User talk:Sannse

Please add new messages to the bottom, thanks :) -- sannse (talk)

hebrew unciclopadia
we have the range of "מדריך" (handbook) and also the range of "עזרה" (help). i ask you to remove the range "עזרה" beacouse we don't need him any more and also remove the range "forum". 15:55, 4 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Hi, I've had a look, it seems there are pages in מדריך which will be perminantly lost if they are not moved out of the namespace before it is deleted. Are you sure that's what you want?  I would recomend keeping מדריך, because that may be linked to the Help Wikia in the future (although it will probably be some time before that available in Hebrew).  Forum looks OK to remove, but an alternative would be to translate that, and create a forum like the Village Dump on Uncyclopedia.  Let me know what you prefer :) -- sannse (talk) 09:56, 6 May 2008 (UTC)
 * *i meaned to remove "עזרה" and to stay "מדריך".

'''the site is gatting bigger so we opened dougter rangesto hebrew uncyclopadia.thank. 12:51, 11 May 2008 (UTC)
 * to remove forum becouse until now we didn't decided to open range for talks.
 * to change "איןמילון talk" to "שיחת איןמילון"
 * to change "איןציטוט talk" to "שיחת איןציטוט"
 * to open 3 more ranges: "איןטקסט", "איןדבר", "איןספר" (equal to unews' unbook and untext in Uncyclopadia)/
 * to give space for speacial logo for each range/
 * hello again, we also need an otomatic system that check if the user have vote right (100 contributes and month of activity). can those user have a title (like "sysop" or "rollback") like "vote right"? we mean contributes only in main range,or "איןמילון", "איןציטוט", "איןטקסט", "איןדבר", "אין ספר" ranges. 11:46, 12 May 2008 (UTC)


 * OK, so this is turning out rather complicated - it seems my tools don't like right-to-left languages! So I'm going to need to get some technical help.  But first, let's make sure I have the namespaces right.  Don't worry about the numbers, just let me know if all of the namespaces are as you want them.
 * On special logos... that's not something that can be done by Wikia - but the English Uncyclopedia worked out a way to do it with their own javascript. You can ask them for help in getting that on the Hebrew version
 * On an automatic system to check rights etc... I don't know of any way to do that. A user right like "rollback" has to be set manually, it's not done automatically.  You can get information on edit counts from Special:Editcount, but again, that would be manual -- sannse (talk) 19:03, 12 May 2008 (UTC)


 * -2: מדיה
 * -1: מיוחד
 * 0:
 * 1: שיחה
 * 2: משתמש
 * 3: שיחת משתמש
 * 4: איןציקלופדיה
 * 5: שיחת איןציקלופדיה
 * 6: תמונה
 * 7: שיחת תמונה
 * 8: מדיה ויקי
 * 9: שיחת מדיה ויקי
 * 10: תבנית
 * 11: שיחת תבנית
 * 12: מדריך
 * 13: שיחת מדריך
 * 14: קטגוריה
 * 15: שיחת קטגוריה
 * 100: איןציטוט
 * 101: שיחת איןציטוט
 * 120: איןמילון
 * 121: שיחת איןמילון
 * 112: איןספר
 * 113: שיחת איןספר
 * 114: איןדבר
 * 115: שיחת איןדבר
 * 116: איןטקסט
 * 117: שיחת איןטקסט
 * a.0 means the main range? b.i thoght about it' we can use also the range "forum" but please change is name to ""בית קפה" and it's talk pages to "שיחת בית קפה". c. i had a mistake, i meaned "איןחדש" and wrote mistakly "איןדבר"/ the other ranges is o.k. thanks.


 * Yes, 0 is the main namespace. I had to do some moving around to get ready for this.  I know that means that the handbook pages are in "עזרה", but don't worry about that.  It will be fixed as they are changed.  Thanks for your patience in getting this right! -- sannse (talk) 17:31, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

the new ranges in hebrew eincyclopadia
tanks about the improving. 3 notes: 22:22 19 May 2008 (UTC) tanks, again. 22:02, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
 * please rename "עזרה" to "מדריך", as our community decided.
 * please rename "איןדבר" to "איןחדש", as i altered my ask.
 * please add "בית קפה" range (forum new name).


 * Hi, there are some problems with getting this right, but I'll keep working with the techs to sort it out. Sorry about this -- sannse (talk) 20:18, 20 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Hopefully all is well now... please let me know whether you can see anything wrong! Thanks -- sannse (talk) 12:02, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

Danny Phantom Infobox
I am the editor for the Danny Phantom Wiki. I;m getting off the ground with some help from a few fans. One thing I;m trying to do is create an infobox for episodes. How do I make an Infobox? Markcambrone 00:46, 5 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Hi. An infobox is simply a table on the top right of the page.  To make them easier to add, people often use templates with variables.  A good, simple example is the Muppet's template at http://muppet.wikia.com/wiki/Template:Song
 * Info boxes can get very complicated, but the idea is to make a template on one page, and then use it on another with variables. The best way to make one, is to find a template that looks good to you, and copy it over to your wiki.  Some use /very/ complicated code, so it's best to avoid them, but you should find something useful.  You can ask other users for help with this in the Forums or on the Wikia IRC channel -- sannse (talk) 10:36, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

$wgFileExtensions
Hello Sannse,its me again (The Oracle from Custom Bionicles)

If you can please,add the file extension  to  to  of our wiki, Custom Bionicles.

P.S:Crazy-Lihkan38 and Toa Retyk (the other two admins on our wiki) have been gone for a while.Have you seen them contributing to another wiki,or are they on some sort of vacation?I can't really handle the site by myself!(I left a couple of messages to Crazy-Lihkan about other things,but he never replied)

-- Seth Laugh Edits 21:52, 6 May 2008 (UTC)


 * .bmp images are not a good think to add to a wiki. They tend to be very large, unnecessarily so.  Is there a special reason you want them?  It's generally much better to convert to a more sensible compressed format like .jpg or .gif


 * On the other admins, I've not seen them, but they could be somewhere... why not try the "email this user" link? Maybe that will reach them?  You might also want to think about adding new admins to the wiki.  I've made you a bureaucrat on custombionicle so you can do that.  Hope that helps -- sannse (talk) 20:36, 7 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Well,one of the new users to the wiki (I think he came from our sister wiki,Bioniclepedia) has a lot of  files.
 * I tried e-mailing Crazy Lihkan before,he either blocked that option or doesn't have an email.I'm going to try e-mail Toa Retyk now,though.
 * -- Seth Laugh Edits 21:22, 7 May 2008 (UTC)
 * [Edit:I e-mailed Toa Retyk,so now I am going to wait.I am going to make Hodoka2 a admin for now.]


 * It's much better for those files to be converted to .jpg or .gif rather than uploaded as .bmp - which is very easy to do. All you need to do is open them in any image manipulation program, and the "save as" changing the file type.  If you know how to set it to compress them at the same time, that's great, but even changing the file type will be a big improvement in the size of the files.  -- sannse (talk) 19:52, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

Desysop
Can I have my sysops removed at Wookieepedia please? Thank you. 16:13, 7 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Hi StarNeptune, is there a problem? If it's just that you are inactive at the moment, why not leave them in case you want them in the future?  There's no harm to that :) -- sannse (talk) 20:37, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

help me
help, some vandal is defacing the kirby wiki, i don't have banning rights to ban him, can you help, or at least get help? Bob The Geomancer 21:30, 7 May 2008 (UTC) Please help, please help, i can't turn the corner without him vandaling, he's even vandaled my talk page Bob The Geomancer 21:50, 7 May 2008 (UTC)


 * All fixed, and the IP is blocked. You can often find help faster in you ask in the Wikia IRC channel.  There is a web-interface at http://irc.wikia.com/ .  So why don't you just ask Dantman if you can become an admin there? :) -- sannse (talk) 09:44, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

Domain
I notice that memory-alpha address has a domain in it http://memory-alpha.org/en/wiki/Star_Trek Was wondering could I as well I have one by godaddy (Benjeman Washington 03:13, 14 May 2008 (UTC))


 * Some very large wikis that moved to Wikia kept their domain names as they moved. But generally, we don't offer that.  I'm afraid the wikia URL has to stay -- sannse (talk) 17:40, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

help to do peace in our site
hellow' it's me again from hebrew eincyclopadia. before tow weeks we had vote about closing the site for 1 day- which in Isreal is the memory day of the holocost/ a user' who is sysop on english Unsyclopadia' called "Mordillo" called me a dictator and make a fight between me and some other users (teenagers). until than our community was vary peaceful and harmonyful community. since then almost every day i get words from those users that call me dictator and angry about me/ as you see my English is not so good, but i want to be peace in the communty. please answer me in my talk page here to don't make the fire up. thanks/ 17:20, 15 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Reply at User talk:ינון


 * tanks, it's seem like the peace return (i hope). 22:15, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

Help with related communities
Hi Sannse, some time ago I came across a way to make the Related Communities box not display when I'm signed in. I now see from Green Wikia that it looks as if I can customise this box which would be good to reciprocate links with them and others, but I'm really stumped as to how to get the box to display again. Hope you can help! Philralph @ sca21 16:30, 16 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Hi, I'm not sure about this... I don't recall seeing that box for a while now. Possibly it was an experiment that didn't catch on.  Let me check it out, and I'll get back to you -- sannse (talk) 11:49, 19 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Found the answer quicker than I thought :) the box is still there - but only for logged out users. You can edit it at MediaWiki:Monaco-related-communities... but it's an extra for anons, to encourage them to find wikis they want to sign in to, rather than a standard part of the sidebar for all -- sannse (talk) 12:06, 19 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Hi, Thanks for this Philralph @ sca21 15:41, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

NWN2Wiki going to monaco
Yes please let us implement and change it ourselves, folks changing our skins on us makes our community get defensive which has happened a few times, but i like what you did.

Last time i made a change I implemented it just for my own account so i could refine and test it. Can i do it like this with the monaco you did. This way I can try it for a week or so before I change the default, and others can too. I'll make the larger community aware of this after i get a chance to look at it - this site acts as the real manual for the game so it is very active because of that, and we have quite a few sub communities here as well. I want to make sure each groups leader has a chance to say they like the change.

I think folks would not mind a change, they just need their favorite buttons where they can find them. Pain 20:16, 16 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Reply at w:c:nwn2:User talk:Pain

Sin City Admin
Hi sorry if I get anything wrong while posting here...I'm very new to this. I've been adding new pages to the long dead Sin City wiki and after working a bit on it (13 or so new pages) I found out about becoming the new Administrator. If you don't mind, could you do me the kindness of making me the new site admin? Once again I apologize if anything in this post is incorrect for this kind of request. SerenityValley


 * Sure :) I've made you admin and bureaucrat there... let me know if you need any help with the buttons. Have fun! -- sannse (talk) 12:11, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

Adopt Bahrain
Hi, I'd like to revive and adopt the Bahrain wikia. Can I get adminship rights? Thanks --Arabbi 20:47, 19 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Yes, that's fine, you are all set :) You may need to log out and in again to see the change. Good luck with the wiki! -- sannse (talk) 19:00, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

Hello Sannse!
I've been having this problem with a template that the users of the FFWiki had made. We made it and people asked if they could use it for their wiki. We said yes, just as long as the credit us for making it. The other day a user from the wiki that I edit told me about it. He said a user from the Homestar Runner wiki had made it. I go over to investigate. I put the credits on the Template page and they get reverted. I ask the user that put the coding on the wiki about it, my edits get reverted, I ask the person who reverted my edits why he did it, they were also reverted. So I go and get proof and post it on the Template's talkpage. That is also reverted. Then, well look.Can you please help me out? P.S most of them have been rude to me, all except a user named Znex -Azul 21:35, 19 May 2008 (UTC)


 * While it may not be strictly proper, copying template code has generally been considered as harmless on wikis. In fact, it's generally considered to be the best way to learn about and develop templates.  I can understand your annoyance, as this is a particularly unique template, but I'm not sure this was worth more than a polite request on a talk page to add attribution (and that to the template page, not to the template).  If you want to take this further, you will have to contact the admins and hosts of hrwiki - it's not a Wikia wiki, so I can't help with that. -- sannse (talk) 19:35, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

Merging
Hello Sannse,

Its the Oracle again.Me and the people at Custom Bionicles plus the people of BioFanFic wiki are thinking about merging,since BioFanFic & Custom Bionicles have the same topic but different names.If you would help with this it would be greatly appreciated.

--  Seth Laugh Edits 23:25, 19 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Sure :) I'll ask JSharp to help with this. -- sannse (talk) 19:37, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

Interlanguages
Hi Sannse, Can you take a look at this.--BlueDevil Talk 22:07, 20 May 2008 (UTC)


 * A good reminder thanks :) I'll try and look at interlanguage links today -- sannse (talk) 08:41, 21 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Ok, Thanks.--BlueDevil Talk 19:34, 21 May 2008 (UTC)


 * All done. They should work in all directions now (although it sometimes takes a few hours for everything to take) -- sannse (talk) 19:44, 22 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Thanks. But yet there is a problem that it links to Persian Wikia like this:
 * http://fa.www.wikia.com/wiki/User:BlueDevil
 * The fa is not in the right place.--BlueDevil Talk 20:21, 22 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Oops! how did I do that? OK, I've fixed it, again it may take a few hours to show as the fixed link.  sorry about that -- sannse (talk) 12:06, 23 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Thanks for your help.--BlueDevil Talk 20:33, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

Requesting admin and bureaucrat privileges on Rappelz Wiki
Hi, I made a request for the bureaucrat and sysop flags two days ago on CatherineMunro's talk page, but apparently she is not checking her talk page often. Could you please set those flags for me? Thanks in advance, Drennan 07:30, 23 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Hi, as this is an active wiki, I've done this a different way and given AuranX the ability to set admins. He can now add the flags as needed :) -- sannse (talk) 12:10, 23 May 2008 (UTC)


 * That will work too, I'll explain to him how to find the controls. ^^ (Hope he logs on in the near future as work is just piling up.) Thank you. Drennan 12:27, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

Hello Sannse
Hello Sannse, It's been a long time since I was active in wikia. And now, I think, the community to which my wiki "karl May" should belong to is finally ready to get active on this wiki, I hope so, after such a long time to convince them. And I will be adding new material soon. Sorry for my long non-active period.

I see now wikia has changed. I hope for the better.

But the community ask me to protect some of the text inside it. The text I mentioned will be e-Books (at least there will be three) and they want me to protect that in such a way that the text cannot be copied right from the website and people can only read it. Further more, can they be protected with passwords and if people wants to read it they should ask for the password first. Can it be done? If the password cannot be applied, it doesn't matter, but the copy-paste protection is somewhat a must. This is a request from the community itself.

And from now on, I only plan to manage Karl May Wiki, so I would like to give the other wikis to people who want to use them.

Thank you

Agus elex 2005 07:57, 23 May 2008 (UTC)


 * I'm sorry that's not possible, not only technically, but also because all content on Wikia must be under a free license (the GFDL) which means that people are allowed to copy and re-use the text. If the text is not suitable for this license, then I'm afraid it's not suitable for Wikia -- sannse (talk) 12:13, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

Bot flag
Hello Sannse. I only recently found out that local bureaucrats are not allowed to assign bot flags. Could you please set the flag for DrennanBot on the Rappelz Wiki? It is going to create articles from an offline database of monsters in the game, using a reasonable amount of throttling of course. The bot is based on pywikipedia. Thank you, Drennan 15:01, 26 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Hi, that should be no problem.... can you just confirm that the community on the wiki agrees with this bot being used? Thanks -- sannse (talk) 17:07, 26 May 2008 (UTC)
 * As far as I know, the community at the moment consists of Najevi and me. I agree with the bot being used and Najevi seems to agree with it as well, or at least he didn't actively protest after I tested my bot and asked in the forums what naming conventions it should follow. If you insist, I can start a poll, though. :) Drennan 17:19, 26 May 2008 (UTC)
 * I announced it here: c:Rappelz:Forum:Bot to create stubs for all mobs. Drennan 09:05, 27 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Perfect, thanks Drennan - the bot is flagged -- sannse (talk) 10:37, 27 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Thank you. Drennan 10:42, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

Vandal problems
Hi Sannse, im a member of the FFwiki, and for the past half an hour, we have been having some vandal problems with | this user and | This one. our admins are all gone at the moment, so i was wondering if you could help us by banning them.--Superaeon35 17:38, 26 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Alright Sannse, I'm back at the Wiki, so I've blocked him. However, he's persistent, so I'd like to lock annon edits and user creation for a day or two. How would I do that? I was going to ask on the Wikia IRC channel, but apparently someone got my name banned on the main channel. Diablocon 18:10, 26 May 2008 (UTC)
 * I've put a new extension on to finalfantasy.wikia that allows you to do some of this - it's at Special:Protectsite. It won't stop user creation, because that's common to the whole of Wikia, but you can restrict editing for a while.  Each protection only lasts for a maximum of 24 hours, because this is supposed to be for emergencies, but that should help you out.  One bug: if you restrict moves to logged in users, it will actually be admin only (hopefully that will be fixed soon).  Hope it helps!  And let me know if I can do anything else -- sannse (talk) 10:44, 27 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Oh, and on IRC... There don't appear to be any bans that should affect your nick. It may be your IP that's banned... shared computer or variable IP?  I've cleared the ban list, so please let me know if you have more problems -- sannse (talk) 11:04, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

Spanish Math
Could you please look into this issue I raised on the Spanish Mathematics Wikia 4 months ago? I also left Rieke Hain (listed as Helper) a message about it on his talk page here, but that wasn't responded to either. Looks like none of the currently active users (all three of them) have any special privileges on the wiki. - dcljr 08:19, 27 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Hi, I've unprotected the main page, so you can make any changes needed. I'll also check the Interlanguage links later today, make sure they all work.  Rieke has left Wikia unfortunately, and it looks like the admin for that wiki hasn't been active for a long time.  Perhaps you and the other active editors can decide on one or more of you becoming the new admins? (or even all of you).  Let me know -- sannse (talk) 11:21, 27 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Hmm. AFAICT, the main page is still locked. - dcljr 07:44, 28 May 2008 (UTC)
 * That was very strange... it seems the unprotection didn't take, even when I repeated it. Jaymach got it working with a two step unprotaction, and a few tests showed the problem didn't repeat... so all should be OK now.  Sorry for the confusion -- sannse (talk) 10:49, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

Necyklopedie
Hi, ''can you let me know of any other examples of images breaking? And were they working when first added, or broken from the start?'' For example I had a problem with some images at this template. I must to give there 49px instead of 50px (original width of these icons is 400px). I also remember the article Ukrajina, where one image in the gallery was wrong, but now it displays correct, without any change of the parameters. If you mean merging of the [edit] button with the text, it happens at all pages, where are more pictures one below another. This is probably on all wikis except German Uncyclopedia. Many thanks. --Karkos 12:46, 29 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Reply at User talk:Karkos -- sannse (talk) 16:31, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks for Your answer. Should I report all broken images I find or not? --Karkos 18:40, 29 May 2008 (UTC)


 * One more thing: Could we define own names of namespaces? We would like our portals call Regál:something. --Karkos 18:48, 29 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Reply at User talk:Karkos -- sannse (talk) 19:27, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Many thanks. The namespace Portál (as is on Czech Wikipedia) we don´t use. But we would like to add new namespace Regál (at this moment, there are some pages with this title, but they are enlisted in the main namespace) and we speculated also about a namespace Žumpa (we didn´t agreed definitely, whether do we need it). --Karkos 20:35, 29 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Reply at User talk:Karkos -- sannse (talk) 15:35, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

Thank You very much, so we would like please to create new namespaces Regál: and Regál diskuse: --Karkos 18:18, 30 May 2008 (UTC)


 * OK, done. -- sannse (talk) 09:34, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Many thanks for everything. --Karkos 12:26, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

Hello, i´ve got one more problem with images:. --Karkos 15:33, 2 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Hey, I don't see any problems there... what's up? -- sannse (talk) 16:09, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

Main Language Change in a Wiki Site
Hello, I got a damn problem for me, please see Forum:Need for help.....

Because originally, I applied for a Wiki site in Chinese language, but some experts reviewed my Wiki site and recommend mme to change the main language, what will I have to do? If I'd like to change the main language. (easier to say: my change plan zh.miceworld -> en.miceworld)

Regards. BrockF5 12:30, 30 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Good to talk to you on IRC - all sorted :) -- sannse (talk) 13:02, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

help
i am interested in becoming a helper on pro wrestling plz let me know how to do this leave me a message at http://prowrestling.wikia.com/wiki/User_talk:Suckup_103 or here Suckup 103 19:16, 2 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Hi, "helpers" are interns and contractors working for Wikia.  I don't think that's what you mean?  If you are interested in being an admin on the wiki, then you should talk to one of the exisitng admins.  It looks like w:c:prowrestling:User:RobJ1981 is the most active at the moment :) -- sannse (talk) 16:48, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

Yes Helper not a admin i went over the helper janitor article and i am interestedSuckup 103 17:23, 5 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Humm... now you seem to be confusing Janitors and Helpers. And both of these are global roles, not something you can do on one wiki such as "pro wrestling".  But either way, thanks for your interest but I think you need some more experience on wikis, and time to build up a super-good reputation on Wikia :) -- sannse (talk) 10:10, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

Edit Tips
The headings in English Editing Tips are in different bars. When you click on different headings the information about it shows. But in Persian, all show in one page, all together! (Hope you can get what I mean). Thanks.--BlueDevil Talk 16:01, 5 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Yes, I see what you mean. I think the problem is the right to left text.  The headings need to be "level 1" headings for the system to know that's where to make a new box - and can't see that ==چگونه متن را ویرایش کنیم is a level 1 heading.  Looks like I'll need to get technical help with this one.  Thanks -- sannse (talk) 16:48, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

Dofus URL change effects
Well looks like it got finally change more on thursday than wenesday, any way many of the links (manually put or automatic) inside the pages are failing since they are directing to central wikia, Report pages are directing do dofus/Dofus/Report pages etc --Cizagna (Talk) 18:31, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

Replied over at Dofus - sannse (talk) 10:32, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

Hi, I heard you do favicons :)
Hey, I was wondering, could you perhaps help me out at JMarcoWiki in designing a favicon? That would be great, thanks in advance! Fou-Lu 14:52, 7 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Ooh, I've not done a favicon for ages! I should have some time over the weekend, I'll see what I can do -- sannse (talk) 15:53, 7 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Thank you very much, thank you very much Fou-Lu 14:32, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

Re: creatureswiki.com
Hello. I decided it would be more prudent to respond here to what you posted on Wookieepedia than continue the discussion there. I am curious- if Wikia's only intention was to prevent cybersquatters from purchasing the domain, why did they not simply encourage us, the leaders of our community and the originators of the name "Creatures Wiki", to purchase it ourselves, by which means we could actually make use of it and forward it to the site? As is, the people who wrote all the content on the site and maintain its integrity were not told a thing about it, and furthermore, the domain is simply being held (it does not even point anywhere!) because of its status as a commodity, rather than being put to use.

All of this sounds like the very definition of cybersquatting to me. Was Wikia intending to give us the domain later? Selling it to us, perhaps? (which definitely would count as cybersquatting.) Somehow, based on the fact that we were never told about this practice, I doubt it. ElasticMuffin 17:50, 7 June 2008 (UTC)


 * I think the first part of the reply is that this really wasn't considered any more than routine housekeeping... nothing that warranted any big discussion. I seem to recall it being mentioned at least a couple of times in the past on wikis, but I can't recall enough about that to point to the discussions.  And we certainly don't consider it cybersquatting, because these are wikis on Wikia we are talking about.  Where I think we may have made a mistake, is in not pointing these URLs to wikis.  But possibly it's simply more important to just make sure they don't lead to sites like http://www.wikiaa.com/
 * As for selling them to you... to who? The community is the people who use the wiki - that amorphous and ever-changing group can't own a URL.  An admin could, and they could wander off - as people do every day.  Wikia does a lot more than provide server space for our wikis.  We provide technical and community support.  We promote wikis and try to ensure they grow.  We work on search optimisation, and experiment on way to increase the number of people finding the edit button, and look at what features are most likely to ensure wikis grow and thrive... and we buy any URLs we think should be protected. -- sannse (talk) 19:55, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
 * That's all very nice, but are you willing to bet it will hold up in a trademark court or domain arbitration? You know how rights are established in a mark. We - the members of the Creatures Community, especially myself - are the ones who have worked our butts off establishing the Creatures Wiki as a site worthy of note. We are the ones who have advertised the service in interstate commerce. We are the ones who have obtained the rights to use much of the content of the site. You are the people we have chosen to host our continuing efforts up to this point. If we choose otherwise, you may soon find yourself in a situation where you cannot legally continue to host the site without radical modifications that would cost more than the site is worth to you. --GreenReaper(talk) 22:48, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Are you serious? Buying up relevant domains with high searchability and considerable value to a particular community and holding them without informing the people who run it is just "routine" and warrants no discussion?  I'm sorry, that's not supporting the 'community', that's just acting in your own interests.
 * I have been here maintaining the Creatures Wiki since the beginning and witnessed Wikicities' transformation from a friendly place that hosted wikis, to a company that seems to think it is cool to slap "Wikia" over everything and call it a community. We resisted being labeled a "gaming wiki", we resisted linking to other totally unrelated wikis, and we fought off the first attempts to convert us to other themes against our will and without community consent.  Wikia seems to have come to the incorrect conclusion that it owns the communities that it relies upon for money; in reality, it merely provides them a place to stay.  When your contributors leave, all you will have left is the content, and anyone can have that.  It's free, after all.  We are not your assets that must be protected, we are your customers.  It is neither your job nor your business to own this domain and I will not hesitate to warn others about these tactics going forward.  ElasticMuffin 04:34, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

Hi there, on IRC
Hi. If you're online about now, I'm afraid I can't use skype. Can you contact me on IRC? -- JSharp (talk) 05:13, 8 June 2008 (UTC)