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Please add new messages to the bottom, thanks :) -- sannse (talk)

More Scientology
This advertisement is linked to some English language pages of The Aliens of the Flaming Red Sun. I have no big problem with the Scientology Freezone, I believe all Scientology type auditing is unwise but the freezone does so much good getting people away from the abusive Church of Scientology that I don’t fight them and I believe that on balance the Freezone probably does more good than harm. I simply thought I’d point out that the text is in German and users need to click a second time to get to an English text. Proxima Centauri 04:47, August 12, 2010 (UTC)

Help Request
Hello, I am the creator of the new "Together Wiki". I am confused. Am I an admin on my wikia? THE GIANT! 14:05, July 25, 2010 (UTC)


 * Yes, you are always admin on a wiki you create. You didn't give an email address when you signed up, so you won't get the usual messages about your wiki and edits on it - you might want to fix that :) -- sannse (help forum | blog) 16:26, July 27, 2010 (UTC)

Please Respond
Could you help me with my request please? THE GIANT! 14:15, July 25, 2010 (UTC)


 * This page is often a slow place to get help I'm afraid, I'm not always around (I've been away for the last three days) and when I am I have to look at other stuff first :) The best place for general advice is [Forum:Community_Central_Forum|the Community forum]]. Or, if you specifically need help from staff, then you can reach us best via the contact form. Good luck with your wiki -- sannse (help forum | blog) 16:31, July 27, 2010 (UTC)

Help
Hi Sannse! Srry, if my english is not so good... I got a question: How can i change the image above left who links to the startpage of my wiki? (PS: You can speak also german, french and luxemburgish with me) Ty, SirJacqueline 18:03, July 26, 2010 (UTC)


 * You can easily change that via uploading a new one to File:Wiki.png :) -- 18:04, July 26, 2010 (UTC)
 * ?? Don't works! SirJacqueline 18:46, July 26, 2010 (UTC)
 * Your logo is bigger than the alloted size, you need to adjust the resolution to match the specified dimensions. -- 18:48, July 26, 2010 (UTC)
 * TY, it works now :) SirJacqueline 19:01, July 26, 2010 (UTC)

Right...
...just one last thing: can I see any kind of evidence that Wikia bought Uncyclopedia.org legally (a contract/official letter or something)? CartoonistHenning 22:42, July 26, 2010 (UTC)


 * Of course it was bought legally. This really is getting silly... time to move on now. Thanks. -- sannse (help forum | blog) 16:43, July 27, 2010 (UTC)
 * Send me an evidence. It doesn't matter how you send it | CartoonistHenning 18:27, July 27, 2010 (UTC)
 * I'm waiting... If you cannot proove it, UnMeta won't acknowledge Uncyclopedia and all other Wikia wikis anylonger and then we also have the right to copy the content back. I'm not the only one who's waiting | CartoonistHenning 11:49, August 20, 2010 (UTC)
 * Oh, come on. This is ridiculous, btw - you always have the right to move the content, due to the license of the content. -- Random Time  11:55, August 20, 2010 (UTC)

vstf
I would like to serve as vstf--用戶 16:33, July 27, 2010 (UTC)
 * Hi, I'm not currently adding people to the VSTF, but you are welcome to get involved by looking for vandalism and reporting it to the VSTF. One of the current members can help you with the right places to let them know of problems :) -- sannse (help forum | blog) 16:47, July 27, 2010 (UTC)
 * About vstf... Could you please take a look. I can't edit 'HTTP' article on my wiki. (I've reported this on vstf:Spam filter problems in 8 July, but this bug still exists) 05:55, July 30, 2010 (UTC)

hey sannsaI have to ask you smething here i go how do u get to the club penguin wikia

Cheyenne Jones 16:52, July 27, 2010 (UTC)Cheyenne5915

Dear Sannse
Hi, It's RaymondAK-47 from the Hebrew Uncyclopedia again, things have been very calm in the past year, no riots or fights, just writing articles and reorganizing the wiki, which is why I haven't bothered you for a long time. however, we now have a technical problem in our log-in page, which prevents from new (or at the very least, newer) users from logging in. one of our admins have tried fixing the problem to no result. you can see the page here. If you press "Tab" a few times it helps a bit. I would also like to know if there is a technical support page I'm not aware of, so I won't have to bother you in the future. thank you, 79.176.9.125 09:39, July 28, 2010 (UTC)


 * Hi, I've asked someone to look at the problem and put in a bug ticket. In the mean time, you can log in on this wiki and you will stay logged in when you go back to the Hebrew Uncyclopedia.
 * The best way to get staff help for technical issues is my mailing us via Special:Contact. Or if you just need advice from other Wikians, then try the Community forums for help. There's a lot of good people helping out there. Hopefully someone will be able to look at the log in problem soon -- sannse (help forum | blog) 00:24, July 30, 2010 (UTC)
 * Thank you so much. 10:27, August 18, 2010 (UTC)

Whats up? Check out my Car wiki page and write me some ideas for it Connorm

Another Wiki
Hi i edit a wiki that a couple people go to and their is another wiki about the same thing and a few more people go to that one. I would edit the other one but mine has a lot more pages and information. Which one should i edit?HazeShot 23:36, August 1, 2010 (UTC)
 * I'm not Sannse, but you can always merge the content from "your" wiki into the other one, and then edit there. To do this, contact an administrator of the other wiki and request that they go to Special:Export on "your" wiki and export all of the pages from there, and then go to the other wiki an import the pages via Special:Import. After that is done, you can Special:Contact on your wiki and request that it be redirected to the other. 23:39, August 1, 2010 (UTC)

Having rights in Munkapedia
Hi i got a vandal named Brandon Rhea, hes not granting me those rights in Munkapedia so would you mind granting me the rights in the wiki and revoke Brandon Rhea's rights and block him across wikia so i can continue on please.--Hand lovers Crazy Hand 21:23, August 3, 2010 (UTC)


 * I think it best that you stick to the wiki you are working on already. -- sannse (help forum | blog) 15:49, August 4, 2010 (UTC)

Mass Vandalism By Administrator
Hello, I have run into a problem while managing my Wikia. An user of Patapon Wiki was given the rights of a administrator by someone who I don't know the identity of, and this "administrator" deleted the front page, and locked the DATABASE of the Wikia. I need help on reversing his damage, and I have already blocked this user. Send help ASAP. Thank you.
 * Hi, I see Uberfuzzy has helped out with this already -- sannse (help forum | blog) 18:56, August 6, 2010 (UTC)

Logo
Yumipon 02:15, August 5, 2010 (UTC)

Hello, how do I add a logo onto a wiki?
 * Hi, see Help:Logo for info on this :) -- sannse (help forum | blog) 18:56, August 6, 2010 (UTC)

E-mails
I have a problem that I need to have traced. I've stopped receiving e-mails for changes to watched/followed pages about 2 months ago. I've sent 3 e-mails through http://contact.wikia.com/ over the last 2 weeks and haven't gotten a response from that either. I fear that I never received the response e-mails. Nothing has changed on my end with my e-mail settings.

I've changed my e-mail settings to three different e-mail accounts with two different hosts and the same result. Claims to send a acknowledgment e-mail and it is never received on my end. The last Special:Contact I sent, I asked for a response on my talk page on the wikia I frequent, but I have not yet received one there either. Please respond with any course of action you wish me to make on my talk page if you can rather than here as it will be seen much quicker (since I don't receive changed pages e-mails anymore). If nothing else, drop a line there letting me know you replied here. Thank you for your time. Rappy 23:54, August 6, 2010 (UTC)


 * Answered on User talk:Rappy

Logo
Hi I have a question at Avatar Wiki they have a banner thing for a logo. How can I get one for my wiki.HazeShot 23:44, August 11, 2010 (UTC)


 * Hi, the best people to help with this are those on the forums. They should be able to help you :) -- sannse (help forum | blog) 16:17, August 12, 2010 (UTC)

Liberapedia
Another administrator, Elassint feels it would be good to allow posts from users who are not logged in, see here and I have no objection. Proxima Centauri 19:06, August 12, 2010 (UTC)


 * Hi, I've made the change. It's usually best to ask for this sort of thing via Special:Contact, but I happened to be around just then :) -- sannse (help forum | blog) 22:52, August 12, 2010 (UTC)

A woman upset
I edit at Bully Wiki, and I have a blog there that i've worked really hard on. And 2 of the bearucrats and 1 of the editors keeps commenting on my blog, and they don't even comment about my blog they just use my blog's comments as if it was a chatroom. It really hurts my feelings and they know that it makes me upset. If i yell at them to stop I'll be banned If I don't they'll keep using it as a chatroom. Please tell them to stop. I don't want to turn off comments but all i can do is hide their comments and that doesn't help.

I just don't know what to do. KSR 14:24, August 14, 2010 (UTC)Karensarahrocks
 * Wikia's Terms of Use provide this:
 * User Conduct
 * You agree not to use the Service to:

* Harass members of the Service;
 * I've never seen that enforced, though. Maybe you'll have better luck this time. -- ◄mendel► 17:16, August 14, 2010 (UTC)
 * Harassment is often in the eye of the beholder. In this case, I see people being annoying and rather childish, but that's not harassment. I can certainly understand your irritation, KSR, but this is something that you and the others on your wiki will need to work out between you. -- sannse (help forum | blog) 20:59, August 17, 2010 (UTC)

Ad Free
Hello, I was wondering if Wikia is still offering ad-free oppertunitys for the smaller wikis. -Imdill3 17:49, August 17, 2010 (UTC)


 * Hi, yes we still have that available. There is a page about it here -- sannse (help forum | blog) 21:00, August 17, 2010 (UTC)

Help at Ponyo Wiki?
Have you seen the movie? Can you please help with cleanup, images, etc? Please respond with your answer. Love, Ponyo Fan 19:23, August 17, 2010 (UTC)


 * Sorry, I don't know anything about the movie... I tend to call in to many wikis as staff, but am not currently involved in editing any :) -- sannse (help forum | blog) 21:01, August 17, 2010 (UTC)

Why?
Why can't you make your wiki's default skin monobook?  The thing  Talk 01:19, August 18, 2010 (UTC)

New Wiki Style
Comment moved to blog


 * Hi, we have seen this on the blog comments. We are reading everything there very carefully, so you don't need to write here too - we won't miss anything! -- sannse (help forum | blog) 17:30, August 18, 2010 (UTC)


 * I moved my comment to the blog to unclutter your talk pageThat better? Volatile Dweevil (talk)

Block
I am not an admin on the Bakugan Two Wiki but can you block Weirdo Guy as he wants to block User:Drago44 as his username is similar to mine and Weirdo Guy wants him to create a different username ONLY because he gets us confused!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

And look at the eighth rule!!! I blocked him on the Bakugan Wiki because I couldn't block him on his wiki. Drago99 Boom,Boom,Boom. Bad guys dead, you happy?? 01:16, August 19, 2010 (UTC)


 * Hi, you'll need to sort this out on the wiki itself, with the active admins there. Sorry -- sannse (help forum | blog) 23:30, August 19, 2010 (UTC)

Blog comment flood
Two low resolution screenshots and a very unhelpful FAQ are not my idea of being communicative. However, I've decided to take a break from Community Wikia for an extended period, so you won't see my comments or much of anything for probably 3 months or more. Doing Wikia support for free just isn't fulfilling enough. I'm also taking a break from w:c:logocreation since all the logos I would have made would end up being unusable with the new skin.

I hope the community doesn't rip you guys apart like happened with the Monaco transition. I just don't get the sense your company has learned much from that experience.

P.S. You have a double standard. Was Alison22000's comment to me acceptable? I didn't see anything on her talk page.

-- Fandyllic  (talk &middot; contr) 9:46 PM PST 18 Aug 2010


 * The difference is that you, Fandyllic, are an experienced admin and editor who has over 1000 edits here and should know better. -- ◄mendel► 08:44, August 19, 2010 (UTC)


 * Not according to the ethos that admins and experienced editors should be treated no differently from newer, unexperienced editors. Also you are making an assumption about Allison22000. Maybe she is just active on wikis you never visit.
 * Besides, being an experienced admin has not really gotten me anywhere on Wikia. Disrespect seems to be the currency of the day. -- Fandyllic  (talk &middot; contr) 5:59 PM PST 19 Aug 2010
 * I checked Special:EditCount/Alison22000. My ethos: to a user who doesn't know the rules, I explain them; if it's a new user, I take care to not scare them away.
 * I feel with you on your second point, but dishing back disrespect in turn doesn't seem like a solution to me. -- ◄mendel► 08:16, August 20, 2010 (UTC)

Don't disregard common sense: IF IT'S NOT BROKEN, DON'T FIX IT
Letting people keep Monaco as a personal choice?! For a LIMITED time?! Wikia, don't force this skin on us. Listen to the Masses, the majority hate it, and a lot of people will have to rewrite their wiki's monaco-oriented code.

Even now, there are already threats to walk.

Do you want this to happen? Google has been shoving new "upgrades" down the YouTube users' throats for months. We'd walk there, too, but there's nowhere to walk, thanks to their monopoly.

Don't be a Google. Care for your customers, listen to them, and never force them to change unless they all want it. Don't do it, Wikia, don't let money and staying with the times blind you to the demands of your customers.

MAKE IT OPTIONAL OR YOU WILL REGRET IT.

-- † TurtleShroom™! Jesus Loves You and Died for You!! † :) :) 22:01, August 19, 2010 (UTC)


 * Wow, chill. I know there are many people who dislike the new skin, including me, but messages like this won't fix the case. We just have to wait until the beta testers are selected, and then we will be able to judge. -- ( (  (  (  Matias   )  )  )  )  ~  Talk  AVATAR Wiki 22:22, August 19, 2010 (UTC)
 * That Beta testing will be starting very soon :) and in the mean time, we are reading every single comment on the blog and making sure that all staff involved in this project are aware of what's being said. Weare really looking forward to the Beta testers feedback too. -- sannse (help forum | blog) 23:33, August 19, 2010 (UTC)

Make Users Admins
Hey i'm an admin on this Wiki and i was wondering how do i make other users admins.HazeShot 07:03, August 20, 2010 (UTC)


 * If "this wiki" is the Viewtiful Joe Wiki, you are a bureaucrat there now, and can use the page Special:UserRights on that wiki to appoint admins. Have a look at Special:SpecialPages, you should see few pages that weren't there before. -- ◄mendel► 08:10, August 20, 2010 (UTC)

The New Wiki Layout Questions
Once the new Wiki layout debuts, does that mean every single wiki will have to change their layout or keep the old ones, if chose to? And will this effect the infoboxes as well (i have trouble with them now) since i work hard on them? If we have to change to the new style can we choose to change it back to the original or no? Thank you. --KiumaruHamachi 15:20, August 20, 2010 (UTC)KiumaruHamachi


 * Yes, this will be the default layout for all wikis on Wikia. It won't affect infoboxes, those will look just the same, and still be on the left of the content area. Please see the FAQ for more details (it should be updated later today) -- sannse (help forum | blog) 21:20, August 23, 2010 (UTC)
 * On every wiki I've seen, infoboxes were on the right of the content area, opposite the sidebar. With the new layout, they can't be both. -- ◄mendel► 21:32, August 23, 2010 (UTC)

Your Blog and the Feedback
Hello Sannse, I thought I should notify you of the large amount of negative feedback on your blog, in case you were not paying attention to it. Despite these Users not being beta testers (which something tells me they won't be, with their negative stance on it), their opinions should be heard, and the general opinion is that it should not be implemented period, should be saved for a later day, or should be strictly optional for wikis. While I may be only one User, I strongly suggest you and the rest of the Wikia Staff who are working on this, read and pay attention to the feedback on this, or Wikia is sure to lose a great many valuable and well-contributing Users, and quite possibly even a few wikis. Surely that is not worth trying to gain the attention of Unregistered Contributors and attempt to get them to create accounts. I truly think you and the other Staff should listen to what's being said, rather than deciding for yourselves what's best, or only listening to the positive feedback.--Kagi mizu -Seeya 'round 20:36, August 20, 2010 (UTC)
 * Of course we are following the blog comments - Sarah and I have both replied there serveral times too. We are listening to all comments, and in the process of updating the FAQ with more questions and answers. Please keep watching the blog for more replies -- sannse (help forum | blog) 21:36, August 23, 2010 (UTC)


 * In response to the above posted by "Kagi mizu -Seeya 'round ".

So are you telling me that those who already enjoy the new layout will be the only ones allowed to be beta testers? This means that any feedback you get on the 80 selected users is going to be largely swayed towards the positive, which would clearly be an unbalanced view, and only be listening to positive feedback which is in the overwhelming minority.

Furthermore Sansse, I would like to know if the negative feedback is being taken on board or not? Please hear me out. As a Lostpedian, I started life on there as an independant wiki site, free of Wikia's rules. Against our wishes we were moved to wikia, where we are constantly being forced to deal with formats that we do not like. It would be good if each Wiki had a choice to use the old style formatting or the new one, depending on its users needs.

A huge amount of Lospedia is our blog section. I am well aware than many admins are opposed to the blogs, and I am not sure which camp you are in. But regardless, don't you think a community has the right to keep it's blogs if they want them? We feel our blogs are being destroyed and nothing is being done about it. And if something is being done, then all I am asking for is a short one line response that our voice is being heard. Sometimes, we feel ignored at Lostpedia when we recieve no response.

Forgive me if I am wrong, and feel free to correct me, but I feel as if the majority isn't being listened to. I feel largely ignored. I feel that the staff are trying to implement what they want without listening to most of the feedback. Each wiki is unique, and these changes just aren't suited to some wiki's.

I hope you find the time to reply when you have the chance to. Finally, I plead with you that you response isn't simply "Look out on the blogs over the coming weeks - thanks" Because these blogs don't seem to be adressing the issue of other blogs, which is the question in hand! Thanks for your time. DaemonRising 23:17, August 20, 2010 (UTC)


 * We definitely want people with all views in the Beta program. Those who don't like the idea of change give their own valuable perspective to the testing that we need.


 * On the problems you are seeing with the blogs - there have been some updates this week, which aren't connected with the new look at all. This is a separate change, which is why I asked on the blog comments for people to send us details of any problems via Special:Contact


 * And on listening: we are reading every single comment, and listening to all of them. We don't have all the answers yet, and it's impossible to respond to every comment, but we hear them all - I promise you that. -- sannse (help forum | blog) 21:36, August 23, 2010 (UTC)

New badges
New badges on the Diary of a Wimpy Kid Wiki without any consolation with the head admin? I'm appalled by this and I'm not sure who actually installed the badges in are wiki. Is this something from the main staff? --Archie 02:29, August 21, 2010 (UTC)


 * Hi, this was requested by two of the wikis bureaucrats. Sounds like you need to have a discussion on the wiki... -- sannse (help forum | blog) 21:47, August 23, 2010 (UTC)

comment
Please look at my comment on the "Your First Look At The New Wikia" blog, when you get the chance. It's a pretty important request.

- YoshiEgg


 * Hi, we've been looking at all comments, we'll be updating again soon -- sannse (help forum | blog) 21:58, August 23, 2010 (UTC)

Administrator problem
Hello Sannse,

I am Dragonian King, an administrator of the Club Penguin Shops Wiki.

We are having problems with one of our administrators, Zacknjess, however he is a bureaucrat so we aren't able to demote him.

Could you please come to the CPSW and demote him?

Thanks,

-- Sonic The Hedgehog  Talk Sonic's Mall 16:31, August 22, 2010 (UTC)


 * Hi, I have to ask you to send this in via Special:Contact please. We probably won't demote anyone without agreement from others on the wiki though -- sannse (help forum | blog) 22:00, August 23, 2010 (UTC)

Wikia changing
I think it's because of you and the staff changing the features of wikia, but since yesterday I tried to make 4 new Wikias, but all of them failed on certain steps on the 'Get Started' bit. I made Lego Wiki, edited a page but it wouldn't let me save. Thx :)


 * Hi, it sounds like there were problems with the database yesterday... the guys are working on it now, so everything should be back to normal soon. Sorry for the problems! -- sannse (help forum | blog) 22:02, August 23, 2010 (UTC)
 * Ok, Thanx ;)

Spam filter problem
I can't edit this article. Even blanking gives a spam filter error. 09:10, August 23, 2010 (UTC)
 * Hi, I've removed a title block that was affecting this. You should be fine now -- sannse (help forum | blog) 22:07, August 23, 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks. And word " Новейший " also triggers a spam filter. It's a normal word in Russian, it means "newest", it's used in five pages. 17:47, August 28, 2010 (UTC)

Category interesting things
When the mile was changed by Queen Elizabeth 1 in 1595 from the old Roman Mile Passus, defined as 5000 pes composed of 8 stadiums of 625 pes, each measuring 185 m, which was itself based on the Greek Mia Chilloi of 4800 pous composed of 8 stafions each 600 pous, each measuring 185 m; to be 8 furlongs of 660 feet or a mile of 5280 feet which was itself based on an earlier Egyptian standard mentioned by Herodotus,.it meant that there would now be twice as many seconds in a century as inches in the circumference of the earth at the equator.69.39.110.136 16:26, August 23, 2010 (UTC)


 * Ummm... thanks? -- sannse (help forum | blog) 22:10, August 23, 2010 (UTC)

$20/month?
$20/month for ad-free Wiki? That is extremely expensive. I'd pay $5. Kingturtle 19:42, August 23, 2010 (UTC)


 * But it is realistic :) I know it's not for everyone though -- sannse (help forum | blog) 22:11, August 23, 2010 (UTC)

creater
Are you the creater of wikia 22:55, August 23, 2010 (UTC)


 * About Wikia -- 23:00, August 23, 2010 (UTC)

Hello.
Hi, I'm the creator of Together Wiki. Could you please help put badges there? Thanks, <font face="Verdana" color="Gray">5tee1-O4teen| <font face="Verdana" color="Dark Blue">Joking!| <font face="Verdana" color="Black">GASP!!! 19:38, August 24, 2010 (UTC) http://together.wikia.com


 * Hi, do you mean the achievements? If so, then please can you use Special:Contact and someone can turn them on for you :) -- sannse (help forum | blog) 23:19, August 27, 2010 (UTC)

Question about new Wikia format
Will we still have Wikia Spotlights when Wikia converts to the new design? <font face="Arial"> ZEM  talk to me!   00:09, August 28, 2010 (UTC)

Can you make me a favicon that is this picture? Please thanks! I LOVE SCOTT PILGRIM!!!!!!!!!!!!     01:02, August 28, 2010 (UTC)

Bots
Hi I would like to have a bot for myself but I dont know much about them and how to get them...Can you help me? - MCharshy Talkative are ye?  See edit count 12:30, August 28, 2010 (UTC)

Lostpedia
No one on lostpedia likes this new layout. We are all against it and we have made it very clear to each other that we don't like it, and we don't want it. If you change lostpedia, many people have threatened to leave because it will be terrible. So, I'm asking you if there is some way that you can like, not changed the way lostpedia looks, and perhaps keep it the same? Please, no one on lostpedia likes it, and we don't want to see a good wikia go down the drain because of a stupid layout.

-- Julietfan2626 15:43, August 28, 2010 (UTC)

New format Logo
Do you have the pixel dimensions for the new logo? -ScotlandTheBest 17:53 28 August 2010

New Wikia
Firstly i want to say (you've probably been getting alot of this) i like wikia the way it is. secondly i just wanted to ask, will this change the way editing pages works, because i worked very hard and for many hours to get used to it, i dont want to put in so much time again (i also dont have much time anymore) im sorry i dont want to be annoying (i just cant help it) -- <font color="Orange">(Have something to say?) 01:38, August 29, 2010 (UTC)

New Wikia proposal looks terrible.
It just does. The style just completely obliterates that special feeling the current Wikia has. Just look at the comments section. They all state their displeasure at the new design. The main article section just looks unprofessional as well. Keep the current style. Thesaurus Rex 03:06, August 29, 2010 (UTC)

I wanna try it out
Hi Sannse! My wikia, www.Thesa.wikia.com, is still farely new, and I just wonder if there is any chance for me trying out this new layout (I hated it at first, but after stairing at it some time it looks kindoff modern, and I think I can get used to it!) while my wiki is unknown and I got the chance to try and fail at making my new design wich will fit the new wikialayout.... What I am saying is, is there any possibility for me to be an Beta-tester for the new layout? :) Marken4 13:02, August 29, 2010 (UTC)
 * I think that applications for beta testers are over now. If not though, there is a blog here about becoming a beta tester. ☆ The   Solar   Dragon  ☆ 13:21, August 29, 2010 (UTC)

IRC Cloak
Dear Sannse,

I would like an IRC Cloak, as I registered for an IRC account and verified the e-mail address. I requested one on the appropiate page. Please verify it or if you have to go on IRC I am usually on #Wikia on weekdays from 10am until 6pm GMT.

Thanks.

From, -- Iamred1  Talk! 16:14, August 30, 2010 (UTC)