Forum:Digimon Wikia

 Is the sysop of the wikia, TinPhams, dead or something? It has been six days since I contacted him and no response. Ned Scott also contacted him, but well, I just felt like asking here rathr then waiting indefinetly.

An active sysop would be nice. Knight of Soul 12:47, 11 October 2007 (UTC)


 * A lot of wiki sometimes are abandoned by the founders for various reasons. From the looks of it TinPhams is inactive. The wiki can be adopted. Normally that's done by consensus of the current community or just letting someone adopt it if there is no one else actively contributing. But since the Digimon Wiki is a Anime/Manga wiki there is another option. Wikia ACG was made for cases much like this where there are people wanting to start a wiki, but none of them has much knowledge of how to do complicated things on a wiki. Myself, since I manage a lot of wiki I don't normally just adopt a inactive wiki and work on it, what I do is adopt inactive ones which have users who want to edit them. If a Animanga wiki is void of sysops and advanced editors I am always willing to adopt it and put it into Wikia ACG.
 * I'll just note one or two things that I'd change; Many of those templates being copied from Wikipedia are unneeded and quite badly done. I'll be deleting unneeded ones, and most of the ones that are useful already have better versions within Wikia ACG which are synced to any wiki in the project (So the good ones we have will be overriding the bad Wikipedia copies). Also Wikia ACG has a Jump start from Wikipedia policy, is restarting the articles which are mostly stubs by copying from Wikipedia and then merging in what people have done on the wiki into those fine with you? If you're confused at what I mean, take a look at the rc on the Marpedia. What I've been doing is moving current articles to a /original subpage, copying in Wikipedia articles, formatting the Wikipedia articles to nicely fit into the wiki, and then as we are doing also on the Narutopedia merging the stuff from the /original subpage into the one which was copied from Wikipedia. Basically I'd move something like Agumon to Agumon/original and then where at Agumon do a WP copy from Agumon with a Wikipedia attribution and save it. Then id format it to fit in with our templates. Do note 2 things, if you're copying and you're editing the WP version before you save the copy I won't take it, that makes a lot of important information that future editors of the article need, disappear. You open up the edit, copy from Wikipedia adding the Wikipedia template to the top, then save. Then after that you can format and then edit. Otherwise if you remove things like broken infoboxes other people can't find the information to later add in a infobox with our good infobox system. The other thing is that we don't use the Nihongo template, we've got a special template that we use instead. ~ NOTASTAFF Daniel Friesen (DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire) (talk) (tricks) (current topic)  Oct 11, 2007 @ 23:31 (UTC)
 * Well, I never added templates, most of that stuff was just added by Ned Scott. Not like I really use templates myself. -_- I also never copy the pages from another source so it wouldn't matter. The ACG is probably not totally needed since there are or will be more editors, I believe. Besides, I am really the only one who edits it now so you adopting it probably won't help too much, in my eyes. Though I can adopt it if it that is an option. Either way, something has to be done. The last part of your pargraph made my head spin a little, could you try clarifieing? Knight of Soul 00:36, 12 October 2007 (UTC)
 * I'll talk to him about the templates if this goes through. What I mentioned at the end was how I'd copy things from Wikipedia. Wikia ACG has a Jump start from Wikipedia policy which basically means that if you're starting an article, or have a stub, and Wikipedia already has a good article, copy the Wikipedia article instead of creating a small stub and ending up redoing every thing that many more people already did for you ready to use. It's basically a policy coming out of the quote "Don't reinvent the wheel, unless it needs reinventing."
 * But please don't think of Wikia ACG as just some project meant to help you with stuff if you need it. Joining the project is a good thing even if there is nothing in the project to benefit from. Wikia ACG's goal is not to just help small wiki startup, the goal is to create a comprehensive resource for each and every Anime, Manga, Cartoon, and Comic series. Unlike Wikipedia the idea is to give every series it's own space to be documented in full instead of limiting the documentation for reasons of Notability. And to unify those wiki in some ways that make it easier for readers to find similar wiki and series, and also help editors find other wiki to contribute to and also feel comfortable moving to the other wiki without the same issues they'd have with it if it were not part of the project making it very unfamiliar. It doesn't work if other wiki don't participate, it's not just an offer but a request to help a larger community grow instead of making them redo bits of things that don't need to be done. ~ NOTASTAFF Daniel Friesen (DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire) (talk) (tricks) (current topic) Oct 12, 2007 @ 03:39 (UTC)
 * I prefer not copying personally, since why have things EXACTLY the same? Copying things tends to lead soulless page since they exist on two sites and in two areas. Just like making the exact same wheel...over and over again. It's fun for me anyhow so I don't really mind. But by all means YOU can copy it. Can we just get an admin over there that isn't dead yet? Oy, that was the real question. Knight of Soul 12:53, 12 October 2007 (UTC)
 * It doesn't lead to things being exactly the same. The point of copying from Wikipedia is not to create a clone of their pages, it's to use the work that Wikipedia has already done and create a base page from it, then format it and split it to fit in your wiki and expand on it. That way you aren't missing any information that other people have already done, and you've got enough content for a good article to work on from the start.
 * But by all means, I can work out as an admin. More active than nearly any other user you could make admin, and I've done wiki like this before. 5 of Wikia ACG's wiki are personally administrated by myself, one has not gotten enough editors yet, another is moving along at times, I'm getting one of them to start moving, and another two are highly active. It's just, even with me as an admin, good templates and other things are needed. And the templates in Wikia ACG are the ones that I've poured a lot of effort into, I'm not really going to go creating a fresh new set of templates. ~ NOTASTAFF Daniel Friesen (DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire) (talk) (tricks) (current topic) Oct 12, 2007 @ 16:10 (UTC)
 * The thing is, articles such as this are never "really good" and fleshed out, most is left to the imagination regardless. We just need someone with admin abilities, whether it be you or I or perhaps someone else.
 * Well if you want help, I'm more than happy to show the other editor (s) the benefits of things I've found to work out best in practice and fix up the wiki. You just need to ask or confirm. With the cases of things like being added as admin or getting a bot flag or something else, all I really need is someone to confirm it and I can handle getting everything done myself. ~ NOTASTAFF Daniel Friesen (DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire) (talk) (tricks) (current topic) Oct 14, 2007 @ 09:00 (UTC)
 * I do believe most of the editors know how to get things to work out in the end. You also might want to clarify the latter half of the paragraph. Knight of Soul 13:17, 14 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Not really, editors are normally good with content. Not complex templates and starting a wiki of their own. Some of the Wikipedia templates they'd end up copying actually break here on Wikia. Not to mention they're poorly done and wiki on Wikia just copying templates from Wikipedia without anyone to fix them up don't end up to well technically wise. Take a look at the Yu-Gi-Oh! Wiki, great community, great editors, but poor templates and poor scripts. Well anyways, I'm talking things over with WikiProject Digimon, we'll see how that goes. ~ NOTASTAFF Daniel Friesen (DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire) (talk) (tricks) (current topic) Oct 14, 2007 @ 13:21 (UTC)