Forum:2008 Jan 20 IRC meeting transcript

The following is a semi-sanitized version of the IRC chat transcript. All times listed are based in PST (California etc).


 * 13:01:08]  ok, introduction time
 * [13:01:24] * PanSola is from GuildWiki, and happens to be an admin there.
 * [13:01:41] * Quits: Fantomas
 * [13:02:17] * Joins: Fantomas
 * [13:02:28] * Sgt_Johnson is from Ace Wiki and Army of Two wiki, where he is a b-crat, is a rollback user on halopedia and a channel operator on their IRC, and edits countless other gaming wikis
 * [13:02:55]  Heh, bad connection tonight
 * [13:04:00]  Yeah
 * [13:04:09]  )-:
 * [13:04:13]  Only 1 / 3 squid servers are running, I'm told
 * [13:04:16]  Fantomas, FastLizard4, introduce yourseives
 * [13:04:20] * FastLizard4 is from the Metroid Wiki where he is a bureaucrat, and is the channel founder for that wiki
 * [13:05:42]  Azul: Moderator-Final Fantasy Wiki, Admin/Sysop-Kingdom Hearts Wiki
 * [13:05:45]  Im new too, so i'll introduce myself too
 * [13:06:01]  Im an administrator at the Metal Gear wiki
 * [13:06:10]  I'm told that the Wikia servers are undergoing a DDoS attack, which is generating socket errors
 * [13:06:14]  all the old ppl are supposed to introduce themselves too
 * [13:06:21]  oh ok
 * [13:06:25]  - from the Domo Wiki where I'm and admin, kinda new at this
 * [13:06:46]  ah Domo, Dream of Mirrors Online right?
 * [13:06:51]  yeah
 * [13:06:52]  Congratz on the Rollback Rights Pan Sola
 * [13:07:01] <PanSola> thanks az
 * [13:07:02] <Azul81677> at the FF Wiki
 * [13:07:24] <Azul81677> Will you be contributing regularly now?
 * [13:07:33] <PanSola> az: sporadically
 * [13:07:43] <Azul81677> ahh
 * [13:08:10] * Quits: Fantomas
 * [13:08:16] * Joins: Tesfan
 * [13:08:16] * Joins: |Dede|
 * [13:08:21] <Azul81677> Hello Dede
 * [13:08:24] * Joins: Mouse_among_men
 * [13:08:24] * Joins: pcj
 * [13:08:25] <|Dede|> Hi
 * [13:08:29] * Mouse_among_men wakes up.
 * [13:08:35] <Mouse_among_men> What is it, fools?
 * [13:08:36] <PanSola> self-intros please (-:
 * [13:08:38] <FastLizard4> Ahh, it looks like they have got another squid online
 * [13:08:43] <Mouse_among_men> You have disturbed my rest.
 * [13:08:48] * Joins: Skizzerz
 * [13:09:07] <PanSola> (-:
 * [13:09:09] <Mouse_among_men> Skizzerz: Rårf
 * [13:09:14] <Skizzerz> hai
 * [13:09:23] <PanSola> Mouse: introduce yourself
 * [13:09:25] * Tesfan is an admin @ http://runescape.wikia.com/wiki/Main_Page
 * [13:09:30] * Joins: Fantomas
 * [13:09:32] * Mouse_among_men waits for st00f to happen nao.
 * [13:09:35] <Mouse_among_men> Fantomas: Rårf
 * [13:10:05] <FastLizard4> Great, now the servers aren't responding at all...
 * [13:10:46] * Parts: pcj
 * [13:11:19] <PanSola> hmm
 * [13:11:23] <FastLizard4> Well, anything interesting to talk about today that does not include the Wikia server problems?
 * [13:11:32] <PanSola> haha I was gonna ask that
 * [13:11:38] <PanSola> any wikis got anything to talk about?
 * [13:11:47] <PanSola> questions/help to ask?
 * [13:12:06] <Azul81677> Quicj question when is the featured wiki choosen?
 * [13:12:11] <Fantomas> hello again gentlemen
 * [13:12:12] * Mouse_among_men is brushing teeth.
 * [13:12:44] <PanSola> Azul81677: the central Featured Wikia or the Featured Gaming Wikia?
 * [13:12:52] <Fantomas> we were wondering about this whole Gamespot thing...
 * [13:12:53] <FastLizard4> Mouse_among_men: Either introduce yourself or stop doing the self descriptions
 * [13:13:03] <Azul81677> central Featured Wikia
 * [13:13:15] <PanSola> Azul81677: not sure. Supposedly to be monthly
 * [13:13:25] <PanSola> but not many ppl vote or otherwise pay attention to it
 * [13:13:35] <Azul81677> KHWiki is nominated
 * [13:13:43] <Azul81677> 10 ppl have voted already
 * [13:13:44] <PanSola> Fantomas: what about the Gamespot thing?
 * [13:13:51] <Mouse_among_men> Hm? Intro?
 * [13:13:59] <FastLizard4> Darn, we have one more squid on standby, but there is still only 1 / 4 active
 * [13:14:03] <PanSola> Azul81677: I don't htink the previous one has been featured for a month yet
 * [13:14:11] <FastLizard4> Mouse_among_men: Who you are, what wiki, etc.
 * [13:14:18] <Mouse_among_men> ...
 * [13:14:21] <Mouse_among_men> Kay...
 * [13:14:26] <Mouse_among_men> Hold on.
 * [13:14:53] <Mouse_among_men> Name: Mouse among men; wiki: Halopedia.
 * [13:14:56] <Fantomas> We just didn't see anything about it on the main Wikia site, and barely anything about it on Gamespot...
 * [13:14:56] <Mouse_among_men> Anything else?
 * [13:14:58] <Selo> Where does the wiki get shown on Gamespot? has it taken effect yet? because i looked on the MGS4 page for us, but nothing was there
 * [13:15:23] <FastLizard4> Mouse_among_men: Administrator/Bureaucrat/etc. if it applies
 * [13:15:40] <Fantomas> by the by, just wanted to let people know I'm an Admin for the Metal Gear Wiki]
 * [13:15:56] <PanSola> I think it's still being finalized or something
 * [13:15:57] <Mouse_among_men> FastLizard4: None that I can think of.
 * [13:16:16] <Selo> PanSola: ok cool
 * [13:16:22] <PanSola> not completely sure of the status with Gamespot
 * [13:16:38] * FastLizard4 is now known as FastLizard4|busy
 * [13:16:40] <PanSola> I think *some* of the wikis already has it, and Metal Gear Solid is one of the next round to be included
 * [13:16:50] <Sgt_Johnson> I think the DDoS attack stopped...
 * [13:17:10] <Selo> PanSola: thats cool. we've done the templates so we're all set up
 * [13:17:17] <PanSola> nice (-:
 * [13:17:17] <Mouse_among_men> Sgt_Johnson: w00t
 * [13:18:13] <PanSola> Mass Effect is one of the ones that is already available via gamespot
 * [13:18:14] <PanSola> http://www.gamespot.com/xbox360/rpg/masseffect/wiki.html?om_act=convert&om_clk=tabs&tag=tabs;wiki
 * [13:18:38] <Selo> cheers
 * [13:18:46] <Mouse_among_men> Selo: Çya
 * [13:18:56] <PanSola> so you can take a look now and know what to expect (-:
 * [13:18:56] <Azul81677> I think the FFWiki is in the process of doing that
 * [13:19:17] <PanSola> yeah FF is also for the next round
 * [13:20:13] <PanSola> any other stuff from any wikis?
 * [13:20:30] <Sgt_Johnson> Ace Wiki is going smoothly
 * [13:20:49] <Cactuar83> SWGames had a meeting yesterday
 * [13:20:55] * Quits: Fantomas
 * [13:20:57] <Sgt_Johnson> But... oh
 * [13:21:01] <Sgt_Johnson> there's thsi cross wiki vandal
 * [13:21:24] <Sgt_Johnson> I saw him on 3 wikis today
 * [13:21:24] * Phil_E is now known as Phil_E|Lunch
 * [13:21:36] <Tesfan> What's this about Gamespot?
 * [13:21:38] * Joins: Fantomas
 * [13:21:40] <Sgt_Johnson> two of which I'm an administrator on
 * [13:21:52] <Cactuar83> IP or user
 * [13:21:55] <PanSola> Tesfan: go to the URL I just pasted above and see for yourself (-:
 * [13:22:02] <Mouse_among_men> Sgt_Johnson: Was he on HP?
 * [13:22:11] <Sgt_Johnson> Mouse_among_men: Dunno
 * [13:22:12] <Sgt_Johnson> IP
 * [13:22:13] <Azul81677> Cross Wiki Vandal?
 * [13:22:16] <Sgt_Johnson> Yesh
 * [13:22:18] <Tesfan> m'k
 * [13:22:24] <Fantomas> Hmm, my connection is really playing up
 * [13:22:37] <Sgt_Johnson> He made pages about pseudfederine or some other drug selling
 * [13:22:46] <Mouse_among_men> Oh yah.
 * [13:22:48] <Sgt_Johnson> "Phentermine diet pills discount":
 * [13:22:50] <Mouse_among_men> He was on HP.
 * [13:22:52] <Cactuar83> What was his number
 * [13:22:52] <Sgt_Johnson> He makes pages with this name
 * [13:22:55] <PanSola> hmm
 * [13:22:57] <Mouse_among_men> I saw CT delete his pages.
 * [13:22:59] <Sgt_Johnson> User:124.217.251.166 with
 * [13:23:02] <PanSola> looks like the janitors aren't on
 * [13:23:40] <Sgt_Johnson> So... I know he's vandalised 4 wikis
 * [13:23:42] <Skizzerz> IIRC sannse globally blocked that IP
 * [13:23:42] <Sgt_Johnson> anybody else?
 * [13:23:47] <PanSola> remember to bug Jack_Phoenix and/or GHe about it if you see them
 * [13:23:51] <Sgt_Johnson> she did?
 * [13:23:52] <Sgt_Johnson> ah
 * [13:23:59] <PanSola> ah
 * [13:24:00] <Sgt_Johnson> I blocked him earlier this morning
 * [13:24:12] <Azul81677> Looks like he/she is from Malaysia
 * [13:24:27] <PanSola> or using a proxy located in Malasia but from Antarctica
 * [13:24:28] <Sgt_Johnson> Probably mad about that Uncyclo article...
 * [13:24:30] <Sgt_Johnson> >_>
 * [13:24:33] <Skizzerz> he/she vandalised probably 100 different Wikias, plus I saw it on a different site that I go to
 * [13:24:36] <Sgt_Johnson> O_O
 * [13:24:40] <Sgt_Johnson> Holy crap
 * [13:25:03] <Cactuar83> busy scum
 * [13:25:14] <PanSola> Haledire: how is the DoMO wiki coming along?
 * [13:25:14] <Skizzerz> the figure came from a remark from Grey-man earlier today, btw
 * [13:25:15] <Sgt_Johnson> But at least they didn't vandalise 100 pages on 100 different Wikias
 * [13:25:26] <Sgt_Johnson> Then that would've been one hell of a clean up
 * [13:25:27] <Cactuar83> He may have even hit SWGames
 * [13:25:31] <Mouse_among_men> DoMo?
 * [13:25:38] <PanSola> Dream of Mirrors Online
 * [13:25:38] <Sgt_Johnson> Hm
 * [13:25:44] <Mouse_among_men> Ah.
 * [13:25:50] <Haledire> doing ok so far, i've been uploading a lot of my previous work from another wiki
 * [13:26:04] <PanSola> ah
 * [13:26:09] <PanSola> cool (-:
 * [13:26:27] <Haledire> kinda still getting used to templates in wiki, fixing the same ones over and over to cover other little nuances
 * [13:26:59] * Quits: Tesfan
 * [13:27:02] <Haledire> trying to decide if i should stick with nothing but small thumbnails or actually make slightly bigger pictures that get shrunk down
 * [13:27:25] <PanSola> I and others here probably can help you with template issues if you need any help (-:
 * [13:27:30] * Quits: Fantomas
 * [13:27:48] <Azul81677> On the topic of vandals, is there anyone who had a vandal who wouldn't go away; unbannable?
 * [13:28:06] <PanSola> GuildWiki kinda had a few
 * [13:28:13] <PanSola> but they eveutally move on
 * [13:28:24] <PanSola> or at least taking a long break before returning
 * [13:28:25] <Azul81677> Yeah
 * [13:28:35] <Azul81677> What goes on in their minds?
 * [13:28:42] * Joins: smaw
 * [13:28:46] <PanSola> hi smaw
 * [13:28:48] <Azul81677> they obviously don't have a life
 * [13:29:00] <Mouse_among_men> smaw: Rårf
 * [13:29:02] <PanSola> Azul81677: probably something like "Mwahahahahaha, take THIS!"
 * [13:29:11] <Azul81677> lol
 * [13:29:19] hi
 * [13:29:28] <Mouse_among_men> Azul81677: Halopedia has one that occasionally comes back via sockpuppets.
 * [13:29:37] <PanSola> smaw: which wiki are you from?
 * [13:29:53] TR?
 * [13:30:04] <Mouse_among_men> TR?
 * [13:30:09] <PanSola> Tabula Rasa
 * [13:30:10] tabula rasa
 * [13:30:21] <Mouse_among_men> !bAH
 * [13:30:38] * Mouse_among_men knows of a few (in)famous vandals from Halopedia.
 * [13:30:44] <Cactuar83> Azul:What about ihatefinalfantasy
 * [13:31:03] <PanSola> in general, the more annoyed they feel you are
 * [13:31:08] <PanSola> the more motivated they become
 * [13:31:11] <Sgt_Johnson> Yeah
 * [13:31:19] <Cactuar83> Azul:Does the FF wiki have a channel
 * [13:31:25] <Mouse_among_men> Sgt_Johnson: Jonathon117 or whatevah.
 * [13:31:33] <Sgt_Johnson> Mouse_among_men: He wasn't a vandal
 * [13:31:49] <Azul81677> Cactuar83:Ohhh yeah I forgot about him/her
 * [13:31:58] <PanSola> persistent quietly reverting the vandalisms is the best way to deal with it
 * [13:32:02] * Joins: Fantomas
 * [13:32:03] <Azul81677> Cactuar83:Channel?
 * [13:32:11] <PanSola> don't express frustration or annoyance or any other reaction
 * [13:32:15] * Phil_E|Lunch is now known as Phil_E
 * [13:32:18] <Cactuar83> Azul: IRC channel
 * [13:32:24] <Mouse_among_men> Sgt_Johnson: Well, he bordered it, until he fell over the border into vandalism via sockpuppetry.
 * [13:32:35] <Sgt_Johnson> Mouse_among_men: He just said that UNSC Rocked
 * [13:32:36] <Azul81677> Cactuar83:I don't think so
 * [13:32:42] <Sgt_Johnson> He wanted to come back
 * [13:32:43] <Cactuar83> OK
 * [13:33:35] * Quits: smaw
 * [13:33:52] <Sgt_Johnson> does anybody have the feeling that that IP is hte same one doing this slowness....
 * [13:33:55] * Joins: GPT
 * [13:34:01] <PanSola> hi GPT
 * [13:34:11] <Mouse_among_men> GPT: Rårf
 * [13:34:23] <GPT> PANSOLA!!! hi.
 * [13:34:28] <GPT> still workin' on the lizt
 * [13:34:28] * Joins: Tesfan
 * [13:34:35] <PanSola> GPT: cool
 * [13:34:38] <Sgt_Johnson> does anybody have the feeling that that IP is hte same one doing this slowness....
 * [13:34:39] <Mouse_among_men> Tesfan: Rårf
 * [13:34:46] <PanSola> Johnson : dunno
 * [13:35:10] <Skizzerz> Sgt_Johnson: dunno, although crucially denied there being an attack about 10-ish minutes ago
 * [13:35:18] <PanSola> oh yeah, so I'm starting a project
 * [13:35:24] <Sgt_Johnson> Ah
 * [13:35:28] <Tesfan> hai =D
 * [13:35:41] <PanSola> to collect a complete list of all wikia wikis of
 * [13:35:50] <GPT> *genre
 * [13:35:51] <PanSola> * *
 * [13:35:58] <GPT> ^_^
 * [13:36:04] <PanSola> GPT is helping out on FPS
 * [13:36:10] <PanSola> fw190a8 is helping out on Tabletop games
 * [13:36:43] <GPT> Wikipedia is helping out when you click on a game and half NFC what genre it is
 * [13:36:48] * Skizzerz wishes PanSola luck with that, then sneaks into the black shadows behind him, vanishing as if he dematerialized into them
 * [13:36:49] <PanSola> I want to see if anyone want to help me on any of the other genres:
 * [13:36:59] <PanSola> MMOs, Racing games, RPGs, etc
 * [13:37:01] <Mouse_among_men> Sgt_Johnson: http://halo.wikia.com/wiki/Special:Contributions/Jonathan117 Flip through them again.
 * [13:37:25] <Sgt_Johnson> If wikia lets me...
 * [13:37:27] * Quits: Fantomas
 * [13:37:51] <Sgt_Johnson> and Mouse?
 * [13:38:03] <Mouse_among_men> Sgt_Johnson: Yah?
 * [13:38:09] <Sgt_Johnson> what do you mean?
 * [13:38:19] <Sgt_Johnson> He was just clueless
 * [13:38:30] <Mouse_among_men> Hold on; let me find examples.
 * [13:40:06] * Joins: Sky2042
 * [13:40:09] <GPT> rarf
 * [13:40:13] <PanSola> hi Sky2042
 * [13:40:36] <Mouse_among_men> Sgt_Johnson: http://halo.wikia.com/index.php?title=User_talk:Manticore&diff=prev&oldid=279537 and http://halo.wikia.com/index.php?title=User_talk:Guesty-Persony-Thingy&diff=prev&oldid=273836
 * [13:40:42] <Sky2042> the rars and the his and aaaa
 * [13:40:43] <Mouse_among_men> Sky2042: Rårf
 * [13:40:44] <Sky2042> forgot it was chat day
 * [13:40:46] <Sky2042> =)
 * [13:40:48] <Sky2042> <- is an admin on wowwiki
 * [13:41:08] <Sky2042> PanSola: what's been talking bout?
 * [13:41:09] <Sgt_Johnson> Mouse: And...
 * [13:41:19] <Mouse_among_men> And...?
 * [13:41:24] <Sgt_Johnson> He just likes the UNSC
 * [13:41:34] <Mouse_among_men> *sigh*
 * [13:41:36] <Sgt_Johnson> And the other link
 * [13:41:42] <Sgt_Johnson> Hi! Thanks for the greeting
 * [13:41:43] <Sgt_Johnson> ...
 * [13:41:45] <Sgt_Johnson> ooh
 * [13:41:47] <Sgt_Johnson> bad boy
 * [13:41:48] <Mouse_among_men> Oh wait.
 * [13:41:51] <Sgt_Johnson> 9_9
 * [13:42:11] <Mouse_among_men> Crap, the GPT one was the wrong one; instead, see http://halo.wikia.com/index.php?title=User_talk:ChurchReborn&diff=prev&oldid=279408
 * [13:42:23] <PanSola> Sky2042: mostly about vandalisms today
 * [13:42:34] <Sky2042> ah
 * [13:42:54] <Sgt_Johnson> ok...
 * [13:43:04] <Sgt_Johnson> He just wanted to know why he was vanned
 * [13:43:09] <Sgt_Johnson> and was clueles
 * [13:43:26] <Mouse_among_men> "Manticore hates me"?
 * [13:43:35] <Mouse_among_men> Hardly "being clueless".
 * [13:43:36] <PanSola> anyways
 * [13:43:50] <Sgt_Johnson> I thought Manticore hated me
 * [13:44:21] <Sgt_Johnson> and obviously... at least 4 out of the 6 admins like me
 * [13:44:39] <Mouse_among_men> 4?
 * [13:44:45] <Mouse_among_men> 6?
 * [13:44:46] <Sgt_Johnson> Majority
 * [13:44:53] <Sgt_Johnson> CT, ED, DC, RR, GPT, and Manticore
 * [13:44:56] <Mouse_among_men> You forget Esemono :D
 * [13:45:04] <Sgt_Johnson> Esemono isn't an admin..
 * [13:45:07] <GPT> yes, he is
 * [13:45:19] <Sgt_Johnson> I thought he was inactive
 * [13:45:21] <Dashiva> So did anything happen yet apart from talking about lag and halo?
 * [13:45:25] <GPT> he *is* inactive
 * [13:45:28] <GPT> but he's also an admin.
 * [13:45:34] <Mouse_among_men> Ja
 * [13:45:34] <Sgt_Johnson> Hm
 * [13:45:40] <Sgt_Johnson> :/
 * [13:45:42] <GPT> Sgt_Johnson: Jonathan117 was a troll, not a vandal.
 * [13:45:44] <PanSola> Dashiva: you missed the part about compiling a list of all gaming wikias by genre
 * [13:45:47] <Sgt_Johnson> I know
 * [13:45:50] <Mouse_among_men> AgentSeethroo and Porplemontage are also admins.
 * [13:45:53] <Sgt_Johnson> Mouse thought he was a vnadal
 * [13:46:01] <Dashiva> PanSola: I already got that yesterday, didn't I? ;)
 * [13:46:07] * Mouse_among_men thought trolling = type of vandalism.
 * [13:46:23] <Skizzerz> nah, trolls and vandals are totally different
 * [13:46:28] <GPT> vandalism hurts the content
 * [13:46:32] <GPT> trollism hurts the people
 * [13:46:35] <Mouse_among_men> Still disrupt wikis.
 * [13:46:35] <PanSola> hehe
 * [13:46:35] <Skizzerz> at least, until vandals start to make residences under bridges
 * [13:46:42] <Mouse_among_men> XD
 * [13:46:52] <Sgt_Johnson> XD
 * [13:47:10] <Sky2042> lol
 * [13:47:36] * Dashiva wonders if really ugly user pages count as vandalism
 * [13:47:47] <Azul81677> lol
 * [13:48:07] <Mouse_among_men> XD
 * [13:48:14] <PanSola> hmm
 * [13:48:26] <PanSola> anyways, remember to vote and/or nominate for featured gaming wikia
 * [13:48:27] <PanSola> http://www.wikia.com/wiki/Featured_gaming_Wikia
 * [13:48:34] <Mouse_among_men> GPT: Well, it still falls under "disrupting wikis" and "not useful".
 * [13:48:35] <PanSola> (good luck loading hte page)
 * [13:48:40] <Sgt_Johnson> lol
 * [13:48:45] <GPT> yeah, does
 * [13:49:33] <Azul81677> PanSola: Where can you nominate a Wiki?
 * [13:50:09] <Azul81677> to be featured on the "Featured gaming Wiki"?
 * [13:50:13] <Mouse_among_men> On Wikia.
 * [13:50:26] <PanSola> Azul81677: get that link to load first
 * [13:50:33] <PanSola> then you'll find the link to nominate/vote
 * [13:50:48] hey, did you like the tabletop RPG template?
 * [13:50:57] <Azul81677> huh? The link loaded fast for me
 * [13:51:00] <Azul81677> p.S Thanks :)
 * [13:51:20] <Mouse_among_men> *quickly
 * [13:51:32] <PanSola> fw190a8: nice (-:
 * [13:52:40] * Mouse_among_men changes topic.
 * [13:52:49] <Cactuar83> Thank you
 * [13:52:56] <Mouse_among_men> Cactuar83: Marry me.
 * [13:52:57] * Dashiva falls asleep waiting for pages to load
 * [13:53:47] * Cactuar83 kills himself
 * [13:53:49] * Parts: Cactuar83
 * [13:53:51] <Mouse_among_men> XD
 * [13:54:01] * Joins: Cactuar83
 * [13:54:01] * Quits: Selo
 * [13:54:09] <Cactuar83> then respawns
 * [13:54:14] <PanSola> anyways, I gotta take off now, but please try to hang around as much as possible
 * [13:54:14] <Mouse_among_men> GPT: Suggestion for quote on #halopedia topic.
 * [13:54:16] <PanSola> to help ppl
 * [13:54:23] <GPT> go on
 * [13:54:26] <GPT> bye PanSola!
 * [13:54:32] <PanSola> since founders of new wikis do drop by to ask for ehlp (-:
 * [13:54:34] <PanSola> see ya
 * [13:54:37] <Sky2042> bye PanSola.

-PanSola 19:09, 21 January 2008 (UTC)