Forum:Help with New Monaco changes

Safari
Maybe with the new change you can figure out why Wikia pages no longer work on Safari? 23skidoo 17:55, 11 June 2008 (UTC)


 * What kind of trouble are you having on Safari? I just looked at some wikis using Safari, and I don't see anything different. -- Danny (talk ) 17:59, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

GAH!
Why can't I set the Club Penguin Wiki's standard to Monobook! MONOBOOK!!!!! When the Monaco becomes standard, will it kill the Monobook?! The Club Penguin Wiki has been in Monobook for years, and any other skin looks really bad (trust me, I've seen it). Monaco may be "the wave of the future", but is it possible for Club Penguin Wiki to stay in the past? -- User:TurtleShroom


 * Users will still be able to use Monobook as their own personal skin, but the default skin for all wikis will be Monaco. It's definitely hard -- a lot of people are really attached to Monobook, and don't want it to change. -- Danny (talk ) 18:16, 11 June 2008 (UTC)


 * So, is there some way to change it for an individual wiki? Also, the Monaco is going to be very annoying for the Club Penguin Wiki's users, some who have edited on Monobook for years, and since practically everything will be thrown this way or that, it will be tough for the old users to keep up. Also, you said it yourself that the advertisements will be on the right side of the page. Are you aware that on the CPW, almost every ding-dong image is on the right side?! The advertisements would push images far below their intended level.


 * Our wiki has taken years to reach its level of quality, and if Monaco is installed as default, we would have to literally rearrange the entire site just to go along with it! That would look AWFUL on Monobook! Are you also aware that Monaco does not even use the standard MediaWiki Sidebar?! IT HAS ITS OWN, FOR CRYING OUT LOUD! There is a reason that Wikipedia uses Monobook, you know. They know that it is the easiest to use, and just look that their success! It's the largest encyclopedia on the earth! You claim that nobody knows an edit button exists... how can they not?! IT'S RIGHT NEXT TO THE WIKI LOGO!


 * Furthermore, I feel that the "New Look" is more directed to the advertisers and not the users. See this page for tons of reasons why the community is against this mandatory overide. I myself am an administrator and beaurocrat, and I can understand how you want to help all of the wikis, but there are so many now that you can't just make a "one size fits all" edit and make each community adjust to the new upgrade. Almost every wiki staff member I have seen has been a great help to both experts and beginners, making Wikia a better place to host an editable database. The staff are great, and I do not want to leave the community just because of some advertisemnt. Many wikis agree with this statement.


 * After all, in today's society, if they don't like it, they will leave.

I'm not going to leave, but I have a feeling that less persisten users will.


 * Your upgrade seems to benifit the big wikis over the small ones. The screenshots show huge wikis like the Mupphets, and does not even mention what the advertisements will do ot the little wikis. All of your screenshots show the Mupphet Wiki.


 * Finally, could you possibly but that huge advertisement under an article? People will stil see it if they want to see the whole page... or better yet, but a skinny banner like the "Ads by Google" shown here!


 * Please consider these and other changes shown here and on this page before overiding the Monobook. It ahs stood the test of time!


 * Sincerely,
 * [[Image:TurtleShroom.PNG|left|thumb|[[User:TurtleShroom|TurtleShroom]] Was Here!]] Jesus Loves You and Died for You!! :) :) 18:53, 11 June 2008 (UTC)


 * @ Danny: "Also, Monobook will have the same ads as Monaco will. The right sidebar on Monobook will go away, and Monobook will have the in-article ads. Monobook and Monaco will be the same ad-wise." Good job annoying your communities for no reason!--[[Image:AlariSig.png]] 18:58, 11 June 2008 (UTC)
 * You were not talking to me when you said that, were you? I was just stating my opinion.
 * [[Image:TurtleShroom.PNG|left|thumb|[[User:TurtleShroom|TurtleShroom]] Was Here!]] Jesus Loves You and Died for You!! :) :) 19:05, 11 June 2008 (UTC)
 * No, you ECed me when I was originally posted after the hypocritical staff member above. Also, you need to fix your siggy--[[Image:AlariSig.png]] 19:13, 11 June 2008 (UTC)