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Double toolbar patch
Hi!. As you know, on MW1.12 wikias, on Monobook there's a double edit toolbar. I don't know when it will get fixed (as it isn't an emergency) but if you think is good, there's a code that can be put in MediaWiki:Global.js to patch it until it gets fixed. It also prevents the MiniUpload button to appear, since it's broken. If no, there's no problem, I'll put it in the forum so individual wikis could patch it if they want, just wanted to have a more global solution and the patch could be removed also globally when gets fixed. --Ciencia Al Poder (talk) -WikiDex 20:14, 7 January 2008 (UTC)


 * This has now been fixed. Angela (talk)


 * I'm afraid no. Look for example. The function that adds the toolbar (mwSetupToolbar) is called twice when the page loads, using hookEvent("load", mwSetupToolbar);, the first here and the second here, so the buttons are added twice. In fact, seems that all the code in wikibits.js is repeated in allinone.js, so this is just one visible the problems -there are others, yes. I'd done a hard reload of the page, in firefox and internet explorer.


 * Oh, and this happens only in monobook, but my patch works well for any skin, because in case that there's no toolbar (exactly less than 5 images in the toolbar, because somebody (like me) could had added some buttons "by hand", I put 5 as example) 2 seconds after the load finishes, it calls the mwSetupToolbar to set it up. So the patch should be put inside an if (skin!=monobook) or something. Note that I put the patch in Common.js, so you can test that the toolbar still appears in other skins. --Ciencia Al Poder (talk) -WikiDex 18:44, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

Search
Also, after some chat with the community on #searchwikia and the approval from Jimbo, it would be best that ConfirmEdit for new external links be added to search.wikia to help filter spambots from real people creating mini articles. If you would find some time to turn that on.

Thanks a lot! :) -- 07:46, 8 January 2008 (UTC)


 * Unregistered users, not everyone. -- 13:34, 9 January 2008 (UTC)


 * I've asked the tech team to implement this. Angela (talk)

Contact in Germany
Hi Angela:

I am looking for a contact of Wikia in Germany. Thanks for your help.

Best. Matthias

Matthias Grenda Project biografieBLOG.com e-mail: matthias@biografieblog.com Homepage: www.biografieblog.com


 * We don't have anyone based in Germany yet, but will do from February. You should be getting a reply to your email about this soon. Angela (talk) 16:45, 8 January 2008 (UTC)


 * sounds for some new & cool opportunities, Angela. Would be interesting to know what possibilities exist to be involved. Greetings from North Germany/Hamburg (Rec.: My English lang profile see @ WP (DE) or WikiNew please). Best regards - --Sense-Maker-Net 01:25, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

RE: OggHandler
I'm afraid that the example use of OggHandler here doesn't seem to work. - Greenpickle(talk)

It still doesn't work. I know my computer has the appropriate plugins, as it works for me at Wikipedia. The error given is  Not allowed http://images.wikia.com/genealogy/images/b/b1/%27s_Kitchen1.2.ogg , so there must be some installation error. - Greenpickle(talk)


 * If I may add here, IE 7, as well as Firefox, with Windows Vista and the Quicktime player that is installable from the link, works superbly. However, the advised Java player still gives the same message as Greenpickle mentioned.--Prezintenden(talk) 14:43, 10 January 2008 (UTC)


 * If it is only the java player causing problems, would making one of the other players the default help? Angela (talk) 12:29, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

Fixed. Pls come back and check if it works for you. -- Nef (talk) 13:39, 13 January 2008 (UTC)


 * Yes, no errors whatsoever. I am assuming that the last step necessary would be the installation? Thank you for the assistance.--Prezintenden(talk)16:28, 14 January 2008 (UTC)


 * Yep, working. - Greenpickle(talk)

Administrator on Search Wikia
I would serve as an administrator on Search Wikia, if you will have me. Fred Bauder 21:17, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

IRC cloak request
Hi Angela! I am Tomsen on freenode and I would like the cloak wikia/tomsen. Greetings Tomsen (talk) 13:37, 13 January 2008 (UTC)


 * I've asked seanw for this, but he's offline right now. Let me know in a couple of days if you still don't have a cloak. Angela (talk) 04:22, 14 January 2008 (UTC)


 * I have the cloak. Thanks, Angela. Greetings Tomsen (talk) 11:20, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

Re: Christian Music forums not working
Support for the favicon will be added soon. The music forum is working for me. Can you see this post? I've asked the tech team to make the forum name changes since the interface to edit these directly on the wiki seems to have stopped working. Angela (talk) 12:24, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
 * No. Just a similar message.  I see the forum in the forum list again, but it doesn't work as before.  As for favicons, many pages at ChristianMusic use the default W icon.

Would you prefer to use the normal wiki-based forums (like these)? We don't really have any staff who understand how to use phpbb well enough to resolve these problems. I can't find any reason why |this post would not be visible to you. Angela (talk) 04:18, 14 January 2008 (UTC)
 * No. I specifically waited rather than implementing them because of problems with that system.  Those included things like confusing thread layouts (for the typical user predicted for Christian Music, that wouldn't take much). Will (Talk - contribs) 20:09, 14 January 2008 (UTC)


 * TOR is looking into the remaining problems here. Angela (talk)

Sysop rights
Hello Angela. I'm the unic user of the Italian Harry Potter Wikia, a project founded on october 2007 but that weren't never really started (the original admins have no edits). I would ask you to give me the sysop rights on the wiki, if you can, because I want starting the project but I can't edit the main page or the grafic (and I can't publicize a wiki without main page ;-)) Could you do it? Thanks, —K (talk) P.S.: sorry for my bad English.

Music Wiki Forums
Hi happy new year,

Thanks for making me an admin over at w:c:Music things seem to be going well

Just a few questions:
 * Are you able to add some forums to Music for us as there don't seem to be any? I left a message for JohnQ about this here, but i guess he is busy
 * What is the difference in purpose between tunes wiki and music wiki, and could they be merged?
 * Could a music hub be created here on central? as none of the music realted wikias appear to be doing that well

I hope this is not asking too much

--Anarchyuk  (talk) 18:55, 14 January 2008 (UTC)


 * Ahh, according to the breadcrumbs below the search box on music, music is under miscellaneous, which is a bit weird. if you could move it to entertainment and then i'd be happy to discuss the possibility of a music hub with danny. But i feel entertainment is more appropriate than miscellaneous.

Anarchyuk  (talk) 17:18, 16 January 2008 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the suggestion. I've put it into entertainment now. It's cached, so it might not show up for a day or two. Angela (talk) 10:56, 19 January 2008 (UTC)

Linux Sysops
What's the policy on selecting wiki Sysops? Dr.Jones 20:39, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

threat
Hi Angela,

A registred user threatened me on desencyclopédie (see and ). I'm almost certain that he is a vandal that I banned yesterday for removing the content of a few pages. Is there a way in such a case to get his IP adress ? PiRK 14:40, 16 January 2008 (UTC)

Have we improved?
Back on 20 November 2006, you wrote on the Main Page Talk for 24.wikia.com that we suffered from "one of the lowest percentages of page views from logged in users." We have recently posted a brand new banner and restructured the Main Page. In looking at the site statistics for Wiki 24, has there been any kind of improvement from the old number, 98.2%, which indicated a high percentage of views from non-registered users? Blue Rook 05:51, 17 January 2008 (UTC)


 * I'm not sure if we can still get stats on this, but I'll check with Michael. Angela (talk) 10:56, 19 January 2008 (UTC)

types of blocks
Could you please let the admins at Teletraan-I know about the different types of blocks? When registered users are blocked, the admins keep using the "anonymous users only, account creation disabled" setting. I'd do it myself, but I'm not an admin anywhere, so I don't know all the various options involved. Thanks. --FortMax 19:19, 18 January 2008 (UTC)


 * I will get the help:blocking page updated to cover those options and then let them know about the page. Angela (talk) 10:56, 19 January 2008 (UTC)

IRC Cloak
I would be interested in getting an IRC Cloak from Wikia. I am GlacierWolf on freenode.  Gl ac ier Wo lf   22:09, 18 January 2008 (UTC)


 * I'll ask freenode staff for that now. Angela (talk) 10:56, 19 January 2008 (UTC)

I want to be an Admin
Hello,

What would it take for me to become one? I want to become one for A Wiki of Unfortunate Events only.

Thanks, --Asoue1286 04:14, 20 January 2008 (UTC)

Pt-br
The "Portuguece-Brazilian Resident Evil Wikia" (long name) seems to have problems... Well... well the site can't use the special page link (the thing) to other pages on its sisters'. even more so the fact that the pt-br hasn't been created. Can you help?Forerunner 15:05, 20 January 2008 (UTC)

Adoption
Myself and CommanderTony would like to adopt the military wikia at http://military.wikia.com. -- 18:36, 20 January 2008 (UTC)

Fanon vs. Fan Fiction
At Halo Fanon and Fanon Wiki, I've suggested that their names be changed to "Halo Fan Fiction" and "Fan Fiction Wiki," respectively. On Halo Fanon, more people are in support of the name change than are against, and ('cause discussion counts more than votes anyway), only one person has any reason not to change the name, and their reason promotes the incorrect definition of "fanon" anyway. I was wondering if you could take a look, and maybe even change the name if you think enough people are in support for all the right reasons, and all that rot. Fanon Wiki doesn't really have any community, though, other than JMan2.0, so the only vote is mine, in support. Yeah. Thanks! =D  Guesty - Persony - Thingy  23:46, 20 January 2008 (UTC)
 * K... some people at Halo Fanon were wondering when the debate would close, which is the only reason I asked this soon... I'll go start the same forum on any other "Fanon" wikis, and get back to you. =D  Guesty - Persony - Thingy  22:32, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Hmm... the majority of people seem to think different things based on where you go. At Halo Fanon, 4:3 people agree:disagree with the name change. So far as SWFanon, 0:2 people agree... but at Halo Fanon, most people actually have reasons not to change it, while, at SWFanon, they seem to have the opinion of "it's always been this so it shouldn't change." And, like you say, all should be changed at once... how about a vote on Central or something? Because this is sort of a big issue, and people's opinions shouldn't be distorted by what everyone on their wiki thinks. Bye!  Guesty - Persony - Thingy  04:36, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

Brandon Rhea here. I'm an Administrator over at Star Wars Fanon. No offense to GPT intended or anything, but if this name change thing is so important then perhaps someone from Wikia staff should be sent to suggest this name change rather than someone who has never contributed to our community outside of talk pages. Also, this is only a suggestion that he posted. He never said we needed to do this, nor has a Wikia staff member, so I don't see why this is being pushed on us to begin with. --Brandon Rhea (talk)
 * I would appreciate an answer to this as soon as possible. --Brandon Rhea (talk)

I never paniced, as this is hardly something to panic over. I just wanted to know why, if this is so important, a Wikia staff member didn't come to us instead. --Brandon Rhea (talk)
 * If you could, could you please go and post here and kindly ask that anonymous users who are not part of our community don't register accounts just to tell us that people will mock us for our content? It's disrespectful and is reflecting poorly on Wikia. Thank you in advance. --Brandon Rhea (talk)

I may have misunderstood you, but is the User:The truth about fanon a sockpuppet of a registered member of Star Wars Fanon? If so, who is it? Sockpuppeting is against our policies, and we'd like to deal with this if this person is a sockpuppet of another member. Please let me know as soon as you can. Thanks! :D --Brandon Rhea (talk)

editor behavior
Hi. I go to a Wikia to experiment edit and practise my English. It is call Final Fantasy Wiki. I make correction and small article so that when I come back I can make it big later, but the man in charge delete it. Then come a lot of editor they harass me and insult my English. one of them this guy: "Maverick King - Hannibal Lecter eats all including your precious Auron and Sephiroth: TALK - When the lambs stopped screaming Why you no like help? We only help you, you no need to be donkey about help. Lorr supposed be lol right? You talk about all action bu you no have userpage yet. lorr. go back dry cleaning" this what he say to me. So I no good English, but I add article for the wiki. Then I got ban. The editor in that Wiki not very good to newcomer. This where they talk to me User talk:60.49.50.231. I now create account and try learn how to edit better, but the people in that wiki they need to learn how to behave to newcomer. Thank you and keep good working. Samseng 09:26, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

AutoCAD wiki
Hi, Angela. I hope you are having a nice day, and that Wikia is doing well. I am a very new immigrant here from Wikipedia, where you welcomed me graciously in 2003 at the Book of Mormon page, and I have since become an admin and all. It has been a wonderfully transforming experience for me. You did a great thing being nice to me then.

Anyway, I am looking carefully into starting a meaningful wiki for the DWG/AutoCAD/Intellicad/Bricscad/CAD(maybe) community, and I see that you made the first edit to AutoCAD wiki in Feb 2007 here. Pretty much nothing has happened since then, and I am wondering if you could point me in the direction of the original requester for that wiki. Thanks a million! Tom Haws 17:40, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

Here's a little more info on where I may be headed. I am coordinating this with others so that we do this right. So movement may be a little slow. I may want to adopt the AutoCAD wiki, since no action has happened since February. I would propose leaving the current owner's rights intact, and then giving me bureaucrat and sysop rights there. But not yet. I also may be interested in "renaming" or "moving" the AutoCAD wiki to DWGWiki (more Corporation/Software agnostic, if you know what I mean; there do exist AutoCAD clones) or CADWiki (huge scope and lots of softwares), depending on my talks. Would that be possible? It only has like two pages currently, one of which I added last week, and two templates I added. I believe there is demand in the huge online DWG community for this, so I want to do it right and keep my eyes and ears open. Any help you can give me, Angela, will be golden. Tom Haws 20:02, 21 January 2008 (UTC)


 * I've left you a reply on AutoCAD wiki. Angela (talk) 10:55, 22 January 2008 (UTC)


 * Thank you so much, Angela. I see you have even made yourself a user page there!  I am so new to Wikia I am not sure what all the conventions, etc. are here, so I'm replying to you here.  I am in active talks this week with AutoCAD community folks, and I will be making some tests.  Hopefully I can settle on a URL and name within a week or two.  Can you please give me a pointer to an explanation of Wiki naming and urls at Wikia?  Thanks Tom Haws 14:41, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

Warcraft wiki
Hello Angela I am Dark Overlord and I want to start a warcraft wiki for info about the Strategy games and sent a request, but I know I alone can't make it all, so in any way could you help me make my wiki dream come true? Ultimate Doom 04:11, 22 January 2008 (UTC)


 * I'm going to seek some other opinions on this to check it doesn't conflict with existing wikis we have. Angela (talk) 10:55, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

Next step after bureaucrat
I recall one of the requirements of becoming a steward on wikia as being at least 18. Well, that was possibly a year ago, and I've recently turned 18, so now I'm wondering what other requirements I must meet, and what else I should get around to doing, before I can become a steward. I've been active on Fiction Wikia for a long time now with over 10,000 edits large and small, and have been bureaucrat of multiple wikias for a while. What other qualifications do I need? --Yunzhong Hou 20:39, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

Improving Traffic and others.
Angela,

I just sure hope that haven't been bugging you about the tiniest things (sorry if I am), but I need a bit more advice please.

1.) What are some ways to improve traffic to a wikia? 2.) Are there widgets for these wikis? 3.) How can I put links on the toolboox navigation like you can for the main navigation?

Thank you very much,

Asoue1286

Interwiki li
Hello Angela! Could you please interwiki landj.wikia.com (li) with stad.wikia.com (nl) nation.wikia.com (en) citta.wikia.com (it) and rowikicity.wikia.com (ro)? --Oos Wes Ilava (Bès) 06:05, 23 January 2008 (UTC)

Wikia Spotlight image
Hello,

Here is the Wikia Spolight image for A Wiki of Unfortunate Events. Please do what you need to do with it. It is a bit sloppy looking, but that is the way it uploaded.

Thanks,



--Asoue1286 21:34, 23 January 2008 (UTC)



Administrative Powers...
I herd you can give me administrative powers over at Yu-Gi-Oh! Card Maker Wikia. Since the original administrator is absent, and I am rather active over there, I thought I could be an administrator of the site.

- steriaca

Rappelz
Hello, I have recently begun to update the Rappelz wikia. I plan on activly improving this wiki and advertising it to everyone in the game. However there are several things I need to fix that require an administrator, and the only one seems to have stopped working on the page... If you could grant me administrative abilities I could clean up the page and hopefully we will get more editors for the page soon. Thank you for your consideration on this request. AuranX 02:00, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

Adoption
Hi i would like to adopt the west wing wikia at http://westwing.wikia.com. -- Anthil&#39;za 05:25, 25 January 2008 (UTC)

Welcome Not Too Welcomed
I recently started using the Who's Online feature and found that there were two brand-new users who had not posted on Novelas had already registered an account and were supposedly surfing the wikia. So I preemptively sent them each a welcome message, assuming that since they were listed in the who's online section they evidently were browsing the site. These users are Graestan and Jedimca0. They both responded very negatively, threatening to report me to wikia for sending the welcome message before either of them had posted (even though they had registered an account and were on the site), saying that it was harassment. They seem very much to be the same people, based on their replies.

So, is there a breakdown in the tech feature, or are these people wikia staff who are passively on these sites very often, or are they just touchy people? Because I don't see how they could just jump to the conclusion that I'm at fault here.

--Yunzhong Hou 21:46, 25 January 2008 (UTC)

GraestanJedimca0


 * This is very strange, I know Graestan, and he does not seem like the type of person who would respond negatively to a Welcome message. I cannot speak for Jedimca0, as I do not know him. Neither are members of Wikia Staff. This is no different from when we had a new user log on our wiki, when the account was registered, someone would usually place a welcome template on their talk page Which is essentially the same thing, but as Wikias user database is shared, I am for certain they did not just create an account. Graestan has been around for quite a while. -- 22:02, 25 January 2008 (UTC)


 * Odd. They're both admins on the Star Wars wiki, and certainly not the same person. It's possible that feature is showing false results and they hadn't actually been reading the fiction wiki. I will report it as a bug. Angela (talk) 01:13, 26 January 2008 (UTC)


 * I'm sorry if that's the way it went down, but I find it rather odd that Jedimca0 and I, who are friends and only connected through Wookieepedia, seemed to be the only two who had received such a message in that time period. I only responded in the light I did due to the way in which Yunzhong Hou replied when Jedimca0 sent him a query regarding why he had received the message. At any rate, I'm sorry there was a misunderstanding, but again, my actions had more to do with the very unusual connection. Graestan ( Talk ) 23:18, 26 January 2008 (UTC)

I... joked that I was a psychic...? --Yunzhong Hou 14:47, 27 January 2008 (UTC)

Sapphire
I have a few questions:

1) How do we change the top bar of the Sapphire skin (the one starting off home / forum / random page)?

2) I tried the wikia page in widget widget and found that it kept vanishing after I left the page. Is that normal?

3) The top content widget takes a while to switch from 'most visited' to 'highest ratings', for example (and other switches).

4) How can I make the edit-change-size show up in green/red depending on the change, for Sapphire? It's already working for Monobook on Fiction wikia, but has no effect on Sapphire.

5) The dynamic navigation bars (expandable boxes) work for Monobook but not for Sapphire. Could someone fix this for us? Thank you.

Yunzhong Hou 15:34, 26 January 2008 (UTC)

Spanking Art Wiki
Can someone tell me why the Spanking Art Wiki was deleted and what action should be taken by its editors to undelete it? Also, there is no message posted on the Spanking Art Wiki page and I get an error message every time I try to submit an edit. Is there a way to fix this so that wiki users can leave their comments on the deletion decision? I have contacted to community help desk about this issue and received no response. Feel free to respond here or on my talk page. Thanks.

Anonyq2005 18:25, 26 January 2008 (UTC)anonyq2005


 * Gil has posted about this on the forum, which is also the best place for comments on this. Angela (talk) 12:42, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

IRC Cloaks
To get a Wikia IRC cloak, do you need 50 edits to the Central Wiki or individual wikis?

Cal 05:39, 27 January 2008 (UTC)


 * 50 edits in general. -- 05:41, 27 January 2008 (UTC)


 * 50 anywhere is fine, and it's not a fixed number - you just need to be a real Wikian, not someone wandering in and wanting a cloak for other reasons. Angela (talk) 12:47, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

Your proteges make a dirty in our project
I block them all, if you do not object strongly.
 * Uh, Wikia staff has no control over what people visit and edit your site. If they are vandals, please do block them, but don't complain to staff that they're coming because the staff can't really do anything about that --Skizzerz talk 01:27, 28 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Has understood, what has told? Before to share maxims, have enter in the affair. А.Б.Верёвкин 21:54, 28 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Hi А.Б.Верёвкин. I don't really understand. Are their edits vandalism? If so, I certainly have no objection to blocking them. If you're in doubt, please check with other admins, or on the Russian Wikia mailing list. Angela (talk) 12:49, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

Sapphire
The navigation bars not showing up in Sapphire resulted in us (Novelas users) de-navving all the pages that had them. They included former versions of the main page (now deleted), a former version of the help page, a former version of Template:Lorica, and various cover pages for stories written by User:Fythring such as The Sorcerers of Infinity. A version of a not-working navbar shouldn't be too hard to find in the recent histories for Template:Lorica, among others.

The four-component widget took anywhere between 2-30 seconds to change to another component. I'm using Windows Explorer 7; perhaps that is the problem?

With the wikia page in widget, the moment I navigated to another page it vanished. Maybe I'm using it incorrectly by just dragging it to the sidebar?

--Yunzhong Hou 13:17, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

Possible restoration bug
A few weeks ago on RuneScape Fan Fiction, an image of mine was deleted for not being used in an article. Yesterday, I finally was going to make the article, so I restored the image and the two edits to the page. When I clicked on the link to the page from the recent changes, there was no image. I thought, "might as well try again", and deleted it again so I could re-restore it. When I went to the restore page, there was no revision of the image, and it seemed as if the image is gone forever.

Earlier today, on the RuneScape Wiki, there was an image that was deleted for being seen as unused. It was used with a effect, though, so I went to restore the one edit to the page and the one revision of the image, and pressed on the restore button. When I went to the recent changes so I could click on the link, there was no message in the recent changes saying that it was restored. I went back to the restore page for the image, and there was no revisions listed.

I've also been getting a lot of "database locked" messages. A lot more than I used to get. --Chiafriend12 04:56, 30 January 2008 (UTC)


 * There is a certain window in which an image can be restored, I can delete a random image and restore it a minute later and it will still be there. But if I wait too long and get one that's been deleted for a while, it does what you suggested and leaves only revisions, and not files. And as for the db lock messages, those are being tweaked and worked on now. It should be back to normal soon. -- 05:24, 30 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Oh. I thought that the files would stay there like the revisions. As you requested, Angela, the titles of the images I've had trouble with are "Image:Dfull.PNG" from the RuneScape Wiki, and "Image:Gola flag.png" on RuneScape Fan Fiction. --Chiafriend12 06:40, 30 January 2008 (UTC)
 * I first noticed it on the 29th. --Chiafriend12 02:09, 31 January 2008 (UTC)

Egamia move to wikia
Since egamia's move to wikia I would like to one of our old terms that we had which were not discussed before. I would like to keep our sexually explicit images in the Hgame sections of the website since images are use to represent the games and their boxarts. Although wikias policy does not allow this can it be an exception for egamia? since the images were there before our move to wikia and that they make up a majority of the traffic moving to egamia. We have javascript warining to keep out offended users.

The ads bar would be better on the left side below wikia tool box. (but I really do not mind this much just annoying) but the wikia features I don't really care about much.

I am just bringing this up because there was minimal discussion prior to the move and it occured to me on IRC when Uncyclopedia had terms discussed during their move.

--Cs california 10:32, 30 January 2008 (UTC)

Admin on Wikistad
On Wikistad we have had a political crisis in December 2007. After that some new people came in charge of the site and some people left. I already made the new 'president' bureaucrat, but can you please make User:MenM back into a normal sysop and undo his bureaucrat-powers? Thanks a lot, 15:45, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

Ownership
The Runescape Fan Fiction Wikia has a Template:Property that basically condones users who want to 'own' an article. Is this not against the rules? If it is not, then I might bring such a template to Novelas. --Yunzhong Hou18:22, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

I got your reply. In that case I would expect that you'd want them to stop using that template on the Runescape Fan Fiction Wikia as well. I'll go leave them a message and blank out their Template:Property, though I suspect they'll revert it so you'll have to intervene and resolve the matter there.

Another solution would be to word it differently - after all, content submitted by users still belongs to them (which is why multiple licensing is allowed). It could state something like "the main content on this article was submitted by user X"; in such a case it would be a matter of attribution. Both that site and Novelas have something in common - the fact that almost all articles each have at least 90% of the content being provided by an individual. Especially with literature, where works are traditionally authored by individuals, saying that a work is not the property of the author seems to be depriving them of their right as an author to be acknowledged as the one who wrote it, as well as their intellectual property rights.

Which leads me to another solution (which may not be legally viable): turning Fiction Wikia and the fan fiction wikias' license to that of Creative Commons. If this change can't be made to extant articles, they should be applied to all newly created (Main)-namespace pages. GFDL is suited to encyclopedic wikias, not to imaginative wikias. I suggest you look into this possibility ASAP, because there are bound to be more imaginative wikias that are going to be churned out with the less-suited GFDL the longer you wait.

--Yunzhong Hou 15:00, 2 February 2008 (UTC)

Wow, you were fast. I decided to append a note to it rather than delete it. --Yunzhong Hou 15:08, 2 February 2008 (UTC)

In regards to Template:Property
Hi Angela, I saw the note on the template and on the templates talk it recommended I come here. Anyway, I've created a new template that states the page was created by rather than the property of. I hope this template is more appropriate and does not go against the rules as the other one did.

Thanks, Mr. Garrison 15:20, 2 February 2008 (UTC)


 * It's okay, that new one. Like I stated above, it doesn't really mesh with the idea that the RSFanfic wikia is at its heart a creativity wikia. --Yunzhong Hou17:37, 2 February 2008 (UTC)

Who's Online
The Who's Online special page just vanished off Novelas. What's going on?

Oh, and how are you planning to resolve the issue we were talking about earlier (the "Property" section)? If you didn't read it in full, I had responded, above. --Yunzhong Hou

Property, Continued
Anyways, I got flamed at the Runescape Fan Fiction wikia at User:ToaBionicle/Recent Changes. They are making this issue a very painful discussion, and have even raised a petition against the removal of property pages (and attendant implication of ownership). ToaBionicle has also brought in character attacks and the status quo argument into this discussion, being rude to User:abcxyzzzz as well. --Yunzhong Hou