Board Thread:New Features/@comment-20644-20170522203248/@comment-168424-20170601173948

Kevin &quot;Hawk&quot; Fisher wrote:

Please spend more time improving the Search engine, which is dreadful and appears to have random sort order results.

Please spend more time finding a way to incorporate Category pages in the navigation menu much better. Usually, at least most wikis I have visited, wikis have pretty good structure set up with category pages, it is much easier to navigate and find what pages and articles you are wanting, once you are able to find good category page to start with. I am sure some wikis do not have good Category hierarchy set up, but for the many that do this would be beneficial.

Please spend more time on Help pages, as once you do actually find page you are looking for and wanting to help contribute and add your improvements, is not bad. It is decent start for help pages. However, trying to find specifically what portions you are looking for is not the most intuitive. Worse is the lack of helpful info for those intermediate users. Basic beginner help ... great. Advanced ... pretty much over the top for intermediate. It really needs better help info for those in between. Including a whole list of all options plus better descriptions for each.

These are all excellent suggestions. However, you should also send them to Special:Contact/feedback and if you want to be really nice, tell us what Fandom staff said in response on a separate thread.

I especially agree with the need to improve Help pages. I've needed to fix so many and so many more are in bad shape or missing.

As for "tough sh!t, deal with it", that is more resignation than rage. I've been interacting with Fandom (previously Wikia) staff for 10 years and the previous quote is what I would characterize as a fairly accurate summary of how staff has approached introducing several changes over these many years. I also know some staff very well or better than most. They often get caught up in justifying something because it's their job. The puppet masters above are usually too scared to directly interact with users. You will get to see and talk to some of them if you get to Community Connect, but they still keep their distance.