Thread:KevinVolkov/@comment-25583733-20190803163703/@comment-25583733-20190822030413

I fully agree with you on multiple points. This system is not welcoming towards criticism at all. Even though it's claimed that staff do pass on criticism, they tend to protect their own people who are extremely supportive of their plans more than anything.

For example, you rarely ever see any CC staff getting demoted for misbehavior, no matter how many concerns there are about them. I've seen a VSTF member telling everyone an anon's user account, which can be seen as doxxing, just because they were critical of staff. I've seen threads that were closed for "too much arguing" and they all tended to be feedback threads.

I remember there being this large criticism thread about how moderators moderated chat. CC staff wanted to close it before any drama even occurred while ignoring the fact that a former admin made baseless accusations (implying that most of us were only complained because we misbehaved and were warned, even though most of us had no record of even being warned...). Finally, another problem I've had is that whenever you disagree with how something is done or dislike how a staff member is behaving, most of the time you'll be told to "Special:Contact it to Staff." That doesn't seem so bad, except I have suspicions that it's just to push us to a higher level that doesn't have so much time to deal with these smaller-scale problems or will side with CC staff. It's like they're pushing us for failure, but escaping blame because staff are the ones to reject us.

As for the examples you provided, it's almost borderline to the ridiculous double-speak you see in Orwell's 1984. If you want to know doing something is allowed or not, you check the rules pages, except you can't because the rules pages hardly covers most of the rule violations. So then you ask an admin, who might flat out ignore your message (seen this happening a lot) or get upset with you for asking because other people asked. So you can't check the rules page, you can't ask, and the only way to find out is to search through rule breakers' message walls for warnings?

Perhaps people wouldn't have to ask if the rules pages weren't so vague and they didn't want to be searching for a long time when it's easier just to ask a staff member.

I could go on about this for a long time, but I fear that sooner or later someone will jump into this thread in an aggressive manner.

Do you use Discord or Skype by any chance?