Thread:PrimalTheGreat3021/@comment-22439-20161015180517/@comment-27755841-20161024043036

I understand what you're getting at, the Community is basically like the Jedi Council.

Only one problem:

Mixedbag is a mixed bag, it is random, and isn't just Villains or Heroes, I expect more out of it, and I try not to be strict, like basically no rules, except one: no Canon stuff from Popular Culture or Media. (which I might actually put on the Wiki, but this was in my brain for a long time) There's no real theme, it's just a place where you create your own stuff, you're not limited (like some wikis are) The other thing is, I want my wiki to be different and unique on purpose, simply because I am disgruntled, and hated the way TFwiki, Wikipedia and other wikis wrote, and did things. To quote Repowers:"

You suck at choosing quotes
A lot of the quotes that show up on our pages aren't even quotes in a functional sense. They're transcriptions of entire scenes, which may be fun or memorable scenes, but not feature especially noteworthy dialog. Or they're descriptions of action which happen to have some words in the middle of them, or attempts to transcribe a moment of particularly memorable voice acting, or totally mundane bits of dialogue that are only there because someone thought of a "clever" comment to put after it (or worse still, a really-stretching OMG G1 cross-reference.)

But that's not what a quote is really supposed to be. A quote should be memorable or clever or character-defining even out of context, even without scene descriptions, even if a person's never seen the episode. It should be relatively short and succinct, require minimal description, and not rely on prior knowledge to make sense. That time when Prime went "UUUGAAAUGUAGH" may be hilarious to listen to, and it may be a great voice acting moment for Peter Cullen. But put it in print and it's a terrible quote, and you deserve to be executed for putting it there.

You dogpile onto stuff that probably shouldn't be there to begin with
On this wiki you'll find endless reams of Trivia notes that read "X is something something blah blah blah blah. Granted, X is also this that the other. However, to be fair, X might have been yadda yadda. Then again, X is not the first whozit to whatzit. Of course, it's possible that X could have this that the other."

It is inevitably the case that each sentence was written by a different user. Each successive user has tacked a wishy-washy conditional onto a sentence that wasn't made to be conditionalized. The result is a sloppy mess, a soggy mush of maybe-kindas that make it sound like we really don't know what the fuck we're talking about. It's the verbal equivalent of Cheerios left soaking in milk for an hour.

If you find yourself using any of these phrases, it should raise your eyebrow: Instead of dogpiling onto a note with one of these useless qualifiers, rewrite the original note. And if you can't rewrite it adequately, maybe your "cute" little addendum isn't worth writing in the first place.
 * Granted
 * Then again
 * To be fair
 * But still
 * However

If I catch you doing this, I will kill you. I mean it. Reach my hands right through the intardnet tubes and crush your throat till your eyeballs pop out. Try me.

You pad out your writing with pointless verbal fluff
It's a fundamental rule of all writing: Never use fifty words when ten will do.

This means the following phrases should never ever appear on this wiki, because they do not mean anything and add absolutely nothing to a sentence:
 * "It is important to note that" - really? How important is it? Will there be dire consequences if I fail to note it?
 * "It is worth noting that" - does that mean everything else is not worth noting?
 * "It should be noted that" - if we weren't planning to note it, we wouldn't be reading in the first place!
 * "This is a reference to" - in addition to being a verbal packing peanut, this is the most ham-handed method of linking two sentences imaginable.
 * "As the episode begins" / "The episode ends with" - what? The first line of the summary describes what's happening in the beginning of the episode?! NO! Thanks, I never would have guessed!
 * "If you look, you can see" - so if I don't look, I can't see it? Wow.

Your trivia notes suck
Other wikis used big words, and complcated things,even OVERcomplicating them.
 * You don't have a damn clue what a reference is. HINT: Something vaguely resembling something else is not a reference. ANOTHER HINT: a story cannot reference something that didn't exist when the story was written.
 * "X is the first/last/only character to do such and such" may occasionally be worth mentioning. Occasionally. However, "X is the first/last/only character to do such and such, except for this other guy who already did it" is never worth noting. If someone else already did it, then X isn't the first! Period!! Why this is not flagrantly obvious to anyone with enough neurons to turn on a computer is unclear to me, but apparently it isn't."

I just want to be simple, and be understandable and comprehensible to the common Layman, or human being.

I also don't consider it an anime wiki, or whatever, because I didn't want people to mess with my wiki and put Naruto crap on it. It's a mixedbag, but sometimes to an extent. (Also because Anime is cancerous, well in my opinion)

I don't consider it a TV/movie wiki, because I'm not gonna sellout to a random company, like the Family Guy wiki has.

I'm not even gonna censor myself. I know sometimes I come off as a dictator, but I hate Fascism, Socialism, Communism. I don't even want people to go on MS paint and take something that already exists, but put their own stuff.

NO! Be creative, be Unique.

That's all it is, and it's relatively simple.

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<p style="font-weight:normal;margin-top:0.4em;margin-bottom:0.5em;font-size:16px;background-color:rgb(246,246,246);">"Different ideas and perspectives can often come together to make an even better idea, taking more than one opinion into account. Where that breaks down is if you're not prepared to compromise. At that point, it's just people yelling at each other.

<p style="font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;background-color:rgb(246,246,246);">That leads to another important point, and something you want to avoid when building a community: drama. Drama can be all kinds of social issues like personal disputes, name calling, arguments, or anything else involving conflict between users. This can happen and sometimes it's unavoidable, but that doesn't mean that you shouldn't try to avoid it. The best way to steer clear of drama is to focus on building the content and reaching the goals of the community. Who said what, who thinks what, who ships which characters, who likes what movie more than another, and any other kinds of debates that can cause conflict should be avoided if the people involved are not respectful of others' opinions. You certainly do not need to say that those conversations can never take place, but making sure your main focus is on building content by writing pages about the subject is the best way to avoid major drama issues." Honestly, as a Person, an entity and a thing of this Universe, I respect debates and arguements.

<p style="font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;background-color:rgb(246,246,246);">You have a good point

<p style="margin-top:0.4em;margin-bottom:0.5em;line-height:1.5em;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:sans-serif;font-size:12.7px;font-weight:normal;"><span style="color:rgb(58,58,58);font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:16px;font-weight:normal;background-color:rgb(246,246,246);">"to be friendly and respectful of others", but this isn't a Utopia, it's not gonna be all Sunshine, Rainbows and Butterflies, dude, some people will be mean, and some will just be ignorant, and disrespectful.

<p style="margin-top:0.4em;margin-bottom:0.5em;line-height:1.5em;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:sans-serif;font-size:12.7px;font-weight:normal;"><span style="color:rgb(58,58,58);font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:16px;font-weight:normal;background-color:rgb(246,246,246);">This isn't my fault, it's how they were raised. (basically their Upbringing)

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<p style="margin-top:0.4em;margin-bottom:0.5em;line-height:1.5em;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:sans-serif;font-size:12.7px;font-weight:normal;"><span style="color:rgb(58,58,58);font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:16px;font-weight:normal;background-color:rgb(246,246,246);">"People will make mistakes, especially when they're new, so don't treat potentially great and helpful users like they're troublemakers." Another great point, I can atleast try to lead the newbie in the "Right direction", and also have Veterans and Old People (basically people who know what they're doing, and have been on the wiki long enough to even understand) also help.

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<span style="font-weight:normal;background-color:rgb(246,246,246);font-size:16px;color:rgb(58,58,58);font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;">"be open and welcoming to new contributors. People come and go, and the most dedicated contributors can only do so much. Without new users coming in, a community can't survive. Always remember to give them the time they need to learn how wikis work, and to always be welcoming, helpful, and respectful of them.

<p style="font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;background-color:rgb(246,246,246);">If you can keep all of this in mind, you will be able to build a great community that can work together towards its common goal." Dude, dude, dude. I welcome anyone, and everyone with open arms. (and sometimes I need to learn more about wiki stuff, so I ask you and vets for help.)

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<p style="font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;background-color:rgb(246,246,246);">"Create an awesome theme for your wiki so potential readers and contributors can see a great looking site when they arrive." Okay, I got this, but my wiki's basically random and made up of various things. And I can also scratch the Color Scheme thing off the list. As Sheev Palpatine said "Gooooood."

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