Forum:October 28th IRC meeting transcript

The following is a semi-sanitized version of the IRC chat transcript. All times listed are based in PDT (California etc).


 * 12:04:19  rar
 * 12:06:23  hmm, the time looks different
 * 12:06:29  it *is* different.
 * 12:06:39  and I thought 1:00 Cali is 4:00 NY
 * 12:06:39  PanSola made it an hour early, because he thought this weekend was when DST changed.
 * 12:06:45  !bAH, it is.
 * 12:06:53 * GPT has changed the topic to: Welcome! Support channel for Wikia's gaming wikis - http://www.wikia.com/wiki/Gaming | Need help? Just ask! | DST is NOT over yet!; PanSola lied. Wait another week, folks--and I guess that means the next group meeting is at 1:00 California / 4:00 New York / 9:00 London | http://requests.wikia.com to request a new wiki
 * 12:07:17  as per some thingy passed two years ago, DST is another week this jahr, btw.
 * 12:08:15  if you are in the US
 * 12:08:57 * Afker afks
 * 12:09:08  or if you're in Canadia, apparently.
 * 12:09:49  Depends on where in either. :)
 * 12:10:59 * Kodia is now known as Kodia|baking
 * 12:17:29  according to the National Post, everywhere except Saskatchewan, where they're like... what is it, Ohio and Arizona? and they don't have DST.
 * 12:30:25 * Kodia|baking has quit ("The computer fell asleep")
 * 12:30:53 * Kodia has joined #wikia-gaming
 * 12:31:13  wb
 * 12:31:17 >kodia< CTCP VERSION
 * 12:31:18 -Kodia- VERSION Snak for Macintosh 5.3.2 English
 * 12:31:20  thanks.
 * 12:31:24  Snak? /me looks
 * 12:31:29  Macintosh
 * 12:31:36  ja, das stimmt
 * 12:31:40 <Kodia> lol
 * 12:31:44 <GPT> (that's why /me looks)
 * 12:32:04 <GPT> X-Chat Aqua works pretty well, but I'm always on the lookout for the *best*!~
 * 12:32:15 <Kodia> This was the first one I tried, to be honest
 * 12:32:30 <Kodia> It works well enough, I suppose.
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 * 12:33:57 * GPT hugs [NewsBot]
 * 12:34:00 <GPT> LOL!!!
 * 12:34:09 <GPT> !bAH
 * 12:34:13 <[NewsBot]> GPT meant: http://www.wikia.com/wiki/LOL!!!
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 * 13:02:01 * [NewsBot] has quit (Nick collision from services.)
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 * 13:09:18 * Azzt|Hereish has joined #wikia-gaming
 * 13:09:24 * ChurchReborn has joined #wikia-gaming
 * 13:09:36 <GPT> hiya!
 * 13:09:43 <ChurchReborn> Hi.
 * 13:10:10 * Jack_Phoenix has joined #wikia-gaming
 * 13:10:18 <Azzt|Hereish> rar Jack_Phoenix
 * 13:10:21 <Jack_Phoenix> rar Azzt
 * 13:10:36 <GPT> okay, I think this is about as many people as we're going to get... not quite the turnout we were expecting, but let's get started.
 * 13:10:42 * GPT has changed the topic to: introduce yourself!
 * 13:10:42 * Charitwo has joined #wikia-gaming
 * 13:10:48 <Jack_Phoenix> Charitwo, rar
 * 13:10:58 <GPT> tell us your name, what wiki you're from, anything else we might want to know. =D
 * 13:11:03 * Charitwo rars
 * 13:11:29 * ChurchReborn switches to Java.freenode......
 * 13:11:30 * Afker is Afker, from w:c:AliceSoft.
 * 13:11:38 * Azzt|Hereish posesses the qualities of being Azzt Rhell from Teh Wook and (technically) Halopedia.
 * 13:11:41 <Charitwo> My name is Charitwo and I'm from FFXIclopedia, it's been more than a month and our forums/IRC still haven't been moved yay <3 TOR
 * 13:11:44 * Gambit has joined #wikia-gaming
 * 13:11:49 <Gambit> \o/
 * 13:12:06 <Gambit> hmm no Ausir ?
 * 13:12:12 * ausir :No such nick/channel
 * 13:12:14 * ChurchReborn has quit
 * 13:12:15 * ausir :There was no such nickname
 * 13:12:15 * ausir :End of WHOWAS
 * 13:13:01 <GPT> okay... a couple people have introducted, so the next thing:
 * 13:13:11 <GPT> Featured gaming wikia! vote on it at http://www.wikia.com/wiki/Featured_gaming_wikia
 * 13:13:30 <GPT> so far only a few wikia have been nominated, so feel free to nominate/vote for any one you want!
 * 13:13:48 <Azzt|Hereish> waitasec...even more technically I'm part of the MTG wiki
 * 13:13:54 <Kodia> Good afternoon. My apologies. I had my hands full of cookie dough up til a minute ago.
 * 13:14:01 <Azzt|Hereish> Cookie dough!
 * 13:14:13 * Azzt|Hereish steals some of Kodia's cookies
 * 13:14:15 * Charitwo goes to put the pizza in the oven.
 * 13:15:09 * ChurchReborn has joined #wikia-gaming
 * 13:15:15 <Azzt|Hereish> wb
 * 13:15:24 * Phil_E has joined #wikia-gaming
 * 13:15:45 <Azzt|Hereish> wait...GPT...introducted?
 * 13:15:45 <GPT> Phil_E, ChurchReborn: introduce yerselves, vote at http://www.wikia.com/wiki/Featured_gaming_wikia ! =D
 * 13:15:53 <GPT> Azzt|Hereish: yes, introducted.
 * 13:16:45 <Azzt|Hereish> lol
 * 13:17:07 * ChurchReborn is ChurchReborn and is from halopedia.
 * 13:17:23 * Azzt|Hereish will bbs
 * 13:17:31 <Phil_E> User:Phil.e.; I edit at Halopedia and OverWiki, am an admin at Wikia Central, bureaucrat at Wii Wiki and Voynich Manuscript Wiki, founder of Mario Wiki, fr.Halopedia, es.Halopedia,
 * 13:17:48 <Gambit> I'm all over ..thats all :)
 * 13:17:55 <Charitwo> NO!!!
 * 13:17:56 * GPT has changed the topic to: Featured gaming wikia! vote on it at http://www.wikia.com/wiki/Featured_gaming_wikia | any recent issues at your wikis? we want to know!
 * 13:18:01 <Charitwo> list every wiki comet!
 * 13:18:37 <Gambit> ahh Harry Potter, Rugby Union, Mortal Kombat are my admin/crat wiki's ;)
 * 13:18:46 * Azzt|Hereish is back
 * 13:18:47 <Charitwo> Issue: TOR needs to move our forums/IRC faster!
 * 13:19:41 <Charitwo> that only works if he's logged in you goof
 * 13:19:55 <Kodia> Issue: when a problem occurs Wikia-wide, we're struggling with how to (1) find out if it's just us (2) figure out when it's all better (so we can tell our users).
 * 13:20:05 <GPT> !bAH, it was still a smack, regardless of whether he was there to receive it. =P
 * 13:20:54 <Charitwo> per Kodia, is it possible to disable external image embedding on a wiki-by-wiki basis ?
 * 13:21:00 <Kodia> Obviously the #wikia channel is a place we can go, but the constant "is anyone having trouble with..." comments get tedious. Is there a better place we're not aware of?
 * 13:21:36 <GPT> Charitwo: not sure... I thought it was completely disabled Wikia-wide already though. might want to talk to a staffer about that... *cough*TOR*cough*
 * 13:22:06 <Charitwo> too bad I sleep and work when he's logged in, so I use sannse as my messenger lady
 * 13:22:59 <Charitwo> http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/index.php?title=User:Stack&oldid=368666
 * 13:23:11 <GPT> Kodia: I don't know of any better places... maybe they should put any Wikia-wide problems in the Sitenotice? you should mention that to a staffer
 * 13:23:46 <Kodia> Will do. Thankyou. You don't happen to have the staffer link handy, do you? I can find it if not.
 * 13:24:01 <Charitwo> Community Team
 * 13:24:01 <[NewsBot]> Charitwo meant: http://www.wikia.com/wiki/Community_Team
 * 13:24:09 <Kodia> Good bot.
 * 13:24:12 <Phil_E> lol
 * 13:24:15 <GPT> rofl
 * 13:24:35 * Phil_E has quit ("Wikia, Inc. - Resistance if futile!")
 * 13:25:25 <Azzt|Hereish> Whee.
 * 13:25:33 <Jack_Phoenix> that quit message is a classic :P
 * 13:25:56 <GPT> so.. anyone else have any problems with wikis, with Wikia as a whole, anything like that?
 * 13:26:25 <Kodia> Aside from the widget issue?
 * 13:26:55 * GPT didn't know there was a widget issue...
 * 13:27:11 <Kodia> I was told it was a common problem across the board.
 * 13:27:14 <Jack_Phoenix> yeah
 * 13:27:22 <GPT> but actually I kinda meant more along the lines of community issues, stuff like that... not technical issues. !bAH
 * 13:27:41 <Kodia> ah, ok. sorry.
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 * 13:28:02 <GPT> it's all good; and this way I get to keep up with skins I don't use. ^_^
 * 13:28:08 <Jack_Phoenix> Phil_E, rar and rofl at your quit message
 * 13:28:22 <Charitwo> it's been that way for a while now :P
 * 13:28:23 <GPT> Phil_E, rar and rowl at your quit message
 * 13:28:41 <Phil_E> heh
 * 13:29:56 <GPT> moving right along...
 * 13:30:09 <GPT> How we as a gaming wiki community can collectively (as opposed to individually) help newly created wikis, or struggling wikis?
 * 13:30:22 * GPT has changed the topic to: Featured gaming wikia! vote on it at http://www.wikia.com/wiki/Featured_gaming_wikia | How we as a gaming wiki community can collectively (as opposed to individually) help newly created wikis, or struggling wikis?
 * 13:30:42 <Phil_E> offer technical/other help?
 * 13:30:57 <GPT> that's more of an individual thing, I think...
 * 13:31:21 <GPT> but it *does* take a lot of individual work to work collectively, so that's a valid point
 * 13:31:23 <Kodia> not necessarily.
 * 13:31:25 <Phil_E> i mean as a community, offer help
 * 13:32:01 <GPT> what kind of help could be offered, though? that's more of what I meant to ask, really...
 * 13:32:13 <Phil_E> templates
 * 13:32:15 <Phil_E> coding
 * 13:32:19 <Phil_E> page design, etc
 * 13:32:26 <Phil_E> also custom css/js
 * 13:32:30 <Charitwo> logos
 * 13:32:37 <Phil_E> that too
 * 13:32:55 <GPT> I've been doing a few things to help the network of wikia related to Halo and Bungie, which applies to more people than technical help making things, for example...
 * 13:33:39 <GPT> I added links to the five other wikia from each of the six pages on Central for those sites, as well as adding links in Sidebars; I think that's the kind of thing that could help inactive wikis, rather than helping active wikis with newbies for editors...
 * 13:34:24 <GPT> what do you guys think?
 * 13:34:39 * Azzt|Hereish is now known as Azzt_Rhell
 * 13:35:38 <Phil_E> links?
 * 13:35:42 <Kodia> I've been puzzling it and trying to figure out what I can do personally, to be honest. The "community" sense is still a bit lost on me because we've not had a community from our wiki before other than the admins and that's a small group.
 * 13:35:46 <GPT> Phil_E: links!
 * 13:36:03 <Kodia> I think for me at least, I'm still struggling to define and understand what this gaming community is.
 * 13:36:58 <Charitwo> could always encourage the respective communities to utilize freenode IRC to collaborate
 * 13:37:05 <GPT> Kodia, well, at some of the larger gaming wikia, there are enough users for newbies to want to stick around... at Halopedia, for example, there are about 10-15 regulars in the IRC channel, just because Halo is a popular topic to discuss...
 * 13:37:44 <Kodia> GPT: ok. That may be where our games differ then in a large degree.
 * 13:38:05 <Kodia> Out wiki has many edits, but not always from "regulars" because of the in-game ability to update the wiki
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 * 13:38:23 <Phil_E> rar Ashley|Coding
 * 13:38:26 <Kodia> our IRC channel is more for people who need a bit of help every so often
 * 13:38:33 <Kodia> or at least it has been to date
 * 13:38:37 <Phil_E> help with the wiki or the game?
 * 13:38:44 <Kodia> more the wiki
 * 13:38:49 <Phil_E> oh
 * 13:38:52 <Ashley|Coding> ...
 * 13:38:54 <Kodia> the game has better help from players currently in the game
 * 13:38:54 <Ashley|Coding> stupid connection
 * 13:38:56 * Ashley|Coding blames lousy ISP
 * 13:38:58 <Phil_E> lol
 * 13:39:06 <Phil_E> heh
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 * 13:39:36 <GPT> Kodia, you should try to make the IRC channel more of a chatroom than a helproom... the link in the toolbox says "live wiki help," but maybe adding a link in the Sidebar that says "chatroom" or something could work better?
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 * 13:40:07 <Kodia> i think we should use it for what our players/wiki users need most
 * 13:40:14 <Kodia> ymmv
 * 13:41:14 <GPT> you shouldn't limit it to that, though. in #halopedia, our only limits are that you can't talk about things which are profane, offensive, stuff like that. but it's just a general chatroom for anything, although we try to gear it more towards Halo, which works well as it's the only place where a large chunk of our community hangs out.
 * 13:41:23 what time this start this week?
 * 13:41:34 <Phil_E> rar uberfuzzy
 * 13:41:50 <GPT> it was supposed to start an hour and forty minutes ago, 'cause PanSola thought DST ended this week
 * 13:42:07 <GPT> I made it the time it's always been, so it started 41 minutse ago.
 * 13:42:18 <Kodia> Did I say that we limited it? :) We don't.
 * 13:42:28 <Kodia> We do a lot of different kinds of chat in that channel
 * 13:42:41 <GPT> well, you *did* say you should use it for what they need most... obviously *that* shouldn't be disallowed.
 * 13:42:42 <Kodia> To-date, however, it's been help with wiki-related things.
 * 13:43:17 <GPT> maybe you could try to strike up different kinds of discussions with whoever's in there?
 * 13:43:17 <Kodia> Why don't we focus on what the *community* needs at wikia rather than what you think EQ2i should be doing?
 * 13:43:27 <GPT> !bAH
 * 13:43:29 <Kodia> only 4-5 people are in there at a time.
 * 13:43:35 <Kodia> and two of them are admins.
 * 13:43:56 mostly its lurkers
 * 13:44:28 if i'm at the computer doing stuff, even if i'm not working on the wiki or playing eq2, i'm on irc, just incase someone needs help
 * 13:45:06 <Charitwo> oh, you play eq2
 * 13:45:10 <Charitwo> <_<
 * 13:45:16 <GPT> well, even if getting more of a community feel at your wiki can't be done easily... I'm still a fan of linking to new/related wikis and strongly encouraging people to help there.
 * 13:45:32 <Charitwo> TOR's rename page on our wiki was only meant for ffxiclopedia users you sneak :P
 * 13:45:45 that was my account tho
 * 13:46:18 <Charitwo> it was only for FFXI- accounts
 * 13:46:40 that was my ffxi account, i used to play ffxi, and worked on ffxicylopedia
 * 13:47:08 <Phil_E> how do you pronounce that?
 * 13:47:15 <Charitwo> no, I meant if your account was FFXI-uberfuzzy or something
 * 13:47:25 <Phil_E> eff-eff-cksi-clo-pedia?
 * 13:47:40 that what i assumed phil
 * 13:47:42 <Charitwo> Completed
 * 13:47:44 <Charitwo> * UberFuzzy to Uberfuzzy
 * 13:47:54 <Charitwo> FFXI stands for Final Fantasy XI
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 * 13:50:44 <GPT> interesting quit message...
 * 13:51:20 <GPT> anyone else have anything they'd like to talk about?
 * 13:51:43 <Phil_E> vandalism on MarioWiki?
 * 13:51:43 * Jack_Phoenix is back and rars
 * 13:51:46 <Phil_E> rar
 * 13:51:49 <GPT> and everyone, please, *please* go and vote at http://www.wikia.com/wiki/Featured_gaming_wikia
 * 13:52:25 <Kodia> Has there been any more discussion on templates, their sharing, and ideas various games might be able to steal, incorporate, imitate from other gaming wikis?
 * 13:52:36 <Jack_Phoenix> hmm
 * 13:52:44 <Jack_Phoenix> how's the gamingstarter wikia coming along?
 * 13:53:04 <GPT> what's the URL?
 * 13:53:11 i've been stealing ideas and templates left and right from halopedia
 * 13:53:16 <Charitwo> what vandalism Phil_E i dont see anything
 * 13:53:20 <Phil_E> i know
 * 13:53:32 <GPT> rofl @ uberfuzzy
 * 13:53:34 <ChurchReborn> That was along time ago....
 * 13:53:38 <Phil_E> but there was vandalism when it started up from members of supermariowiki.com
 * 13:53:45 <Phil_E> haha uberfuzzy
 * 13:53:46 <Kodia> I've stolen from Hellbound
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 * 13:54:26 <GPT> Jack_Phoenix, the gamingstarter seems to be a little inactive... don't know what more can be done, besides a few starter templates that may or may not be wanted by all gaming wikia.
 * 13:54:29 * Gambit has quit ("Who lives in a pineapple under the sea< Jimbo Squarepants :P '")
 * 13:54:39 <Jack_Phoenix> meh
 * 13:55:08 <GPT> although... I think the Sidebar or Navlinks should have a space to link to related wikia.
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 * 13:56:07 <GPT> Halopedia, for example, has an entire "related sites" spot in the Sidebar, linking to the five other sites in the "Bungie network" or wha-evah
 * 13:56:14 <GPT> rar Forerunner, Malklor
 * 13:56:32 <Forerunner> 1,189 now. raised by loads. was1,107 on saturday morn.
 * 13:56:41 <Forerunner> tired now
 * 13:56:45 <Malklor> O_O
 * 13:56:59 <Phil_E> GPT: are the other language links still in the related sites?
 * 13:57:13 <Forerunner> yes
 * 13:57:16 <GPT> they're in "other language" below "related sites"
 * 13:57:32 <Forerunner> though the "related sites" should rather be "Affliants"
 * 13:57:51 Forerunner: i've been meaning to ask, what wiki is it that your always talking about how many pages?
 * 13:58:12 <Phil_E> there are two of those...
 * 13:58:33 <Forerunner> ok
 * 13:58:33 <GPT> Forerunner, I dunno if we should call them affiliated... because not all of them *are* affiliated. Bungiepedia, for example, doesn't link to any of the other Bungie-related sites, as far as I know... except on the Central page for it.
 * 13:58:37 <Phil_E> GPT: there's one under "related sites" and another under "wikia"
 * 13:58:45 <Phil_E> i think it does that automatically or something
 * 13:58:55 <GPT> Phil_E: that's different.
 * 13:59:10 <GPT> the one in "other languages" is a direct link to the main page of the different languaged sites
 * 13:59:23 <Forerunner> well... i haven't been on in a while
 * 13:59:34 <GPT> the one at the bottom is a link to the same page in different languages, but only if it exists *and* if you put an interwiki link on it.
 * 13:59:49 <Forerunner> like on wikipedia?
 * 14:00:07 <GPT> huh? we're talking about Halopedia's different languages, not Wikipedia...
 * 14:00:30 <Forerunner> nono... the pages linking to the other languages pages of the same thing
 * 14:01:31 <GPT> yeah. the John-117 page on en.Halopedia links to the John-117 on de.Halopedia and on es.Halopedia *below* the sidebar, as well as the main pages of all five foreign languages *in* the sidebar.
 * 14:02:03 <Forerunner> that's wat i ment
 * 14:02:11 <GPT> ja
 * 14:02:45 <Forerunner> ja.? or did u mean yes?
 * 14:03:11 <GPT> that's what "ja" means; I just say it in German sometimes 'cause I'm weird like that.
 * 14:08:08 <Forerunner> G2G now guys BYE
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 * 14:13:13 <Afker> hmm
 * 14:14:50 * Malklor has left #wikia-gaming
 * 14:17:17 <GPT> well... I guess this concludes today's meeting. ^_^
 * 14:17:50 <Kodia> Ok. Perhaps for the next ones we could post some ideas for discussions ahead of time?
 * 14:18:19 * Charitwo has left #wikia-gaming
 * 14:18:53 <GPT> PanSola already posted some ideas for discussion on my talk page ahead of time... and those were the discussions we discussed. but if you have any more ideas, we'd LOVE to hear 'em!
 * 14:19:57 <Kodia> ah, i looked in the forums area and didn't see any
 * 14:20:11 <GPT> oh, forums...

-PanSola 02:10, 1 November 2007 (UTC)