User talk:Angela

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G-Wiki..or maybe G-Pedia
Thank you all for my new toy: Genealogy.Wikicities (or maybe I will promote the term "G-Wiki" or "G-Pedia").

Having said that, I sent you an e-mail about naming--though I am cotoning to the one y'all chose for it.

The question I have is about SysOps; I don't think I have gotten anything about that from you or found anything that tells me the who's and how's of Administrating that Wiki.

Thanks again. &mdash;iFaqeer (Talk to me!) 06:19, 31 Dec 2004 (PST)


 * I can understand the name doesn't sound that exciting, but the aim of the URL is to have something easily guessable, as explained in Name for the wiki. However, the title for the wiki can be anything you like, such as G-Pedia. Moving the Genealogy:Main Page to the title you'd like will help to give the wiki its own identity, and the namespaces (if those are going to be used) can be changed so that the project namespace is the same as the title for the wiki. Angela 21:16, 1 Jan 2005 (PST)

Footywiki - ready to start
Hi Angela - I'm unsure whether my e-mail is working, so just letting you know that I'm ready to start work once the wiki is created.

Charlie

using formula
Would like to add this which works on wikibooks. How do I please?  $$\frac{\infin=1=0}{2}$$ 82.69.58.117


 * This is known bug. I've just increased the priority on it, so hopefully it will be fixed soon and math tags will work here like they do on Wikibooks. Angela 08:17, 6 Jan 2005 (PST)

Useful links to game products vs paid advertising
Just added a question over at Talk:Terms_of_use that I'd appreciate guidance on from Wikicities, would you be able to answer if you get a moment? GreenReaper 01:19, 7 Jan 2005 (PST)

Peace_: - let me in
I tried to join your new group, but haven't been confirmed yet. As for the above, it's an introduction & it's as good as any. Most of the people who came to the page probably aleady have had some kind of contact with me somewhere. I did receive a very funny reivew of this site from Sabine. My main job is writing new poetry. I'm also wondering what's going to happen here, I thought you might delete this place very soon. So should I do something else or let it go or delete it? I notice that there are still visitors. I never expected there would be 450 visits. But it's slowing down now. I can't always get online when ever I want to. We don't live in Los Angeles anymore but in a small town in a low spot where mountains woods & the ocean come together. The electricity goes out or the phone lines do I couldn't get online most of Thursday & Friday. Much of the downtown was destroyed by a tsunami in 1964 after an earthquake in Alaska. So when can I write messages at peace-1? Steve


 * Hi. Regarding deletion, the site is certainly not going to be deleted. We have the target of reaching 24 million page hits a month by the middle of next year. The site if going to grow, not disappear and be deleted. I can sympathize with you about not being able to get online since I've had the same problem recently and am still trying to catch up. :)


 * The Peace-l list seems to be working. Is this what you meant when you said "new group"? Did you not get a confirmation email when you tried to subscribe? What exactly happened? Angela 23:57, 10 Jan 2005 (PST)

Wiki request
Hello, Angela. I've resent the information. Please tell me again if there is any problem with it. Thanks, Djinn 17:03, 12 Jan 2005 (PST)

It's Peace Jim but not as we know it
Peace Elements

Wow, this is decidedly unpeaceful for a Peace wiki. I just wanted to let you know that as a bureaucrat, you can only make sysops, not "unmake" them. If you need anyone desysopped, please let either me or Jason know. Angela 18:49, 12 Jan 2005 (PST)


 * LOL

Mysterious. The Ways of the Force, they are.

Me a bearucrat? Gosh. Well I suppose the person who needs to be desysopped is Lobster. I know for I am that cructacean. Good to see the Wikicities search engine and other continuing ease of use features. Well done to you, Jason and Jimbo :-) Lobster

Nifty Stuff For Dummies @ Peace Elements
Hi Angela...thank you for your suggestions and guidance on the licensing stuff. My serious "ART" friends would kick me for any of that but it's all pixels anyways. You made it really easy to apply the changes with the links. I just don't get online as much as I used to w/ my current soul-sucking day job...we do not have internet access...--Lynnkub 20:05, 12 Jan 2005 (PST)

Thanks
Angela, thanks for uploading a logo to Tourism &mdash; it's much better than anything I could have come up with! &mdash; and for the other advice. (I'm going to be WikiVacationing for a couple of weeks until the beginning of February, so I'll have to wait until then before I can do any more work on the Topic-Tourism wiki.) Matt Crypto 06:16, 13 Jan 2005 (PST)

ICQ
Hi Angela

- trying to sort out ICQ on Linux

using GAIM - tried to find you. . ..

here is my new Linux ICQ - :-)

ICQ 275855951

I notice you use Skype - used this twice and was impressed - if I work it out for Linux will arrange a chat

- however getting CurlChat running is more of a priority

Also notice you use IRC - maybe it would be worth sorting this as we have a specific wikicities channel - never used it much

Any possibility of a wc (wikicities - hey your name) chat room?

Be Kind (what kind? The best kind you know how)

Onward And Upward Sideways And Inward (as they say in some dimensions)

Many thanks as always

Lobster


 * Hi Lobster. I don't use ICQ or any other types of chat other than IRC. It's hard enough to keep up with everything in the 6 channels I monitor there to really want to find other places. Angela 04:02, 14 Jan 2005 (PST)

Harming minors
From Terms of use:
 * Users of this service shall not act in a way which would be harmful minors.

First, it's harmful to minors. Second, why doesn't it state that they should not act so on Wikicities (implying that they should not act this way in real life either, which is commendable, but not really enforceable).


 * I've made changes to reflect this comment. Angela

Third, who decides what is harmful?


 * That's a matter of judgement which Wikicities would have to make if someone complained about some harm being caused. Angela

I hate stupid legalese. Just for information, let me explicitly state that my use of Wikicities should in no way be constitute my endorsement of or agreement with the terms of use. I do not agree with anything written there and reserve the right to sue Wikicities for libel, slander, loss of revenues, personal discomfort and anything else. I hate stupid legalese. Paranoid 06:42, 14 Jan 2005 (PST)


 * I can understand that you hate it, but we do need a terms of use. Are there any ways in which you think it could be made less legalistic? Angela 09:38, 14 Jan 2005 (PST)

Your Feedback (NeoPets Guilds)
Angela - Thank you very much for your feedback! I value your opinion, so it's wonderful to hear the good stuff and helpful to hear the constructive. I'll try to watch it on the unnecessary underscores. I'm still learning wiki formatting (obviously). I've learned a lot from the good examples on the Wikicities main site and WikiMac. One of the next things I need to understand better is when to use the wiki's namespace and about redirecting or moving pages. I found some pages on those topics. Now I just have to read and get a better understanding of how it applies. Thanks again! - RJ 11:33, 14 Jan 2005 (PST)


 * I've adapted these two help pages from Meta to make them simpler and more specific to Wikicities. See Help:Namespace and Help:Moving pages. Basically, whether you use the project namespace or not is up to you. Do you want to separate content from information about the wiki? On Wikipedia, this is important since you don't want policies mixed in with encyclopedia articles, but for Wikicities, there might not be so much of a reason to separate these. On this central Wikicity, we don't use the project namespace at all. Angela 12:46, 14 Jan 2005 (PST)

Google ads bug, Administrator status, Toki Pona VfD
A few things: First, have you ever edited a page with google ads? The little "styles" bar is way up there, and the ad pushes the textbox down a mile. Use the button ads on edit pages PLEASE, they're 120x120.


 * I'll copy this to talk:advertising. There are a lot of issues at the moment. Angela

Second: I suppose I had to create my username on the Mozilla Community wiki first, so I've done so, same as this one.


 * The name should carry over to all Wikicities. Angela


 * I think I tried to login but failed. I did sign up with the same name/pass and it seems to have taken it instead of rejecting it.  Anyway, what I mean to say is, I wasn't sure if you were going to create an admin name and send me the name and password or if I had to make my name and it would be granted SysOp status.  I can't currently upload the new logo (which isn't a problem... yet) etc, so I'd like SysOp as soon as possible.  It's not needed yet, so no rush, but eventually I will to add the logo and whatever else arises.  Also, I got an edit conflict when I tried to submit this (i seem to get one if i take too long editing a page), and appaerntly what it's tried to do is send this section as the whole page instead of just replacing the section.  I've had this happen quite a few times already and it's annoying.  There's no conflict.  --Me at work 14:44, 16 Jan 2005 (PST)


 * The 'bug' suggested on my talk page was indeed true, I had that option "Show preview on first edit" checked. It is now unchecked.  I suppose you could edit in a warning to "not use this feature" so that noone else makes this mistake. --Me at work 18:38, 16 Jan 2005 (PST)


 * It's a known bug. See MediaZilla:275. There is also a new help page about this at Help:Edit conflict which can be linked to from MediaWiki:Tog-previewonfirst. Angela 18:55, 16 Jan 2005 (PST)
 * Thanks a lot, I saw that in recentchanges so i checked my profile and there it was. I didn't even know about that option, nice job :) Maybe someday soon the googlead CSS fixes I mentioned on Talk:Advertising can be implemented.  If you want to see what they look like without actually going into the server, get EditCSS and install it.  It is for Firefox, but I'm doubting that's going to be a problem, although I don't know for sure which browser is your preferred. --Me at work 19:07, 16 Jan 2005 (PST)

Third: Toki Poni is up for deletion, same with the creators name. Since we have a Toki pona encyclopedia here, I see serious problems going to develop from the links to the wikipedia entry for it which are in the aforementioned article if it goes through (but i doubt it will). Just thought you should be cognizant of that one. --Me at work 00:44, 15 Jan 2005 (PST)


 * I don't think it will have a lot of effect. The toki pona community is fairly small, and there are better ways of promoting the wiki that through a link on a Wikipedia article. Angela 09:18, 15 Jan 2005 (PST)


 * As an update, it looks like it's Deletionists: 1, Inclusionists: 0. Page now gone. --Me at work 23:16, 24 Jan 2005 (PST)


 * Do you mean the Wikipedia article on toki pona is gone? It seems to be still at Toki Pona. Angela 04:02, 25 Jan 2005 (PST)


 * Gah, I clicked my VfD link then the other link I pasted, which ended in 'i' instead of 'a'. Oops. --Me at work 09:31, 25 Jan 2005 (PST)

Monobook.css
[Comment from my to-do list: Why is MediaWiki:Monobook.css not working?]
 * It's not working because there is no default page there. If you look at Special:Allmessages, they are all red links on other wikis.  However if you create the page, it does indeed work.  I have tested this on Mozilla Community successfully. --Me at work 13:09, 24 Jan 2005 (PST)
 * The page did exist, with a {text-decoration:none;} on it, but had no effect so I deleted it. Links seem to be non-underlined now anyway so it may have been a temporary problem. Angela 17:56, 24 Jan 2005 (PST)
 * I see them all underlined now. Should I Shift-Refresh?  About monobook not working, I made the little user bar (Name, My talk, Prefs, Watchlist, Contribs, Logout) a sidebar for a bit, and after a forced refresh it was fine.  Maybe you're having caching problems?  --Me at work 23:15, 24 Jan 2005 (PST)
 * Odd. Which skin are you using? In everything other than monobook, the "Underline links" option within "misc settings" in your preferences ought to turn these off. In monobook, they are off for me even after refreshing. Angela 04:02, 25 Jan 2005 (PST)

Blocklist not auto-expiring?
One which was supposed to expire a few days ago is still showing as active in mozilla:Special:Ipblocklist. --Me at work 06:35, 27 Jan 2005 (PST)
 * Another bug: mozilla:Special:Statistics.
 * Excluding those, there are ' pages that are probably legitimate content pages.


 * There have been a total of ' page views, and ' page edits since the wiki was setup.
 * That comes to 0.00 average edits per page, and 0.00 views per edit.
 * And yes, I know interwiki links are broken to mozilla, but eventually they won't be? --Me at work 10:41, 27 Jan 2005 (PST)


 * The blocks issue has been fixed according to MediaWiki bug 1204. I'll see about upgrading to the latest MediaWiki.
 * The Special:Statistics issue is listed at bug:56
 * The interwiki links ought to work soon. This is bug:60.
 * Angela 12:48, 27 Jan 2005 (PST)

Changing namespace
On my Pok&eacute;mon wiki, The wiki namespace is currently set to "Pok&eacute;mon". I would like to change it to "Pokemon" as the making the &eacute; is a hassle and impossible to type in the search box without copy and pasting or with a foreign keyboard. So... Could you help me? – Jellochuu! 14:27, 27 Jan 2005 (PST)


 * This is changed now. The name for the wiki is Pokemon, not Pok&eacute;mon. Angela 15:17, 27 Jan 2005 (PST)

Also, are we allowed to supress the Google search box via Monobook.css? – Jellochuu! 14:53, 27 Jan 2005 (PST)


 * No. This is a sponsored search, and will supposedly make money which enables us to run Wikicities. I've added this point to the terms of use now. Angela 15:17, 27 Jan 2005 (PST)

Licensing
Are Wikicity founders allowed to choose their own licensing for the wiki they founded? Or does it have to be GFDL? I would like to license content on the Pok&eacute;mon under a Creative Commons license... – Jellochuu! 09:26, 30 Jan 2005 (PST)
 * I know you removed your question but I decided to revert & answer. I suggest you read Wikipedia:Wikipedia:Multi-licensing.  You can (probably) multi-licence your own edits.  Maybe this is helpful? --Me at work 11:09, 30 Jan 2005 (PST)

Bugs
Please see Bug_reports. Conan
 * Special:Newimages I broke the internet. I'm guessing it's cuz we're on 1.4b3 instead of 1.4b5 which I'm running my testwiki on localhost with.  --Me at work 14:42, 1 Feb 2005 (PST)
 * Bug 67. Angela 14:47, 1 Feb 2005 (PST)

Thanks for community help!
I'm excited by the possibilities of using my new wiki at community.wikicities.com! Thanks again for your help. I've started loading in some information; as usual the main question becomes "How do I present this info in a way that's actually useful?" Interface, interface, interface has become the new "location, location, location". Pluckey 13:04, 4 Feb 2005 (PST)


 * I've just written a new help page at Help:Navigation. Let me know if you need any more information on this. Angela 14:21, 4 Feb 2005 (PST)

Say, I forgot to mention something. Do you think it would be better or worse to modify how this wiki appears in the List of Wikicities -- making it "Community Communication" instead of "Community"? I understand about the objective to make the name something "rememberable" ... I had originally considered the name "Communify" -- a quasi-made-up word incorporating "unifying community communication -- but that's just asking for trouble, what with its similarity to "community". Typos alone would vote against that, I suppose. I think it'd be fairly insane for me to expect anyone would even try to type in "communitycommunication.wikicities.com" so keeping the URL as just "community" would work fine for me. Any suggestions? - Pluckey 13:22, 4 Feb 2005 (PST)


 * Changing it to Community Communication in the list, and calling it that whenever you write about the wiki is fine. I'd advise against changing the URL or project namespace to that though simply because it's too long to type. Angela 14:21, 4 Feb 2005 (PST)


 * That's cool. Say, is changing the name to "Community Communication" in "The List O' Cities" something I can do (which obviously I haven't gleaned how yet) or something which requires your expert hand? :-) Pluckey 15:22, 4 Feb 2005 (PST)


 * First, something you can do is append colons before your text to make it threaded. Secondly, yes.  To start, I'd reccomend you middle click "what links here" to open it in a new tab (if you're not using firefox or another nice tabbing program then you will have a lot tougher time doing this).  This way you can see what other pages you'll have to "fix".  Then, 'move" the original page to the new name (Community Communication).  After that, go and open all the pages that link to it in new tabs, and find where it links and correct it.  On the Wikicity Descriptions page, it's as a template, , which will be changed to  .  The rest of it is simplle wikilink changing (i think).


 * But, although you can attempt it, I'd reccomend it not be done by you as Angela may have some special other things to do, that I am not aware of. Easier to mess it up doing it on your own than to allow someone else to make the possible mistakes :) --Me at work 15:45, 4 Feb 2005 (PST)


 * Ah ha! Stacking colons creates more indentations. Now I know. Secondly, I agree -- this is probably beyond my limited set of expertise (Sunday marks my first week of using a wiki) & I'd gladly accept any help on this minor issue. However, and I may be misunderstanding what you're proposing, Me at work, but won't moving the page to a new location also change the URL (from community.wikicities to communitycommunication.wikicities)? I'd like to retain the current existing URL -- but change what shows up in the List of Wikicities list from "Community" to "Community Communication". Hope this makes some kinda sense! Pluckey 16:51, 4 Feb 2005 (PST)


 * Replied at your talk page. Angela 23:03, 4 Feb 2005 (PST)

Mediawiki 1.4b6
''An attacker could craft a URL which, when visited by a particular logged-in user, would execute arbitrary JavaScript code on the user's browser in the wiki's site context. This attack has been blocked, and as an extra precaution the user CSS and JavaScript subpage support is now disabled by default. Sites which want this ability may set $wgAllowUserCss and $wgAllowUserJs in LocalSettings.php.''

Sounds to me like "Oh noes, someone's figured out how to change someone elses javascript". I can't really understand how a page that only the user who owns it can edit is a security flaw. Seriously. It's like saying "We've killed the mediawiki namespaces after we found out an admin could potentially put bad words there and it'd show up on the entire site!"

I don't understand the reasoning, and more importantly, I miss my customizations. I have seen some great stuff done with user css modding (from mozcom:User:LouCypher) and bet they are also not happy about this. The list of fixes mentions it (third from the end) but doesn't link to bugzilla or any explanation of the problem, other then somehow an attacker can show a logged in user some js? --Me at work 22:06, 4 Feb 2005 (PST)


 * Wikipedia has it enabled, so I don't see why we shouldn't. I'll see if I can get it switched back on. Angela