Template talk:Wikia Gaming Footer

Guidelines
Someone from the Gaming Wiki should really moderate this template page and put down some guidelines, but in absence of that, here are some guidelines I'll suggest:
 * All wikis
 * Should contain this template if they wish to be listed in it.
 * Should have a wordmark.
 * Upper section (Other gaming wikis...)
 * Should have at least 1,000 pages.
 * Should have a Community Messages filled out (MediaWiki:Community-corner).
 * Should have at least one active admin (sysop) in the last month.
 * Recent highlights
 * Should have at least one active admin (sysop) in the last 3 months.


 * Updated based on discussion below.

Does that seem fair? -- Fandyllic (talk &middot; contr) 31 Aug 2011 8:47 AM Pacific


 * I have one other obvious guideline to suggest:
 * All wikis


 * Should contain this template if they wish to be listed in it.
 * I think wiki activity is a better line to draw than the number of pages.
 * Why not use, say, 200 active users in the last 90 days as the divide? (see Special:Statistics). For one thing, this would move 7 more wikis to the lower group. I'd be happy to go through and check Special:Statistics on each wiki. -User452 16:19, August 31, 2011 (UTC)


 * I don't think using Community Messages should be a requirement, as some wikis use the News blog instead. I was unsure about whether this was acceptable, so I emailed Wikia Community Support Team, they could not tell me any benefit of using Community Messages over News blogs, and told me: "It's up to you whether you use news blogs or community messages to update your users.", so I think that's an unfair requirement, as some wikis just do things differently. -User452 22:50, September 1, 2011 (UTC)


 * Added suggestion about using template to be in list.
 * Okay I got rid of Community Messages. If Wikia can't even defend the need for it, then it is lame.
 * The active users tracking is just too hard to do. I picked 1000 pages, because the big wikis really should be in the upper area. Otherwise that area could have like 1000 wikis listed. We could change the threshold to 500. -- Fandyllic (talk &middot; contr) 2 Sep 2011 8:49 AM Pacific

Request
Is there a way to request to have your wiki on this template as I do not want to add without permisson--Tama63 Talk Twitter 17:15, June 19, 2011 (UTC)

Template Use
I think that all wikis listed on this Template should have this template on their main page. Would anyone mind if I added this any of the wikis which are missing it? -User452 21:50, June 19, 2011 (UTC)


 * Today I have added the template to several wikis which were missing it, and left messages with the wikis which are locked.


 * 1) Fable - present
 * 2) Fatal Fury - present
 * 3) Lord of the Rings Online - present
 * 4) Ninja Gaiden - present
 * 5) Professor Layton - present
 * 6) Saints Row - present
 * 7) Spore - present
 * 8) Dead or Alive - updated
 * 9) Touhou Project - updated
 * 10) Grand Theft Auto - outdated
 * 11) Warhammer Online - outdated
 * 12) Age of Conan - Added
 * 13) Bloodrayne - Added
 * 14) Killzone - Added
 * 15) Lego Pirates the Video Game - Added
 * 16) Metroid - added
 * 17) Okami - added
 * 18) Soul Calibur - added
 * 19) Mario - added
 * 20) StarCraft - added
 * 21) World of Warcraft - added
 * 22) Pokemon - added
 * 23) Assassin's Creed - missing
 * 24) Donkey Kong - missing
 * 25) Elder Scrolls - missing
 * 26) Fallout - missing
 * 27) Halo - missing
 * 28) Metal Gear - missing
 * 29) Sonic the Hedgehog - missing
 * 30) Street Fighter - missing
 * 31) Zelda - missing declined request to re-add the footer
 * 32) Guild Wars - opted out.
 * I think it's disgusting that these wikis are listed in the Wikia Gaming Footer, but do not carry the Wikia Gaming Footer on their wikis. -User452 04:45, August 31, 2011 (UTC)
 * Only 7 wikis listed in the footer used the current version of the footer, with another 4 using old versions. A total of 21 wikis did not have the footer at all, but I have now added the footer to 11 of those. Now, 18 wikis in total have the footer, 2 have opted out, and 8 wikis still do not have the footer. -User452 04:53, August 31, 2011 (UTC)
 * It's "disgusting", eh? Well, if you think that we're taking unfair advantage of the traffic without reciprocating or similar, I don't think anyone on Zeldapedia would mind being taken off of this. Of course, it does benefit Wikia for people to have access to a maximum amount of content so that they spend more time browsing and look at more advertisements, so they probably won't remove us even if we ask, but whatever. At least we won't be disgusting anymore! - Is drak  thül  05:33, August 31, 2011 (UTC)
 * As I said on your wiki, no-one is forcing you to be listed in the footer. You should have removed yourselves from the footer when you removed the footer from your wiki. -User452 05:35, August 31, 2011 (UTC)
 * I think it'd been nicer to ask, instead of assuming people would want it. Just a thought. Ariyen 17:37, August 31, 2011 (UTC)
 * Saying that I didn't "ask" implies that I gave you no choice. I said to you, "... you can add it by ...", which gives you a choice.
 * This footer is on all wikis by default. I did not add you to it, and it would be rude of me to remove you without giving you the choice to add it. Of course it's optional, and anyone can opt out. :) -User452 21:51, August 31, 2011 (UTC)
 * I think it'd been nicer to ask, instead of assuming people would want it. Just a thought. Ariyen 17:37, August 31, 2011 (UTC)
 * Saying that I didn't "ask" implies that I gave you no choice. I said to you, "... you can add it by ...", which gives you a choice.
 * This footer is on all wikis by default. I did not add you to it, and it would be rude of me to remove you without giving you the choice to add it. Of course it's optional, and anyone can opt out. :) -User452 21:51, August 31, 2011 (UTC)


 * I think that, maybe, if the footer gets too long, it should be scrollable. I also think that some people have really cluttered front pages, and that if they did want the link or to be linked to here, they could just link back to the gaming wiki someplace in their wiki (in a noticeable place), like the navigation bar at the top. I do think that kicking gaming wikis out of the loop is kind of harsh, even if they don't link back. It could be made so that any wiki that doesn't use the footer or link to the gaming wiki (or if they aren't able to reach the terms above) just can't get can't be listed as a highlight for the gaming wiki footer or as a highlight in the gaming wiki. --Imanie 03:57, September 1, 2011 (UTC)
 * "out of the loop" - The loop was very broken, I'm giving each of them a choice to come back into the loop, and now there are 11 wikis participating in the loop who weren't. :) -User452 22:50, September 1, 2011 (UTC)

Customizing the wikis listed in the Footer
Greetings, I am the Bcrat of the AliceSoft Wiki and the Eushully Wiki. I want to explore options to customize the footer to optimize for the theme/audience of the wikis I am involved with. This is why I had my wikis use a customized list. I don't care if the other wikis I am linking to reciprocate (would be nice, but not a necessity), have word marks (having an ugly one is worse than not having one), or are even active (maybe one of our visitors would be interested in reviving an inactive related wiki). I am surfacing the wikis I think my visitors would have a higher interest in.

I propose an opt-in 3-line system (parallel to this completely centralized system), where my own wiki community gets to choose which wikis go on the first two lines, and we pull a third line from a standardized template on central, which would have at most ten wikis listed but can rotate its list for coverage. Some wikis might show up twice this way, but I think it is a good compromise for optimal user experience. -Afker All hail AliceSoft! 03:54, September 4, 2011 (UTC)