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Thank you!
thanks for welcoming me. I would be glad to help with an article about firefox 3! CodeRed

Why you have erased our Wiki?
Dear Angela,

why do you have erased our Wiki? It is very important for us and so I can't understand why you could erase such a big work without notifying the user of this Wiki. So please do not erase our Wiki (http://requests.wikia.com/wiki/TICommunity) again. It is very important for our work at university. After our presentation in one week we will erase it by ourself. By the way - it is not a very fine way to handle with the members of a community to erase long entries of them without giving them a notice why you did this and how we could rebuild them. But good to know that we have to choose in future another supplier for our work!


 * Requests.wikia.com isn't the place to make a wiki. It's the place to request one. The actual content should go on the wiki when it is created. If you want to create content before then, please use scratchpad:. Angela talk 18:08, 4 May 2007 (UTC)

Google ads
As a matter of interest, how much would it cost to have google ads removed from a particular wiki. I'm suggesting that we pay you rather than google basically, just wanted to know roughly how much per month it would cost, whether bandwidth would be involved, etc. --Eucarya Talk 09:16, 2 May 2007 (UTC)


 * Sorry, but this isn't an option at Wikia. The revenue doesn't cover the cost of hosting yet anyway. If there are particular problems with the ads, such as gold-selling ads appearing, we can try to block those. Angela talk 18:08, 4 May 2007 (UTC)

Full Metal Alchemist Wiki
I wasn't sure what the FMA Wiki's position on the WGEP was before, because the founder confused me after he added the Sysop flag to me. But after explaining the project to him he responded by also adding Bureaucrat to me... So the only thing missing is the Bot flags on AnimeBot and DantmanAWB, I won't add fmp to Anime:Project:Bots/Wiki until he directly says yes to wanting the FMP Wiki to be part of the WGEP, but since he's admining me I'll probably help out with AnimeBot doing double-redirect fixing, and various mass changes on the wiki that they request even if they don't join the WGEP. But considering this, I definately won't run the WGEP bots there until after AnimeBot has bot, and they have also said yes. The thought of running it and seeing all that, or having to undo all that is quite scary. ps: Thanks for the help with the GITS Wiki again, this is the first time I've experimented with adding a fresh Wikia wiki to the WGEP, so it's a little different than adding an old one, cause instead of setting up the forums, I half to alter the existing system. And then there's the default help, I half to expand the Global WGEP help before anything can be done about local stuff. Well, most likely I'll build a setup script. ~Dantman(talk) tricks May 2, 2007 @ 20:14 (UTC)

Size and movement
I'm sure you remember that the WGEP is going to expand into Manga, Comics, and Cartoons in the future. And obviously this means that the Animepedia wouldn't fit as the top-level Wikia which stores the shared content. Because of that I know that one day a wiki would probably half to be made for the Wikia Graphical Entertainment Project itself, kinda a Sub central wiki for the WGEP for managing the project and holding content which isn't specific to one area. At the moment I can think of these estimates on what would half to be moved from the Animepedia to a wiki like that: And I'm sure that there's more that I can't think of. Not to mention that in each wiki in the Project 4 pages need to be altered to reference the new pages instead of the old Global pages. And the project has already reached 4 wiki with 3 more wiki with high joining potential, 2 wiki with possible future joining potential, and of course it should be remembered that the actual thing which would trigger the need for the new wiki is actually the addition of another wiki which would be a top-level wiki(eg: Manga Wiki). (Not to mention that I'll half to alter my personal monobook.js and monobook.css, on 16 wiki... Potentially also smoke.js and smoke.css when the skin comes out T_T)
 * Estimate 68 Templates
 * Estimate 40 Images
 * Estimate 16 Global Styles/Scripts
 * Estimate 12 UserBoxes
 * Estimate 87 Categories (Some of which must be done manually)
 * Estimate 30 Global Information/Guide/Contact/Policy pages
 * Estimate 24 Global Help Pages (Plus the information in the Default Setup help needs to be added to the Global Help to replace the stuff)

Also other than the pages there, I also half to move the BotInfo pages, and modify the Bot Source code to read from the new wiki.
 * So what I'm really wondering is, how long should I wait. I've held away from the Manga Wiki (Which has been inactive for over 3 months now) deciding that I'd bring it in when either the project gets big enough, or I get 2 users making comments that they want me to expand the project into Phase 2 (Manga). If you're wondering what other future purpose the wiki would serve other than as a storage place for the Shared content, I've got a few things:
 * Company Info (Different companies like VIZ Media, FUNimation, etc... Would have their information in the Global area instead of in local spots)
 * General Definitions (Because many definitions are used on more than one area, things like Anime, Manga, han'yō (genre), and terms like Shikigami and Shinigami)
 * General Information (Help pages, pages describing the project, project policies, etc... would be located there)
 * Crossover lists (While the Animepedia would list all the Anime, and the Manga(pedia| Wiki)(I don't know about the name... I'll half to ask the community for opinions on Technical vs. Visual) would list all the Manga. But the top wiki over them all would probably also list pages which list the Anime, Manga, Comic, and Cartoon versions of each series as well as any wiki which exist in the project about those series)
 * Any thoughts, maybe I'm asking to much... I just made a request about the FMA Wiki, but I guess this is Admin obsession <- Being obsessed into working extremely long amounts of time on something you founded and have an interest in.
 * I ask to much of the tech team... 5+ Bugs, 5+ Namespace/SITENAME/Project namespace requests, future requests for custom extensions being built for the project to be installed, request for a subdomain redirect... I really don't like asking people to do a bunch of stuff. I prefer to do as much of it myself, which is probably why I group things together(It's be stated that it's easier to do multiple things at once than over time), don't ask for the Sysop tag on AnimeBotSys and do that myself (When I remember), and I even went to the lengths of building the patch which lets ¦ work in WikiTables as an alias to | so parserfunctions can be used more efficiently so that someone else wouldn't half to do it. Then again, I have a habit of making people read to much whenever I put up messages. *sigh* ~Dantman(talk) tricks  May 3, 2007 @ 10:06 (UTC)


 * This seems quite a big project. Could you please create a product description of it for the techteam so they understand exactly what's needed from them in this? Angela talk 18:08, 4 May 2007 (UTC)


 * Ok, I already have Project info on what it's about, but If you mean technical info on exactly what the setups (SITENAME, namespaces, title, etc...) and how it relates to other wiki then I'll make a page for that under the User:Dantman/GE Extended page which is already listing just the start of the extensions I'm building for the project. ~Dantman(talk) tricks May 4, 2007 @ 19:48 (UTC)


 * Done, User:Dantman/GE Extended/Technical Overlay details the classes, individual wiki information and their technical setup, and also theoretical ideas for the future collected together. ~Dantman(talk) tricks May 4, 2007 @ 22:48 (UTC)


 * Thanks. I've sent Johnq a link to this since. Angela talk 18:58, 5 May 2007 (UTC)

Wikia Messages
Angela, What is the policy on the length of time a Wiki is featured under Wikia Messages? Last week the Heroes wiki was placed on it but only for about two days. Since then the Halo wiki has been featured for almost a week. Please respond on my user talk page. Thanks Jdray 17:53, 3 May 2007 (UTC)

Test skins (?) in kwish
Hi Angela,

I saw that the magazines skins, as well as some other skins where installed in Kwish. I guess this was done since I agreed to help testing them... in any case, most of them don't really work. When I try to use them, the page is not displayed. One thing I did is CSS inspection and it found many errors in the skins. Please let me know if you want additional info or want me to do some specific tests, etc. --Oshani 18:08, 3 May 2007 (UTC)


 * These aren't properly in use on most wikis yet, but they will be in a couple of weeks. We'll send out more information when these are launched. Angela talk 18:08, 4 May 2007 (UTC)


 * BTW I really like the new smoke and slate skins although I do agree with some of Hu's comments below (especially the one about too many colors). I would be happy to have an RTL version in Kwish. If you need help with testing RTL versions or translating the skin specific texts to Hebrew, please let me know. --Oshani 12:58, 6 May 2007 (UTC)

Smoke skin
I've just noticed that there's work on a new skin, and I've taken a look at the screenshots. I have a few concerns, and I hope this is the right place to put them:


 * Will there still be sidebars and sitenotices? Those are very useful on Novelas and quite possibly on other sites as well.
 * There's too much wasted space (blank space) on the new skin.
 * The ad boxes now have color!? That'll likely be irritating.
 * Some things, such as Share, don't have to be so prominent--maybe at bottom of page...
 * Everything is too flowery--there's too many colors, which makes it rather distracting.
 * Will the RateThisArticle function work on Monobook?

...though on the other hand a more decorative site may attract more users.

--Yunzhong Hou 21:36, 3 May 2007 (UTC)


 * There will still be a sidebar, though it will be on the right instead of the left, leaving more room for the article content. I'm not sure if the old style sitenotice will show up in the new skin, but there will be a new messaging system as an alternative.
 * The idea of leaving more space is to make the page easier to read. I don't feel it's wasted if it helps people to find the content more easily and it does look better from a design perspective.
 * Do you mean the content of the ad or the white backgrond it's on? I think the background will be able to be changed in the same way it is now. For example, has a different color background for its ads.
 * The reason we're making the share links more prominent is so people can use these to bring in new users to their wiki. Many wikis are really inactive because no one knows about them, so this is an important feature.
 * Some of the new features will require you to use the new skin, but if you want to continue using monobook without those, you can do.
 * Angela talk 18:08, 4 May 2007 (UTC)

More worries
I still have some worries, though, and often because I'm quite a perfectionist.

The sidebar's too big, and although the changes say that they've moved the article to "front and center", actually it's moved down and shifted left in comparison with Monobook. Now the sitenotice (with the logo, "this wiki", and "most popular" are too prominent, take up too much space, and show up on every page, shifting the real content downward. Whereas Monobook has 70% space available for actual text, Smoke only has 35% available, due in part to the immense sitenotice and immense sidebar. Much of this is because of the vast amount of wasted space - often due to the wording. Is "Edit / contribute" more effective than a tiny pencil&paper image that serves the same purpose? Are the headers "search", "expert tools", "this special page", "this article", "navigation", and "participation" really necessary, or can they be readily deduced from the content of each individual box?

The one good point is that now that the ad is limited to just a corner, there's a bit less wasted space along the right side of immense articles. But since the new sidebar is almost twice as large as the original sidebar, much of this benefit is cancelled out.

To all but the newest users, the new sitenotice is not very useful, with perhaps the link to Forum. Also, it may be a good idea to allow the sitenotice and sidebar to be customizable per individual user, ie. so that we can create our own links for it.

Parts of the sidebar and sitenotice ought to be hideable, while "navigation" and "participate" have redundant links. Meanwhile, the personal bar ("me, talk, prefs, watchlist, contribs, logout") is placed near the center of the page, and is thus too prominent.

When using the search engine, typing in "M", for example, generates a list of other links, and then when I press enter after typing in the rest of the phrase, the rest of the phrase disappears! Maybe make it so that the dropdown list has to be selectable. The beta search engine doesn't work well and keeps saying "Sorry! An error occured during your search. Please check your query." It doesn't even allow users to start new pages after searching for them.

Sorry, but the yellow is a bit irritating to the eye. I think I once learned that yellow is the MOST irritating color, while the cool colors (green, blue, violet) are calming colors. This goes with article section headers as well.

PS#1. The "printable version" link is too major for who would be using it (not researchers, after all). PS#2. I like the bar at the very, very bottom--it's concise.

--Yunzhong Hou 15:12, 8 May 2007 (UTC)

OH, and another issue. In the event that text in the article spills over, such as when an image is uploaded, or when a table gets very large, the article expands, covering up almost all of the sidebar except for possibly the search engine. --Yunzhong Hou 15:26, 8 May 2007 (UTC)

Reqiust
Hi! My desire is those: close please given project this my personal desire of the man who has opened this project. — Afinogenoff ¾ 08:31, 4 May 2007 (UTC)


 * We're looking into the problems with this and other Russian wikis now. Angela talk 18:08, 4 May 2007 (UTC)

Geomag wiki upgra de request
Angela, thanks to you and Jimbo for setting up Wikia: I've never setup a wiki before, and I'm enjoying having a place to funnel my Geomag enthusiasm.

I'd like to get the mediawiki instance upgraded from 1.9.3 to 1.10a - whom do I lobby to get this to happen? I was surprised when searching around to find that the perl wikia (which is rather inactive) has been upgraded.

best regards, --Karl Horton 17:05, 4 May 2007 (UTC) --Karl Horton 17:05, 4 May 2007 (UTC)


 * Hi Karl. I'm glad you're enjoying it! All wikis will be upgraded within the next couple of weeks. We started with the smallest wikis which explains why Perl was does already. Angela talk 18:08, 4 May 2007 (UTC)

Great, thanks - our wiki is very image-dependent, so being able to pull in directly from flckr will be a boon.

--204.2.160.7 18:48, 4 May 2007 (UTC)

Signature Issues...
Is it possible to change my signature on the Central Wikia? As in, my sig is set to = User:Max2/sig so It is easier to use on other Wikis, and I can't use it here. Can you help? User:Max2


 * You should be able to put something like this into your monobook.js:

mwCustomEditButtons[mwCustomEditButtons.length] = { "imageFile": "http://www.wikia.com/skins/common/images/button_sig.png", "speedTip": "central signature", "tagOpen": "--Max2 (talk)", "tagClose": "", "sampleText": ""};
 * Edit the 'tagOpen' line to modify the sig you want to have, here. --Splarka (talk) 07:56, 5 May 2007 (UTC)

Request for an IRC channel cloak
Could I please have a ' ' IRC channel cloak for freenode. My nick there is ' ' which currently has a ' ' cloak. Thank you in advance. -- 19:27, 4 May 2007 (UTC)


 * This should be working soon. Angela talk 18:58, 5 May 2007 (UTC)

ComputerRPG issues
For some reason, it is listing 48 wanted pages, but for a number of them, trying to find out what links there returns 0 results. Is there a bug in the counting, or is there a bug in the tracking of links?

Also, c:ComputerRPG is just linking to http://computerrpg, which on Opera and Firefox gets interpreted as http://computerrpg.com, instead of ''' http://computerrpg. (current domain)'''. That probably needs a fix. -PanSola 08:57, 5 May 2007 (UTC)


 * Yes, this has happened on a few wikis. I'm not sure why, but it has been reported as a bug. Angela talk 18:58, 5 May 2007 (UTC)

Desysop
Hello! I ask to deprive sysop of the following user: Кalan. The reasons: vandalism, blocking of the sysop, plays with the interface. I ask to make it urgently!! (Kalan) — Afinogenoff ¾ 10:49, 5 May 2007 (UTC)
 * +1!--Medved&#39; 10:53, 5 May 2007 (UTC)


 * I can see no vandalism by Kalan, and he only blocked Afinogenoff for one day because of vandalism to the main page. Improving the MediaWiki namespace is no reason for removing someone's adminship. Angela talk 17:33, 5 May 2007 (UTC)
 * I ask to give the rights sysop to the user Afinogenoff, as he helps me in struggle with vandalism. Medved&#39; 17:57, 5 May 2007 (UTC)
 * That isn't going to happen. Afinogenoff has been vandalising many wikis with sockpuppet accounts and is not, therefore, suitable for adminship. Angela talk 18:00, 5 May 2007 (UTC)
 * No? Afinogenoff didn't vandalising! But Kalan vandalised very much, but, no, he didn't, but he created revolution in our project!--Medved&#39; 18:54, 5 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Can you provide a link to show where Kalan vandalised please? Angela talk 18:57, 5 May 2007 (UTC)


 * Urgent! There are no burocrates in our project (History Wikia), Kalan dimmised them in full! No, user:Kalan is must desisoping in History Wikia!--Medved&#39; 18:35, 5 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Kalan is not able to remove bureaaucrats. This was done by Rieke, a member of Wikia's Community Team and is explained at w:c:ru.history:Обсуждение:Заглавная страница. Angela talk 18:57, 5 May 2007 (UTC)
 * But why there isn't any burocrats in History Wikia?--Medved&#39; 19:25, 5 May 2007 (UTC)
 * The only thing bureaucrats can do is make new admins and there is no need for that at this time. We're waiting for the current problems with this wiki to settle down before finding community consensus for new bureaucrats. Angela talk 19:29, 5 May 2007 (UTC)
 * And, when will appearing a new bureaucrats in this project?--Medved&#39; 19:39, 5 May 2007 (UTC)
 * There isn't a specific timeframe for this. If admins are needed, then staff can create those. We need to wait for these problems to be resolved and see if there is anyone trustworthy that the entire community supports to be a bureaucrat there. Right now, many users are editing maliciously with duplicate accounts, so it is not a good time to assign new access levels to anyone. Angela talk 19:46, 5 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Sorry, but we a very need about new bureaucrats, please! It's very important!--Medved&#39; 20:09, 5 May 2007 (UTC)
 * As I said, the only thing that bureaucrats can do is make admins, so please can you tell me why you think there is a need for them? If new admins are needed, staff will do that. Angela talk 20:16, 5 May 2007 (UTC)


 * But certainly Kalan must be desysoping in History Wiki!--Medved&#39; 16:55, 6 May 2007 (UTC)


 * No, it not Kalan that is doing that. Only staff can desysop people. Please see w:c:ru.history:Обсуждение:Заглавная страница. Angela talk 16:58, 6 May 2007 (UTC)

StarCraft wiki background
One of the editors at the StarCraft wiki wanted to know how to give a background skin to the wiki. Could you show us how to do that? PsiSeveredHead 02:38, 6 May 2007 (UTC)

New StarCraft admin
I'm the StarCraft wiki sysop.

ED has been a huge help at the StarCraft wiki. I wanted to make him an admin but can't figure out how to do it - I got an error mesasge. Could you show me how? PsiSeveredHead 00:40, 8 May 2007 (UTC)

The letter
To you letter - inquiry about new wiki. .:София:. 04:16, 6 May 2007 (UTC)


 * Afinogenoff, please stop signing in with so many accounts. Angela talk 04:21, 6 May 2007 (UTC)
 * No, this is not afinogenoff (vjacheslav) this is his sister . .:София:. 04:41, 6 May 2007 (UTC)

Removal of TMNTPedia Admin
on TMNTPedia we have an admin who has declared himself inactive and not made any edits or contributions in a couple of months, I would like to have his sysop rights removed so as to protect from possible issues in the future. Squishy Vic is the user in question.

Thank you,  N.Y.N.E. Comlink 10:24, 6 May 2007 (UTC)


 * Ok. Angela talk 16:01, 6 May 2007 (UTC)

Hmm, what "issues" might result in the future from having an inactive admin retain sysop rights? Just wondering :) --Yunzhong Hou 22:25, 6 May 2007 (UTC)


 * One problem is they come back two years later and have no understanding of the wiki's current policies and community and delete stuff the community is happy to have. Small wikis can change direction very quickly, which is one reason to keep only active admins. However, usually there's no problem, so unless someone requests it, admins aren't often removed. Angela talk 01:12, 7 May 2007 (UTC)


 * T_T You mean I actually could have requested the De-Admining of Alyssachanpc from The Gaiapedia who said the site was affiliated with a site which appears now to be an inactive anti-pokemon site and named the unregistered fake foundation the wiki was affiliated with relatively the same name of a registered Foundation, and of course none of the community actually considers to be a proper admin for the current wiki. T_T I thought a request like removing that would be declined. ~Dantman(talk) tricks May 7, 2007 @ 01:24 (UTC)

Discrepancies
I--just--saw--a graphical google-ad about Microsoft on the runescape wiki.

Then there's also the "tip of the day" at the bottom of the sidebar in some wikis.

Sometimes wikia spotlight showed up above the google ads.

Are we still trying to get the bottom box of the wikis fixed? It's constantly fluctuating, sometimes with 2-4 columns, sometimes without a central teal dot (and why is there a dot anyway, there's no list) and sometimes either below or to the right of the sidebar.

Different wikis have different abilities, it seems. Abilities that don't seem to be explained by Mediawiki messages.

Hmm, I just wonder what's going on... --Yunzhong Hou 22:35, 6 May 2007 (UTC)


 * Runescape has graphic ads so that gold-selling google text ads don't appear. The tip of a day is a new feature we're trying that can give users useful information about editing the wiki. The spotlight does move since we're testing out how much more effective it is when it's at the top. I'm not sure what you mean by a bottom box. Some wikis have been upgraded to 1.10 which means they have new features. All wikis should be on this within the next couple of weeks. See inside.wikia.com for more news about upcoming changes, like the new skin. Angela talk 01:12, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

Global sysops
Hi. I would love to hear your opinion here. Szoferka 04:05, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

Name and Title changes
Hi Angela, could you please change the Project name from "Gundam Wiki" to "The Gundam Wiki"? Also, I would like to change the title of the project to "The Gundam Wiki" as well.


 * After some thoughts on that, it might not be such a good idea to change the namespace to that. However, I'll still like to change the title to "The Gundam Wiki".   - Valiant (talk) 15:59, 29 April 2007 (UTC)

Translation Wikia
Hello, I've asked you if someone could change the project namespace from "Translation:" to "TranslateWiki:", but it's still not done. It's just a question, so I know that you aren't forgotten. 19:04, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

New preview option
The new preview option is interesting, but maybe it shouldn't work with a vanilla background, as it'll confuse certain users. Maybe try a checkered grey-white background like the ones that certain graphics softwares use to signify that part of an image is transparent?

Also, there's a glitch: if you don't preview before saving, it doesn't save! Or, it only saves whatever you have when you last previewed it. This can be an un-welcome turn for experienced users who often make changes quickly without previewing (and who generally don't make too many errors either). --Yunzhong Hou15:21, 8 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Actually, I beleve the glitch is that the Save Changes button dosen't work correctly. You need to hit the save link in the upper right. I've lost small edits because of that. And lost major stuff with the fact that things no longer stick in my back history, so when I click something by accident, I lose eveything I didn't preview or copy to the clipboard. I'd say WikiWYG should be combined with LifeSaver. ~Dantman(talk) tricks May 8, 2007 @ 18:51 (UTC)

Beta search logo
Aside from the previously mentioned problems with the beta searcher, the logo is also very irritating for any sites with a colored background as MediaWiki:Monobook.css default. Can we replace it with a transparent image? (Why do we need an image anyway?) --Yunzhong Hou 16:26, 8 May 2007 (UTC)

/lodz.wikia.com/
First of all - sorry for my bad English. Anyway bad is always better than none at all.

Hi!

I thought it will develop nicely, but now... I am the only active user on this wikia (lodz.wikia). (Ok not active by the time but alive for sure). Could you please contact user Kamil Kozłowski in order to check if he's all right? He's the founder ol lodz.wikia, but he seems to abandon the project (before it really started). I've just started to think something bad happened to this guy...

tajemniczy RycerzYeti Mów 18:38, 8 May 2007 (UTC) - I write because according to this action: you know what I'm talking about.

Wikimedia Upgrades?
Hi, Angela. I notice that Wikimedia upgrades have been going up across the board. Or rather, I would not have noticed them unless I noticed the in-wiki search and Firefox search plugin not working, as well as being unable to edit the front page of my wiki without being logged out in the process in receiving a, "this page has been protected, blah blah blah" message. Are we going to be seeing stability any time soon?