User talk:Dantman

Thank You
Thank You --Pinta  21:43, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

Thanks. Max2


 * Good God thank you. --Ohmyn0 15:20, 27 April 2007 (UTC)

Deletion tips
Hey, saw you're message to Angela in recent changes: if you want to permanently axe bad edits, you could try deleting the page, then restoring only the bad edits, then moving the page to another one like User:Dantman/delete or something, then deleting them there. Then they'll be out of the article history for good.

And by the way, the thing on the top of your talk page is a link to starting a new section in Angela's talk page, not yours. I'm gonna fix it, but revert me if that's like, somehow intentional.  Scott ch  11:11, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
 * T_T That wasn't intentional. Though just to note, editing that here won't do much good. The stuff for my userpage is all shared from the Animepedia. The stuff should be edited there so that all my pages are affected when I clone and bot it out. But it's not the edits that I'm trying to kill, it's uploaded pronographic images which need removing from the server. ~Dantman(talk) --Manson 07:16, 30 October 2007 (UTC) tricks Apr 16, 2007 @ 19:17 (UTC)

Hey
Hey its halofrkxl admin of fma.wikia.com and i would like it if you could help edit the wikia and add to it. Thanks.:)

Dismiss Sitenotice
hi Dantman. I accidentally clicked "Dismiss" on Fantendo. Is there any way to make it show again? Max2

Bot flags
Is it the Ghost in the Shell Wiki where you want AnimeBot and DantmanAWB to have the bot flag or did you mean something else? Angela talk 19:05, 1 May 2007 (UTC)

Bot
Hi Dantman. I'm not that good at bot-creating things, so if you would create a bot family then it would be nice (: It's on []. The word to be corrected is "Optrædender", and the word there shall be written is "Optrædener". Is it possible for me to do it without your help afterwars, if i discover more wrong words? you can just answer here. - Bakse 16:27, 12 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Btw, as i said before, i no nothing about bots, so if you need Admin-status on Danish Wookieepedia, then contact me - Bakse 17:04, 12 May 2007 (UTC)

I created a bot family for you. Click the raw link beside the starwars_family file at my Pywikipediabot page. And use Save As or whatever your browser has to save it under the name it shows families/starwars_family.py which of course the families folder is inside of your pywikipediabot setup. Follow the instructions at meta to setup things first. You can use this command (cd to whatever directory the framework is in first)  As you see the in the first "" is the thing to replace, and the second "" has the thing to replace with. -start:! tells it to do every page in the main namespace. If you want another namespace use something like -start:Wookieepedia: depending on what other namespace you want it to run in. You'll also half to ask one of the Community Staff such as Sannse to give an account Bot status then you can tell the Pywikipedia bot framework to use that user to do the work. ~Dantman(talk) tricks May 13, 2007 @ 08:10 (UTC)


 * Thank you very much for your help! I'm really glad that you helped me :) I have asked Sannse, but there could be some places that I don't understand in the bot setup. I'll contact you if there's things i don't understand (: - Bakse 18:16, 13 May 2007 (UTC)

Well I wrote the whole thing of :)
 * Hi! It's me again. I just can't find out what I'm doing wrong. I have saved the raw file as families_starwars_family.py and made the user-config.py file as the guide said. Then when i open run and type it as the guide says, this message is shown:

Microsoft Windows XP [version 5.1.2600]  Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp.  C:\Documents and settings\Bjarke\cd\ C:\>cd\Python25 C:\Python25>python families_starwars_family.py  Traceback : File "families_starwars_family.py", line 2, in         Import family ImportError: No module named family C:\Python25>login.py  'login.py' blev ikke genkendt som en intern eller ekstern kommando, et program eller hatchfil.

(The last part is danish: 'login.py' was not recognized as an internal or external commando, a program or hatchfile.)

Maybe it's just me who is dum at this, but i just can't get it to work (: you can answer here. Don't laugh to much at me :D - Bakse 18:33, 15 May 2007 (UTC)


 * You're not supposed to try to run a family, that would never work. The framework automatically grabs the family file it needs. Also, it's supposed to be families/starwars_family.py so it's not going to work right. You'll need to save the file under the name starwars_family.py inside the families directory inside the directory you saved the pywikipediabot framework. ~Dantman(talk) tricks May 15, 2007 @ 18:40 (UTC)


 * Hmm.. okay. I found out with the directory.. and now i will try to come further (: - Bakse 19:01, 15 May 2007 (UTC)

JS drop down menu
Hi. I added a monobook javascript to have a language drop down menu here. I didn't write it my self, so I'm not very sure how it works. But I tried to make another one for choosing a range of Occupations from another drop down menu. Would you be able to take a look at it and tell me if I'm on the right path here it is. I tested it and it doesn't seem to work. Again, I have no previews experience with js so I might be making everything wrong. --Steinninn 14:51, 16 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Would it be to much trouble for you to try and write it? I tried to understand these terms that you are using, but it's a bit complicated for a newbie. --Steinninn 18:45, 16 May 2007 (UTC)
 * So, was it all just the wrong id in the template? Anyway. Do you mind if I take you off the sysop list, just so that people know who to contact for help. I just don't know if or how I can do that. --Steinninn 19:21, 17 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks, I will. At least I have one person out there that can help me with sysop jobs in the future. Well, I'm all good for now at least. After your help I'm all set to go (c: --Steinninn 20:00, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

Admin
Hello Daniel. You're now a Central Administrator. Please let me know if you have any questions about this :-) --rieke 20:13, 22 May 2007 (UTC)

Congratulations Dantman! Phillip (talk) 20:16, 22 May 2007 (UTC)


 * Congratulations! (Edit conflicted) I'm sure you'll do a fine job! :) G .He (Talk!) 20:17, 22 May 2007 (UTC)


 * Congratulations from me too, Dantman! :D


 * I know you'll make a great admin, finally we have someone who knows a lot about bots. (And now, the Cabal would like to push you for Wikia's Technical Team. ;) --Jack Phoenix (Contact) 20:42, 22 May 2007 (UTC)


 * Lol, interesting... ^_^ Tech Team is nice... But unless there's a way for me to work, from here without having to travel, and with very light work for awhile I can't take that right now. October 1 is when my post-secondary education starts, and I have 6 quarters of that, then I should probably work in the Gaming Industry for a little while at least before I'm stable enough to move over to working for Wikia. ~Dantman(talk) tricks May 22, 2007 @ 21:50 (UTC)
 * Wow! Congratulations! Central Wikia Administrator...that's an honorable badge to wear...and you don't even mention it on your shared userpage! Such modesty! ;-) Again...you have my cheerful congratulations on your successful RfA. I wish you good luck, and as an Uninvited Junior Internist Cabalist of the Central Wikia Cabal, yes, Tech Team would be awesomeness with Dantman. *RR stares at Datrio and Splarka* Umm...not saying that the current Tech Team is un-awesomness. ;-) Cheers, Relen tless Recu sant http://www.wikia.com/skins/common/progress-wheel.gif TALK •  WORK   • SPEAK 01:15, 26 May 2007 (UTC)
 * ^_^ It's on User:Dantman/Registration List. Though I admit, I haven't moved central into the Administrated Wikia section on my userpage. It may be best for me to merge the sections. ^_^ At least something good may come out of the wiki-tools.com project me an JaeSharp are working on. ~Dantman(talk) tricks May 26, 2007 @ 01:29 (UTC)
 * That reminds me...I *need* to steal parts of your awesome userpage and related subpages. ;-) Cheers, Relen tless Recu sant http://www.wikia.com/skins/common/progress-wheel.gif TALK •  WORK   • <font color="A9A9A9">SPEAK 01:34, 26 May 2007 (UTC)

video game job industry?
Dear Dantman,

Check this out. ;-)

Cheers,

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 * I only see Graphic Design stuff on that page. ^_^ I'm going to the Art Institute of Vancouver's Visual & Game programming course. My area is the big gaming hub. There's something very interesting to note. My graduation is March 2008, and Electronic Arts big hiring spree where they're going to be bringing in a lot of programmers starts April 2008. (Though I thought it was earlier) I might half to recheck the dates, because I remember something about my graduation and portfolio fairs overlapping with EA's hiring spree. ~Dantman(talk) tricks May 26, 2007 @ 01:34 (UTC)

sorry
hey sorr. I have never gotten the pictures to get on a userpage with out uploading them. some of them I don't know where I got them but definately not wikis. sorry. Is there something I should do to fix that? Stryker.


 * hye, I relize what I did what was illegal, but can you help me put them back on? Stryker.


 * okay I understand that its in the history and I'm sorry I had no idea. but is there a way that I can post them on my userpage with copyrights? Stryker.


 * all right thats cool then if I can't do that. Am I allowed to put polls on my page? Stryker.


 * wait can't the pictures have the copyrights beneth them or do could I put them at the bottem of the page or if its too illegal for me do I just leave them alone all together? Stryker.


 * oaky no pictures, but could I put polls on my page? Stryker.


 * okay is this legal? Plus are we cool with the picture thing, I'm sorry if I caused problems but I like pictures cause I think it brightens things up. anyways are we cool? I mean like ur not mad or anything? Stryker. PS. I'm really sorry about this whole thing. Stryker.

Okay I have a picture I like but before I do something illegal could you show me how to do it. I like the popeye picture Popeye-a-date-to-skate. How would I do it from there? Stryker


 * Can you just do that for me? Stryker.


 * Okay go to that site and click on the search and type in Popeye. It will then have a couple of pics the one I would like is the one with Popeye and his girlfriend. hes holding her if that helps.


 * I see your busy but I am not allowed to put those pictures on my page. Yes I know EOD but could I put other pictures instead? I will find the copyrights if I can. Stryker.

Okay thats too hard so I give up. I can live. Are we as pals okay with me accidently doing that? Stryker.

Help!
Dantman, as you are an admin, can you rename an account? I created the account "Barraki" and I think I mistiped my password. And I didn't enter an e-mail adress. It is possible to rename or delete the old account, for me to create a new one with this name? Thnk you. 160.228.157.202 09:12, 4 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Accounts can't be renamed or deleted because of the shared user database. But if you talk to the staff a tech might be able to reset your password. ~Dantman(talk) tricks Jun 4, 2007 @ 13:25 (UTC)

Congratulations!
Dear Dantman,

I formally award you the Bronze Taskstar (http://images.wikia.com/central/images/e/ed/Bronze_taskstar.png) for your great work with Template:Era and Template:Eraicon and their associated pictures on Halopedia. Add it to your userpage somewhere, if you deign. ;-)

Cheers,

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Logo lotus domino
Dear Dan the man, I enjoy your image Logo_lotus.jpg and ask you if I can use it as logo in the wikia 'domino'. Bye,

--user:Eurobas 20:59, 24 June 2007 (UTC)

Help with Skin
Hi. "Somehow" I managed to screw up this skin and accidentally I omitted some messages that should not be hidden. Namely on the Wikia navbar and on the bottom tab. Can you help? ―  T hailog  16:25, 25 June 2007 (UTC)


 * To fix it remove  from #footer and the   line. ~Daniel Friesen (DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire) (talk) tricks  Jun 26, 2007 @ 03:59 (UTC)


 * Thank you! ―  T hailog  15:50, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

Hey... stuff...
As you quite possibly already know, I am quite good at beguiling Jack Phoenix to do my will. I've got access in #swfanon, an account on wiki.jackphoenix.com, etc. Anyway, since I've got an account there, I started talking to him aboot the index.php?title= stuff, he said you'll fix it, so I said I could fix it and asked for SUPREME ACCESS!!!, and he just said to ask you for all the sexehness so I'm like you and can fix stuff like that and do crazeh smart stuff an' all that... so if you have any idea what I just said, I'm asking you for all the sexehness, like he said to. =D BYE!!! -- GPT ( talk )(eating) 22:09, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

P.S. You know all those times I hugged you and all that stuff that you don't like? I was just messing around, you know, but if you really didn't like it, I'm sorry, and I won't do it again.


 * BTW, I stole a bit of your sig. =P -- NOTASTAFF  GPT ( talk )(eating) 07:00, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

O_O
well...for one thing i didn't know there was anything other than, but i guess i just couldn't notice the obvious stuff :/   Phil.e.   [Talk to me] 15:02, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

Thank you for improving Genealogy
Genealogy:Template:Usedcommons now works just fine. I hope we keep you in the team! Robin Patterson 14:40, 26 July 2007 (UTC)

Turn Your Userpage into a Template?
Hey Dantman, Think you could turn your userpage/talk page into a Template for general use on the WikiSocial Wikia? If you'd like we can talk on MSN or you can leave a message on my Talk page. Doesn't matter which one you use.  Will SWC  01:01, 28 July 2007 (UTC)
 * The elements used wouldn't really work well to be used. The only reason I do it this way is because I can't edit CSS for what others see on my userpage. If I could, I'd do this in a much different manor. It doesn't work right in other skins, and because there are no skin specific Magic Words I can't fix it up to work right in other skins. This is just a cheep hack, since it's for one wiki it would be best to come up with another method using your Common.css and using Skinname.css to tweak it to work right in all skins. A better way for the skins to be viewed would be if Wikia had an improved version of the UserStyles Extension installed. ~ NOTASTAFF Daniel Friesen (DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire) (talk) tricks Jul 28, 2007 @ 04:52 (UTC)

Add SyntaxHighlight on my wiki
Hi, on that post witch i make, i read your reply. If i use the SyntaxHighlight or the other that you say, is important to see later. Now i want only one that work. Can i install this only in my wiki, not as global?--Rodrigozanatta 20:36, 28 July 2007 (UTC)

Template:Morehubs
Hi Dantman -- I saw that you updated the Morehubs template and the hubs pages, to put the "More Hubs" button inside the box. Unfortunately, that messes up the centering of the title. Here's screenshots so you can compare. I'm going to move the button back up above the box. If you want to keep working on the design, please let me know, okay? I've been working a lot on these hubs, and I'd like to keep on top of layout changes. Thanks! -- <font color="Blue">Danny (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 18:26, 1 August 2007 (UTC)

PyWeek challenge
Hi Dantman -- stumbled across this Python programming challenge and thought you might be interested: http://media.pyweek.org/static/rules.html




 * Meh... my game programming days don't start for another 2 months... And then it won't be python, it'll be C++. ~ NOTASTAFF Daniel Friesen (DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire) (talk) (tricks) (current topic) Aug 20, 2007 @ 01:18 (UTC)

Adoption 2.0
Hi Dantman. The template you made at Template:Adoption 2.0/en isn't working with the new skins. (example). Is the idea of adoption 2.0 something you were just trying out? What is the aim of this compared with the original template? Angela (talk) 23:41, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

Wikia ACG
Hi Daniel: I saw that you renamed the Graphical Entertainment Project as Wikia ACG. I'm curious -- what does ACG stand for? -- <font color="Blue">Danny (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 08:36, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

http://mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:RudeProxyBlock
Hi,

is it possible to make RudeProxyBlock using a global list (like http://mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:SpamBlacklist does)? --MF-Warburg 14:26, 25 September 2007 (UTC)

i want........
i want to have a search box for searching my articles your Narupedia has asearch box what can i do to get this? and also what do you think of my main page User:Envidia

Login Failed. Wrong Password??
Hi Dantman. Can you help me with a problem related to login failure in a intranet wikipedia with bots? When i'm trying to login using the pywikipediabot module login.py in a intranet wikipedia, the response is Login Failed. Wrong Password??. Why does is happens considering that my username and password are correct and the user-config.py and the family.py files are good? Please, reply me to my mail diogonlopes@gmail.com. Thanks a lot.
 * It would be easiest to ask the pywikipediabot group for help. Just join #pywikipediabot on FreeNode.net. ~ NOTASTAFF Daniel Friesen (DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire) (talk) (tricks) (current topic) Oct 10, 2007 @ 16:21 (UTC)

Framing in Skin
Can you please help me with something? Why is it that this template is unframed on the main page when using the skin QuartzSlate? ―  T hailog  19:28, 12 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Addendum: This seems to happen too with this template on pages like this ―  T  hailog  20:26, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

It's because of the CSS you're using. The Main Page one for some reason is using CSS to be moved upwards for some stupid reason which is not needed. You can fix that one by removing the absolute positioning and using the old per-page css to hide the title bar on that page to get the same effect. The issue with the titleicons is due to how both MonoBook and Quartz have two different positioning, the way to fix that is to move the positioning css for the titleicons into the Common.css and add extra css to the quartz skins to fix the positioning. ~ NOTASTAFF Daniel Friesen (DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire) (talk) (tricks) (current topic) Oct 13, 2007 @ 03:14 (UTC)
 * I see. The problem is, I have absolutely no idea how to do that. Can you help? ―  T hailog  09:08, 13 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Maybe at some point... for now... done to much... ~ NOTASTAFF Daniel Friesen (DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire) (talk) (tricks) (current topic) Oct 13, 2007 @ 09:15 (UTC)


 * Hi. Can you please help me with this icons positioning problem? I'd like to start working on a costumized skin, and possibly propose it to be adopted, but I can't as long as I have unaligned icons. If you can't help, then can you at least refer me to someone who does? ―  T hailog  13:40, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

genealogy thanks you
I appreciate your stepping in and blocking the vandalism going on in the last hour. Cheers. <font color="#0A9DC2">~  <font color="#0DC4F2">Ph <font color="#3DD0F5">l <font color="#6EDCF7">o <font color="#9EE8FA">x  08:37, 13 October 2007 (UTC)

Database bug
Maybe you can't do anything about it but i'm sure you'll better than me who to contact about this :. TulipVorlax 08:16, 14 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Just notify one of the techs or staff. ~ NOTASTAFF Daniel Friesen (DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire) (talk) (tricks) (current topic) Oct 14, 2007 @ 08:50 (UTC)
 * Lol. You're right. I should do my dirty work myself. It just happen i've already reported a couple of thing to a couple of them... Anyways.. ;-) TulipVorlax 08:56, 14 October 2007 (UTC)

Thanks
Thanks for the HTML help, I am grateful!! Eulalia459678 of the Warrior.wikia.com wiki.

Hi Dantman
(I'm sorry, my English is bad)

I understand your words, thanks for your opportune remarks. Any my comment that you consider to be inopportune, would be grateful to you if you make me it know to analyze your words.

Good Lock!!!

--Manson 07:16, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia templates & HTMLTidy
rar Dantman,

GHe told me that you would have special solutions to make Wikipedia templates requiring Tidy to work on Wikia sites. I'd need to make Template:Infobox CVG and Template:Infobox Company to work for commandos.wikia.com - suggestions how to do it? Any help would be appreciated, since Wikipedia templates are quite scary things. :)

Thanks in advance! --Jack Phoenix (Contact) 22:15, 1 November 2007 (UTC)


 * The only solution I've ever had has been converting to WikiTables. ~ NOTASTAFF Daniel Friesen (DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire) (talk) (tricks) (current topic) Nov 2, 2007 @ 00:09 (UTC)

Naruto Latino
Ok. I see the point. Let's hope Nartuopedia and Naruto Latino can growth together, and also I have 1 question. How can an admin see the users of his wikia?

Impartial mediator for cross-wiki issues
Mediation is an important part of any wiki's development. However, I believe it is best if the wiki themselves set up a mediation process rather than have an outsider intervene. It's quite easy for wikis to adopt a process like Wikipedia's Mediation Cabal where users on a wiki simply help out others on their wiki. Angela (talk) 04:26, 4 November 2007 (UTC)


 * I think people are coming to central because they want what they perceive to be some "higher authority" to solve their problems for them. This isn't good for community development when they need to instead set up their own processes for dealing with these issues. I think a user group focused on the creation of mediation committees on wikis with problems would be better than trying to actually be their mediator. We have the same problem at Wikipedia with people emailing the board of trustees with their disputes. Angela (talk) 23:45, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

Request ban
Hi Dantman,

I think IES-Cedeira is quite clearly a sockpuppet of Manson, who was perma-banned by Angela.

Can you please perma-ban them, and delete the images they've uploaded.

Thanks,

Manticore Talk 19:03, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

HELP ME!!!
Hi Dantman, you may remember me. I found you on the IRC, and got you to help me with a picture of a book with text I couldn't get off. Anyway, on to business. I need a comprehensive HTML tutorial. I've been on the WWiki for a few months, and I need to learn HTML. I've tried a few, and they were... lacking. Can you help me??? If so, leave me a message on my talk page. I would be even more grateful to you than I am now.<BR> Thank you,<BR> Eulalia459678

Question
On the Redwall Wiki, there is a picture of a mouse beside the URL. How do they do that? Eulalia459678 ( Salamandastron ) 18:43, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

That's this bit of code in their w:c:redwall:MediaWiki:Monobook.css. /* the icon in front of the user name, single quotes in bg url to hide it from iemac */ li#pt-userpage, li#pt-anonuserpage, li#pt-login { background: url(http://images.wikia.com/redwall/images/d/d2/Matticon.gif) top left no-repeat; padding-left: 20px; text-transform: none; } Switch out the url for an image uploading on your wiki that you want. ~ NOTASTAFF Daniel Friesen (DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire) (talk) (tricks) (current topic) Nov 10, 2007 @ 01:43 (UTC)

Upper left corner image vanished
For some reason, the image at the upper left corner (links to http://starcraft.wikia.com/wiki/Main_Page main page]) for all StarCraft wikia pages vanished. I noticed this hasn't happened to any other wikias that I've visited, though.

I don't recall the name of the file, but it isn't in the list of recently deleted pages/images. I see you have aptitude in HTML stuff, which is something I'm lacking; I'm hoping you can take a look. PsiSeveredHead 04:36, 11 November 2007 (UTC)


 * Don't know what image you are talking about. But the logo shows up for me in MonoBook and Quartz. ~ NOTASTAFF Daniel Friesen (DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire) (talk) (tricks) (current topic) Nov 11, 2007 @ 05:28 (UTC)

Re:Categories
How do I fix the Categories, I am not an Admin. User:Kathleen.wright5 08:05, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

Gaming sub-cats
Role playing games and shooting games have its own sub-cats under Category:Gaming. I think there are enough wikis for strategy games to create a sub-cat for that too. -Afker 18:00, 12 November 2007 (UTC)


 * ^_^ Then create them... I was just removing red categories because a user was going around and creating bad category pages for every red category link they saw. ~ NOTASTAFF Daniel Friesen (DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire) (talk) (tricks) (current topic) Nov 13, 2007 @ 00:56 (UTC)

Pikipedia
Just to remind you about the discussion there. - Greenpickle 22:10, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

IRC
There is no one in the yu-gi-oh-duels channel. I don't think it's really worth spending tech time adding this until the channel is widely used by the wiki, though it sounds more like a spin-off project rather than anything related to the wiki itself, so I suggest they use java.freenode.net instead which allows access to any channel on freenode. Angela (talk) 03:51, 25 November 2007 (UTC)

eureka seven wikia
how can i join the anime wikia?

dynamic tree menu
Hi,

As dynamic tree menu by JavaScript that we talked about last year, how about it? If you don't intend to make it, please give me a tips to make.

Thanks,

--Yukichi / Shun (Talk) 03:55, 4 January 2008 (UTC)