Forum:Is there any way to make the source editor tab be on top in the editing window by default?

Some editors prefer the source editor (Wikipedia-style editing). Some browsers work better with it, too. It is currently not possible for the source editor tab to be on top by default in the editing window. Currently, the visual editor tab is on top by default. This wastes a lot of time.

The only way to put the source tab on top is by disabling the visual editor in one's preferences. But then this means one can not easily use the visual editor for those times when it can be very helpful.

There has to be a better way. Is there some way to force the source editor to be on top by default by changing one's personal JS or CSS? Also, can it be done sitewide on a wiki without violating the terms of use. Timeshifter (talk) 19:36, January 20, 2012 (UTC)


 * Tagging Staff needed. Your question is likely better asked at Special:Contact/general. Individual users can turn off the visual editor (aka RTE) in their user preferences, so Wikia is probably not motivated to give admins the choice to default to the source mode of the editor wiki-wide. It would be nice if Wikia maintained the source-only editor with equal effort as the visual editor. The visual editor causes almost as many problems as it solves. -- Fandyllic (talk &middot; contr) 23 Jan 2012 4:49 PM Pacific


 * I asked about something similar via Special:Contact or a blog comment. One of the devs thought it was a good idea, but I haven't heard anything since. I asked about having one's Wikia cookie remember the last editing tab (source or visual editing tab).


 * I think my latest idea may be simpler to implement. Plus I had hopes that some of the CSS and JS experts here might be able to give me a custom fix in the meantime. Timeshifter (talk) 00:40, January 24, 2012 (UTC)
 * You can disable it on a per-page basis by placing the magic word __NOWYSIWYG__ at the top of a page. 00:48, January 24, 2012 (UTC)


 * That's not what Timeshifter wants, but it is a good tip. I just turn off the visual editor completely, even though I miss the fully functional CategorySelect feature. -- Fandyllic (talk &middot; contr) 23 Jan 2012 7:43 PM Pacific


 * I thought of another way that might work. I would like an on-off toggle link in the "wiki tools" menu here:
 * http://cannabis.wikia.com/wiki/MediaWiki:Wiki-navigation
 * It would toggle "Enable visual editor" in preferences (check and uncheck it).


 * I believe this may be possible because there is already a link to change preferences (at least for one page) in the wiki tools menu. I am talking about the link called "Monobook skin". Click it to see what I mean. Here is an example of its results on one page:
 * http://cannabis.wikia.com/index.php?title=MediaWiki%3AWiki-navigation&useskin=monobook
 * I just want a way to access the visual editor fast when needed. For the rest of the time I only need the source editor. Currently, the only way I can have the source editor on top in the editing window is to completely disable the visual editor in preferences. Timeshifter (talk) 03:46, January 24, 2012 (UTC)


 * In all seriousness... good luck. -- Fandyllic (talk &middot; contr) 24 Jan 2012 5:30 PM Pacific


 * I sent in a message via Special:Contact/general - the black hole where many messages die. :) It looks like no one is replying here with some custom implementation methods. Timeshifter (talk) 06:50, January 28, 2012 (UTC)