Thread:Varg2000/@comment-3367060-20130918034652/@comment-3367060-20130919224620

TurokSwe wrote: Titanollante wrote: TurokSwe wrote: Well, don't get upset, but with all due respect I'm trying not to associate my wiki with Wikizilla. And bye the way, you yourself have copied information from The American Godzilla Wiki and put it in the Godzilla (1998 Board Game) article so then I would wonder why you havent attributed the content yourself? Have a nice day, my friend! (seriously, I mean it) Actually TurokSwe, you are wrong there. That article on Wikizilla was added on September 6th, and even though you have created that article before us again, you were not plagiarised as I did not copy-paste what you put there nor did I lazily reword or add a few sentences. The article was created unplagiarised and it stood that way. The picture in our infobox is not the same as yours as you can clearly see, and you added an infobox and a "Gameplay" section after us, so I am sorry to say you are in the wrong with that statement, and I politely urge you to retract it, as it is not true. Besides, you and I both know that you did not write that article yourself, that was taken from something someone else wrote.

TurokSwe wrote: Well, I'm trying my best at making them into originals. The reason I don't want my wiki to be anywhere near associated with Wikizilla is because of the horrible and hostile behaviours and the kind of content that they allow to include. And just to make things clear, about the licensing, that goes for mr. Titanollante too as he did the same thing. I am sorry TurokSwe, you are lying. We are not hostile at all to anyone, however, a small group is only hostile against you, which is rightfully so due to past conflicts you have had with that group of people that includes Hulkzilla, MrAwesomeness and of Spinozilla, among others. I am doing my very best to not take action against you, my swedish friend. Also, what "kind of content that they allow to include" do you talk about? Could you be talking about the legally proven Zilla Name Change you continue to wrongfully reject? Yes, that must be so, as we have no despicable content on our articles whatsoever.

Also my dear friend, I saw your most recent edits on the two articles we are talking about. Adding one sentence and adding one link does not change the fact that the articles you have there are still plagiarised. The thing is TurokSwe, you cannot change what you have copy-pasted there, because it already is such a perfectly worded and structured article, that you will find it impossible to rephrase and "make them into originals". I suggest you link to Wikizilla and forget our differences or I will take action. Again, I will repeat on the matter of the "Board Game" article: We created the article after you but it was never plagiarsing you as it was never even copy-pasted at all and it was more comprehensible and better set up than the mess that your article was before September 16th. So again, I suggest you attribute to us by the time you are asleep the first day you read this (Thursday afternoon for me, Friday morning for you or something), you cannot stand around and say you will rewrite it, and even then, you will still have plagiarism in your history. Thank you, Emil, and have a good day. So, what you're saying here my dear friend is that you didn't copy and paste this content onto your wiki:

"GODZILLA, "a monstrously fun game of daring, dodging and SQUISHING!", dated 1998 by Milton Bradley. Based on the movie remake from that time, for 2 to 4 players, ages 5 and up. "Godzilla is on the rampage. He's racing around the streets of New York looking for lunch and a quick crunch. Dodge toppling buildings and the Monster's claw to avoid getting squished. Escape the city first with two of your vehicles to win the game. It's a thrilla to play Godzilla!" Game sets up in 3-D with cardboard buildings and uses clay to mold the vehicles that try to avoid getting "squished." Tough to find in new condition, the game wasn't around long back then - I bought this one new and stashed it, pretty much forgotten until now. Contents will include (according to box bottom) gameboard, 8 cans of Squish-It dough (these may need to be replaced with new Play-doh after 12 years, even in a sealed box), Godzilla stomper, claw mold case, 9 cardboard buildings, 12 Squish'em cards, 2 dice, 2 label sheets, instructions. Box measures approximately 18-1/8 x 10-1/8 x 3 inches, shipping weight 4-1/2 pounds."

This is what it says on your wiki (changing a few words and sentences doesn't make it original, so basically this is not acceptable):

""A monstrously fun game of daring, dodging and SQUISHING!Godzilla'' is on the rampage. He's racing around the streets of New York looking for lunch and a quick crunch. Dodge toppling buildings and the Monster's claw to avoid getting squished. Escape the city first with two of your vehicles to win the game. 'It's a thrill to play Godzilla!''"



The game includes a gameboard that sets up in 3-D with cardboard buildings and uses clay to mold the vehicles that try to avoid getting "squished", 8 cans of Squish-It dough, Godzilla stomper, claw mold case, 9 cardboard buildings, 12 Squish'em cards, 2 dice, and 2 label sheets."

And yes, you are very hostile against me, but this still goes to show how you treat people who think differently and what kind of behaviour you allow on the wiki. You need to learn to let go of the past and "let shit go", which I gues you havent so far. The "content" I'm talking about has nothing to do with Zilla or anything Godzilla-related (but of course you can't consider something else than that), I'm talking about the hostile behaviours shown on several places in that "wiki". I would never allow such a childish behaviour on my wiki regardless of who we're talking about. It's a wiki for God's sake, at least it's supposed to be.

Well, like I said, I'm doing my best at making original articles (where of course you have to take information from somewhere, which you always alter when making originals). But calling people liars isn't very professional. And you see, the thing here, Titanollante, is that you still can't escape the fact that you did the same thing (copy paste), so you have plagiarism in your history as well. And some articles aren't that well written yet because I havent taken my time to change it, and I must remind you that several articles on your wiki aren't that well written eaither and the wiki even includes several articles that are completely unecessary and often unrelated to the topic of Godzilla (which appearantly the wiki is supposed to be about, but if it's about kaiju in general then why not make it a kaiju wiki instead of Godzilla?). Anyway, I won't link to Wikizilla unless the childish behaviours there are stopped, maybe by an individual that better suits or deserves the title of an "admin", and I'm not refering to me if you happen to think that. I don't even think that you really have a problem with anyone who copy and paste, but I think you can't get over your anger over me, is that right? Well, in that case, rethink why you're ACTUALLY mad over me and calm down and let shit go. It's a healthy advice, I think you should follow it. Remember that i don't wan't you any harm and anything I've done that has made you upset has been totally without intention. Thank you, and a good day to you too kid! Oh TurokSwe, TurokSwe. This is precisely why so many people do not like you; You lie. You have lied from the day I met you and you are lying right now.

Exactly, I did not copy-paste that into Wikizilla. Have you even looked at that article's history? Obviously you have not because you are making up that I copy-pasted that, and that is sad. That has been rewritten before it was posted, it's not plagiarised and never was. You do not know what the word "plagiarism" means, now do you? Probably not. Besides, you and I both know you did NOT write that content. I can provide a link to the person who originally wrote that if you like. You can't even call plagiarism on me because of something I completely rewrote for the better and something you didn't even write yourself. So, I am sorry TurokSwe. I truly am sorry for you.

Oh, you're simply lying when you say I do not like you for your opinion. Have you not read any replies I have sent to you since we met, or anyone's other replies? We do not hate you because you like your "American Godzilla". We simply despise how you go around on every Zilla video, on every Zilla deviation, even on Wikipedia to shove your opinion that The Zilla Name Change is fake (which is truly an opinion because it has been proven and you have not disproven a single thing). Editing Wikipedia so it spam links to your biased YouTube channels and wikis, inserting your bias and linking to unofficial sources like that blog that proves nothing. That is what everyone despises about you. That is why everyone is blocking you. Not because of your opinion, you need to somehow get that into your brain. If you were a big Zilla fan you'd be welcome everywhere, just look at Zilla fanboys like Tojuniorfilms, he's on Wikizilla, and he really hates the real Godzilla (or at least, hated), but he is still around on Wikizilla.

Why don't you "let shit go"? Why don't you let the "Zilla Name Change Myth" stuff go, accept the name change and just become normal so everyone can forgive you and you can actually be liked? But no. But, you seem to not understand that the Zilla Name Change is real. I really like how you just dismiss that interview as a lie, and how you put words in Matt Frank's mouth. You really don't want to "let [that] shit go", right? Of course you didn't, and that is why no one likes you in the kaiju community. Why no one with an opinion worth listening to likes you, anyway. If you would change for the better, you'd see how everyone would start to be nice towards you.

Just like you don't "have time" for rewriting the stolen articles, I do not have time to rewrite the useless articles on Wikizilla. Why are they there? Because they are linked to a lot and would take ages to remove all links to them, and because they were there when Wikizilla was in its infancy. Feel free to ask someone from the ancient Wikizilla, although I highly doubt you will. If it was possible, I would make that kaiju Wiki URL redirect to Wikizilla. I must adopt that Wiki first, however, and I do not have the time.

I'm afraid I cannot find any childish behaviour on Wikizilla, unless you are talking about the comments about you? I'm sorry, there are just way too many of those, and I do not have the time to go through every article and thread ever and remove all negative mention of you. Besides, I have earned my title of administrator, so you can freely talk to me, as I'm deserving of that title.

Why am I mad at you? Well, because you copy-pasted what I wrote. I would normally ignore you, as I did throught all this summer. You have caused a lot of trouble in the kaiju community, and these problems were very big and time-wasting, such as you vandalising the Wikipedia article on "Zilla (Toho)", starting arguments on Matt Frank's Rulers of Earth #2 deviation, going around insulting Wikizilla on random videos, trying to say the name change is a "myth" (which, ironically, thanks to you was completely proven because of us researching). Also, your efforts to make the "American Godzilla" more loved were not futile, as you made Zilla one of my favorite monsters and you are the sole reason that so many people have made so many friends, as well as the main reason that Wikizilla's article on Zilla is one of the best ever, because you have ignited a passion for Zilla that has not been matched since 1998 and 2004. So, in those respects, I thank you honestly, but in the troubles you have caused, no one can even come close to agreeing with you (by that I mean no Godzilla fan can agree with you, I'm sure you have about two or three friends that you've somehow conviced the name change is fake.

Thank you for             not              cooperating, and fare very well.