Board Thread:Support Requests - Getting Technical/@comment-45429184-20200414211917/@comment-168424-20200524223021

@Tupka217, I respect your opinion and you have been around a long time, but you are giving a misleading impression when you basically say UCP is what users have been asking for by conflating a MediaWiki engine upgrade with all the other things users did not ask for and are getting instead or did ask for and are being ignored.

The UCP is a sort of middle ground solution favoring primarily FANDOM's priorities with a very, very few fulfillments of user requests.

The best thing bout UCP is that it isn't as bad as the Oasis Wars and the Gamepedia folks have spent years getting used to not having the many features of legacy FANDOM wikis that most users are used to and many of which are being lost with the early phase of UCP.

So, it is perfectly fine for people to like the legacy platform, because it will take awhile before the advantages of the new MediaWiki engine are seen. Also, the reason the UCP is so bad is because of dev decisions FANDOM stayed with for way too long and general bad SW dev practices.

I stopped saying this for awhile, but I want to throw it out there so people don't just think I'm saying stuff about SW dev as some random person on the internet who could be basketweaver (no offense to basket weaving... it is an awesome skill): I've lived in the Silicon Valley for over 30 years (yes I'm old) and have worked at software companies all throughout that time including Apple, Microsoft, and various startups. Up to now FANDOM (previously Wikia/Wikicities) has demonstrated SW dev practices well below industry standards and I've seen some of the worst (and best). They're learning from their mistakes, but it has been a very slow process.

The UCP is a good step and hopefully will be a great base for maybe decades to come, but it isn't very good right now and we users are probably less than half the reason they're doing it. Even Google, a company that is notorious for throwing out Beta SW at their users would never release something as buggy as the UCP to the public. FANDOM does this because as long as the advertisers who pay their bills don't think it is bad... that's all that matters.

/rant