Thread:The real cal howard/@comment-32684778-20190602021411

Honestly after these Sonic revisions and Matthew mentioning outliers, I’ve been really reconsidering the legitimacy of tier 2 Sonic. So I went on and looked through all the his tier 2 “feats” and all of them are flawed with the exception of Solaris (lucky bastard).

I’ll go in order in terms of the games.

Firstly the destruction of the both worlds thing, this is something that’s completely paradoxical. It’s not like the emeralds are really doing it with their own power, it’s just the universe reaching to an unbalanced force. For example, in Sonic boom the Eggman from a dimension dimension couldn’t be in the main dimension because the universe would be destroyed. <— it’s not like that makes Eggman universal. Sonic didn’t even reverse the damage himself, everything just automatically went back to normal.

Next we have the Salamander and he has zero feats. Creating an amusement world of unknown size is completely unquantifiable and tier 2 is heavily jumping the gun.

Next is the Egg Wizard. Now this may sound like downplay but it never harnessed the full power of the Power of The Stars. Eggman didn’t just say that the PoTS were stronger, he said the readings were off the charts, implying that the readings were far higher than the chaos emeralds. He also stated that he never even imagined power like that even existed. I mean really think about this, Eggman is someone who’s studied and hunted down the emeralds for years. Of all people why would Eggman be wrong about the emeralds? The actual downgrades comes from the Egg Wizard’s final and strongest attack that was gonna destroy the planet. You could tell it’s stronger than any normal attack because it actually had to charge up the Planet Buster Laser longer than any other normal attack that Sonic and Blaze deflected. It would also explain why Sonic and Blaze destroyed it so easily.

Lastly the Time Eater. On his profile it says his attack potency is universal+ for destroying the space time continuum... no links to scans, no elaboration, I guess he just did it because it says so. In all seriousness, this is completely false. In the first cutscene he teleports the characters to the events he removed then he does the same to the present. If the past events were already erased then why is the present still intact? What really happened was, the Time Eater went to different locations in the past and removed them from the universe, turning them into pocket dimensions that are located in the white space. In the Shadow boss fight there are multiple stars shown in the sky, meaning that point in time is MSS level.

So with what I said my proposal is to make all super form level characters 4-A. They’ll scale to the super forms who are 4-A for being superior to the Final Egg Blaster, Time Eater, and for being stated to destroy or pierce stars IIRC. So with these downgrades all the super tiers would be one level consistently, causing less problems in scaling, and turning Solaris into an outlier again. Honestly let’s be real it’s never even stated that the chaos emeralds vary, honestly I think this variable nonsense is just to excuse outliers.

But anyway, with 4-A being consistent, with the only exception being 1 maybe 2 feats, Solaris could be an outlier again. 