Forum:Monaco

MONOBOOK!
On behalf of the Official Club Penguin Wiki (CPW): Your Monaco skin is making everything on the CPW really difficult to load. The skin as an eternal default was passed without the general community's support, and includes advertising that benefits your company only. It was rather selfish to forbid Monobook from being a default skin. To make matters worse, Monaco uses an entirely different set of MediaWiki code to program its sidebar, links, and related wikis. "It is a memory hogging beast", as the Microsoft term goes, and I myself have had to restart my computer when it loads and I am not logged in. It only loads like Monobook on a Windows Vista Ethernet connetion, Wireless, Windows XP, and Windows ME all suffer because of your selfishness.

Uploads have been difficult and the CPW user statistics have reached a plateau.

As a religious man, I have trouble expressing my dislike for this skin, so I'm keeping it clean, and telling it like it is: "Monaco is a burdensome skin that can not be overridden. It consistently slows down all Non-Vista and any WI-FI computer and has put more burden upon the small wikis while lining the pockets of big business with heavy, hard to load SWF Flash advertisements. Monaco's only benefits to an actual Wikia comes with massive wikis like that Muppet wiki you showed on the official release statement. I've been working on Wikia for almost a year or two, and I am very annoyed. Though I'm not quitting, some of us are less patient, and they are going to vote with their feet. You do know there's a REASON Wikipedia uses Monobook, right? Wikis are for the people, by the people, built to serve as an educational and fun database that anyone can edit. Your Monaco skin has prevented some less fortunate users to even log in, much less edit. Your greed is holding you back, and someday your Monaco will come back to haunt you. Frankly, it's just stupid. I think that we, the Wikia Users, should have a choice on their default skin."

Problem proof : #1 HERE!! Here is proof #1. Although it was resolved, users have told me on my talk page over at the CPW about how hard the Wiki is to load.

I myself have experienced severe slowness when not on a Windows Vista. My Windows XP is poky, and my Windows ME is like dial-up. Yet I use a BellSouth Ultra High-Speed 100+mbps DSL connection with a CAT-5 cable, one of the fastest of its kind.

HERE!! This is proof #2. Some people have had image uploading times of over 20 minutes because of the graphic-laden Monaco.

I hope you reconsider your selfish greed, Jesus Loves You and Died for You!! :) Speak to the Webmaster! I command you! 19:56, 29 September 2008 (UTC)


 * You seriously need to chill. MarioGalaxy2433g5  10+ { talk /contribs/Logs} 21:48, 29 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Also Wikimedia runs on donations, wikia runs on money from ads. They disabled the ads for those who log in, isn't that enough? MarioGalaxy2433g5  10+ { talk /contribs/Logs} 21:53, 29 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Ok, lets get some facts straight before this gets out of hand.
 * a) the problem with the club penguin wiki's main page not loading the other day had nothing to do with monaco, it was a different technical problem that was preventing that 1 page from loading.
 * b) as for the images not loading this also has little to do with monaco (though, yes, there are more images in monaco). there have been some hardware related failures on the machines that host the images (which are separate from the wikipage database machines) recently that caused most images to NOT load everyone, on every skin, on every wiki.
 * c) the slow loading of images for some users is also very likely not something in wikia's control. Wikia uses something called a CDN for distributing its images all over the world to speed loading up. if the node of the cdn nearest to you just happens to be slow/hammered/failing, there nothing that wikia can do about that. this also makes problems harder to track down because not everyone can see the same load speed problems.
 * if you would like to continue to discuss anything other then the above issues, and in a civilized manner, please continue to do so. --Uberfuzzy 23:38, 29 September 2008 (UTC)

I edit the Club Penguin Wiki and it isn't to do with Monaco, I'm pretty sure. Also, I've been using Monaco since May and i haven't had any problems. I feel Monaco is more suited to Wikia that Monobook, and Wikipedia is more suited to Monobook (even though Monaco doesnt exist on the Wikipedia. --YOWUZA TALK 2 ME! 17:48, 30 September 2008 (UTC)