Forum:2008 Feb 17 IRC meeting transcript

The following is a semi-sanitized version of the IRC chat transcript. All times listed are based in PST (California etc).

-User:PanSola(talk/history) 20:10, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
 * [13:00:37]  ok, let's get started. Self introduction time,
 * [13:00:46]  Hello
 * [13:00:48]  hi
 * [13:00:52] * PanSola is from GuildWiki, and is a sysop there
 * [13:00:52] * DuTempete is from WoWWiki
 * [13:00:57]  so pansola, youre like the moderator for this?
 * [13:00:57] * nq2h is from no wiki right now, lol
 * [13:01:03]  AzureDrake: kinda
 * [13:01:07] * GPT is from all kinds of Gaming Wikias, and is a sysop at many of them
 * [13:01:15] * Tesfan is a sysop @ runescapewiki
 * [13:01:15] * AzureDrake is from Final Fantasy
 * [13:01:18]  Just curious if anyone knows how to put in the search urls for ffxiclopdia into the Mozilla extension FFXI Helper application.
 * [13:01:24]  AzureDrake: PanSola is a Gaming Helper, and he runs the meetings every Sunday here.
 * [13:01:26]  GPT: list the mian ones you involve with please
 * [13:01:28]  is from WoWWiki, and doesen't know how ot make his text blue
 * [13:01:32] * Hunterj is a sysop at Ratchet & Clank wikia and SWGAmes
 * [13:01:38]  mine comes up orange...
 * [13:01:38]  -_-
 * [13:01:40]  Ose:sdjafklds
 * [13:01:46] * hexedmagica is from the FF and KH wikis?
 * [13:01:58]  Halopedia, de.Halopedia, Pfhorpedia, but I've been editing a few others I'm too lazy to find the names of
 * [13:02:00]  hexedmagica is handicapped
 * [13:02:01]  lol
 * [13:02:09]  AzureDrake: ?
 * [13:02:31] <GPT> Ose: say this: "/me is Ose"
 * [13:02:38] * Ose is Ose
 * [13:02:41] <GPT> there.
 * [13:02:44] * PanSola pokes Charitwo
 * [13:02:46] * Hunterj also edits some other small gaming wikis he wont name unless he needs to say somehting about them
 * [13:02:47] * Ose is cooooooooool
 * [13:02:48] * CBrannan is a sysop from EE Wiki
 * [13:02:48] * Charitwo is now known as c
 * [13:03:19] * PanSola pokes Dashiva
 * [13:03:20] * GPT is now known as tab-complete
 * [13:03:25] <AzureDrake> so uhh
 * [13:03:34] <AzureDrake> nice...conversation were having here
 * [13:03:34] <c> hi I'm Charitwo, I help everywhere
 * [13:03:43] <Dashiva> Oh
 * [13:03:43] <PanSola> any wikis got any issues they want to bring up this week?
 * [13:03:43] <AzureDrake> HI CHARITWO
 * [13:03:49] <AzureDrake> all of them
 * [13:04:00] <AzureDrake> the wikia server needs its yearly medicines
 * [13:04:02] <tab-complete> PanSola: the EVE Wiki has been mostly inactive for more than two years... needs contributors.
 * [13:04:17] <AzureDrake> if its been inactive for 2 years...
 * [13:04:17] <PanSola> GPT please go back to your normal nick
 * [13:04:19] <Dashiva> Yeah, the DB locks are becoming rather annoying in their numeriosity
 * [13:04:26] <tab-complete> PanSola: >_<
 * [13:04:28] * tab-complete is now known as GPT
 * [13:04:35] <Dashiva> In other news, I'm from tabula rasa
 * [13:04:38] <PanSola> the DB locks and session locks *should* be better this past week compared to earlier
 * [13:04:54] * Joins: myke54142
 * [13:04:59] <PanSola> does anyone feel the opposite? (that it's getting worse?)
 * [13:05:02] <PanSola> hi myke54142
 * [13:05:04] hi
 * [13:05:13] <PanSola> myke54142 which wiki are you from?
 * [13:05:15] <Dashiva> I can't say I've felt an improvement yet, but we'll see
 * [13:05:16] wow
 * [13:05:20] nope, definatly getting better, but still, needs improvement.
 * [13:05:40] * Parts: Drinian
 * [13:05:40] <PanSola> yeah, the guys are working on it, it's a top priority
 * [13:05:42] <Hunterj> SWGames is now (finally) STARTING to be a much more active wikia, we now have over 2000 articles as of today. We need more editors really but mind you what wiki doesn't?
 * [13:06:08] * Play|Away is now known as Playsonic2
 * [13:06:19] please stay on topic here -_-
 * [13:06:25] * Playsonic2 Is Back
 * [13:06:39] <PanSola> Hunterj: do you have more contributors too? or just the existing contributors becoming more active?
 * [13:07:00] <Dashiva> The Special:Export pollution is also rather annoying to those of us who use bot help on our wikis
 * [13:07:17] <PanSola> Dashiva: the attribution thing?
 * [13:07:22] <Dashiva> Yeah
 * [13:07:34] * Playsonic2 from Wikijuegos, Grand Theft Encyclopedia, Metal Gear Wiki and now The Legend of Zelda Wiki
 * [13:07:45] <PanSola> I'll nag the techs about it, not sure where on the priority list it is rightnow though
 * [13:07:52] <Dashiva> There's already full attribution in the export xml
 * [13:07:56] * FastLizard4 is now known as FastLizard4|busy
 * [13:07:57] * Playsonic2 also makes articles for spanish gaming wikis
 * [13:08:18] <Hunterj> PanSola:Well we have four new major editors, one of which has been editing very regullary untill this week (will be back no doubt), talks of more people being active again, two key beuracrats have been away fro a few weeks, but most people have just become more active
 * [13:08:37] <PanSola> Hunterj: nice
 * [13:08:39] * Playsonic2 (note: All spanish wikis)
 * [13:09:11] <PanSola> Ok, there's this new extension that Wikia is testing right now
 * [13:09:16] <PanSola> SemanticMediaWiki
 * [13:09:23] <Hunterj> PanSola:4 may not sound like a lot but you wouldn't believe how many pages i've made since I've joined, I created the sites 2000th article :) and I remember being in the 800 article count much less then a year ago
 * [13:09:40] <PanSola> Hunterj: congrats
 * [13:09:51] <Hunterj> thanks
 * [13:09:53] <PanSola> it's being tested right now, and if you are interested in testing...
 * [13:09:53] <PanSola> um
 * [13:09:55] <PanSola> hold on
 * [13:10:38] <PanSola> http://www.wikia.com/index.php?title=Forum:Semantic_MediaWiki_update
 * [13:10:47] * Parts: Whitehwk
 * [13:11:30] <PanSola> the extension supposedly helps make relationships between pages easier to manage
 * [13:11:32] <Dashiva> I hear SemMW is supposed to act as a DPL replacement in many respects
 * [13:11:39] <PanSola> in many, yes
 * [13:11:49] <PanSola> I think it's supposed to be easier on the servers
 * [13:11:51] <Dashiva> I just hope it's not contaminated with semantic web silliness
 * [13:12:00] * c is now known as Kirby
 * [13:12:04] <PanSola> " ... is the capital of Is capital of::Germany ...
 * [13:12:15] <PanSola> not sure if that count as contamination in yoru book
 * [13:12:35] yeah,
 * [13:12:41] <Dashiva> Only borderline. As long as there's no reification, it's probably okay :)
 * [13:13:11] <PanSola> so if anyone is interested and wants to play with it
 * [13:13:21] <PanSola> currently there's a test wiki, http://fp007.sjc.wikia-inc.com that has it
 * [13:13:35] <PanSola> edits you do there won't reflect on the real genology wiki, so you can do lots of experiments there
 * [13:13:48] <PanSola> (but please don't vandalize, it distracts other people testing thigns)
 * [13:13:52] * Parts: CBrannan
 * [13:14:17] * Quits: Ose
 * [13:14:40] <PanSola> most of the documentation for it should be on http://www.ontoworld.org/
 * [13:14:50] <PanSola> but when I tried to access that site, it's down )-:
 * [13:14:59] <PanSola> let me know if nayone else has better luck accessing it
 * [13:15:48] <Tesfan> It looks the same as a normal quartz skin for me
 * [13:16:00] <PanSola> well there's no change to teh skin
 * [13:16:27] <PanSola> http://fp007.sjc.wikia-inc.com/wiki/Item3
 * [13:16:42] <PanSola> the "Facts about..." is auto-generated
 * [13:16:48] <Tesfan> ahh
 * [13:17:04] <Tesfan> but it doesn't look anything like the halo test site
 * [13:17:11] <Tesfan> should it?
 * [13:17:19] <PanSola> it shouldn't
 * [13:17:38] <Tesfan> ah, k
 * [13:18:13] <PanSola> I'm trying to get another testing wiki set up that contains gaming content
 * [13:18:24] <PanSola> so we can get a better feel of how to use it
 * [13:18:47] <PanSola> (the way genologies uses it might not be easy for us to find *where* it's being used)
 * [13:19:15] <PanSola> on other topics
 * [13:19:23] <PanSola> http://www.wikia.com/wiki/Gaming
 * [13:19:39] <PanSola> I encourage everyone to find time and write some article for the WIkia Gaming Soapbox
 * [13:20:18] * Joins: Azzt|Hwk
 * [13:20:33] <PanSola> use it to share your experiences, or fun moments
 * [13:20:36] <PanSola> hi Azzt|Hwk
 * [13:20:44] <Playsonic2> only english wikis ?
 * [13:21:05] <PanSola> Playsonic2: for the articles in the hub, I guess you can write about non-English wikis
 * [13:21:15] <PanSola> as long as the language of the article itself remains English
 * [13:23:20] <Playsonic2> I encourage everyone who speaks spanish to find time and write some article for the Spanish Wikia Gaming Soapbox --> http://es.wikia.com/wiki/Juegos
 * [13:23:33] <PanSola> haha
 * [13:24:19] <PanSola> You can see from http://www.wikia.com/index.php?title=Category:Gaming_user_articles
 * [13:24:26] <PanSola> a list of other previous articles
 * [13:25:56] <Azzt|Hwk> ewww spanish :/
 * [13:25:58] <PanSola> so yeah, you can share some good wiki practices, share some interesting news, etc with the other users of gaming wikis
 * [13:26:13] <Hunterj> cool
 * [13:26:16] * Hunterj may edit there
 * [13:26:36] <PanSola> just remember the audience who's gonna read it is going to be from across all gaming wikis
 * [13:26:41] <PanSola> and not just your local wiki
 * [13:27:44] <PanSola> also it's getting close to the time for the next Featured gaming wikia
 * [13:27:53] <PanSola> http://www.wikia.com/wiki/Featured_gaming_Wikia
 * [13:28:02] * Playsonic2 is going to vote
 * [13:28:12] <PanSola> Forgotten Realms right now has the most votes
 * [13:29:00] * AzureDrake is now known as ADafk
 * [13:29:01] <PanSola> feel free to nominate more wikis
 * [13:29:13] <PanSola> and get others to vote for it
 * [13:30:30] <PanSola> anyone has anything else they want to bring up to share or discuss?
 * [13:30:53] * Quits: Tomsen
 * [13:31:26] <PanSola> I guess it's a short one this week then d-:
 * [13:31:30] <Hunterj> can i just put the nomination thing there or do i have to say anything?
 * [13:31:40] <PanSola> Hunterj: it's better if you write something
 * [13:31:42] <Azzt|Hwk> BACKWARDS EMOTICON
 * [13:31:50] <PanSola> Azzt|Hwk: it's right-side-up emoticon
 * [13:31:57] <Azzt|Hwk> 9_9
 * [13:32:12] <Hunterj> PanSola: I don't have to write much do i?
 * [13:32:35] you have to write a 5 page essay for it
 * [13:32:49] <PanSola> Hunterj: no strict requirement. But it's best if you can highlight why the wiki you nominate deserves to be featured
 * [13:33:02] <Hunterj> PanSola:You see SG1's away and he's in charge, he said he'd be trying to go for it but he's not around (I'm talking about SWGames if you hadn't guessed :))
 * [13:33:11] <PanSola> usually the blurb becomes what gets used on the Gaming hub immediately (you can edit it later)
 * [13:33:26] <PanSola> well anyone can revise the blurb too
 * [13:33:40] <PanSola> so you can get it started, then have him revise it
 * [13:33:46] <Hunterj> ok
 * [13:33:49] <PanSola> anyone can nominate any gaming wiki
 * [13:33:56] <Tesfan> PanSola: So is it okay if I revise the blurb at http://www.wikia.com/wiki/Featured_Wikia#RuneScape_Wiki ?
 * [13:33:57] <PanSola> doesn't have to be from the "person in charge"
 * [13:34:01] <PanSola> Tesfan:yes
 * [13:34:05] <Tesfan> 'twas written in mid '06
 * [13:34:08] <Tesfan> okay cool
 * [13:34:17] <PanSola> actually
 * [13:34:25] <PanSola> Tesfan: I was talking about the Featured gaming wiki
 * [13:34:28] <Hunterj> I know it's just that he said he'd go for it, but I don't think he'll be back for a while...
 * [13:34:29] <Tesfan> ohhh
 * [13:34:35] <PanSola> I suppose the general Featured wiki can be revised too
 * [13:34:44] <PanSola> but I'm not the official voice on that one
 * [13:37:50] <Hunterj> Can I use a lack of new editors as a point to promote it? :P
 * [13:38:14] <PanSola> well, that wouldn't look very good would it? d-:
 * [13:38:28] <PanSola> you can say "we want to increase our expansion, and thus need more new editors!"
 * [13:38:48] <Hunterj> oh yes, I wasn't going to say htat, I just didn't want to type it all out here :)
 * [13:38:50] * Kirby is now known as Charitwo
 * [13:38:58] <Hunterj> you can see I've never done this before... :)
 * [13:39:24] <PanSola> hehe
 * [13:39:41] I've got a headache -- seeya later.
 * [13:39:43] * Parts: nq2h
 * [13:43:54] <Hunterj> when is the voting deadline?
 * [13:44:30] <PanSola> Hunterj: there's not a "deadline"
 * [13:44:41] <PanSola> votes are counted when a new Featured gaming wiki goes up
 * [13:44:43] <PanSola> old votes stay
 * [13:44:49] <PanSola> for the future months
 * [13:45:18] <Hunterj> oh
 * [13:45:19] <Hunterj> ok
 * [13:50:55] <Hunterj> PanSola I'm saving the nomination now, can you take a look at it, to chech I haven't messed up
 * [13:51:55] <Hunterj> PanSola:
 * [13:51:56] <Hunterj> ?
 * [13:52:02] <PanSola> looks ok except the last line d-:
 * [13:52:08] * Quits: Hakaisha
 * [13:53:28] <Hunterj> which one?
 * [13:53:52] <Hunterj> * I mean what should I change
 * [13:54:20] <PanSola> dpm
 * [13:54:22] <PanSola> blah
 * [13:54:27] <PanSola> don't start a line with empty spaces
 * [13:54:53] <Hunterj> you mean my signing?
 * [13:54:57] <PanSola> yeah
 * [13:54:58] <Hunterj> that was a mistake
 * [13:55:08] <PanSola> well, yeah I figured it's a mistake
 * [13:55:11] <PanSola> but since you asked d-:
 * [13:55:16] <Hunterj> thanks for telling me
 * [13:55:18] <Hunterj> :)
 * [13:55:18] <PanSola> np
 * [13:55:26] <PanSola> also, you can use interwiki links to get to swgames
 * [13:55:42] <Hunterj> yes but I'm not messing around with that
 * [13:55:44] <PanSola> To visit SWGames, the Star Wars gaming wiki, click here!
 * [13:55:45] <[NewsBot]> PanSola meant: http://www.wikia.com/wiki/w:c:swgames
 * [13:55:57] <Hunterj> you can change it if you want to :)
 * [13:56:08] <PanSola> you should practice it d-:
 * [13:56:13] <PanSola> to be a True Wikian
 * [13:56:28] <PanSola> Wikian
 * [13:56:29] <[NewsBot]> PanSola meant: http://www.wikia.com/wiki/Wikian