Forum:Message Wall - A Simple List Of Names

Since Staff simply don't understand the sheer number of us who do not want Message Wall to replace talkpages, I've set up this page to show them just how many of their users are against the change. This isn't a vote, and it's not really a petition. It's merely a list of users who don't (or do) want this feature to replace talkpages.

Simply sign your name in the appropriate section to show your opinion. Only leave comments in the comment section, as it just makes the list messy otherwise.

I don't like Message Wall and don't want it to replace user talkpages

 * 1) Though these never work and staff will just ignore this --
 * 2) Since when we're we Facebook? --Tama 63  15:38, September 27, 2011 (UTC)
 * 3) 1358  (Talk)  15:40, September 27, 2011 (UTC)
 * 4) MasterFred 15:50, September 27, 2011 (UTC)
 * 5) Futility: or The Wreck of the Titan. 15:55, September 27, 2011 (UTC)
 * 6) We need to end the madness now. We are the users! We have the power only when we join together! So who's with me?!? ~ Jason Yelloweagle ~
 * 7) The staff needs to listen, and so far they are failing to do so. This feature will send Wikia down a path of no return and it needs to end now. Lancer1289 16:03, September 27, 2011 (UTC)
 * 8) NaruHina 16:15, September 27, 2011 (UTC)
 * 9) Ricizubi16:17, September 27, 2011 (UTC) (maybe 1 or 2 things from it, but nothing more)
 * 10)  Master Jonathan ( Jedi Council Chambers ) 16:18, September 27, 2011 (UTC)
 * 11)  Nayayen &mdash; TALK  16:20, September 27, 2011 (UTC)
 * 12) Per all. What is this I don't even.  N7  &#91; T &#124; C &#93; 16:32, September 27, 2011 (UTC)
 * 13) Gulomi Jomesh 16:33, September 27, 2011 (UTC)
 * 14) User:Exiledjedi 16:35, September 27, 2011 (UTC)
 * 15) For the record, Wookieepedia's most one-sided Consensus Track to date took a week to get to 36-to-1. This one has reached 31-to-0 in a day. -- Darth Culator  (Talk) 16:37, September 27, 2011 (UTC)
 * 16) Per n7 16:38, September 27, 2011 (UTC)
 * 17) -- RoseGui [[File:Thanks rose.png]] ( talk here ) 16:43, September 27, 2011 (UTC)
 * 18)  I need a name  ( Complain here ) 16:44, September 27, 2011 (UTC)
 * 19) Raven&#39;s wing 16:44, September 27, 2011 (UTC)
 * 20) It honestly needs to be realised that adding something which the vast majority of the community are against is pretty much saying that the community's opinions are worthless. GG (talk) 16:44, September 27, 2011 (UTC)
 * 21) If it isn't broken, don't fix it. JPanzerj 16:46, September 27, 2011 (UTC)
 * 22) -- Zeist Antilles  flimsiplast 16:46, September 27, 2011 (UTC)
 * 23) -- Bleeh (talk) (blog) 16:47, September 27, 2011 (UTC)
 * 24) Per Panzer, it is easy to work with now. - Crazy Sam10 Talk Poll[[File:ShadowAttackSmallAni.gif]] 16:48, September 27, 2011 (UTC)
 * 17:01, September 27, 2011 (UTC)
 * 1) I am not pleased with having to be forced to use a social networking site-esque user talk model. It should stay just as it is. And I don't think we need to test this to see what it's like, a lot of us use facebook and blogs on Wikia, this is a mix of the two, not that either are bad, but the mix does not belong on user talk pages. --Callofduty4 17:05, September 27, 2011 (UTC)
 * 2) -- Bob  ๑  17:20, September 27, 2011 (UTC)
 * 3) Highestbounty123 17:26, September 27, 2011 (UTC)
 * 4) This defeats the purpose of a WIKI. This is not Facebook. It's a WIKI. What Staff don't see is that 99.7% hate this godawful feature and will refuse to use it. This means when it does get implemented, communication between users will cease ENTIRELY. Total chaos across the whole of Wikia. And when that happens, I'll be there to remind them "I told you so." Styracosaurus Rider (Speak to the Rider, your Lord and Master) {Look upon my servants} 17:28, September 27, 2011 (UTC)
 * 5) .Seshat. 17:28, September 27, 2011 (UTC)
 * 6) 1NF3RNO 17:29, September 27, 2011 (UTC)
 * 7) Cheesedude 17:32, September 27, 2011 (UTC)
 * 8) It doesn't look like a good idea. HolbenilordTalk₪ 17:34, September 27, 2011 (UTC)
 * 9) Only with the hope, and with the mere hope, I hope that this is an optional application, ¿whats happening, wikia has realizing secret relations with Facebook? Sylux  en Metroidover / Wikisimpsons / Wikidex / Ace Attorney / Digimon
 * 10) We're not Facebook. We're encyclopedias of information. But apparently that has long been forgotten by the staff. Ten Tailed Fox   (Talk with me)  17:36, September 27, 2011 (UTC)
 * 11) Green Tentacle (Talk) 17:58, September 27, 2011 (UTC)
 * 12) Looks like my new talk page shall be my userpage. 18:03, September 27, 2011 (UTC)
 * 13) Smuff[ The cake is a lie  ] 18:07, September 27, 2011 (UTC)
 * 14) Smithing (talk | contribs) 18:10, September 27, 2011 (UTC)
 * 15) Why doesn't Wikia understand what wikis are? They are online encyclopedias, not forums, not mirror sites of Facebook... 18:14, September 27, 2011 (UTC)
 * 1) Smuff[ The cake is a lie  ] 18:07, September 27, 2011 (UTC)
 * 2) Smithing (talk | contribs) 18:10, September 27, 2011 (UTC)
 * 3) Why doesn't Wikia understand what wikis are? They are online encyclopedias, not forums, not mirror sites of Facebook... 18:14, September 27, 2011 (UTC)

I'm reserving judgement until I see the actual feature

 * 1) Because I'm not an idiot --  Random Time  17:41, September 27, 2011 (UTC)
 * But, it's really clear how it will only operate in one way - like a blog post/article comments. --Callofduty4 18:04, September 27, 2011 (UTC)
 * RT, maybe you should watch your words a bit because I am certainly taking that as a post that says that all signers in the above sections are idiots. Just sayin'. 1358  (Talk)  18:09, September 27, 2011 (UTC)
 * Please keep further replies to the comments section. We want to be able to see the list!
 * 1) He has a point, we don't know what it looks like or how it'll be yet. –  Jä zz  i  18:15, September 27, 2011 (UTC)
 * 2) And now we all do what we've done before. Get over it. &mdash; Wattz  2000  18:17, September 27, 2011 (UTC)

I like Message Wall and am fine with it replacing user talkpages

 * 1) Troll King Imhungry4444 17:01, September 27, 2011 (UTC)

No opinion

 * 1) Is this forum actually designed to make an impact? Because it won't. 18:08, September 27, 2011 (UTC)
 * Shouldn't this be in the comments section? O.o Smuff[ The cake is a lie  ] 18:10, September 27, 2011 (UTC)

Comments
Please leave any comments below.
 * The "replace talkpages" phrase in this thread might mislead someone into thinking that this feature will affect namespaces other than User_talk, which isn't true. — Sovq 16:01, September 27, 2011 (UTC)
 * Fixed--


 * You can use http://bit.ly/nomessagewall as a shortcut to this page. 1358  (Talk)  16:48, September 27, 2011 (UTC)
 * Per Xd1358. --  N7  &#91; T &#124; C &#93; 17:01, September 27, 2011 (UTC)


 * Should we number the votes instead of bullet them? We better keep a track of their number(who will count them) Ricizubi 16:50, September 27, 2011 (UTC)
 * I've changed them all to be numbered. There is no possible way that not numbering them would make more sense.  Nayayen &mdash; TALK  16:56, September 27, 2011 (UTC


 * Shouldn't the first option simply be "I don't want it as default" since if it's optional, who cares? Also there are about 3 millions users, I don't know how many will sign here, but I doubt it will be a considerable part of them (well let's try it anyway).
 * It's Wikia. When has anything been optional? :)


 * Well I have to say that hiding longer conversations concept isn't bad, I would really like to see that happening, since talks are sometimes too long, shortening them is a good idea, it makes navigation easier. Also having something that tells us WHAT messages we have isn't bad either, but an old fashioned message box is good enough, if it tells me the heading/s that I got, that's ok. Also, IMPROVING the commenting thing, that is something, if the staff can make an improved version of it then that is gonna be great. To name the user/s to which you want to send the message, then in a box you add the text and just send the message, that if it gets a preview button like the editor will be perfect! I will make sending a message way easier. With the message box linked directly to the heading edited, then navigating to the talk will be easier and compressing discussions is gonna make navigating through the talk a lot easier. What else would we need for improvement?!(dreams of being someone important and having his ideas listened, nice dreams, on the blog they won't be at least...) Ricizubi 17:39, September 27, 2011 (UTC)