Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-93604-20130124101640/@comment-93604-20130129071232

Many websites have one central hub linking to all the main forums. The forums may be scattered around. The point is the central hub.

BertH. It is good to know that an extensive summary is not needed when using Special:Contact to point out a thread. Though I don't know why someone would bother to contact staff after seeing the poor interaction in this thread.

I don't understand at all what the big deal is about putting a link in the most logical location so that people have immediate access to all the central forums. It does not hurt anything to add it. I already pointed out the problems of not having it. You ignored them, or acted like they were not legitimate reasons. Fortunately, I have much better interactions with some of the staff via Special:Contact. Maybe I will ask there for some other staff to consider this thread. Or not.

You still don't get what I am saying. I have repeated my point several times. Let's try yet again. You wrote: "That section is clearly visible on the wiki navigation and, given the nature of that subset of users, they probably won't have too much trouble finding it." This is at least the third time I have made this point:

People will not look for something they do not know exists. They can arrive at Special:Forum from links on other wikis. They might only see "Forum" in the "On the wiki" tab of the navigation links, and not look for more forums. Why would they think to look for more forums? They already found the forums.

Also, I remember another reason that I like seeing a link to the Founder & Admin Forum. I, and many others, prefer getting help from admins. Why, you might ask? They are frequently more helpful than staff. I had almost forgotten why I rarely ask for staff help. I had forgotten the poor interactions I got via Special:Contact back when I used it more often long ago. I complained about this long ago. Nowadays I rarely use Special:Contact, but when I do, I usually get high-level staff, and cooperative help from them. But I guess it is still in my DNA to avoid staff, and to ask for their help only as a last resort. There are many people like me, going back all the way to the days of the Monaco skin, and the wonder of wider pages. ;) So that is another reason that people may prefer getting help from admins via a link to Admin Central:Forum.