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Fuzzy picture
Fear the fuzzy! -- ◄mendel► 09:57, 26 August 2009 (UTC)
 * yes, i am aware of the fear --Uberfuzzy 20:01, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

How to upload an .Ogg file?
How do I upload an .Ogg file from Wikipedia to Wikia:Christianity? The file in question is. I tried doing as for an Image file but the software put mid- at the front and ogg.jpg at the back. User:Kathleen.wright5 from Christianity:Wikia, 06:20, 17 September 2009 (UTC)
 * P.S I'm using Firefox 3.5.3 which has HTML 5 (Open video) 06:28, 17 September 2009 (UTC)


 * rightClick+save on the link below the image, so you get the real url, not the thumbnail of the image part. its one of the rarely seen "mixed" ones, that has a thumbnail built into it. after that, you should be able to upload it like normal. --Uberfuzzy 08:27, September 17, 2009 (UTC)


 * I did what you said, but it only shows up as a Wiki link on the article, I click on that and it opens in a separate page showing the video, but when I tried to play it, it did'nt work. This is the article section The Salvation Army#Music User:Kathleen.wright5 from Christianity:Wikia, 9:04, 17 September 2009 (UTC)


 * Thanks for changing Image to File, but its still not working. User:Kathleen.wright5 from Christianity:Wikia, 21:39, 18 September 2009 (UTC)


 * Hmm. I wonder if they have a newer version of the ogg player, or we have some sort of other bug in our setup. I've filed a ticket for now --Uberfuzzy 23:07, September 18, 2009 (UTC)


 * If the file is incomplete I'll just have to delete it unless you know anything else that can be done. User:Kathleen.wright5 from Christianity:Wikia, 21:54, October 6, 2009 (UTC)

Admins of Cherub Wikia
Hi this is user James adams from the Cherub Wikia. I was wondering who were the admins for the Cherub Wikia. If there is none or needs to be more i would be glad to be one. Also do you reckon I should start a forum topic. Regards James adams--James adams 05:09, September 26, 2009 (UTC)
 * http://cherub.wikia.com/wiki/Special:ListUsers/sysop
 * http://adopt.wikia.com

Layout problem with Wiki-Logo in german unanswers


Hi Uberfuzzy. I've a little problem with the layout in german unanswers. Marc and I couldn't find the bug in the CSS and so he suggested to ask you with this.

The wiki-logo is not visible with Opera because it's hidden by the input box. It's annyoing because this is the only backlink to the main page. But it's not only a problem with Opera. If the browser window width is lower than ~1070px, than it's the same problem with IE, Chrome, Firefox.

In english unanswers you can see the same bug not until a lower browser width than ~840px, but in Opera the logo is displayed correctly (better: like the other browsers) at widths > 840px.

Do you have any idea how to fix that? -- 11:17, October 5, 2009 (UTC)


 * OK - it seems that you can't help me. Do you anyone who can help me? -- 10:29, October 16, 2009 (UTC)

Help me!
In finnish RuneScape wikia, i dont edit that anymore. So, some kinda bureaucrats do question like that: "Suretko Aku ankan lähtöä?", what means in english: "Are you drone departure of Aku ankka?", and i dont like that question, because I am ashamed. So, can you please remove that question in finnish runescape wiki mainpage? Link= Please, help me! -- 16:24, October 6, 2009 (UTC)
 * You will need to contact the admins of that wiki first. --Uberfuzzy 01:19, October 16, 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for the welcome!
=) Glowing Face Man 17:26, October 7, 2009 (UTC)

Template glitch
Hi, When editing articles at Might and Magic wiki, I come across a problem... upon confirming the edit, if there's a template in the article, it automatically gets moved down three line breaks without any input from me. They look so much better without the needless superficial spaces so I wonder if you have any insight on preventing this "feature" since I'm still a neophyte - thanks! --86.44.195.196 23:46, October 7, 2009 (UTC)
 * Its a known bug that sometimes happens with the RichTextEditor. We are looking into the problem. --Uberfuzzy 01:19, October 16, 2009 (UTC)

Something help needs again, but not finnish runescape wiki
We needs help in the finnish mario wiki. So, can you please change that background style for MonoBook, because, our MediaWiki MonoBook is so good for that wiki. But anyway, say me, its impossible or no? -- 07:43, October 9, 2009 (UTC)
 * I'm sorry, we dont offer monobook as the default skin anymore. You can set your own personal skin to monobook in your preferences --Uberfuzzy 01:19, October 16, 2009 (UTC)

Bot
Hi! May you explain me how can I create a bot? I mean, I know I have to create a new user, but then? The bot I need is for this wiki. Thanks a lot! --Ophycloedius (msg) 16:29, October 9, 2009 (UTC)
 * There are multiple existing ways to "bot" on a MediaWiki wiki, or you can write your own using the MediaWiki API. All of which can be found on google. --Uberfuzzy 01:19, October 16, 2009 (UTC)

Changing font size
Hey there Uberfuzzy, s'been awhile since we last spoke. Firstly, thank you for fully removing my personal Wikia.

Secondly, and more importantly, it's been awhile since I've edited on Wikia, and I recently joined the DAN-BALL Wikia, and I've forgotten how to change font size.

Could you refresh my memory, and show me the proper code to use to increase font size? Thanks!  λ T 23:06, October 10, 2009 (UTC)

Floating semi-transparent box in bottom right corner of page
Almost forgot to ask this. You've seen some userpages around here or on Wikipedia that have this box in the bottom right corner thats semi-transparent and is basically on top of everything, and it follows your scrolling and stays in the corner, right?

How would I do that? I've been looking all over Wikia & Wikipedia to find someone who has this box thing on their userpage or talkpage, to no avail. Help me, lol!  λ T 01:20, October 11, 2009 (UTC)

Look at the fixed CSS position ~Joey~   ^Talk^  01:44, October 11, 2009 (UTC)


 * That doesn't help me. I fail at CSS. I'm more of a C# person. But I need the wiki-code for a transparent box.  λ T 18:10, October 11, 2009 (UTC)

Hey
At Zeldapedia we had a vote to chage the mainpage and it passed. So I went ahead and changed it, but there was a ton of white space at the top; presumably for ads. Is there anyway we can fix this to get the ads or whatever to appear and get the white space to vanish? If you could check it out, I'd greatly appreciate it. Thanks. --EveryDayJoe45 02:58, October 11, 2009 (UTC)


 * http://zelda.wikia.com, right? I don't see a huge chunk of white space, but then again, I am using an up to date HOSTS file to block unwanted ads, and it seems Wikia's ads (all of them) are blocked by HOSTS. However, I don't know if you're using a HOSTS file, so I can't say for sure whether or not it's your HOSTS file blocking the ads and leaving a white chunk or not. It may just be that the ad failed to load and left a white space.  λ T 18:13, October 11, 2009 (UTC)


 * Nevermind, I was on the wrong homepage. Also, I replied over at EveryDayJoe45's talk page on Zeldapedia.  λ T 18:26, October 11, 2009 (UTC)

Explicit username just created
User:Deepeeme (Userpage not created yet) just registered, and according to my knowledge, DP means penetration Double penetration, aka, a sexual act. Just thought I'd let you know.  λ T 19:36, October 11, 2009 (UTC)

Quick question
Im sorry to bother you, but is it ok if I can have my talk page here at central protected for 2 weeks to sysop level? This is because someone I blocked for breaking one of our policies policy keeps spamming it with "Forgive me, im sorry!" or "Unblock me" and it is getting quite annoying to get new messages here while I am editing at my home wiki. Thank you, -- seahorseruler | Talk  (EditCount) Yoshi! 23:04, October 12, 2009 (UTC)

Navbox Help
Hey, how can I do an Navbox with a hide button? --Matias arana 10 19:01, October 13, 2009 (UTC)

Privadopédia
User is a bureaucrat and sysop in the site does not in any way that threads are created a community where you decide the rules of his wikia.

Is it right?

Regards

Qualavisonapáginaprincipal 19:28, October 13, 2009 (UTC)

Deleting Rechtsanwalt on Memory Alpha
Sorry for double posting, but today you deleted the page mentioned in headline. You commented "spam", but there was no reason for so I undeleted it. So how come you deleted it? Thanks -- Plasmarelais 13:26, October 14, 2009 (UTC)
 * Funny, you also deleted an article with the same name on the German Uncyclopedia without good reason. NaturalBornKieler 13:42, October 14, 2009 (UTC)
 * Easy reason: There was a spamming attack with the page Rechtsanwalt. He used a bot to delete it globally, so it also affected "the good" articles. There's no other reason for it, so please just restore it and nevermind it, it's happened due to a global deletion. Marc-Philipp (MtaÄ)   (Talk)  13:49, October 14, 2009 (UTC)

Thanks a lot for answering. But still I don't think it would have been too complicated to have the bot commenting these deletions a little more detailed, with a summary or for example adding just a small information on his local user page. Now there are people wondering for a deletion that is just not explained in any way locally. -- Plasmarelais 13:57, October 14, 2009 (UTC)


 * There were a small handful (3 or 4) false positives for that name, vs the hundreds that were spam. I'm sorry for not replying on my talk page sooner. I was ill and could not get on the computer much over the last few days.
 * I was not even aware that pagename was a "thing" or a non-spam page. It was being used by a spambot that was using many gibberish names, we did not have the time to check each name in many languages to see if it was a chance it would knock out a non-spam page. It was worth the risk of knocking out a good page or two. Any admin could just as easily restore it, or complain to us about it.
 * You say "to have the bot commenting these deletions a little more detailed". Please explain this, or what you think the global delete tool should do. It is very new, and does not have many features, so any feedback or complaints will help us develop it further. --Uberfuzzy 01:52, October 16, 2009 (UTC)

Alright, I see you can't tell everyone what ist happening and I agree it is easy just to restore the deleted page. But maybe a little informationen cut be added to the edit comment. I missed the fact this edit was made by bot and the edit ist part of work in a wikia-wide range. Imo a good example could be: "Bot: deleting page reported as spam: w:Spam report/Rechtsanwalt" or something like that. But I know it's nearly impossible to have such details distributed when working on hundreds of pages all over wikia. Sorry for my rough complain, I would have taken it easier if I would haven known this was an bot edit :-) --Plasmarelais 14:35, October 25, 2009 (UTC)
 * There wasnt really any single place I could have pointed to really, much of our tracking/reporting has moved internally/non-public for various reasons. Also, it was part of a larger batch of names (over 50) that were dumped into a list, and the system created background tasks (closest we have to "bots" really) to delete each name at all wikis. It was a 1 time large cleanup like that, to get caught up on cleanup that had been missed along the way. I will make it a note to use more descriptive summaries, to make it clear that we are deleting cross-wiki spam, in the hopes that admins understand that sometimes there is a little friendly fire when you are using a shotgun to kill a few flies. --Uberfuzzy 21:30, October 27, 2009 (UTC)

Helper.
I would like to become a Helper.I am experienced in Web Design.I am admin on Admin Tools. I am willing to help whenever.--Grand Theft Auto Lover 21:18, October 15, 2009 (UTC)
 * Best bet would be to keep an eye on http://hiring.wikia.com for a position that is of your style. --Uberfuzzy 22:30, October 20, 2009 (UTC)

Shout Box
Excuse me Uberfuzzy, but I need help. For some reason, the Shout Box function isn't working properly for me. Whenever I try and post a comment, it shows the visual for loading, but nothing happens! What's more, whenever I go to a different page, the shout box disappears, regardless of wether or not I tried to leave a message! I'm not having this trouble with other widgets, and it's happening on all the wikis! Could you help me?--Kagi mizu -Seeya  'round ~ 22:18, October 15, 2009 (UTC)
 * We're looking into this. Some other users are reporting the same thing, but not everyone. --Uberfuzzy 01:19, October 16, 2009 (UTC)

Really? Thank you thank you thank you!!! Now, could you tell me what the problem might be, because I've been around for months, and the problem occured just today, so I know I have all the neccessary programs.--Kagi mizu -<font color="#008000">Seeya <font color="#FFA500"> 'round ~ 01:50, October 16, 2009 (UTC)
 * Nothing on your side. I think something in the widget system changed in this week's update. It was fine just a few days ago. --Uberfuzzy 01:53, October 16, 2009 (UTC)

Whew! So, why is it affecting only some Users and not others? Most of my friends on the Sonic News Network and Sonic Fanon Wiki are regular users of the shout box, and they ain't having any problems.--<font color="#0000FF">Kagi <font color="#FF0000">mizu -<font color="#008000">Seeya <font color="#FFA500"> 'round ~ 01:59, October 16, 2009 (UTC)

Hey Uberfuzzy, I was just wondering if any progress has been made in fixing the shout box.--<font color="#0000FF">Kagi <font color="#FF0000">mizu -<font color="#008000">Seeya <font color="#FFA500"> 'round ~ 17:43, October 16, 2009 (UTC)

Excuse me Uberfuzzy, but I wanted to ask you again if even a little progress has been made in finding out what is wrong with the Shout Box, and fixing said problem(s).--<font color="#0000FF">Kagi <font color="#FF0000">mizu -<font color="#008000">Seeya <font color="#FFA500"> 'round ~ 05:02, October 19, 2009 (UTC)


 * No progress as far as I know, but I havent made it to checking the opened bug tickets yet today. We're getting more reports of it, so its not just one person/browser/isp/settings. stay tuned! --Uberfuzzy 22:24, October 20, 2009 (UTC)

Believe me, I know that much (it affecting multiple Users). In fact, it's also affecting Twilight, a User I know (who do you think gave him the link to your talkpage?). However, it hit him a few days after it hit me; how that might be relevant, I don't know, but it might be.--<font color="#0000FF">Kagi <font color="#FF0000">mizu -<font color="#008000">Seeya <font color="#FFA500"> 'round ~ 22:34, October 20, 2009 (UTC)


 * Master Uberfuzzy, I've been having this exact problem as well. -- † This is Serious Business! Jesus Loves You and Died for You!! †    :)  :) Oooh, Yertle is performing his signature Bible Bashing Move! † 19:19, October 23, 2009 (UTC)

Anyway, any results yet Uberfuzzy?--<font color="#0000FF">Kagi <font color="#FF0000">mizu -<font color="#008000">Seeya <font color="#FFA500"> 'round ~ 01:52, October 24, 2009 (UTC)

So, Uberfuzzy, have you been able to make any progress with the Shout Box? Any at all?--<font color="#0000FF">Kagi <font color="#FF0000">mizu -<font color="#008000">Seeya <font color="#FFA500"> 'round ~ 19:39, October 27, 2009 (UTC)

Ticket number 15954
Hey Uber,

I was just checking up with this bug. As a reminder, when an image is moved, it leaves a redirect, and the redirect shows up in Special:Unused files, even though the image it is redirecting to is being used. It basically floods Unused files with useless data. We discussed how you were seeing it not as a bug, since the new name of the image isn't used anywhere, thereby making the image actually being unused while the redirect is being used.

Anyhow, my peeps asked about the ticket status, so I figured I'd ping you. :)

Thanks!

&mdash; Nathan (Peteparker) (Earth-1218) (talk &bull; contribs &bull; email) 16:50, October 16, 2009 (UTC)

Spyware reports
Hi there. I've gotten a couple instances of spyware reports and popups on the Channel Awesome Wiki People have reported that popups are emerging and giving people spyware. I'm not sure what to tell them other than it isn't our fault. It's the ads. Is there a way this problem can be resolved since administration from Channel Awesome uses the site. Thanks in advance!

Cferra 20:59, October 17, 2009 (UTC)
 * These need to be reported to community@wikia.com or w:c:thatguywiththeglasses:Special:Contact as soon as they show up, with as much detail as possible, like screenshots, or urls or detected malware names --Uberfuzzy 22:26, October 20, 2009 (UTC)

Privadopédia
o abusivo sysop continua com um bloqueio contra mim só pq eu quis criar uma página onde se discutiria, quais seriam as regras.

A privadopédia deveria ter eu como sysop.

Qualavisonapáginaprincipal 16:23, October 19, 2009 (UTC)
 * I'm sorry, I cant understand what your saying. You can try Special:Contact and someone may be able to help you. --Uberfuzzy 22:11, October 20, 2009 (UTC)

The bureaucrat of privadopédia blocked me because of a message on their talk page where I said that beyond someone with something in his head had to be sysop

My arguments for doing this were: He blocked me without any message.O which is against the rules for all I know

he insists on deleting the page where you start a discussion about the rules of Privadopédia.

And before any editing I am already locked.

Qualavisonapáginaprincipal 21:28, October 21, 2009 (UTC)

Side Widget Bar
The left side widget bar will not show up on any of my pages (the search bar, the recent changes box), at least, not after a very long time. (as in 5-7 minutes) Is it a problem with wikia, or just my internet connection? --<font color="Black">This <font color="Grey">Is <font color="Red">SPARTA!!! '  21:15, October 20, 2009 (UTC)
 * Could be a lot of things. Any way you could get us a picture of what your seeing? --Uberfuzzy 22:10, October 20, 2009 (UTC)


 * [[File:Sonic_Fanon_Problem.jpg]]

That's all I see --<font color="Black">This <font color="Grey">Is <font color="Red">SPARTA!!! '  23:04, October 20, 2009 (UTC)


 * In the page source sent to your browser, the sidebar is loaded after the page content. Maybe something in your page is stalling out the page from loading. There seems to be a lot of content under "What's new on Sonic Fanon Wiki" section, including that animated image from someone's signature, and a few polls. It could also be something from the spotlights, or ads that are stalling out your page from loading, such as if you have an incorrectly setup adblocking system. Or it could be from some other unknown piece of code stalling out the page from loading. Have you tried clearing out your browser's cache files? --Uberfuzzy 21:02, October 26, 2009 (UTC)

Privadopédia
The bureaucrat of privadopédia blocked me because of a message on their talk page where I said that beyond someone with something in his head had to be sysop

My arguments for doing this were: He blocked me without any message.O which is against the rules for all I know

he insists on deleting the page where you start a discussion about the rules of Privadopédia.

And before any editing I am already locked.

Qualavisonapáginaprincipal 21:29, October 21, 2009 (UTC)

Hi Uberfuzzy

Sorry to disturb you once more: My message of yesterday oriented you to my Talk page. This was an error: I stated my problem on my User page.

On the other hand, I just found a page in French (Utilisateur:Uberfuzzy - Memory Alpha), which gives potentially useful indications in my mother language (French) concerning Wikia and the syntax of Wiki.

--77.56.129.32 06:38, October 22, 2009 (UTC)

Favor me responder !

Qualavisonapáginaprincipal 20:02, October 23, 2009 (UTC)

Star Wars Fanon
Hey Uberfuzzy. Why is editing with an IP on Star Wars Fanon now disabled? I don't recall anyone on SWF ever asking for that, nor do I recall there being a reason for such a setting being activated. If you could let me know, that'd be great. Thanks. - <font color="#1A2BBB">Brandon Rhea <font color="#1A2BBB">(talk) 16:07, October 25, 2009 (UTC)
 * Its not directly. What is enabled, is that a confirmed email is required, which since its impossible for anons to have an email since they have no preferences... they cant edit. This was done to stop most of the vandalism issues that were happening all summer. It keeps out all but the most dedicated vandals, since they have to create new accounts, and verify their email before they can edit. --Uberfuzzy 20:57, October 26, 2009 (UTC)

I'd rather have Assaulthead/Babylon vandalize every so often than have anons lack the ability to edit. A small but dedicated portion of the wiki's activity comes from anonymous users, and it's a shame that they're no longer allowed to edit because of one vandal. After all, you don't need to have an account to edit, even if it is encouraged. Is there an ETA on when this measure will be disabled? - <font color="#1A2BBB">Brandon Rhea <font color="#1A2BBB">(talk) 21:00, October 26, 2009 (UTC)
 * Its stopping a lot more then 1 user. Sadly there is no ETA on it. --Uberfuzzy 21:23, October 27, 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, but you said the reason was the vandalism over the summer. Virtually all of the vandalism on SWF over the summer was from Babylon, and we're perfectly capable of dealing with that and other rare instances of vandalism when they come along. We have multiple administrators that can block vandals, plenty of users who are capable of reverting any vandalism, and then two bureaucrats with CheckUser. Disabling edits from IPs, which directly affects our wiki's level of activity, is an unnecessary tool on a wiki that doesn't have a large amount of vandalism anyway. - <font color="#1A2BBB">Brandon Rhea <font color="#1A2BBB">(talk) 21:44, October 27, 2009 (UTC)

Archive Tool
Hey Uberfuzzy, sorry about bugging you about another subject, but I have a favor to ask. You see, I've been wanting to install the Archive Tool on the Sonic News Network for a while now, but I don't know how to, and neither does anyone else I know. So uhh, if it's not too much trouble, could you install it? It'd be a big help to alot of Users over there, including myself. Thanks big time!--<font color="#0000FF">Kagi <font color="#FF0000">mizu -<font color="#008000">Seeya <font color="#FFA500"> 'round ~ 21:27, October 25, 2009 (UTC)
 * c:dev:ArchiveTool. ~Joey~  ” ^Talk^ ” 00:09, October 26, 2009 (UTC)

I already have a link to the Tool itself, I just don't know how to install it, and neither does anyone else, so I'd prefer to be safe rather than sorry.--<font color="#0000FF">Kagi <font color="#FF0000">mizu -<font color="#008000">Seeya <font color="#FFA500"> 'round ~ 02:48, October 26, 2009 (UTC)
 * c:dev:ArchiveTool --Uberfuzzy 20:55, October 26, 2009 (UTC)

I've already read that Uberfuzzy, and I don't know what the heck it means, that's why I'm coming to you about this. Rather than risk scrambling my own wiki, I'd rather go to someone who knows how to work this stuff.--<font color="#0000FF">Kagi <font color="#FF0000">mizu -<font color="#008000">Seeya <font color="#FFA500"> 'round ~ 19:36, October 27, 2009 (UTC)


 * I've simplified the instructions. Try now. 21:46, October 27, 2009 (UTC)

MediaWiki, browser cache, I'm sorry but I don't understand any of this. I'm not exactly an expert on computers.--<font color="#0000FF">Kagi <font color="#FF0000">mizu -<font color="#008000">Seeya <font color="#FFA500"> 'round ~ 22:35, October 27, 2009 (UTC)

Hi, new friend!
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The Great Paper Mario WikiVandalizing Demon 01:50, October 26, 2009 (UTC)

Sysop abuse
A sysop on Smash Wiki called PenguinofDeath has banned me and my two friends (Ba-boom headshot!!! and MaxPain90) because we use the same IP. He accuses us of sock puppetrey because another person on our wiki was a real sockpuppet. I requested unblock for the three of us but he hasn't responded even though he is currently editing other pages. We edit in a computer lab with multiple computer. So I would like you to unblock us and talk to PenguinofDeath about it. Thank you. Tuth the tough Mii  You got owned!   Visit Mint Brick Wiki! 
 * Please report this issues to the community team at Special:Contact or community@wikia.com --Uberfuzzy 21:19, October 27, 2009 (UTC)

Adminship issues.
I am an administrator over at the Earthbound/mother wiki.(User: Exdeath64). I am losing my internet for a while and am TRYING to promote another user (User: Pikmin Master) to admin status to cover things while I am gone. But for some reason I cannot access (Special:UserRights) to promote him. Can you help with this problem? Please let me know if you can on my talk page over on the wiki. Exdeath64 21:15, October 27, 2009 (UTC)
 * You are likely not a bureaucrat there. Can you please link to wiki please. There are over 60k wikis on Wikia, I dont know the "name" and URLs to all of them. For all I or anyone knows, what you consider the Earthbound wiki could be at rainbowsandprettyponies.wikia.com, and there could be 20 others also named "Earthbound wiki". Help us help you. --Uberfuzzy 21:21, October 27, 2009 (UTC)

The project for closing
Look at this. Author requested to close the project. Alaar 22:04, October 27, 2009 (UTC)
 * All wiki closing requests need to be submitted to us, via our contact form at Special:Contact or by direct email of community@wikia.com --Uberfuzzy 22:24, October 28, 2009 (UTC)

tdi
I have a request for you. Can you remove Shinneh's b-cat powers from here. She appears to not be active anymore. Thanks! Webkinz Mania  says   stuff  22:35, October 27, 2009 (UTC)
 * Please, I have asked you a dozen times, please put your questions in a new section, or use the "new message" link at the top. Special:Contact for these type of requests anyway. --Uberfuzzy 22:24, October 28, 2009 (UTC)

/ Thing
How do I make an article with a forward slash "/" without it thinking it's a sub-page? Alpheta 02:28, October 28, 2009 (UTC)
 * You dont. There are some template/javascript tricks to change the title of the page, but its still a subpage --Uberfuzzy 22:22, October 28, 2009 (UTC)
 * Do any of them get rid of the small "< Article" below the top article header? Alpheta 23:10, October 28, 2009 (UTC)