User talk:The 888th Avatar

Change to central hubs logos
Hi There, I saw the changes you made to the central hubs logos, they look great! Thanks for the help. Cheers, --Sarah (talk 18:38, December 8, 2009 (UTC)


 * Thanks! :) Wjxhuang,  the 888th Avatar  {Talk} 22:09, December 8, 2009 (UTC)
 * Hi there. My apologies, I'm a month late to the party because I'm not active on Wikia Central.
 * I'd just like to thank you for so much for this particular edit as it means a lot to see that you chose our Logo.
 * Have a great day, A_F_K_sig_2.jpg A F K When  Needed  17:19, January 10, 2010 (UTC)
 * :D Wjxhuang,  the 888th Avatar  {Talk} 04:55, January 28, 2010 (UTC)

Blue boxes
Hey. I had already seen that blog, actually, but thanks for showing me anyway. While it explains why the blue boxes are disappearing, it doesn't explain what I should do instead. -- Supermorff 13:49, February 6, 2010 (UTC)


 * Oh, I see - what Wikia says we should be doing instead is searching for wikis via the search bar, because it searches across wikis, negating the need for blue box pages. Wjxhuang,  the 888th Avatar  {Talk} 01:48, February 7, 2010 (UTC)


 * Okay, but that searches by page, meaning that you're far more likely to come across large and active wikis than small, inactive ones, which is what I used the blue boxes to look for. How am I supposed to find the small, inactive wikias that are duplicates of larger wikis and have little to no chance of standing up independently? -- Supermorff 08:54, February 7, 2010 (UTC)


 * That is a good question. I'm guessing that perhaps part of the reason Wikia did this in the first place was to keep the large, active wikis large and active. This pleases the majority of users who wanted to find the big one anyway. To find the small ones will now be a very difficult task. Why did you want to find the small wikis? Wjxhuang,  the 888th Avatar  {Talk} 09:48, February 7, 2010 (UTC)


 * Well, mostly to merge any info into the large ones and avoid duplication of effort. It's a shame when a knowledgeable user creates a wiki for a subject, not realising there's a big one (and this is now very easy to do, thanks to "Create a new wiki" button on top of every page). That wiki is doomed to be ignored, and their info is going to go to waste unless someone finds it and does something with it. Even worse, the lack of attention on their wiki will just demotivate them from adding more info elsewhere. I've seen it, I know it happens. -- Supermorff 09:54, February 7, 2010 (UTC)

I can see what you mean. I think this is interesting. I think the majority of well-meaning, knowledgeable users would try to see if there was an big wiki on the subject before trying to create their own. The minority who do create their own regardless usually want to do a better job than the existing wiki. The real minority, that you speak of, are the people who didn't think of searching before taking the plunge. The new changes make it very hard to find these people. You could perhaps suggest to Wikia staff to suggest to users using w:Special:CreateWiki that joining an exisiting wiki may be a better, more productive idea. Wjxhuang, the 888th Avatar  {Talk} 10:03, February 7, 2010 (UTC)


 * Maybe, but that doesn't really help deal with the wikis that slip through the cracks. Another problem is when a user wants to set up a wiki, but there is already an existing wiki that's quite small. Using the search bar, they'd have little chance of finding it. What we really need is some way of searching wikis without searching the content of wikis... Hm. Anyway, how would you suggest I go about contacting the Wikia staff about this? -- Supermorff 20:19, February 7, 2010 (UTC)


 * Special:Contact is the way to go, as usual. Maybe suggesting on the appropriate staff blog is good as well. Public comments always build up interest. Wjxhuang,  the 888th Avatar  {Talk} 05:59, February 8, 2010 (UTC)


 * Okay, I've sent a message to Wikia staff and I've commented at User_blog:KyleH/The_future_of_Central_Wikia. It would be nice if you could chip in with your own thoughts. -- Supermorff 12:06, February 9, 2010 (UTC)


 * Done. Wjxhuang,  the 888th Avatar  {Talk} 12:23, February 9, 2010 (UTC)

Thanks. -- Supermorff 17:09, February 9, 2010 (UTC)

Hello, Wjxhuang
Hello, Wjxhuang. This user page and talk page was recently vandalized. PLEASE rollback the edit and block the IP if you can and if not, contact another admin. Many thanks,  Tommy  talk page 00:35, February 11, 2010 (UTC)


 * Hi there! I believe the page has been fixed by someone else. I apologise, but I'm not an admin here, so there's no real way I can help for these types of things. Wjxhuang,  the 888th Avatar  {Talk} 07:54, February 11, 2010 (UTC)

What's up?
Haven't seen you in a while, huh? I was checking out some discussions and saw your name, so I thought I'd just say hi. If you don't know who I am, don't feel bad; it's been a long time since I've last been over at Avatar Wiki. What with the great job you guys have done, I figured there wasn't much more that needed doing. Anyway, I thought it was cool to see you again, but I wouldn't be surprised if you don't remember me. Later, --Gaylesking Gaylessignature.png Talk. I will listen. 04:34, February 20, 2010 (UTC)


 * Hi Gaylesking! Of course I remember - I rarely forget users on wikis. Thank you for your comments about Avatar Wiki, and best wishes in any wiki endeavours you are currently seeking. :) Wjxhuang,  the 888th Avatar  {Talk} 04:41, February 20, 2010 (UTC)

yes but how
ok a pattern design image, but how do i put it into the background what options do i use to put it in the background


 * This involves css. If you have a suitable pattern image, you can go to the MediaWiki:Monaco.css on your wiki. There are three areas that make up the background, and in css they are #wikia_header, #background_strip and #body. Therefore,

background: #FFFFFF url } }  background: #FFFFFF url }
 * 1) background_strip {
 * 1) body { background-image: url
 * 1) wikia_header {
 * However, I wouldn't advise changing the first one (background_strip), because that's where the logo is. If you need any more help, once again, Help:Customizing Monaco offers much more information that you can peruse at your own leisure. Wjxhuang,  the 888th Avatar  {Talk} 03:57, February 25, 2010 (UTC)

Thanx...LunaBella 23:45, February 27, 2010 (UTC)

-(___)- It did not work. It just says the code now.

Help please!

&#91; &#91;User: LunaBella&#124; &lt;span style=&quot;font-family: Lucida Handwriting; color: violet; &quot;&gt;LunaBella&lt; / span&gt;&#93; &#93; 00:00, February 28, 2010 (UTC)


 * You haven't ticked the box under the signature field in your preferences, so "Custom signature" isn't enabled at the moment. Tick the box and it will fix. Wjxhuang,  the 888th Avatar  {Talk} 08:55, February 28, 2010 (UTC)

I know now.

It's just when i tried to earlier, it said it was not a right code or something.

But thank you.

LunaBella 10:57, February 28, 2010 (UTC)


 * You're welcome. :) Wjxhuang,  the 888th Avatar  {Talk} 10:58, February 28, 2010 (UTC)

Bonjour!

 * Désolé mon vieux mais je ne parle que français, faudra faire avec, mais je peut collé ici des liens de traduction automatique en anglais et en français A+Wikisoft* @@@-fr 15:16, March 10, 2010 (UTC)


 * [Traduction-FR]


 * [Translate-EN]


 * Voilà, Salut A+Wikisoft* @@@-fr 15:23, March 10, 2010 (UTC)


 * Okay. In that case isn't the French Central Wikia better for you? The 888th Avatar   (talk)  22:24, March 10, 2010 (UTC)

Hello.(您好. )
中文原版：

您好，我來自Wikia中文，以下的問題需要你的幫助.

請把澳門網絡大典合併到馬交網際百科.

這一個wiki長期沒有人編輯與維護.

這個wiki的資料侵犯了版權.

English translation：

Hello, I'm from Wikia中文, the following questions need your help.

Please send 澳門網絡大典 to 馬交網際百科 merger

This is a wiki editing and maintenance of long-term no one.

This wiki information on copyright infringement

--用戶 16:29, March 16, 2010 (UTC)


 * 對不起,只有staff能辦這種事情.Special:Contact是聯繫他們最快的辦法. (Sorry, only staff can do stuff like this. Special:Contact is the fastest method of contact.) The 888th Avatar   (talk)  23:14, March 16, 2010 (UTC)

Hello
When I message you, can you message on my talk page? I messaged you a while back about problems with a vandalized user page, it took me a while to find the message here. Sorry I didn't see it.  Tommy  talk page 22:23, March 16, 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks, I find this easier then having to look at the talk page again. I sometimes forget to look there and by then it's covered up with other messages. Thank you again!  Tommy  talk page 23:19, March 16, 2010 (UTC)

Help
You seem quite knowledgable on wiki stuff, mind helping me with a few things? =)

EmperorZelos 19:08, March 22, 2010 (UTC)


 * Sure, what do you need help with? The 888th Avatar   (talk)  08:06, March 23, 2010 (UTC)
 * Wiktionary have a way here where templates to create entries for various things selected can be done, do you know how to add it to a wiki? EmperorZelos 14:51, March 24, 2010 (UTC)

Something similar is certainly possible, but without access to the software, not in the same way that Wiktionary has done. preload=name of template to use This comes out as preload=name of template to use Basically, you create a template with all the formatting you want, and then make a createbox so that articles can be started from there. I think the most complete example of the type of solution I'm talking about on Wikia is from The Vault, the Fallout Wiki - you can take a look at that as a guide.

On the other hand, I have my guesses that Wikia will eventually have this feature as an extension of this feature. The 888th Avatar  (talk)  06:14, March 25, 2010 (UTC)

Hub:Big wikis
Please try to avoid getting into an edit war over this, I can concur that it doesn't take two lines, for the record. Why not leave him a message? -- 03:44, March 28, 2010 (UTC)




 * It's not an edit war yet, and I wouldn't revert a third time in any case, but thanks anyway for the reminder and suggestion. I'm not sure about Bulldozer, but I seem to remember that you are using the full width rather than the shrinkwrap? That might explain why it's one line for you. Here's a screenshot of what happens when the full name is used. The 888th Avatar   (talk)  03:58, March 28, 2010 (UTC)


 * Yes, I'm using full width. But I've also looked at it without and it appears if you make it into 3 columns, you can avoid abbreviations. -- 04:24, March 28, 2010 (UTC)


 * It's a good idea, but I think I found a better one - use slashes and remove the ambiguity of having abbreviations. :) The 888th Avatar   (talk)  09:29, March 28, 2010 (UTC)

Assistance
How does one direct what template is used for page creation through the search engine like on Fallout Wiki? I ahve attempted fixing it but failed The Emperor Zelos 19:30, April 8, 2010 (UTC)


 * Do you mean the text that appears on top of a new page - (w:c:fallout:MediaWiki:Newarticletext)? The 888th Avatar   (talk)  23:04, April 8, 2010 (UTC)

bot queries
hi, I see your name on the bot list http://community.wikia.com/wiki/Community_Central_talk:AutoWikiBrowser/CheckPage/Archive_2, http://community.wikia.com/wiki/Community_Central:AutoWikiBrowser/CheckPage

Can I ask you some stuff regarding bots? Cos I am thinking of getting one up, but I don't find much documentation on Wikia, and I don't quite understand those on Wikipedia (sorry, old dogs like me find it tough to absorb new tech, ;)) I would like to hear some thoughts from users first as well (pros and cons, what are the current bugs etc) before I go asking the staff, knowing how busy they are.

So here they are:
 * why are there 2 lists, for human and for bot? must I be on both lists? do i have to create a new user account for the human? or can I use my existing User:Gin-san account? what user rights must they be given?
 * is it necessary to have a separate account for the bot? naming conventions, can I say use the name, MS-RX78-Ginsan? or must it have the word 'bot' in it at all costs?
 * I intend to use the bot to do the following tasks:
 * replace terminology, e.g. "Odd Jobs Gin" to Yorozuya, is that what bots can do?
 * add internal links to other articles, e.g. change all Yorozuya to Yorozuya
 * rename images, e.g. pandemonium.jpg to pandemonium_mug.jpg
 * assign license to the 600+ images, I will be damned if I am going to do that manually (ToT)
 * correct spelling errors in romaji or wrong conventions, e.g. Kotaro Katsura to Katsura Kotarou
 * apply templates to pages using superseded templates, i.e. replace templates on certain category of pages, e.g. replace template:Gintama:Character with template Gintama-char on about 200 pages
 * is it advisable to have bots on newly started wikis? I am doing a chinese version zh.yinhun.gintama.com, which is the chinese doppelganger for gintama.wikia.com, primarily to import xml from the english to the chinese site and attach the respective language links? and maybe replace stock english phrases with chinese characters, I think i can identify them using the japanese kanji, ... or maybe not (god knows how I can do that, but ... ah, well, let's see how it goes)
 * thanks a lot in advance Gin-san (Talk) 09:49, April 15, 2010 (UTC)


 * Hi, Gin-san! This is going to be a long reply...
 * AWB isn't a true bot; the checkpage is for AWB, not bots in every sense of the word. There are many that use AWB, but few who can use fully automated scripts like Pywikipedia (I have it, but never use it). However, for most applications, you won't really need Pywikipedia (but it is much more flexible). AWB does have an automated setting anyway that is almost like a true bot.
 * Let's see - that list has humans and bots because most people who operate AWB will have two separate accounts. The human one almost certainly doesn't have a local bot flag while the bot one often does. As AWB can be used for variety of applications, the specific situation dictates the account used. You don't have to be on both lists, but you won't be able to use AWB at all if you are not on one. No additional rights are required to operate AWB; just a line on the checkpage.
 * Many prefer separate bot accounts, principally because it separates the user's bot actions from the actions they have done by hand. This is useful when one account has a bot flag. It also stops one account from having a huge inflated edit count. There's no rule against not having a bot account, but it seems to be the way most do it. There's absolutely no requirement for it to have a name containing "bot", but for courtesy you should indicate to others that it is actually a bot account.
 * AWB, which is quite easy to use, can do everything that you've asked about except for renaming images. You won't need to know any scripts. Most of what you're asking about is text replacement or appending text, which are basic AWB functions. You just enter what you want replaced in a few tables and forms, make a list of pages you wish to change, and start. For renaming images, which is an admin action, you will need Pywikipedia, and thus an understanding of the programming language Python.
 * There isn't anything against having bots on new wikis.
 * Documentation for AWB is extensive, but for what you are doing, you won't really need it if you are careful enough. Once you open AWB, it is fairly self-explanatory (or that is what I found). Just don't automate it until you're sure there's no mistakes. Pywikipedia has a few scripts and some info available, but to get the most out of it, you really need to know Python and probably regex as well.
 * Hope that all helps. The 888th Avatar   (talk)  10:18, April 15, 2010 (UTC)


 * wow, thanks, sorry to bug you but some more doubts below ....
 * so the bot doesn't inherit all the user rights that I have? if I am admin, I set up a bot, that bot is only a regular user? no deletion rights, for e.g?
 * Are the bot functions restricted to 1 wiki? Can I say, set the bot to update Wikia community's Gintama page, Animanga's Gintama page & Gintama main page whenever new tankoubons are released?
 * Have you used them to make blog posts or announcements before? Can they be set up to grab say, facebook or tweets and re-produce them on the wikia blog? Gin-san (Talk) 12:04, April 15, 2010 (UTC)

The bot has your user rights if it's operating on your account. If it's on a separate account, it's assigned rights separately. So if you set up a new account for a bot, it starts as a regular user. Bot functions can be used on many wikis once you get one. For AWB, you just change the site address, and for Pywikipedia, you make a family folder. For blog posts and announcements, you can do this with Pywikipedia (not AWB though), but I've never done this. The 888th Avatar  (talk)  01:37, April 16, 2010 (UTC)


 * You know what? The light bulb just lit up in my head, I was searching for a function to 'create bot account' INSIDE my usual account ... *slap myself* Thanks a million, really appreciate! Gin-san (Talk) 05:48, April 16, 2010 (UTC)


 * Great; no problem at all. :) The 888th Avatar   (talk)  13:09, April 16, 2010 (UTC)

The is about the copy and paste from word. I use the MS word to compose what I'm going to write. I do this local so I can add and delete and then summit it. I use firefox. I find chrome good but it little hard to add thing like add on. I take the output fro pagem MS word through note pad that filters out all the stuff you don't see. The take output from notepad into the web. If I use the web through wikia I have to keep having to log back in because of time out.

Galleries
Do you know of anything that could be added to the CSS so galleries will auto center? I know that will do that, but all the galleries on Memory Alpha were auto-centered unless otherwise aligned before the update, and we would like to have it like that again. - 07:03, April 26, 2010 (UTC)


 * I've tried to fix this, but so far I've unfortunately been unable to produce one. :( Maybe you could try Special:Contact; staff will probably know more about the galleries than me. The 888th Avatar   (talk)  07:42, April 26, 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for at least trying. :) - 20:31, April 27, 2010 (UTC)


 * I talked to another user later and it turns out that setting the width of the galleries to a definite figure (rather than my "auto" which wasn't effective) and using the rest of my personal CSS does the job. However, that is a pretty bad hack that doesn't really work for some resolutions, so I advocate lobbying Wikia for a parameter in the gallery tag for aligning to centre. :) The 888th Avatar   (talk)  23:57, April 27, 2010 (UTC)

Thanks
You seem to generally know a lot about Wikia and answer many forum questions. So two months is a very short time? It seems strange, though, that the wiki would rank at all if it will ever rank well. Because I edit wikipedia, and one thing I've realized is that it takes 1-2 days for a page to rank, BUT, Once it does, it's as high as it will ever be. Pages on The Finger Lakes Wiki will show up, but it takes a very specific query or they will be very low. I've just been editing the page a lot in the last couple days, but it's getting to be summer and I will not be doing this on a nice day! Daniel Christensen 01:17, May 1, 2010 (UTC)


 * One thing I'd point out is that the main page NEVER shows up in a result. It will always be some page. Also, for some pages, they will show up as a result of a query that's NOT their title, but when you search "their title" and "the finger lakes wiki" they DON'T show up... Hopefully that's understandable. Daniel Christensen 01:21, May 1, 2010 (UTC)


 * Wikipedia's entries get a "free kick", if you will, because of the encyclopedia's size, the number of links to it, and their relevance. Smaller wikis though have to the job the hard way. I highly recommend following the steps in c:help:Advice:Advice:Raising your wiki's Google ranking in this regard. With the main page, it does show up...once the wiki becomes popular enough. About title searches not yielding results from the wiki, that implies there are higher ranked sites with the same title criteria, but the same sites don't have as many pages as your wiki, so searches for smaller titles for which you have a page will have better results. The 888th Avatar   (talk)  09:28, May 1, 2010 (UTC)