Forum:Lost of Monobook support

Fr.guildwars (over here) has lost support for the monobook skin been the defaut skin. Is this intentionnal ?

I can select the "defaut" parameter in admin options but that switch it to Sapphire... — TulipVorlax 01:53, 13 November 2007 (UTC)


 * Further thinking and testing has showed that it's not quite it. Annon will see Monobook when i set it to "Defaut". But, login don't see monobook unless they have set all wikia to be in monobook. I dont like this at all as i want to see the custom skin of every wikia wether it's one of the quartz or monobook. — TulipVorlax 02:05, 13 November 2007 (UTC)


 * I got the same problem on fr.design.wikia.com. My first wish was that the wiki had a Wikipedia apparence because in people mind it means that the wiki is a real encyclopedia and not a random site. I understand that the quartz skin have been designed to be wikia's mark. However the moonbook skin is a mark too that says users they are on a wiki. In one hand it help thoose who are used to wikis, in the other hand having a different skin may draw some people who are usually frightened by wikis (this need a good WYSIWYG editor too). This is very different within the context. For example For the GuildWars wiki people are used with Mediawiki skin because the main sites (GuildWiki you currently host and PvXWiki you will certainly host soon ;) ) are arlready wikis. On the french  gamebook wiki people are not necessarily used with wikipedia and, since it is a game-wiki, they do not want to play on an encyclopedia; so that using a different skin is perfect. I'm not against innovation (Yet i'm an engineer specialised in product innovation) but I've noticed that wikis are already innovating and pretty amazing for some people who only know wikipedia. To solve this problem I really sugest a wikia enchanced moonbook (I know the advertizing banner is a problem because it is large and should not be placed on the up left where traditionally stand the wiki logo. However you may consider put it on the down left and put toolbox under the banner so that adds will not be hidden) or at least to let admins choose between the original moonbook or the new colored quartz apparence. --Ttibot 12:00, 15 November 2007 (UTC)


 * I've read somewhere that monobook support as a defaut skin is (or will be) now unawaillable on every Wikia wikis. Users can still set in theirs preferences to use monobook. But, what i dont like about the way it's currently working is that if i (or anyone) prefer to view one wikia in monobook, all others wikia will be in monobook and the same things goes for Quartz except that wikis can set one quartz theme to be the defaut. So, now, i dont really have the choice. I've set my prefs on Quartz. I wont use monobook because it's not the skin that people see when they first arrive. I must use the skin that newcommers see so i know what they are talking about if they have trouble with it or so i can tweak the skin to look better.


 * But, as i said somewhere, wikia wikis are becomming a new and wonderfull wiki experience. When compagnies like Microsoft are making a new and improved version of a software or compagnies like Nintendo a new and improved gaming system, do you get the new thing as soon as you can or do you prefer staying with your old stuff ? For exemple, did you get a Wii or did you prefered your old GameCube ? Me, i have a Wii for less than a year now and i like it very much. It really is a new and wonderfull experience.
 * But still, i dont get all new things just because they are new nor because they are supposed to be better. I will surely never buy Vista and stay with XP.


 * But (yes again), we dont pay anything to use Wikia services. And it's a pretty damn good service. They do the dull part of managing wiki for us. The software is always up to date and bugs are sorted out on a decent schedule.
 * Yes, new people that come to Wikia will be startled by it's skin at first but in time, they will understand that Wikia is not Wikipedia and that they can contribute here as freely as on any other wiki despice it looking different.


 * This message is too long. I'll stop now. ;-) — TulipVorlax 09:56, 16 November 2007 (UTC)


 * It's great that wikia is developing new features, but there's no harm to wikia to let us decide which skin is better for "our" wiki. The wiki is hosted by wikia, which all of us are pleased about this, but we are creating the content that makes the community grow, and it's also important, so we know better than wikia which skin is the best for our wiki. We want to choose it. --Ciencia Al Poder (talk) -WikiDex 17:16, 16 November 2007 (UTC)