Board Thread:New Features/@comment-126761-20161201193306/@comment-3474542-20170114010318

These things are huge. Especially with the fonts and amount of padding used on the 1st sub-level! Although my fat fingers appreciate it on a mobile device, there's a lot of wasted space when viewing this on a desktop. It would be a very good idea to reduce the scaling, or at least add some way for us to modify it via CSS without violating the TOU.

I would like it if the global & local nav bars were integrated, saving a lot of space. It could also make it easier to collapse the navigation on a mobile device (1 click vs 2 clicks). (Gears, 3 dots, & "hamburger" menus FTW!)

I'm neutral on the placement of the word-mark. It's mostly a stylistic element. It makes sense on big screens, but it makes a lot less sense on smaller screens. I'll be slightly heretical here and say that in many cases, it can be omitted in favor of the much smaller "home" icon (I do understand that it is useful for branding, though).

The current test themes are fairly "meh". I'm looking forward to better integration with the Theme Manager and CSS, but there are no glaring problems. The icons next to the top level headers look fine (clear meaning, good scale relative to text). I would prefer the non-hover color of the icons to be closer to that of the text, but they aren't super transparent.

There are definitely a lot of issues with organization, flow, and naming conventions.

I like having the local search bar in the local menu. When I see the search bar in the global menu, I always think it's for a cross-wiki search. However, I'm not sure how to best integrate it into this navigation header.


 * "Create" needs to be changed to "Contribute" or something similar... this would allow for things like "expand this article", "update this page" and "proofread this article" to fit better.
 * Add "Add a Blog post" to the "Create" menu.
 * Change the name of "Read" to something more inclusive of consuming multimedia. Maybe something like "View" or "Explore"? Not all users are going to be using their eyes to interact with the wiki.
 * Move viewing "Videos" to "Explore"
 * Move viewing "Photos" to "Explore"
 * Add Special:Random under "Explore"
 * Put all discussion forms (blog/chat/forums/comments/etc) under "Discuss", not just the new discussion module.
 * A link to Leaderboards should be here for communities that have enabled Leaderboards.
 * Keep the Search bar, but change the current header "Search" to "Help" (or some similar concept).
 * Add links to Help:Contents... and policies & MOS, "report user", admin/mod details, and volunteer (VSTF & WLB, etc) type things there.
 * I see there is no "On this Wiki" section. I approve. One expects that all of the content of the header would be "on this wiki". I appreciate that the various links previously in that location are implemented as links in the various sections instead.

I'm not an admin on any of the test wikis, so I don't see an option to edit the navigation itself... Is there a visible link/button on/near the navigation header, or do you have to go somewhere esoteric (like Special:AdminDashboard) to edit it?

Overall, it's not too bad. I kinda like the division between consuming, creating, and discussing content. I do hope that the customizable slots aren't too limited...As an admin, I have a few wikis where I definitely use all 3 sub-levels & most of the slots (4/7/10) for wiki specific content. Forcing users entirely into the category namespace for that same content would be less than ideal.