Forum:Is it possible for files or articles to be deleted without me knowing it?

I was wondering if an image on my Wikia could be deleted without being in the recent changes template or me getting an email (the watch this page thing is always checked). I didn't think it could happen but I became paranoid after an image I uploaded to wikipedia today got deleted without any warning to me and it didn't show up under my contributions! It should have shown up in red, but it just wasn't there. Daniel Christensen 03:40, May 19, 2010 (UTC)

On wikipedia, I've seen things slip by the related changes thing, but I've never seen my contributions not show something. I was wondering if this happens on Wikia too. Daniel Christensen 03:41, May 19, 2010 (UTC)
 * Deleted contributions do not show up on Special:Contributions. Even as a red link. They will typically show up as a red link on your Special:Watchlist though if you were watching/following them.--Rockfang 05:43, May 19, 2010 (UTC)
 * Well I'm just paranoid about people messing with it. But since I watch every page I couldn't miss it could I? Has there ever been a problem with emails not getting sent for things they are supposed to? Daniel Christensen 06:45, May 19, 2010 (UTC)


 * If you uploaded something that was later deleted, then at the top of your "User contributions" page, there should be a "Deleted user contributions" link beside the "(Talk | block | block log | logs)" piece. It ought to be listed in there. Yyp  (Talk) 11:05, May 19, 2010 (UTC)


 * The servers were having a fit yesterday at one stage when i tried to save pages. Had you actually seen it after it was uploaded ? As in the past i've had cases of images 'disapearing' when i thought id uploaded them succesfully. I would very much dought a image was deleted on your 'own' wiki as it would have to be a Staff member or the spam squad to have admin access. There are numerous places to view files, deletions and changes, but they can be hidden by staff from 'public' view in some cases. IMO - BulldozerD11 13:24, May 19, 2010 (UTC)


 * Wait when you say can be hidden from the "public", am I part of the public? Or would I see it as an admin pretty much no matter what. No I'm not talking about server errors. And I don't have an example to give. I was just wondering if it was possible. lol I'm OCD to the point where I write down the number of articles total after I'm done editing on my wikipedia page or elseware. Daniel Christensen 14:36, May 19, 2010 (UTC)


 * On 'your' wiki as an admin you have the ability to remove edits from the visible history that visitors and Editors see. Yes Wikia Staff can completely remove from searchable database material for legal reasons (and hide the edits from you). Staff would only remove material in extreme cases & as they generally do not follow all wikis would only act on infomation such as spam, legal thrests for copyright violation or defamation. Wikia and Wikipedia use the same media wiki software, so for mre detail look at Mediawiki under system admin info about database access. NOTE this is as I understand it. But for Wikia detailed policy / specific answers you should contact wikia staff directly via special:contact for a definitive answer in private.


 * On rereading your original post I see the 'real' problem was at wikipedia. You can ask an admin to check/review the deletions logs, if on there you are 'normal' user (non admin). Generally image uploaders should be notified of deletion with a reason, but some admins are a bit hasty & delete stuff under the wrong 'reason' classification speedialy. If you have upload images to here and then added them to wikipedia a non diligent Admin may class it as 'copied' from the web if they do a google search (As some admins are addicted to believing google is god for determining notability etc). I have seen it advised (cannot remember were) that if photos have been used on other sites a note can be added in the edit summary or the image description page. You like me operate under the same username on both sites, so the risk of a missunderstanding is small as anyone doing due diligence before deletion should make the connection. Just upload it again with a different name is probably the simplest an make sure it has a valid license is easiest if there was nothing controversial about the image and it is your own work etc. IMO (Wikia image policy is a lot laxer - the fanon & entertainment sites are full of copyrighted images with no license tags, so very unlikely staff would delete any of your images for copyright issues on here, unless a specific complaint was lodged).


 * If your getting stressed /paranoid about wikipedia articles its time to take a break !! I moved here as i was spending far too much time on my watch list and reading through some of the ridicules debates/arguments about policy details / interpretation and if thing were notable etc and not actualy creating articles or improving them. Build your wiki dont worry about things that 'may' happen you are getting some visitors now according to the page visits stats - BulldozerD11 20:08, May 19, 2010 (UTC)


 * Uploads and deletion appear on logs, so you can use wikipedia:Special:Log and look against your name to see your image uploads. Once you locate the file uploaded, if it was removed then it would appear as a red link. You can then follow the red link and you'll probably see the log for that file, usually the deletion log. --Ciencia Al Poder (talk) -WikiDex 20:14, May 19, 2010 (UTC)


 * Page visit stats? Where do you find those? Daniel Christensen 21:35, May 19, 2010 (UTC)
 * At the special:mostvisitedpages on your wiki. - BulldozerD11 23:08, May 19, 2010 (UTC)

I thought I looked for those before and they didn't exist. By the way! I got my first page not by me and my first vandalism on the wiki! they were the same; the page was the vandalism. Daniel Christensen 22:18, May 19, 2010 (UTC)
 * Least you know people can find the site now :) . Most of the ones I get are IP editors just saving the new page as test edits, not real vandals. only had one serious one in 2 years and that one was only because I clean up his vandalism on another wiki regularly. Its good when you see a new page in recent changes but then very disapointing when it has no useful content - BulldozerD11 23:08, May 19, 2010 (UTC)
 * Okay I found the page view thing. blahh it's not that great. And hey I knew I noticed somthing funny; how come in the very top left it no longer says "wikia"?

http://fingerlakes.wikia.com/wiki/The_Finger_Lakes_Wiki Daniel Christensen 01:00, May 20, 2010 (UTC)