User talk:Angela

Bugs
Please see Bug_reports. Conan
 * Special:Newimages I broke the internet. I'm guessing it's cuz we're on 1.4b3 instead of 1.4b5 which I'm running my testwiki on localhost with.  --Me at work 14:42, 1 Feb 2005 (PST)
 * Bug 67. Angela 14:47, 1 Feb 2005 (PST)

Thanks for community help!
I'm excited by the possibilities of using my new wiki at community.wikicities.com! Thanks again for your help. I've started loading in some information; as usual the main question becomes "How do I present this info in a way that's actually useful?" Interface, interface, interface has become the new "location, location, location". Pluckey 13:04, 4 Feb 2005 (PST)


 * I've just written a new help page at Help:Navigation. Let me know if you need any more information on this. Angela 14:21, 4 Feb 2005 (PST)

Say, I forgot to mention something. Do you think it would be better or worse to modify how this wiki appears in the List of Wikicities -- making it "Community Communication" instead of "Community"? I understand about the objective to make the name something "rememberable" ... I had originally considered the name "Communify" -- a quasi-made-up word incorporating "unifying community communication -- but that's just asking for trouble, what with its similarity to "community". Typos alone would vote against that, I suppose. I think it'd be fairly insane for me to expect anyone would even try to type in "communitycommunication.wikicities.com" so keeping the URL as just "community" would work fine for me. Any suggestions? - Pluckey 13:22, 4 Feb 2005 (PST)


 * Changing it to Community Communication in the list, and calling it that whenever you write about the wiki is fine. I'd advise against changing the URL or project namespace to that though simply because it's too long to type. Angela 14:21, 4 Feb 2005 (PST)


 * That's cool. Say, is changing the name to "Community Communication" in "The List O' Cities" something I can do (which obviously I haven't gleaned how yet) or something which requires your expert hand? :-) Pluckey 15:22, 4 Feb 2005 (PST)


 * First, something you can do is append colons before your text to make it threaded. Secondly, yes.  To start, I'd reccomend you middle click "what links here" to open it in a new tab (if you're not using firefox or another nice tabbing program then you will have a lot tougher time doing this).  This way you can see what other pages you'll have to "fix".  Then, 'move" the original page to the new name (Community Communication).  After that, go and open all the pages that link to it in new tabs, and find where it links and correct it.  On the Wikicity Descriptions page, it's as a template, , which will be changed to  .  The rest of it is simplle wikilink changing (i think).


 * But, although you can attempt it, I'd reccomend it not be done by you as Angela may have some special other things to do, that I am not aware of. Easier to mess it up doing it on your own than to allow someone else to make the possible mistakes :) --Me at work 15:45, 4 Feb 2005 (PST)


 * Ah ha! Stacking colons creates more indentations. Now I know. Secondly, I agree -- this is probably beyond my limited set of expertise (Sunday marks my first week of using a wiki) & I'd gladly accept any help on this minor issue. However, and I may be misunderstanding what you're proposing, Me at work, but won't moving the page to a new location also change the URL (from community.wikicities to communitycommunication.wikicities)? I'd like to retain the current existing URL -- but change what shows up in the List of Wikicities list from "Community" to "Community Communication". Hope this makes some kinda sense! Pluckey 16:51, 4 Feb 2005 (PST)


 * Replied at your talk page. Angela 23:03, 4 Feb 2005 (PST)

Mediawiki 1.4b6
''An attacker could craft a URL which, when visited by a particular logged-in user, would execute arbitrary JavaScript code on the user's browser in the wiki's site context. This attack has been blocked, and as an extra precaution the user CSS and JavaScript subpage support is now disabled by default. Sites which want this ability may set $wgAllowUserCss and $wgAllowUserJs in LocalSettings.php.''

Sounds to me like "Oh noes, someone's figured out how to change someone elses javascript". I can't really understand how a page that only the user who owns it can edit is a security flaw. Seriously. It's like saying "We've killed the mediawiki namespaces after we found out an admin could potentially put bad words there and it'd show up on the entire site!"

I don't understand the reasoning, and more importantly, I miss my customizations. I have seen some great stuff done with user css modding (from mozcom:User:LouCypher) and bet they are also not happy about this. The list of fixes mentions it (third from the end) but doesn't link to bugzilla or any explanation of the problem, other then somehow an attacker can show a logged in user some js? --Me at work 22:06, 4 Feb 2005 (PST)


 * Wikipedia has it enabled, so I don't see why we shouldn't. I'll see if I can get it switched back on. Angela

Interwiki Map
Hey, are you ever going to run the script that generates the map? I don't think it's ever been run seeing how many of the older links (suchas creatures:, mozcom:) still aren't working. I haven't actually ever run it myself as I didn't have python on the windows testbox... Ah well, any estimate on when that'll happen? --Me at work 10:31, 7 Feb 2005 (PST)


 * Bug 60. I mentioned this to Jason on IRC today. I'm not sure what the problem is. Angela 18:26, 7 Feb 2005 (PST)
 * The interwiki tag idea is ready to be implemented, and I demonstrated how I would do it (but you administrate this wiki and may have a better plan) on Mozilla Community. --Me at work 21:30, 9 Feb 2005 (GMT)
 * Yes, I think it would good to add that. I'd prefer the URL at the end of the description though. Angela 22:18, 9 Feb 2005 (GMT)

Boxes on a main page
Hi Angela, Any chance of some help please with getting used to doing boxes for a main page? I've been trying to re jig the SCA21 main page in response to comments and intended redesign. After a lot of hit and miss I seem to have got something reasonably how I wanted it, but I'm fairly in the dark as to how. I couldn't find any clear help bits in the places I looked. Wasn't sure what word is used(?) Presume box is assumed to be subset of Table(?). I had a lot of problems from preview not looking like saved version. I copied some mark-up from G Knowledge, and I thought I remembered some problem with this before, but couldn't find your reply. As it seemed to come out so differently so many times it made me wonder if, even though it seems to come out OK now on my browser and computer, is it coming out OK on others?

The mark-up people seem to use for simple boxes seems to vary so much in different examples I tried fathoming out. As there's maybe a fairly common need to put stuff in boxes, particularly for main pages, community portals, etc where often a lot is wanted towards the top, wouldn't it be an idea for there to be some clearer guidance on this somewhere? Or if it already exists some clearer signposting to it?

I'm hoping to change the photo used regularly, but would like to get more confidence in creating what seems ought to be fairly simple effects. Thanks for all your other help and suggestions by the way, Cheers, Philralph 11:23, 7 Feb 2005 (PST)


 * It looks great. I check in both Firefox 1 and IE 6, and it looks the same in both. There isn't help specifically on boxes, though since they're made of tables, the help at Help:Table should be useful. The possibilities for table design vary so widely that I don't think a help page can give you an example template to use. I think the best way to do main pages is to just copy the wikitext from another wiki and adapt that design.


 * I'm surprised about the preview not looking right. Which browser are you using and what sort of differences were there?


 * You might find it easier to update the picture if you moved it to a template. See the example at SCA21:User:Angela/Main Page (diff). If you had the main page like this, you just need to edit SCA21:Template:Featured picture to change the image, rather than trying to find the image code hidden amongst the rest of the main page. Angela 11:57, 7 Feb 2005 (PST)


 * Hi, Angela  Thanks for this. I've changed to using the template as you suggest.


 * I'm normally using Firefox 1. The main difference between preview and saved versions was in the relative width of the two columns. By trial and error I got to a combination of 46% and 26% which seemed to come out OK (eventually on both preview and saved versions, although a mystery as to why) with a certain width to the picture (I'd had problems getting the text to start beneath the picture, so had also been experimenting with different widths to the picture) As I remember in response to a similar questions you'd said something about the percentages having to add to greater than or less than a particular figure, or better still move to some kind of way of avoiding percentages, but I don't remember what that was, or know how to do this. I probably won't change the picture more than monthly to start with, but as it'll almost certainly be a different shape, I'll need to get more used to finding a way of fixing the column widths to the desired effect indepedent of the picture shape. Philralph 02:24, 8 Feb 2005 (PST)


 * I think the percentages need to add up to 100%. I'm not sure what the best way to make sure the image always fits is though. Angela 16:31, 8 Feb 2005 (GMT)

Inter Wiki Links
Hello Angela

I have noticed we have zero links to other Wikicities from within Peace Wiki. In attempting to remedy this oversight ... I have run into a snag. Example: gknowledge:Main_Page leads to: http://gknowledge.wikicities.com/index.php/Main_Page. but with a period at the end after "Page". This page, with the period, does not exist. I can link using gknowledge ... but would rather not use the external link to do so. ?????? ... or am i missing something very simple? like 2+2=5? ;) Guidance? Thanks. -ts- 16:28, 9 Feb 2005 (GMT)


 * I've just fixed this in the interwiki map. It will take effect when the map next updates, which ought to happen every 24 hours. Angela 17:14, 9 Feb 2005 (GMT)


 * Thanks. will give it a test drive. -ts- 00:26, 10 Feb 2005 (GMT)


 * It appears to work now ... however ... I do have to use the underline in place
 * of the space or it still has a period at the end.
 * ie: gknowledge:Main_Page not gknowledge:Main Page
 * -ts- 20:03, 11 Feb 2005 (GMT)

This doesn't seem to be the case for me. Both gknowledge:Main_Page and gknowledge:Main Page work the same. Angela 10:53, 12 Feb 2005 (GMT)

Memory Alpha move - Loss of admin powers; style sheet
Angela, hi. I am assuming all database moves are complete now with regard to the MA move to Wikia. One slight problem, however. I no longer have admin powers with regard to the wiki, as was previously the case. Is this temporary, or permanent? In addition, my style sheet appears to be broken - text appears black, when it should be white. Since I don't have admin powers at the moment, I can't try and fix it in the general Monobook.css. -- Michael Warren | Talk 22:42, 10 Feb 2005 (GMT)


 * Admin powers should be back now. Let me know if I've missed anyone. Erik has just fixed the stylesheet. You may to reload the page to see this. Angela 02:52, 11 Feb 2005 (GMT)

From Chris Mahan
Hey,

You know, I might actually like this wikicities thingy :)

In any case, I asked Jimbo for adminiship on education. Can you arrange for that? I'm gonna promote the use of this tool for collaborative work at my university, and I want to be able to keep the vandals down.

Enjoy!

Christopher Mahan 03:10, 13 Feb 2005 (GMT)


 * Thanks... By the way, the wikimedia software I installed at work is starting to get traction... FYI. Christopher Mahan 03:23, 13 Feb 2005 (GMT)

Thanks
Thanks for the welcome back! Matt Crypto 15:55, 15 Feb 2005 (GMT)

External image use on Creatures
I just noticed this on your to-do, this should be fixed now (at least for all the ones I know about :-). -- 23:50, 15 Feb 2005 (GMT)


 * Thanks for fixing them all. :) Angela 00:04, 16 Feb 2005 (GMT)

Community Portal
re: I thought I'd already moved that to the community portal

Saw you copied it there ... was going to delete it from the main page but left it with a note so folks would be aware of where to post cross-project announcements in the future. I see you have now put a link in Wikicity News. thanks. 13:16, 16 Feb 2005 (GMT)

Wikilog
I keep seeing ads for it and I'm interested now. Before I went ahead and did it, I thought I'd check to see if you could implement some kind of Bliki mod to keep things clean. Yes, the whole site wouldn't be a Bliki, so I was planning on having a subpage of my page with subpages of that for the archives and individual posts w/comments. But, that's how I'd do it manually. I think it'd be interesting to describe your recentchanges and thoughts of how the wiki was going, I've seen your recentchanges blog and you mention things that happen as well. --Me at work 15:34, 16 Feb 2005 (GMT)


 * I don't think a blog should take place on the wiki. It's like forcing the software to do something it isn't meant for. MediaWiki is simply not suitable for creating a blog. You wouldn't have the possibility of RSS feeds, or trackback, so you'd lose much of the needed functionality. Having said that, the bloglines blog is also fairly poor, since it doesn't allow comments. Perhaps having something like Wordpress with a shared account between trusted Wikicities' users would be better? Angela 17:53, 16 Feb 2005 (GMT)


 * Your idea is interesting, but how would one be trusted? A founder, or " or, well... I had a better one a minute ago.  phpwiki can do wikiblogs though.  I read that mediawiki can't, yet, which I hope will be fixed in the future.  Meh, I still like the wikilog idea, as there's something to the ability of wiki link ing things while talking about them.  --Me at work 18:30, 16 Feb 2005 (GMT)

Thanks & Wiki Formatting Summary?
Thanks for the explaination of how to link to a category! (For others who may not know, precede Category with a :, like Category:Category-Name) I've been gonig to the Wikimedia Guide. It's useful, but not a good quick reference guide for wiki syntax. Do you know of one? Should I start one? --RJ 20:00, 18 Feb 2005 (GMT)


 * The Wikipedia:Tutorial is probably a good place to start. Angela 22:51, 18 Feb 2005 (GMT)