Thread:DarkDragonMedeus/@comment-38729545-20190528140109/@comment-38729545-20190529045911

All I see is it is a desperate attempt to upgrade something based on statements from Sonic Shuffle which I don't even know if they are connected to the main Sonic games or not.

Honestly how we treat canonicity for the Sonic verse is what I am concerned about as well.

Anyway I take a look at Karmod and I will disagree with certain things.

"Honestly thats quite harsh, I get that back in like, a year or so, DmC and GoW we're seen un-upgradable after the mountain sized discussion, but imagine If one of the first bureaucrats of the wiki disapprove even the most reasonable of upgrades, like 4-B Cell, Tier 2 Pokemon, etc... back in 2012, only because he opposed the series.

It wouldnt feel right nor fair, but you cant do anything because he is the highest staff position and you are, say, a normal user back at that time, even If those tiers sound reasonable due to the jump in tiers you can make excuses about it because he just doesnt want them to be that high, thats why it feels that we are just hyping things up, previously in-accomplishable upgrades, now even average users without much support from staff can win those type of debates."

Okay arguing for a upgrade that has been rejected is based on using good reasoning and logic that suit a interpretation that is supported by the lore and story of any known fictional series. This is also included the setting and unique cosmologies of any fictional series.