Board Thread:Technical Updates/@comment-24006128-20200813184033/@comment-31984232-20200813230419

EDIT: started typing this an hour ago so didn't see most of the messages, I (and my wiki staff as a whole) personally agree with ^ (not wanting to change to UCP) but know it's not possible

Does anyone know if there is there any reason why on UCP wikis source editor is now like visual editor, not to mention that classic editor does nothing different than visual editor? (If so, please tell me. Is it to "unify the editing experience into one (visual) editor" where you only get to choose your default editor rather than your editing experience? It seems to take longer to load and... has a bunch of things that are in the visual editor that experienced source editors don't need, so (to me) forcing people to have to take the time to load them in is just a waste of loading time and user's time.

Other issues I have besides it now forces visual editor aspects upon me weather I want them or not (hint: I don't want them and have no way to disable them) include: (not bring up that any of my editing/other scripts aren't working because I know that it will get fixed/they will be updated accordingly)
 * 1) the E hotkey to edit pages that I use seems to be broken, forcing me to go click the edit button rather than stay mostly on the keyboard as I tend to.
 * 2) since I normally don't edit in fullscreen, but full width and reduced height (as I have the fandom window and then other reference windows in the background at full height and most of the width with a side-bar for me to click back to the fandom window), cramming everything vertically in layers with no setting to swap to horizontal/columns reduces the area of actual text editor I have to 9-19 lines compared to 24-34 lines fullscreened (depending on if the huge top bar has popped off of scrolling or not - which also has it end up hidden if it hasn't yet popped off of scrolling up and I scroll down to a specific spot even if I have fullscreened rendering it obsolete in that position)
 * 3) preview, show changes, etc. are in a really inconvenient spot for me, because it's on the complete opposite end of the screen if I change even chrome tabs with the mouse, as well as due to me using a reduced height window that works best with vertical sections compared to a reduced width window that works best with horizontal layouts.
 * 4) Some of the popups (like if you click on the add a link button for the first time, or click the add an image/gallery in general) don't disappear when you click outside of them so you have to navigate your cursor to the cancel button rather than just clicking anywhere outside the box, and with the link one in my particular window size, I had to scroll down to actually press the "ok got it" button.
 * 5) Rather than let me type down on the bottom section of my screen, it forces me to scroll so it's centered (unless at the very bottom of the page). It's nice and all, but at that point in time I would be looking at it down there so it would move out of my focus and/or I would be using something in the text above it as a reference text so it scrolls that out of my screen.

Haven't really tested I sincerely hope it doesn't tamper with spacing when copy-pasting like discussions and the new message walls do... because for long discussions posts (announcements on wikis in particular), I'd start typing, get annoyed with the editor, copy-paste the text to source editor on a page to do the rest of the typing while maintaining the format that it changed to when I pasted it, copy it all again, and paste it back on discussions, and have all the spacing get ruined so I'd have to go fix that again (further frustrating me with the editor), and have all the links have popup things, that when I go and delete them (because there isn't a setting to just have them not pop up), they leave an unwanted line break (even further frustrating me with the discussions editor).

Also hope it discussions/new message walls get updated to not auto-caps at the front of lines (or get a setting to disable that), because there's 3 possible situations that occur when typing for me:
 * 1) Want a capital letter at the front of the line - I press shift so the auto-caps does not help or hurt me
 * 2) Don't care about a capital letter at the front of the line - I don't press shift, but the auto-caps does not help or hurt me
 * 3) Want a lower-case letter at the front of the line - like doing a formula and using camel case (with things like "dmg" and "maxSpread" and such) - hurts me because it forces a capital so like saying things like "dmg*(1-armorProtection)" would result in "Dmg*(1-armorProtection)" which just looks awful and inconsistant (and I would use as a simple one-line reply to "hey, how does armor protection reduce damage"), forcing me to go in and type the D, type another d, go back to the first D and delete it, go back to the end of the message, and move on. And in larger messages, I tend to give formulas their own lines anyways so...