the bot status? Its presence on the "last modifies" page is getting annoying... :-) --User:Heavymachinegun 12:01, 1 December 2007 (UTC)

shoutbox on quartz bugs

 * format will change from timestamp to current date at certain times of the day
 * parses apostrophes like this: "it\'s don\'t won\'t"
 * users online is stuck at 357

-- 22:15, 2 December 2007 (UTC)