Forum:October 21st IRC meeting transcript

The following is a semi-sanitized version of the IRC chat transcript. All times listed are based in London. Summary of key points covered in the chat will be available in a separate thread.


 * 19:16:11 * Forerunner	joined #wikia-gaming
 * 19:17:13  hi
 * 19:17:37  hi there
 * 19:17:38  (-:
 * 19:18:19  I forgot which wikis you are involved in.  Halo fanon?
 * 19:22:35  Resident Evil, Dino Crisis and Halo Fanon
 * 19:23:31  ah yeah (-:
 * 19:23:40 * TwoTailedFox	joined #wikia-gaming
 * 19:23:45  did RE get a surge of traffic because of the movie?
 * 19:23:49  hi TwoTailed (-:
 * 19:24:24  a bit
 * 19:24:47  but the Movie-releated updates were all made by same person
 * 19:24:54  4got the username tho
 * 19:25:02  hm
 * 19:25:38  I think the Yu-Gi-Oh! Wikia owes all it's popularity by word-of-mouth
 * 19:26:11  Everyone seems to use it for reference, it's even outstripping Netrep in popularly in some areas
 * 19:26:24  between Yu-Gi-Oh card players? or between the anime watchers?
 * 19:26:33  Mostly card players
 * 19:26:38 <PanSola> cool
 * 19:26:46 * PanSola is unfamiliar with what Netrep is
 * 19:26:48 <TwoTailedFox> But, we have a few Anime/Manga buffs
 * 19:26:53 <TwoTailedFox> www.netrep.net
 * 19:27:05 <TwoTailedFox> Basically what we emulated, but they have a web-based API
 * 19:27:18 <TwoTailedFox> And it only covers English cards
 * 19:27:39 <PanSola> hmm
 * 19:28:17 <PanSola> do you think the web-based API is a big draw?
 * 19:28:38 <TwoTailedFox> More for them than anyone else
 * 19:28:57 <TwoTailedFox> Their searching system is built around it
 * 19:30:28 <PanSola> are players of one trading card game often players of many other trading card games?
 * 19:30:37 * PanSola is trying to understand the gamer dymaic of TCGs
 * 19:31:29 <PanSola> or at least, using yourself as an example, are you a fan of other trading card games?
 * 19:31:40 <TwoTailedFox> Depends. Generally, People go from Yu-Gi-Oh -> Magic, or vice versa, they rarely play both simultaniously
 * 19:31:52 <TwoTailedFox> Depends. Magic is OK, but it doesn't interest me
 * 19:31:52 * Dantman|afk	joined #wikia-gaming
 * 19:31:59 <PanSola> hi Dantman
 * 19:32:09 * Dantman|afk is now known as Nadir_Seen_Fire
 * 19:32:32 * Forerunner is now known as Biohazardfan14
 * 19:32:37 <PanSola> two: so other TCGs are even less of interest to most TCGers in your view?
 * 19:32:48 <PanSola> o_O all the nickchanign is gonna get me so confused
 * 19:35:09 <Biohazardfan14> lol i'm just changing into something more suited.
 * 19:35:12 <PanSola> TwoTailed: do you think an ex-Magic player (converted to Yu-Gi-Oh) might be interested in contributing to a MTG wiki (or vice versa)
 * 19:35:41 <PanSola> ie, "even though I no longer play it, I used to be a fan, and therefore interested in helping with the wiki"
 * 19:38:55 <TwoTailedFox> I think MTG has a huge potential as a Wikia.
 * 19:39:43 <TwoTailedFox> As for Yu-Gi-Oh!, we have several non-players contributing to the game-playing sections
 * 19:41:12 <Biohazardfan14> NOPE
 * 19:41:17 * PanSola|afk	joined #wikia-gaming
 * 19:41:21 <Biohazardfan14> you can't make any other
 * 19:41:31 <Biohazardfan14> tried multiple times
 * 19:41:34 <PanSola|afk> sorry got disconnected, didn see anyting after " I think MTG has a huge potential as a Wikia."
 * 19:41:41 <Biohazardfan14> to make the Platinum Star
 * 19:41:44 <Biohazardfan14> doesn't wok
 * 19:41:53 <Biohazardfan14> not even Double Star: cancels them out
 * 19:42:22 <PanSola|afk> TwoTailed: do you used to play any TCG befroe Yu-Gi-Oh?
 * 19:42:24 <Biohazardfan14> so basicly you can't make medium wiki size
 * 19:42:36 <Biohazardfan14> only ons less than 500 + ones above
 * 19:43:03 <PanSola|afk> there is a possible way to add an extra level
 * 19:43:12 <PanSola|afk> you'd have to create a new template for it
 * 19:43:15 <Biohazardfan14> !!!!!?
 * 19:43:16 <PanSola|afk> and upload a new image for it
 * 19:43:19 <Biohazardfan14> i know
 * 19:43:21 <Biohazardfan14> i tried to
 * 19:43:27 <Biohazardfan14> of course just the coeding
 * 19:43:35 <Biohazardfan14> no need to make a template that may not work
 * 19:43:39 <PanSola|afk> heh
 * 19:43:46 <PanSola|afk> well teh image needs to exist
 * 19:43:47 <Biohazardfan14> irony
 * 19:43:58 <Biohazardfan14> hm
 * 19:44:04 <Biohazardfan14> i'll try that them k
 * 19:44:17 <PanSola|afk> sure
 * 19:44:30 <PanSola|afk> what's your cutoff for the platinum gonna be?
 * 19:45:21 * PanSola has quit (Nick collision from services.)
 * 19:45:23 * PanSola|afk is now known as PanSola
 * 19:45:58 <Biohazardfan14> dunno
 * 19:46:14 <Biohazardfan14> what about double gold for 1000?
 * 19:46:19 <Biohazardfan14> 5000 gets platinum
 * 19:46:32 <Biohazardfan14> zgenuine articles
 * 19:46:40 <PanSola> do you know how many are over 5000?
 * 19:47:19 <Biohazardfan14> OOOOOOOOOOO
 * 19:47:21 <Biohazardfan14> maybe none
 * 19:47:26 <Biohazardfan14> i'll check'
 * 19:47:33 <PanSola> lol
 * 19:49:05 * Speckle|Away	joined #wikia-gaming
 * 19:49:45 * Speckle|Away	left #wikia-gaming ("Poof.")
 * 19:49:59 <Biohazardfan14> what about 2500 instead?
 * 19:50:11 <Biohazardfan14> theres a couple in there
 * 19:50:15 <PanSola> hehe
 * 19:50:30 <PanSola> actually I think at least 10 are over 5000
 * 19:50:37 * Otter-Man	joined #wikia-gaming
 * 19:50:48 <PanSola> hi there otter
 * 19:50:52 <Otter-Man> Hey
 * 19:51:24 <Biohazardfan14> this is the coding
 * 19:51:27 <Biohazardfan14>
 * 19:51:29 <PanSola> we are just semi-chatting right now before things really gets started
 * 19:51:31 <Otter-Man> it's not as crowded here as I thought it would be
 * 19:51:33 <Biohazardfan14> can't make it from that
 * 19:51:48 <PanSola> biohazard: well you odn't have access to CSS
 * 19:51:58 <Biohazardfan14> ?
 * 19:52:02 <PanSola> so you won't have the ability to affect what class="buttonstar" does
 * 19:52:13 <PanSola> Otter-Man: last week we had mroe people
 * 19:52:28 <PanSola> I guess noon is too early for people on the WEst Coast America
 * 19:54:25 <PanSola> hmm
 * 19:55:57 * Simon_rjh	joined #wikia-gaming
 * 19:56:01 <PanSola> hi there
 * 19:56:02 <PanSola> (-:
 * 19:56:05 <Simon_rjh> hi
 * 19:57:07 <PanSola> TwoTailedFox: do you used to play any trading card games before Yu-Gi-Oh?
 * 19:57:57 <TwoTailedFox> I played Pokemon and Mah=gic briefly
 * 19:58:22 <Otter-Man> I used to play Pokemon TCG before...
 * 19:58:30 <Otter-Man> Still like pokemon, don't like the TCG
 * 19:58:33 * Phil_E|Away	joined #wikia-gaming
 * 19:58:44 <PanSola> hi Phil
 * 19:59:00 <Biohazardfan14> yay Phil.e
 * 19:59:11 <Phil_E|Away> hi :D
 * 19:59:57 <PanSola> Kirkburn: are you with us?
 * 20:00:05 <Kirkburn> I am
 * 20:00:08 <PanSola> (-:
 * 20:00:37 * Phil_E|Away is now known as Phil_E
 * 20:00:45 <PanSola> ok lets do introductions: which wikis you are involved in, and if you are founder/admin/reguar-user on each of the wikis
 * 20:01:03 <PanSola> I'm an admin on GuildWiki, and I founded the (semi-abandoned) Chinese Guild Wars wiki
 * 20:01:36 <PanSola> everyone: please talk at once
 * 20:02:12 <Kirkburn> I'm admin on WoWWiki, and I'm looking after several nascent wikis for upcoming games
 * 20:02:49 <PanSola> oh yeah I've also started editing the Gundam Wiki, but not sure if that one will grow to eventually cover games or not
 * 20:03:03 <Biohazardfan14> I'm Head admin of Resident Evil Wiki and Dino Crisis Wiki, and co-admin of abandonedfrench Halo
 * 20:03:09 <Otter-Man> I'm from RuneScape Wiki, in the process of becoming an admin, and I'm working on the Custom Robo Wiki.
 * 20:04:28 <Phil_E> I'm from Halopedia, bureaucrat of Wii Wiki, founder of Mario Wiki, only really active on the first
 * 20:04:56 <Phil_E> also made a few edits on Half Life and Ghost Recon wiki
 * 20:04:59 <PanSola> ooo the Wii Wiki. I have always wanted to suggest it be named the Wiiki
 * 20:05:02 <Phil_E> *wikis
 * 20:05:03 <TwoTailedFox> I'm the founder of the Yu-Gi-Oh! Wikia, we're currently in the process of centralising all of our data into fewer articles.
 * 20:05:07 <Phil_E> hehe
 * 20:05:47 <PanSola> warpath: are you with us or afk?
 * 20:06:01 * Van_Halen	joined #wikia-gaming
 * 20:06:06 <PanSola> hi Van Halen
 * 20:06:24 <Van_Halen> hey
 * 20:06:27 <PanSola> we are doing introductions right now. Which wikis you are from, and whether you are founder/admin/reg-user on any of them
 * 20:06:49 <Van_Halen> Rswiki and sometimes Yu-gi-oh and uncyclopedia
 * 20:07:07 <Van_Halen> and ed edd and eddy
 * 20:07:20 <Van_Halen> Im only admin on ed edd and eddy
 * 20:07:33 <PanSola> what's "ed edd and eddy"? o_O
 * 20:07:40 * PanSola is ignorant
 * 20:07:57 <PanSola> Simon_rjh and Nadir_Seen_Fire: please introduce yoruselves
 * 20:08:04 <PanSola> (-:
 * 20:08:08 <Phil_E> ed, edd, 'n' eddy is a cartoon :)
 * 20:08:12 <Van_Halen> ed edd and eddy = awesome tv show
 * 20:08:13 <PanSola> oo
 * 20:08:15 <Phil_E> (hilarious too, IMHO)
 * 20:08:20 <Nadir_Seen_Fire> T_T no lurking!?
 * 20:08:24 <Phil_E> lol
 * 20:08:29 <PanSola> lurk after you self-introduced
 * 20:08:42 <PanSola> Van_Halen: any "ed-it" jokes on that wiki? d-:
 * 20:08:49 <Phil_E> haha
 * 20:09:15 <Van_Halen> lolz
 * 20:09:39 * PanSola waves at Simon_rjh
 * 20:10:06 * Charitwo	joined #wikia-gaming
 * 20:10:10 <PanSola> hi Charitwo
 * 20:10:14 <Phil_E> rar Charitwo
 * 20:10:16 <Nadir_Seen_Fire> Head of Wikia ACG here lurking for 2 reasons... It's possible someone may at some point start a project similar to Wikia ACG but about gaming... The two would meet on a number of wiki and it's good to already be familiar with the community... Also, ^_^ the career I'm starting is in game development...
 * 20:10:16 <Charitwo> rar
 * 20:10:27 <PanSola> we are doing intros right now: which wikis you are from, if you are founder/admin/user on each of those
 * 20:10:28 <Nadir_Seen_Fire> there... that good!?
 * 20:10:39 * Nadir_Seen_Fire can't list all of his...
 * 20:10:46 <PanSola> nadir: ok, you can lurk now
 * 20:10:55 * Nadir_Seen_Fire is now known as Dantman|Sleepy
 * 20:10:57 <PanSola> (-:
 * 20:11:01 <Charitwo> FFXIclopedia and StrategyWiki (non-wiki)
 * 20:11:04 <PanSola> hey, I said lurk, not sleep!
 * 20:11:07 <Charitwo> non-wikia*
 * 20:11:22 <Dantman|Sleepy> Not sleeping... Sleepy...
 * 20:11:27 <PanSola> heh ok
 * 20:11:28 <Charitwo> admin and user respectively
 * 20:11:28 <Phil_E> lol
 * 20:11:32 <PanSola> nice
 * 20:11:48 * PanSola pokes Simon_rjh with a dull rusty fork
 * 20:11:48 <Dantman|Sleepy> Disorienting type sleepyness...... Almost like being drunk... Not that I'd know... rofl
 * 20:11:57 <Charitwo> uh huh!
 * 20:12:25 <PanSola> guess he's afk
 * 20:12:57 <PanSola> anyways, for those of you who weren't here last week (which seems to be most of you), you can check out last week's summary and transcript at: http://www.wikia.com/index.php?title=Forum:Gaming_lounge&t=20071016000101
 * 20:13:48 * JoePlay	joined #wikia-gaming
 * 20:13:52 <PanSola> I was hoping we can get many ppl from last week back so we can kinda pick up where we left off..
 * 20:13:53 <TwoTailedFox> So, what's up for discussion first?
 * 20:14:04 <PanSola> so now I'm not sure how to start thigns off d-:
 * 20:14:18 <PanSola> ok a general one: any issues that are bugging your respective wikis?
 * 20:14:31 <Otter-Man> you mean BESIDES vandals?
 * 20:14:34 <PanSola> lol
 * 20:14:36 <PanSola> yeah
 * 20:14:43 <Otter-Man> maybe
 * 20:14:44 <PanSola> well, are vandals especially bad on your wiki?
 * 20:14:46 <Phil_E> that scrollbox is odd
 * 20:14:48 <Otter-Man> YES
 * 20:14:53 <TwoTailedFox> Until recently, we had a lot of redundancy issues
 * 20:14:56 <Otter-Man> We have one who just keeps coming back
 * 20:15:07 <Otter-Man> since last year he's been vandalizing
 * 20:15:11 <PanSola> hmm
 * 20:15:12 <Dantman|Sleepy> Lack of people good with advanced templates!?
 * 20:15:20 <Otter-Man> He say's his IP changes, but I'm not sure that's ture
 * 20:15:21 <TwoTailedFox> We were using many templates (I think around... 25-odd?) Which we could have condensed into 1
 * 20:15:23 <Otter-Man> true*
 * 20:15:27 <PanSola> oh, yeah, I can help with advanced template issues
 * 20:15:35 <Phil_E> you have to scroll the page all the way down to scroll it to the right to read the rest, scroll back up to read, scroll down again to put it back to normal, go back up and read some more, and repeat
 * 20:15:41 <Dantman|Sleepy> ^_^ oi... that's my job...
 * 20:15:44 <TwoTailedFox> Dantman|Sleepy: If I knew how to program them, I'd do it.
 * 20:15:52 <Dantman|Sleepy> This isn't programming
 * 20:15:54 <PanSola> Phil_E: what scroll box?
 * 20:15:56 <Dantman|Sleepy> It's markup
 * 20:15:59 <Phil_E> on that forum
 * 20:16:05 <Phil_E> http://www.wikia.com/index.php?title=Forum:October_14th_IRC_meeting_transcript&t=20071015195057
 * 20:16:05 <PanSola> Dantman|Sleepy: advanced templates IS programming
 * 20:16:13 <TwoTailedFox> markup is still programming to my eyes
 * 20:16:17 <PanSola> Phil_E: oooo
 * 20:16:23 <Phil_E> at least, it shows up as one for me
 * 20:16:23 <PanSola> um, I'll try to fix it after today's chat
 * 20:16:29 <Dantman|Sleepy> Nope... even a light scriping language at leasts gives me a goto if it doesn't have a while
 * 20:16:30 <PanSola> sorry about that
 * 20:16:31 <Charitwo> the fact that the ads /have/ to be on the side of the screen is an issue of mine, what is the difference if it's at the bottom of the screen not interrupting the width of content. Be fair to people with lower resolutions
 * 20:16:34 <Phil_E> np ;)
 * 20:16:39 <Dantman|Sleepy> T_T I want loopfunctions...
 * 20:16:40 <Biohazardfan14> lol
 * 20:16:45 <PanSola> Dantman|Sleepy: once you get to an IF you are programming
 * 20:17:16 * Speckledorph	joined #wikia-gaming
 * 20:17:16 <Dantman|Sleepy> We had if's before we had ParserFunctions
 * 20:17:21 <Otter-Man> SPECKLE!
 * 20:17:23 <PanSola> having loops give you something that's Turing-Complete essentialy
 * 20:17:25 <Speckledorph> OTTER!
 * 20:17:35 <Otter-Man> I thought you weren't joining?
 * 20:17:37 <PanSola> and that adds great complexity
 * 20:17:41 <PanSola> hi Speckledorph
 * 20:17:46 <Speckledorph> Hi. =]
 * 20:17:52 <Dantman|Sleepy> Well it'll at least make working with templates a bit better
 * 20:18:21 <PanSola> anyways, on topic, so besides Otter-Man having one persistent vandal, nobody else has any issues on thier wikis?
 * 20:18:27 <Dantman|Sleepy> I use regex to generate some of the code in things like Template:See also which use the same thing over and over with different numbers
 * 20:18:54 * Simonrjh|H3	joined #wikia-gaming
 * 20:19:02 <Simonrjh|H3> oops
 * 20:19:06 <PanSola> Dantman|Sleepy: having infinite loops on wiki pages is probably quite a bad idea
 * 20:19:09 <PanSola> hi SImon
 * 20:19:09 <Phil_E> oh right...
 * 20:19:12 <Simonrjh|H3> hi
 * 20:19:16 <Phil_E> es and fr.Halopedia too...
 * 20:19:23 <Dantman|Sleepy> PanSola: Not infinite loops... mostly a repeat
 * 20:19:27 * Phil_E forgot about those
 * 20:19:36 <PanSola> Dantman|Sleepy: but allowing loops means infi loop can happen
 * 20:19:41 <PanSola> ANYWAYS
 * 20:19:43 <PanSola> ok
 * 20:19:48 <PanSola> moving on
 * 20:19:49 <Dantman|Sleepy> Nope... you can place restrictions
 * 20:20:02 <PanSola> how many people have checked out the Quartz skin gaming theme?
 * 20:20:08 <Dantman|Sleepy> I did...
 * 20:20:11 <Simonrjh|H3> i dont like it
 * 20:20:16 <Dantman|Sleepy> It's nice... but I have a bit of an issue with it...
 * 20:20:18 * Phil_E has
 * 20:20:20 * Simonrjh|H3 is now known as Simonrjh
 * 20:20:23 <Phil_E> it's not bad
 * 20:20:26 <Dantman|Sleepy> It's dark...
 * 20:20:29 <PanSola> Simon_rjh: what are your issues with it
 * 20:20:39 <PanSola> Dantman|Sleepy: without the darkness it'd be smoke
 * 20:20:46 <Dantman|Sleepy> No... I mean the content area
 * 20:21:12 <Dantman|Sleepy> Things get screwed up like that unless you let people introduce skin specific code for dark skins
 * 20:21:19 * PanSola nods
 * 20:21:33 <Dantman|Sleepy> Dark skins only work when the wiki is the one doing the dark customization
 * 20:21:35 <Simonrjh> i cant remember now, but i didnt like it
 * 20:21:37 <PanSola> like a #shade class
 * 20:21:49 <PanSola> that uses different background color on light backgrounds vs dark backgrounds
 * 20:22:02 <Dantman|Sleepy> Actually... I was thinking of a dark-mod for my Box class...
 * 20:22:33 <PanSola> Simon_rjh: can you take a look again to help provide feedback on it?
 * 20:22:40 <Simonrjh> k
 * 20:22:49 <Dantman|Sleepy> Basically any of Wikia ACG's wiki using a custom skin with a dark content area would include that in the skin to have the color classes fliped to work with dark content.
 * 20:23:00 * Relentless|Away	joined #wikia-gaming
 * 20:23:02 <Relentless|Away> Whoa.
 * 20:23:06 <Phil_E> hi Relentless|Away
 * 20:23:10 * Relentless|Away waves.
 * 20:23:31 <Relentless|Away> I sense I'm late.
 * 20:23:32 <Dantman|Sleepy> But even if I do that... the Gaming skin will still be ruined because we can't introduce the include into the Gaming skin's CSS
 * 20:23:33 <PanSola> hehe
 * 20:23:36 <Phil_E> not too much
 * 20:23:38 <Phil_E> :)
 * 20:23:50 <Relentless|Away> http://rainbowsix.wikia.com looks pretty good.
 * 20:23:58 <PanSola> Relentless|Away: we are collectiong feedback for the gaming theme right now
 * 20:24:00 <Relentless|Away> We adopted the Gaming Quartz with Halopedia's main page layout.
 * 20:24:11 <Relentless|Away> Well then a bravo zulu to the dudes that made the theme! =
 * 20:24:12 <Relentless|Away> =]
 * 20:24:14 <PanSola> nice
 * 20:24:21 <Dantman|Sleepy> What I'd like is a 'dark' class inside the body tag
 * 20:24:27 <Kirkburn> Regarding light and dark skins - WoWWiki has been converted to allow both over the past few months
 * 20:24:40 <Dantman|Sleepy> ...Whenever on a skin which is noted as dark
 * 20:24:43 * Relentless|Away likes dark better.
 * 20:24:50 <Simonrjh> i dont like halopedia's default skin
 * 20:24:50 <Kirkburn> nearly all our tables are "class="darktable" ... and we design them differently in the CSS
 * 20:24:52 * ChurchReborn	joined #wikia-gaming
 * 20:24:58 * Relentless|Away nods at Simonrjh sleepily.
 * 20:25:01 * PanSola has an idea - separating the content theme from teh interface theme
 * 20:25:07 <Relentless|Away> I'd like to have Halopedia have just normal Gaming.
 * 20:25:09 <Simonrjh> i prefer white background, black text
 * 20:25:10 <Phil_E> Simonrjh: the one with the battle at the top?
 * 20:25:17 <Phil_E> oh
 * 20:25:22 <Simonrjh> erm...yeah
 * 20:25:24 <Relentless|Away> I'd prefer dark bg with white text.
 * 20:25:30 <Phil_E> i like the one we have now, the custom one
 * 20:25:34 <Relentless|Away> stylistic.
 * 20:25:45 <PanSola> ChurchReborn: current topic: feedback on gaming theme
 * 20:25:46 * Phil_E uses the ooold style though
 * 20:25:52 <Simonrjh> me 2
 * 20:26:03 <Phil_E> with the text in the background, monobook
 * 20:26:42 <Simonrjh> mine has halo 3 multiplayer pics behind
 * 20:26:49 <Phil_E> oh
 * 20:26:50 <Relentless|Away> What's your GT, Simon?
 * 20:26:55 <Phil_E> the one GPT made?
 * 20:26:58 <Simonrjh> simon rjh
 * 20:27:08 <Simonrjh> xD surprise
 * 20:27:11 <PanSola> any other feedback on the gaming theme?
 * 20:28:04 <PanSola> ok, next topic:
 * 20:28:19 <Relentless|Away> Eh?
 * 20:28:20 <PanSola> how can we keep bringing people back to the Gaming hub on central Wikia?
 * 20:28:25 <Relentless|Away> There's no need?
 * 20:28:29 <PanSola> last week a few ideas where tossed around
 * 20:28:33 <Relentless|Away> We should list it on NavLinks.
 * 20:28:48 <Relentless|Away> Except it doesn't work on Halopedia.
 * 20:29:01 <PanSola> doens't work as in no one uses it, or something is broken?
 * 20:29:01 <Kirkburn> What doesn't?
 * 20:29:14 <Dantman|Sleepy> Well... on Wikia ACG we have every wiki in the project with a section in the sidebar
 * 20:29:24 <Relentless|Away> MediaWiki:NavLinks does not work on Halopedia on our current skin.
 * 20:29:28 <Relentless|Away> Physically.
 * 20:29:34 <PanSola> hmm
 * 20:29:37 <Phil_E> well we should switch back to monobook then :P
 * 20:29:38 <Simonrjh> this seems like the right channel to ask this: Anyone interested in Crackdown? cos it has a wikia with very few members :s
 * 20:29:39 <PanSola> did you guys report it already?
 * 20:29:47 <Otter-Man> ack, i'm lagging STILL
 * 20:29:48 <Relentless|Away> I whined to Sannse awhile back.
 * 20:29:50 <Otter-Man> brb
 * 20:29:52 * Otter-Man	left #wikia-gaming
 * 20:29:52 <PanSola> ok
 * 20:29:54 <Relentless|Away> Like several weeks ago.
 * 20:29:57 <PanSola> ouch
 * 20:29:58 <Kirkburn> Relentless|Away, have you tried adding something to it?
 * 20:30:02 <Kirkburn> It wasn't enabled!
 * 20:30:07 <PanSola> well several weeks ago it wasn't supposed to work yet I think
 * 20:30:09 <Relentless|Away> Kirkburn: I added something, didn't I?
 * 20:30:16 <Kirkburn> No, there's nothing there
 * 20:30:31 <Kirkburn> In fact, it's never been edited according to the page itself
 * 20:30:42 <Relentless|Away> http://halo.wikia.com/wiki/MediaWiki:NavLinks <-- ?
 * 20:30:46 <Kirkburn> Yep
 * 20:30:51 <Kirkburn> no, Navlinks
 * 20:31:02 <Relentless|Away> Oh LOL.
 * 20:31:05 <PanSola> heh
 * 20:31:14 * Relentless|Away chuckles.
 * 20:31:20 <Relentless|Away> Damn Quartz helppage.
 * 20:31:21 <Kirkburn> Add a second section, under *2
 * 20:31:39 <Relentless|Away> oops.
 * 20:31:46 <Kirkburn> http://bioshock.wikia.com/wiki/MediaWiki:Navlinks <-- example
 * 20:31:55 <PanSola> well the idea of the Gaming hub is to be able to help more wikis getting attentioned
 * 20:32:02 <Relentless|Away> PanSola: Add it to all Navlinks
 * 20:32:12 <PanSola> things like MW:Sidebar and MW:Navlinks and the footer are all kinda limited
 * 20:32:17 <Phil_E> maybe a Wikia Message?
 * 20:32:20 <PanSola> and depends on each wiki's admin to implement/update
 * 20:32:36 <Dantman|Sleepy> ^_^ Why do you think Wikia ACG uses a lot of bots...
 * 20:32:37 <PanSola> the hub would be something centralized and can get mroe wikis covered
 * 20:32:50 <PanSola> Dantman|Sleepy: I don't think
 * 20:33:01 <Relentless|Away> PanSola: You can't impliment it to all Navlinks by default?
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 * 20:33:09 <Relentless|Away> i think it's an easily marketable way.
 * 20:33:19 <PanSola> Relentless|Away: well teh hub itself can be linked from the navlink
 * 20:33:26 <Relentless|Away> Good.
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 * 20:33:33 <Dantman|Sleepy> Erm...
 * 20:33:35 <PanSola> but the question here is: how we can keep bringing people *back* to the hub
 * 20:33:58 <PanSola> right now with most hubs, after a visiter has seen it once, the visitor probably wouldn't be interested in going back
 * 20:34:10 <Dantman|Sleepy> The hub is already in the breadcrumbs... Why would people click on it in the Navlinks on the same level...
 * 20:34:15 <PanSola> the question is how do we make the hub *interesting* so people actually want to go back to it
 * 20:34:25 <Relentless|Away> Oh!
 * 20:34:28 <Phil_E> wikia spotlight?
 * 20:34:40 <Kirkburn> Spotlight sounds sensible to me
 * 20:34:40 * Relentless|Away gets PanSola.
 * 20:34:59 <Relentless|Away> How do we get the hub interesting?
 * 20:35:03 <PanSola> yeah
 * 20:35:05 <Relentless|Away> Link me to the hub again?
 * 20:35:12 <PanSola> www.wikia.com/wiki/Gaming
 * 20:35:17 <Relentless|Away> http://halo.wikia.com/wiki/MediaWiki:Navlinks <--and how did I mess up again?
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 * 20:35:23 <Relentless|Away> nvm
 * 20:35:24 <Relentless|Away> it works
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 * 20:35:54 <PanSola> so some of the recent changes I've done: I added some stats about which wikis are doing well in terms of growth
 * 20:36:07 <Relentless|Away> A good idea, PanSola.
 * 20:36:14 <Relentless|Away> How did you get those stats anyways?
 * 20:36:16 <PanSola> the "what's hot" section kinda allows any wiki to get to the top of the hub if soemthing interesting is going on overthere
 * 20:36:31 <PanSola> (if your game has a halloween celebration, added it to the hub!)
 * 20:36:45 <PanSola> some of hte ideas tossed around last week include:
 * 20:36:58 <PanSola> * Featured gaming wikia (new one every month or bi-weekly)
 * 20:37:03 <Relentless|Away> PanSola, I think we might want to reenovate some of the 'top' games.
 * 20:37:10 <Relentless|Away> And feature them, make it exciting.
 * 20:37:26 <PanSola> * Interviews with wikia users, ask them what interests them, what brought them to wikia etc
 * 20:37:29 <Relentless|Away> For example, the popular X360 games in the U.S., which is the predominate...
 * 20:37:32 <PanSola> for that we need interviewrs and interviewees
 * 20:37:38 <Relentless|Away> ...gaming base in the world, IMHO.
 * 20:37:43 <Relentless|Away> I'm not sure interviews would be attractive.
 * 20:37:53 <Charitwo> speaking of featured wikia, FFXIclopedia got the most votes but nobody followed up for the front page blip :/
 * 20:37:54 <Relentless|Away> However, news of top games and recent leaks, etc... for those games might be.
 * 20:38:00 <Relentless|Away> It's like why people always go to ign.com.
 * 20:38:09 <PanSola> Charitwo: the front page is not editable right now
 * 20:38:11 <Phil_E> hmm
 * 20:38:17 <PanSola> hasn't been since July
 * 20:38:23 <Phil_E> and maybe more in-depth info on the appropriate wikia?
 * 20:38:31 <Relentless|Away> I think if you want to popularize the hub...
 * 20:38:34 <Relentless|Away> Have a link to the wikia.
 * 20:38:37 <Relentless|Away> But just have the game.
 * 20:38:41 <Relentless|Away> Kids care about the game, not the wikia.
 * 20:38:49 <Relentless|Away> However, it will always bring people back to the hub.
 * 20:38:56 <Relentless|Away> My two-cent rant.
 * 20:38:59 <PanSola> hmm
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 * 20:39:07 <PanSola> hi skill
 * 20:39:14 <Skill> got the time wrong ^^
 * 20:39:17 <Relentless|Away> I'd be glad to try help update the hub if it goes through, PanSola.
 * 20:39:19 <PanSola> hehe it's alright
 * 20:39:24 <PanSola> Relentless|Away: thanks
 * 20:39:38 <PanSola> hmm
 * 20:39:47 <PanSola> so can the news be used to promote the respective wiki?
 * 20:39:58 <Phil_E> i think so
 * 20:40:12 <Relentless|Away> PanSola: At the very end.
 * 20:40:17 <Phil_E> like a little snippet on the hub, and full, in-depth coverage on the appropriate wiki
 * 20:40:19 <Relentless|Away> I think that there are two aims you need to clarify between:
 * 20:40:25 <Relentless|Away> 1. popularizing the hub
 * 20:40:32 <Relentless|Away> 2. popularizing the subordinate wikia wiki
 * 20:40:42 <Relentless|Away> If you want the hub to be attractive, I'd image the following:
 * 20:40:51 <Relentless|Away> The hub page would have a main section with 3-5 pictures.
 * 20:41:07 <Relentless|Away> Each will have a 3-5 word caption underneath with the name of the game.
 * 20:41:17 <Relentless|Away> Something like "Halo 3 Expansion Planned" as the caption
 * 20:41:18 <Phil_E> you'd image it? d:
 * 20:41:40 <Relentless|Away> And people could click on the caption to a few paragraphs talking about this news and then at the end 1-2 sentences about the wikia.
 * 20:42:01 <PanSola> um, so the few paragraphs are gonna be an article on central?
 * 20:42:11 <Relentless|Away> PanSola: That works.
 * 20:42:13 <PanSola> cool
 * 20:42:21 <PanSola> we have the Gaming lounge forum
 * 20:42:26 <PanSola> we can utilize it
 * 20:42:37 <PanSola> get people to talk about the game on there too if they wanna
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 * 20:42:42 <Relentless|Away> That works as well, PanSola.
 * 20:42:46 <Simonrjh> hi
 * 20:42:46 <Jack_Phoenix> rar
 * 20:42:47 <Phil_E> rar Jack_Phoenix
 * 20:42:48 <Relentless|Away> Anyways, how does my proposal sound?
 * 20:42:50 * Jack_Phoenix rars
 * 20:42:57 <PanSola> sounds good
 * 20:43:05 <Relentless|Away> Excellent.
 * 20:43:08 <PanSola> how much space do you tihnk it's gonna endu p taking?
 * 20:43:26 <PanSola> the main objective of the hub *is* to popularize the subordinate wikis
 * 20:43:36 <Relentless|Away> lol
 * 20:43:40 <Relentless|Away> Catch 23.
 * 20:43:41 <PanSola> we can't sacrifice 2 too much
 * 20:43:49 <Relentless|Away> Between What's Hot to The Hits.
 * 20:43:55 <Relentless|Away> I think if users are interested to read the paragraph...
 * 20:43:57 <PanSola> we want to bring people back to the hub *SO* the other wikis get exposure
 * 20:43:59 <Relentless|Away> It'll draw them to the wiki.
 * 20:44:06 <Relentless|Away> That's my belief.
 * 20:44:11 <PanSola> k
 * 20:44:19 <Relentless|Away> What's Hot and Weekly Stats might not appeal to hardcore gamers.
 * 20:44:29 <Relentless|Away> Those that just want news on their games and want to know what they want to buy next.
 * 20:44:47 <PanSola> hmm
 * 20:45:01 <Relentless|Away> With all due respect, sir.
 * 20:45:08 <Relentless|Away> I'm just imaging it from the context of gamers.
 * 20:45:17 <Relentless|Away> Only Wikia editors might say "ooh, HL2 Wikia is doing well!"
 * 20:45:19 * PanSola isn't sure if teh Gaming hub is primarily aimed at existing gamers who are users of an existing gaming wikia already, or random gamers from outside wikia
 * 20:45:40 <Relentless|Away> I'd think if Angies's Gaming project would be to expand, it'd draw non-Wikia editors.
 * 20:45:49 <PanSola> I'll ask the Powers That Be (tm) the next time I got the chance
 * 20:45:58 <Relentless|Away> We've had dozens of H3 gamers come onto Halopedia in the last few days that weren't new editors.
 * 20:46:01 <Relentless|Away> *were
 * 20:46:04 <Relentless|Away> PanSola: Excellent.
 * 20:46:09 <Relentless|Away> Any other questions? :P
 * 20:46:16 <PanSola> polls?
 * 20:46:22 <PanSola> that's another idea tossed around last week
 * 20:46:28 <PanSola> to have polls on the hub
 * 20:46:31 <Relentless|Away> Not sure how that'd appeal to a gamer.
 * 20:46:37 <Relentless|Away> A possibility though.
 * 20:46:41 <Relentless|Away> Polls for their top game?
 * 20:46:50 <Relentless|Away> And when they vote they can say some words supporting why?
 * 20:47:06 <PanSola> hm
 * 20:47:09 <Relentless|Away> And when they go to that second page they can have links to the Wikia like in spotlight fashion.
 * 20:47:22 <PanSola> btw, people other than Relentless|Away: feel free to voice your thoughts too...
 * 20:47:27 <Phil_E> :P
 * 20:47:43 <Jack_Phoenix> haha :P
 * 20:47:45 <Jack_Phoenix> so, erm
 * 20:47:46 <Simonrjh> ;|
 * 20:47:49 <Jack_Phoenix> what's the topic? :)
 * 20:47:49 <Simonrjh> :|
 * 20:47:50 * Relentless|Away chuckles.
 * 20:47:58 <PanSola> the built-in poll extension only allows people to vote but not comment right?
 * 20:48:03 <Jack_Phoenix> yep
 * 20:48:04 <Relentless|Away> That is correct.
 * 20:48:04 <Phil_E> yeah
 * 20:48:06 <Relentless|Away> The tag.
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 * 20:48:18 <Relentless|Away> PanSola, my idea is to modernize the hub into something more open.
 * 20:48:21 * Charitwo hugs GPT.
 * 20:48:23 <Relentless|Away> Something accessible to all hardcore gamers.
 * 20:48:29 <Relentless|Away> And not exclusively editors.
 * 20:48:33 * GPT hugs Charitwo
 * 20:48:35 <PanSola> Jack_Phoenix: generally, on how we can make the [www.wikia.com/wiki/Gaming] hub appealing to people so they keep goig back
 * 20:48:37 <Relentless|Away> No matter what you do you will retain the editors.
 * 20:48:46 <PanSola> specifically, on the idea of using polls to draw interest
 * 20:48:48 <Relentless|Away> What you do, however, will determine how you allure hardcore fans.
 * 20:48:53 <Jack_Phoenix> hmm
 * 20:49:07 <Relentless|Away> If gamers are hardcore enough, they'll snoop the games contained in the polls or the news release paragraphs.
 * 20:49:14 <Relentless|Away> Sir.
 * 20:49:21 <PanSola> hi GPT
 * 20:49:32 <GPT> hi... what's the current topic of discussion?
 * 20:49:32 <Relentless|Away> Hiya GPT.
 * 20:49:35 <Jack_Phoenix> PanSola: the gaming logo looks a bit bad on IE7...I'll take a screenshot soon
 * 20:50:03 <PanSola> thanks
 * 20:50:13 <PanSola> GPT: generally, on how we can make the [www.wikia.com/wiki/Gaming] hub appealing to people so they keep goig back
 * 20:50:17 <PanSola> specifically, on the idea of using polls to draw interest
 * 20:50:40 <PanSola> Dantman|Sleepy: you think you can hackup something that allows people to vote *and* comment?
 * 20:50:43 <Relentless|Away> PanSola, comments on my forum idea? :P
 * 20:50:48 <Relentless|Away> I'm just thinking this...
 * 20:50:51 <Phil_E> how about polls on favorite games?
 * 20:50:54 <Dantman|Sleepy> Erm.... no...
 * 20:50:55 <Relentless|Away> We have the poll application, and underneath something that says...
 * 20:50:57 <PanSola> what's yoru forum idea?
 * 20:50:59 <Relentless|Away> "Comment on it"
 * 20:51:03 <PanSola> oh
 * 20:51:08 <Dantman|Sleepy> Or well in that case...
 * 20:51:10 <PanSola> hmm
 * 20:51:15 <Relentless|Away> Or once the poll page refreshes, it takes 'em to the forum page.
 * 20:51:17 <PanSola> maybe we shold invade Gaming.wikia.com
 * 20:51:21 <PanSola> they kinda have the mechanism to do it
 * 20:51:22 <Jack_Phoenix> PanSola: http://staff.jackphoenix.com/staff/images/0/01/Gaming.png
 * 20:51:26 <Jack_Phoenix> yay invasion \o/
 * 20:51:27 <Dantman|Sleepy> All it would take would be a transcluded page with an edit button...
 * 20:51:54 * Relentless|Away nods at the general direction of Dantman's tech-pervasiveness. :P
 * 20:51:56 <PanSola> oops Jack_Phoenix: I forgot to check it on monobook
 * 20:52:02 <PanSola> it was designed with quarze
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 * 20:52:15 <Relentless|Away> PanSola: Does it sound feasible?
 * 20:52:17 * Phil_E is now known as Phil_E|Lunch
 * 20:52:22 <Phil_E|Lunch> brb
 * 20:52:22 <Jack_Phoenix> meh - if you can come up with a fix, that would be nice, but not neccessary :)
 * 20:52:41 <Dantman|Sleepy> I haven't touched the Poll extension in awhile...
 * 20:52:43 <PanSola> Relentless|Away: well it might be beyond my ability
 * 20:52:48 <PanSola> we want the poll on the hub itself
 * 20:52:49 <Dantman|Sleepy> Where do you want me to try it?
 * 20:53:07 <PanSola> so... inside w:Forum:Gaming lounge we have an article with poll and area for comment
 * 20:53:12 <PanSola> then tranclude it on the hub?
 * 20:53:12 <Relentless|Away> PanSola: So maybe...
 * 20:53:15 <Relentless|Away> Aha!
 * 20:53:18 <PanSola> yeah we'll give it a shot
 * 20:53:30 <Relentless|Away> We can have to the left and center of the top of the hub...
 * 20:53:36 <Relentless|Away> The three pictures, one for each release.
 * 20:53:39 <Relentless|Away> And the caption underneath.
 * 20:53:43 <Relentless|Away> To the right we can have a small poll.
 * 20:53:58 <Relentless|Away> Therefore, we'l lstill have space underneath for the other stuffelz.
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 * 20:54:18 <GPT> rar Forerunner
 * 20:54:25 <Forerunner> erm...hi
 * 20:54:38 <GPT> hi! =D
 * 20:54:40 <Relentless|Away> PanSola: I'm thinking of two releases.
 * 20:54:47 <Relentless|Away> But that might be kind of limiting, y'know?
 * 20:54:59 <Relentless|Away> I think 3 would nicely showcase it, but the image size will have to be limited to include a rightside poll.
 * 20:55:15 <Relentless|Away> 'it' as in the current gaming environment.
 * 20:55:23 <Relentless|Away> No clue how the tech stuffelz will work out though.
 * 20:55:32 <Relentless|Away> On Halopedia I just toss the tech stuff to GPT & Co. :P
 * 20:55:49 <GPT> (Co. means the voices in my head)
 * 20:56:13 <Simonrjh> GPT: lol
 * 20:57:25 <PanSola> anhyways, do we have a volulnteer to come up with poll questions that will interest gamers?
 * 20:57:54 <Relentless|Away> PanSola: My idea was...
 * 20:58:02 <Relentless|Away> "Which is your favorite upcoming game?"
 * 20:58:06 <Relentless|Away> Or something equally controversial.
 * 20:58:13 <Relentless|Away> If it's controversial, they'll be sure to comment.
 * 20:58:17 <Relentless|Away> And thus be attractive.
 * 20:58:24 <Relentless|Away> Mundane Qs won't get the desired effect.
 * 20:58:25 <PanSola> hmm
 * 20:58:28 <Relentless|Away> Like perhaps a rivalry question?
 * 20:58:32 <PanSola> well taht's one single poll question
 * 20:58:33 <Relentless|Away> Xbox 360, PS3, or Wii?
 * 20:58:37 <PanSola> cool
 * 20:58:40 <PanSola> two
 * 20:58:43 <Simonrjh> that wd make comments
 * 20:58:43 <Relentless|Away> Or Halo 3, Guitar Hero II, or BioSchock?
 * 20:58:45 <Relentless|Away> U'know>
 * 20:58:46 <GPT> favorite game Qs aren't controversial, you know...
 * 20:58:51 <Forerunner> well i have usergroups
 * 20:58:53 <Forerunner> LOADS
 * 20:58:54 <Relentless|Away> GPT: See Bungie.net and Ign.com. =]
 * 20:58:54 <PanSola> do you think we can have a new poll every week? or bi-weekly?
 * 20:59:02 <Relentless|Away> PanSola: Biweekly works.
 * 20:59:10 <Jack_Phoenix> bi-weekly has my vote
 * 20:59:11 <Forerunner> anyone want 2 join them/
 * 20:59:13 <GPT> Relentless|Away, I prefer to base my opinion off of better sources than B.net and IGN.
 * 20:59:17 <PanSola> you think there are enough quesitons to ask every two weeks?
 * 20:59:25 <GPT> yes
 * 20:59:35 <PanSola> k
 * 20:59:37 <Relentless|Away> PanSola: Probably.
 * 20:59:40 <Relentless|Away> There are a lot of new games.
 * 20:59:44 <Relentless|Away> GPT: Based on my friends then. :P
 * 20:59:48 * Skill has quit
 * 21:00:04 * GPT is RR's only friend, so /me's opinion wins. \o/
 * 21:00:09 <PanSola> on the topic of polls
 * 21:00:25 <PanSola> who here is excited about: Fury, Hellgate, Assassin's Creed, Crysis, Mass Effect?
 * 21:00:26 * Relentless|Away fervently disagrees with GPT.
 * 21:00:33 <Relentless|Away> PanSola: Uhh...
 * 21:00:35 <Relentless|Away> None of the above.
 * 21:00:38 <PanSola> heh
 * 21:00:47 <Relentless|Away> Most X360 games aren't that popular when they're new.
 * 21:00:54 <Relentless|Away> With a poll, I'd suggest:
 * 21:00:56 <Relentless|Away> 1. Halo 3
 * 21:00:58 <Relentless|Away> 2. Bioshock
 * 21:01:01 <Relentless|Away> 3. Guitar Hero II
 * 21:01:05 <Relentless|Away> 4. Gears of War
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 * 21:01:15 <Jack_Phoenix> Relentless|Away: you forgot all Wii games :P
 * 21:01:21 <PanSola> well the question I just asked is for existing wikis that need editors/admins for seeding adn welcomign pepole
 * 21:01:25 <Relentless|Away> They're all pretty big games that appeal to a wide variety of X360 gamers.
 * 21:01:31 <GPT> Mass Effect has enough popularity for someone to have started a topic on Halopedia's "Other Games" forum. none of us are too excited about it, but there are a few fans, AFAIK.
 * 21:01:32 <PanSola> so when new gamers find those wikis, they don't look too empty
 * 21:02:33 <Relentless|Away> I don't like to administrate gaming wikias with games I don't have.
 * 21:02:41 <PanSola> haha
 * 21:02:56 <Relentless|Away> Or games I don't like. lol. :P
 * 21:03:04 <PanSola> fair enough q-:
 * 21:03:16 <Relentless|Away> PanSola, anyways, I'll need to get going soon.
 * 21:03:28 <Relentless|Away> Is there a time/place/modicum that we could chat later about this idea?
 * 21:03:32 <Relentless|Away> I'm very interested in it.
 * 21:03:34 <PanSola> yeah
 * 21:03:41 <PanSola> well there's the Gaming lounce forum on central
 * 21:03:48 <PanSola> and i hang out here quite often
 * 21:03:54 <Relentless|Away> Great.
 * 21:04:05 <PanSola> not quite up to the 25 horus a day or even 12 hours a day standard
 * 21:04:09 <Relentless|Away> Is there a proposal to get my proposition into draft form tonight? :P
 * 21:04:14 <Phil_E> lol
 * 21:04:16 <Kirkburn> And I *always* hang out here, I'm just often busy with WoWWiki-ness :)
 * 21:04:18 <PanSola> well the hub is a wiki page
 * 21:04:20 <PanSola> be bold
 * 21:04:39 <Relentless|Away> LOL.
 * 21:05:02 <PanSola> or if you aren't sure, do something like Gaming/RR Draft1
 * 21:05:06 <Kirkburn> PanSola, reminds me of the time I have to stop myself typing ~ on normal forums :P
 * 21:05:15 * Phil_E coughs
 * 21:05:15 <Relentless|Away> :P
 * 21:05:23 <PanSola> I sign my emails with -~
 * 21:05:25 <Kirkburn> Ooh, I have an idea
 * 21:05:35 <GPT> PanSola, I do too
 * 21:05:36 <Relentless|Away> Eh, same.
 * 21:05:40 <PanSola> Kirkburn: yes we welcome ideas
 * 21:05:41 <Phil_E> Relentless|Away: w:Forum:Wikia is plural of Wikia
 * 21:05:50 * Relentless|Away glares at Phil. :P
 * 21:06:00 * GPT hugs at Phil. D:
 * 21:06:01 * Phil_E #REDIRECTs glare to forum
 * 21:06:02 <Kirkburn> For the links, I know friendly bot to auto link for us :)
 * 21:06:07 <Phil_E> :D
 * 21:06:49 <PanSola> Kirkburn: you mean linking from individual wikis to the hub or something else?
 * 21:06:54 * Relentless|Away is now known as Relentless|g2g
 * 21:06:55 * Relentless|g2g has quit ("Leaving")
 * 21:07:15 <Kirkburn> PanSola, nah, a bot for here that can autolink this style link
 * 21:07:26 <PanSola> you lost me
 * 21:07:37 <PanSola> a bot for IRC that can autolink something?
 * 21:07:52 <Kirkburn> aye
 * 21:08:16 <PanSola> I'll clarify it with you later...
 * 21:08:23 * PanSola is still muddled
 * 21:08:26 <Phil_E> there's a script like that somewhere on wikipedia...
 * 21:08:26 <Kirkburn> It'll arrive shortly :P
 * 21:08:54 * [NewsBot]	joined #wikia-gaming
 * 21:09:04 <Kirkburn> And hello there [NewsBot]
 * 21:09:05 <PanSola> hi NewsBot, so what exactly do you do?
 * 21:09:13 * GPT hugs [NewsBot]
 * 21:09:23 <Kirkburn> About Wikia
 * 21:09:23 <[NewsBot]> Kirkburn meant: http://www.wikia.com/wiki/About_Wikia
 * 21:09:35 <PanSola> huh?
 * 21:09:39 <GPT> kewl!
 * 21:09:51 <PanSola> ah
 * 21:09:53 <Phil_E> O_O
 * 21:09:56 <Phil_E> Wikia
 * 21:09:57 <[NewsBot]> Phil_E meant: http://www.wikia.com/wiki/Wikia
 * 21:09:58 <[NewsBot]> i post news from feeds aswell if you want some spam
 * 21:09:59 <PanSola> w:c:GuildWars
 * 21:10:01 <[NewsBot]> PanSola meant: http://www.wikia.com/wiki/w:c:GuildWars
 * 21:10:02 <GPT> User:Guesty-Persony-Thingy is better than Wikia
 * 21:10:02 <[NewsBot]> GPT meant: http://www.wikia.com/wiki/User:Guesty-Persony-Thingy
 * 21:10:04 <Phil_E> nice!
 * 21:10:11 <GPT> !bAH, doens't multi-link
 * 21:10:12 <PanSola> ok, stop playing with it
 * 21:10:15 <Phil_E> lol
 * 21:10:18 <GPT> NO!!!
 * 21:10:19 <[NewsBot]> GPT meant: http://www.wikia.com/wiki/NO!!!
 * 21:10:24 <Jack_Phoenix> lol
 * 21:10:24 <PanSola> Featured Gaming wikis
 * 21:10:30 <[NewsBot]> GPT nah there are some quirks with the regex :/
 * 21:10:32 <PanSola> next topic
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 * 21:10:44 <PanSola> hi Otter
 * 21:10:46 <PanSola> welcome back
 * 21:10:55 <Otter-Man> yay
 * 21:11:09 <PanSola> one of hte ideas last week was to have a Featured Gaming wikia on the hub
 * 21:11:11 <Otter-Man> hang on...gonna change nick
 * 21:11:17 * Otter-Man is now known as Otter|Cacodemon
 * 21:11:27 <PanSola> two issues:
 * 21:11:31 * GPT eats Cacodemons for breakfast
 * 21:11:32 <PanSola> 1. we need to decide how often it rotates
 * 21:11:41 <PanSola> 2. we need nominations
 * 21:11:58 <GPT> 1. I suggest fortnightly rotations.
 * 21:12:07 <Phil_E> yeah
 * 21:12:31 <Kirkburn> I agree
 * 21:12:55 <Kirkburn> What do we base nominations on?
 * 21:13:14 <GPT> content/community, for starters
 * 21:13:14 <PanSola> kirk: what do you mean?
 * 21:13:18 <PanSola> oh
 * 21:13:41 <PanSola> see Featured gaming wikia
 * 21:14:03 <Kirkburn> only works when it started a line :P
 * 21:14:26 <PanSola> well I expect wikians like you can type the url directly
 * 21:14:29 <PanSola> d-:
 * 21:14:37 <PanSola> do we have a volulnteer to come up with poll questions that will interest gamers?
 * 21:14:38 <Kirkburn> hehe
 * 21:14:41 <PanSola> oops wrong copy
 * 21:14:46 <PanSola> http://www.wikia.com/wiki/Featured_gaming_wikia
 * 21:14:49 <GPT> lol
 * 21:15:07 <Kirkburn> Ah, cool, I see
 * 21:15:26 <PanSola> I copied most of it from the main Featured Wikia article
 * 21:16:26 <PanSola> so, anyone have any gaming wikis they want to nominate for the first feature?
 * 21:16:34 <Phil_E> Wii Wiki?
 * 21:16:47 <Jack_Phoenix> \o
 * 21:16:49 <Kirkburn> Dinner calls, be back in a bit
 * 21:16:51 <PanSola> cool, write a blurb for it (-:
 * 21:16:58 * Kirkburn sets mode -e Kirkburn
 * 21:16:58 * You are now known as Kirkburn|afk
 * 21:16:59 * services. sets mode +e Kirkburn|afk
 * 21:17:02 <PanSola> Kirkburn: can't you hangup on dinner?
 * 21:17:07 <Kirkburn|afk> Sorry, no :(
 * 21:17:23 <Kirkburn|afk> Shouldn't be tooo long
 * 21:17:40 <PanSola> anyone else want to nominate another wiki?
 * 21:17:44 <PanSola> for some competition? d-:
 * 21:17:47 <Phil_E> me write the blurb?
 * 21:17:48 <GPT> I'll nominate Pfhorpedia in a few days
 * 21:17:51 <PanSola> ok
 * 21:17:58 <PanSola> Phil_E: or you can get someone else write the blurb
 * 21:18:06 <Phil_E> kk
 * 21:18:10 <PanSola> the blurb isn't just introducing your wiki, but also why you think it should be featured
 * 21:18:21 <Dantman|Sleepy> AliceSoftWiki!!!
 * 21:18:36 <PanSola> Dantman|Sleepy: you wannt write a blurb for that one?
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 * 21:19:14 <Dantman|Sleepy> ^_^ Nah... Afker might... I just thought it would be ammusing to have a wiki about eroge as one of the first features... rofl
 * 21:19:26 <PanSola> heh
 * 21:20:00 <PanSola> Dantman|Sleepy: anything else from the ACG (with enough gaming emphasis) that you think are featureable?
 * 21:20:12 <PanSola> and go poke the admins of those wikis to write a blurb?
 * 21:20:43 <Dantman|Sleepy> ^_^ Admins of Wikia ACG wiki... 90% of those wiki are administrated by me... lol
 * 21:20:48 <Dantman|Sleepy> Ummm
 * 21:20:55 <PanSola> heh
 * 21:20:56 <Dantman|Sleepy> The only ones I can think of...
 * 21:21:01 <PanSola> well self-pokes are always fun
 * 21:21:17 <Dantman|Sleepy> Other than the various naruto, and other wiki which just have games on the side...
 * 21:21:35 <PanSola> did Megaman join?
 * 21:21:39 <Dantman|Sleepy> AliceSoftWiki is the only one dedicated to that... Gundam might have a fair bit...
 * 21:21:46 * Simonrjh|H3	joined #wikia-gaming
 * 21:21:50 <PanSola> welcome back Simonrjh
 * 21:21:55 <Simonrjh|H3> howdy
 * 21:21:56 <Dantman|Sleepy> Nope... Mega Man and Yu-Gi-Oh! Are still pending confirmation...
 * 21:22:00 <ChurchReborn> wb.
 * 21:22:04 * Simonrjh|H3 is now known as Simon_rjh
 * 21:22:19 <PanSola> Simonrjh do you have any gaming wikis in mind that might be good for nominaton for Featured gaming wiki?
 * 21:22:22 <Dantman|Sleepy> Allong with a few other Animanga wiki which the founders who were there dissapeared...
 * 21:22:38 <PanSola> well yo don't need the fonder, or even the admin, to do it
 * 21:22:39 <Simon_rjh> i'm only a member of halo an crackdown
 * 21:22:41 <PanSola> to nominate
 * 21:22:44 <PanSola> anyone can nominate
 * 21:22:46 <Dantman|Sleepy> I know...
 * 21:22:58 <Dantman|Sleepy> I just mean we have a number on hold that never wen't through...
 * 21:23:12 <PanSola> oh
 * 21:23:34 <Forerunner> We need assistance on Dino Crisis Wiki
 * 21:23:43 <Forerunner> looks like no one else is editing it
 * 21:23:53 <PanSola> assassinstance as in need more contributors or in other aspectes?
 * 21:23:54 <Forerunner> and a Wikia that the community doesnt edit
 * 21:23:58 <Forerunner> isn't a good story
 * 21:23:59 <Simon_rjh> (and Crackdown)
 * 21:24:03 <PanSola> hmm
 * 21:24:04 <Forerunner> yes
 * 21:24:12 <Forerunner> 2 or 300 pages
 * 21:24:17 <Forerunner> already in existence
 * 21:24:32 <GPT> Forerunner, people won't edit wikis if they don't have content... work on Dino Crisis as much as you can, and advertise wherever you can without spamming. best way to get activity for *any* kind of site.
 * 21:25:08 <PanSola> ok, let's keep the featured gamign wikia in mind, everyone think about it and see if you can nudge ppl to nominate. Next topic: improvement drives
 * 21:25:24 <PanSola> how about having regular improvement drives on the hub so we all go help a particular wiki
 * 21:25:31 <PanSola> say this week we all go to Dino Crisis and help
 * 21:25:36 <PanSola> if I don't play the game I jsut help with grammer
 * 21:25:41 <Forerunner> yep
 * 21:25:45 <PanSola> or point out where the article makes no sense
 * 21:25:49 <Forerunner> it's just...
 * 21:26:13 <Forerunner> if few people edit a site... the admins eventualy loose faith
 * 21:26:15 <PanSola> of ocurse we need to build up traffic on the hub first for this idea to be effectibe
 * 21:26:17 <Forerunner> i keep editing
 * 21:26:25 <Forerunner> and even added a few links on Wikipedia
 * 21:26:29 * PanSola is losing spelling ability
 * 21:26:41 <Phil_E> lol
 * 21:27:00 <PanSola> Forerunner: are you actively involved in internet forums related to Dino Crisis?
 * 21:29:00 <PanSola> am I sitll connected to IRC?
 * 21:29:05 <PanSola> 2 minutes of silence...
 * 21:29:11 <GPT> ja
 * 21:29:12 <Charitwo> :O
 * 21:29:14 <PanSola> heh
 * 21:29:37 <PanSola> what do people think of a weekly Gaming-wikia-wide improvement drive?
 * 21:29:55 <GPT> \o
 * 21:29:57 <PanSola> it mgiht be to help out a particular wiki,
 * 21:30:12 <PanSola> or on some admin/founder guide that cna benefit all new wikis
 * 21:30:22 <Simon_rjh> i'm off to play some haloz
 * 21:30:24 <Simon_rjh> bye
 * 21:30:26 <GPT> bai
 * 21:30:27 * PanSola looks for a dull rusty fork to poke Forerunner with
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 * 21:30:31 <PanSola> see ya simon
 * 21:30:38 <GPT> PanSola, I think that would be a wondarful idear.
 * 21:31:22 <PanSola> do you think you can raise interest with halopedians at large to have a certain percentage of them to participate?
 * 21:31:52 <PanSola> or do you think it'd be just admins of various wikis who would be involved but that'd be enough?
 * 21:32:34 <GPT> welll... quite a few Halopedians have other games as well, and I know at least a couple participate in other wikis...
 * 21:32:56 <Forerunner> i like the idea of a weekly gaming wikia improvement drive
 * 21:33:09 <PanSola> Forerunner: are you actively involved in internet forums related to Dino Crisis?
 * 21:33:13 <GPT> if we can get some of them looking at the Hub more, too, though, at least some of them would probably help out the ID
 * 21:33:15 <Forerunner> i have one who says he's a halopedian
 * 21:34:05 <PanSola> cool
 * 21:34:54 <PanSola> hm
 * 21:35:07 <PanSola> so any other thoughts on how to draw interest to the hub?
 * 21:35:28 <Forerunner> nope
 * 21:35:29 <PanSola> most of these inter-wiki collaborations depend on the hub being successful
 * 21:35:38 <PanSola> that people repeatedly going back to
 * 21:36:04 <PanSola> what kind of info, that changes relatively frequently (at least bi-weekly), would be interesting to draw people back
 * 21:37:07 <Forerunner> Pictures
 * 21:37:10 <Forerunner> not just logos
 * 21:37:16 <PanSola> pictures of...?
 * 21:37:19 * Simonrjh has quit (Connection timed out)
 * 21:37:26 <Forerunner> hmm...
 * 21:37:37 <Forerunner> pics from Wikias in gaming
 * 21:38:14 <Jack_Phoenix> *Wikia
 * 21:38:16 <Forerunner> like a Halopedia Hunter killing a brute image
 * 21:38:18 <PanSola> haha
 * 21:38:20 <PanSola> hmm
 * 21:38:26 <Jack_Phoenix> http://www.wikia.com/wiki/Forum:Wikia_is_plural_of_Wikia ;-)
 * 21:38:30 <Forerunner> and a Runescape pic of a random event
 * 21:38:39 <PanSola> Dantman|Sleepy: does random images thing work on Wikia?
 * 21:38:46 <Forerunner> i used to say Wikia'
 * 21:38:48 <Dantman|Sleepy> Dunno...
 * 21:38:49 <Dantman|Sleepy> Though
 * 21:38:53 <Phil_E> Forum:Wikia is plural of Wikia
 * 21:38:53 <[NewsBot]> Phil_E meant: http://www.wikia.com/wiki/Forum:Wikia_is_plural_of_Wikia
 * 21:38:55 <Dantman|Sleepy> Lemme check something in DPL
 * 21:38:58 <Phil_E> yay :D
 * 21:39:44 * Charitwo is now known as Charitwo________
 * 21:40:09 * Charitwo________ is now known as Charitwo
 * 21:40:12 * Jack_Phoenix is now known as Wikia-Internal
 * 21:40:41 <PanSola> um
 * 21:40:47 <PanSola> stop changing nicks around please
 * 21:40:51 * Kirkburn|afk sets mode -e Kirkburn|afk
 * 21:40:51 * You are now known as Kirkburn
 * 21:40:51 * services. sets mode +e Kirkburn
 * 21:40:52 <Phil_E> lol
 * 21:40:52 <PanSola> it gets confuising
 * 21:40:56 <Phil_E> lool
 * 21:41:05 <Forerunner> DAMN
 * 21:41:09 <Phil_E> Kirkburn changed his nick right after :P
 * 21:41:12 <PanSola> yes Forerunner?
 * 21:41:12 <Forerunner> theres a bug on dino crisis
 * 21:41:16 * Charitwo is now known as Darth_Calculator
 * 21:41:17 <Kirkburn> Er, hello again
 * 21:41:18 <PanSola> squash it
 * 21:41:39 <Forerunner> each time i save changes it says i haven't typed anything
 * 21:41:45 <PanSola> o_O
 * 21:41:49 <Kirkburn> weird
 * 21:41:52 <PanSola> better let staff know about it
 * 21:41:58 <Forerunner> and going back to... This page has no text to you wish to edit
 * 21:42:05 <Forerunner> when i go back it's there
 * 21:42:17 <PanSola> are you using the WYSWYG editor
 * 21:42:21 <Forerunner> even stranger the recent changes special is like a minute off
 * 21:42:22 <PanSola> or the old school simple editor?
 * 21:42:35 <Forerunner> erm... Windows Explorer on a laptop
 * 21:42:47 <Forerunner> but a fast laptop
 * 21:42:49 * Darth_Calculator is now known as Charitwo
 * 21:42:58 <Forerunner> Windows Explorer 9.0
 * 21:43:01 <Phil_E> WYSIWYG editor?
 * 21:43:04 <Forerunner> ?
 * 21:43:07 <Forerunner> what's that
 * 21:43:15 <GPT> it's not the editor
 * 21:43:21 <GPT> the database is just being screwy.
 * 21:43:23 <Phil_E> how do you get that?
 * 21:43:27 <PanSola> ok
 * 21:43:33 <PanSola> GPT you are getting that too?
 * 21:43:37 <GPT> yes
 * 21:43:39 <Forerunner> yay i got one working
 * 21:43:43 <GPT> as is Tstarnes.
 * 21:43:53 <PanSola> you guys are letting the staff know about it right?
 * 21:44:04 <GPT> staff ain't online right now.
 * 21:44:26 * LO|Hereish	joined #wikia-gaming
 * 21:44:27 <Charitwo> staff are on strike on weekends ;) except maybe sannse on occasion
 * 21:44:29 <Wikia-Internal> actually...
 * 21:44:33 <Wikia-Internal> techs are idling
 * 21:44:35 <Wikia-Internal> most likely
 * 21:44:40 <Wikia-Internal> /whois Inez
 * 21:44:46 <Wikia-Internal> /whois Nefretete
 * 21:44:49 <Wikia-Internal> :)
 * 21:44:50 <PanSola> hi LO
 * 21:45:10 <PanSola> Dantman|Sleepy: you still looking into the DPL for random image?
 * 21:45:14 <Dantman|Sleepy> PanSola: Randomization is not built into DPL...
 * 21:45:26 <Dantman|Sleepy> But dpl does interact with other extensions...
 * 21:45:28 * Wikia-Internal is now known as RougeAdmin
 * 21:45:30 <PanSola> can randomization outside of DPL be feed itno it?
 * 21:45:32 <PanSola> yeah
 * 21:45:36 <PanSola> ok
 * 21:45:41 <Dantman|Sleepy> I managed to hack up a combination of DPL and the Chosse extension
 * 21:45:56 <Dantman|Sleepy> http://www.wikia.com/index.php?title=Wikia:Sandbox&action=purge
 * 21:46:06 <PanSola> any other thoughts on drawing returning interest of visitors to the hub?
 * 21:47:20 <PanSola> any other issues any of the wikis face? (aside from database being screwy right now)
 * 21:48:05 <Phil_E> Mario wiki was facing some serious vandalism a while ago...
 * 21:48:17 <Phil_E> from supermariowiki.com members IIRC
 * 21:48:22 <PanSola> multi-source or one persistent kid?
 * 21:48:32 <Phil_E> only a few so far...
 * 21:48:42 <Phil_E> but i'm concerned it could escalate later on
 * 21:48:53 <PanSola> hmm
 * 21:49:10 <PanSola> what would be the trigger for escalation?
 * 21:49:24 <Charitwo> is it just me, or is stuff having a delay showing up in the logs
 * 21:49:29 <Phil_E> idk
 * 21:49:38 <Phil_E> maybe once we get more content or popularity
 * 21:49:56 <PanSola> how many regular editors do you have right now?
 * 21:50:04 <PanSola> Dantman|Sleepy: that works great
 * 21:50:07 <PanSola> teh random image
 * 21:50:20 <Dantman|Sleepy> oooh...
 * 21:50:32 <PanSola> Charitwo: as in recentchanges, or specifically the ban/upload/delete logs?
 * 21:50:32 <Phil_E> two or three
 * 21:50:36 <Dantman|Sleepy> ^_^ since you're done... I think I'm going to throw something fun in... rofl
 * 21:50:42 <Charitwo> all logs
 * 21:51:00 <PanSola> i'm not sure, I haven't done any wiki editing in the last 3 hours or so
 * 21:51:13 <Forerunner> it's ok on Resi wiki
 * 21:51:22 <PanSola> coudl be related to the database problem though
 * 21:51:43 <PanSola> looks like Memory alpha is alos having issues with RC
 * 21:51:56 <PanSola> anyways
 * 21:52:07 <PanSola> I'll get the chat transcript adn summary onto the central forum a bit later
 * 21:52:28 <PanSola> and we can use the forum to furthur collaborate on stuff like improvement drive and random image etc
 * 21:52:48 <PanSola> eeryone keep in mind to nominde or nudge others to nominate wikis for featured gaming wiki
 * 21:52:53 <PanSola> and feel free to just hang out in this channel
 * 21:53:03 <PanSola> I'm advertising it to new gaming wiki founders so some of them randomly hop on for help
 * 21:53:08 * GPT smacks PanSola
 * 21:53:10 <PanSola> but I'm not always at my keyboard to help them
 * 21:53:12 <PanSola> thanks for coming
 * 21:53:13 <PanSola> (-:
 * 21:53:20 * PanSola skcams GPT
 * 21:54:02 <PanSola> time for next week's group chat will be announced on the hub
 * 21:54:11 <Forerunner> ok
 * 21:54:51 <PanSola> Phil_E: have you been just reverting and bannig hte vandals, or have you (or your editors) been leaving messages for the vandals?
 * 21:55:09 <Phil_E> i've been doing the former
 * 21:55:12 <Forerunner> NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
 * 21:55:17 <PanSola> ?
 * 21:55:19 <Forerunner> The eroor's in Resi wiki
 * 21:55:23 <Forerunner> *error
 * 21:55:25 <Phil_E> the reverting and banning
 * 21:55:30 <Forerunner> ?
 * 21:55:40 <PanSola> k
 * 21:55:58 <PanSola> if your editors start leaving vandal message, that *might* be something that can escalate the problem
 * 21:56:07 <PanSola> because vandals might feel they are getting mroe attention
 * 21:56:17 <Charitwo> yea if they are obviously vandals you're giving them exactly what they want
 * 21:56:19 <PanSola> Forerunner: the Recent Changes problem?
 * 21:56:32 <PanSola> so just quitely reverting and banning is the best solution IMHO
 * 21:57:33 <Forerunner> G2G now
 * 21:57:36 <Forerunner> BYE
 * 21:57:38 <PanSola> see you
 * 21:57:40 * Forerunner has quit (Remote closed the connection)
 * 21:57:41 <PanSola> thanks for coming (-:
 * 21:57:46 <Dantman|Sleepy> OMG... O_O http://www.wikia.com/wiki/Image:Golden-forest-site-style.png
 * 21:58:07 <GPT> lol
 * 21:58:08 <PanSola> wikicities! Old Chool!
 * 21:58:13 <PanSola> (-:
 * 21:58:56 <Phil_E> :o
 * 21:59:09 <RougeAdmin> yay Wikicities \o/
 * 21:59:14 * LO|Hereish is now known as LO|Away
 * 21:59:24 * RougeAdmin remembers when Wikicities.com domains started redirecting to Wikia.com...
 * 21:59:59 <PanSola> it doesn't anymore?
 * 22:00:11 <Phil_E> aw
 * 22:00:19 * PanSola just checked, it still does
 * 22:00:22 <RougeAdmin> yeah
 * 22:00:28 <RougeAdmin> but back when it *started* ;)
 * 22:00:31 <PanSola> oh
 * 22:00:36 <RougeAdmin> :)
 * 22:00:43 <PanSola> well I remember back when wikicities.com doesn't even redirect to wikia.com yet
 * 22:00:45 * Dantman|Sleepy was not with Wikia at that time...
 * 22:00:53 <GPT> neither was /me
 * 22:00:57 * Phil_E eithet
 * 22:00:59 * PanSola feels old
 * 22:01:05 <Phil_E> *either
 * 22:01:06 * PanSola was a Wikicitizen
 * 22:01:06 <Phil_E> lol
 * 22:01:07 <Dantman|Sleepy> Bah... you don't matter GPT...
 * 22:01:12 <GPT> {='(
 * 22:01:15 <Phil_E> rofl
 * 22:01:25 * GPT	left #wikia-gaming ("{='(")
 * 22:01:29 <PanSola> )-:
 * 22:01:39 <Dantman|Sleepy> lol
 * 22:01:39 * GPT	joined #wikia-gaming
 * 22:01:43 <ChurchReborn> he'll be back....
 * 22:01:45 <ChurchReborn> nvm
 * 22:01:46 <PanSola> GPT: you don't matter. You energy
 * 22:01:48 <GPT> no one even /invite's me back in? WAH!!! {='(
 * 22:01:54 * GPT hugs PanSola
 * 22:02:10 * PanSola used to major in physics
 * 22:02:10 <Dantman|Sleepy> ^_^ And that was without the "You be quited GPT..." rofl...
 * 22:02:51 <GPT> rowl
 * 22:04:24 <PanSola> ok, for something random:
 * 22:04:31 <PanSola> what's the dumbest discussion on your wiki lately
 * 22:04:48 <PanSola> mine on GuildWIki was a revert war over whether something is an Elk or a Deer
 * 22:05:02 <Phil_E> lol
 * 22:05:04 * PanSola screams "Elks are Deers!"
 * 22:05:41 <Charitwo> Deer is plural :P
 * 22:05:46 <PanSola> oops
 * 22:05:56 <PanSola> Deer is the plural of deer
 * 22:05:57 <[NewsBot]> PanSola meant: http://www.wikia.com/wiki/Deer_is_the_plural_of_deer
 * 22:06:14 <RougeAdmin> haha
 * 22:06:59 * Charitwo	left #wikia-gaming
 * 22:08:45 <Phil_E> lol
 * 22:09:13 <ChurchReborn> lol
 * 22:10:35 <GPT> lol
 * 22:11:27 <Phil_E> lol
 * 22:11:40 <PanSola> Phil_E: why are you lol-ing twice?
 * 22:11:42 <PanSola> d-:
 * 22:11:49 <GPT> lol
 * 22:12:15 <Phil_E> cause everyone else loled :P
 * 22:12:19 <PanSola> heh
 * 22:12:22 <RougeAdmin> lol
 * 22:12:26 <Phil_E> lol

-PanSola 00:21, 22 October 2007 (UTC)