Board Thread:New Features/@comment-24739709-20150518230347/@comment-24930713-20150607195703

Dessamator wrote:

This seems like a lot of unnessacary work, just to customize this new template. If I'm understanding correctly, this bit of code is just for the headings. So if I wanted to add some more customization to various features of the template, I would need to type up more html(?) for each specific feature. Making templates was hard enough to learn, now you want to throw in more coding. Personally, I would prefer staying as far away from CSS as I can, while still having the ability to style templates anyway I want. That is simply a result of added customization the person wanted. But wanting to stay away from CSS while still styling templates, is like wanting to take a shower without getting wet. You can't have one without the other. Of course there are tools to make it as painless as possible but in the end you're doing the same thing.

Anyway, I will concede to one point. Currently, the only way to style these templates is by changing the Special:CSS page. What this means is that ultimately only admins can affect the infobox styles directly, regular users can change their user css but never the infoboxes. This takes away control from the masses and gives it to the very few.

This in my opinion is a major oversight. If we consider a wiki where the admins/bureaucrats are absent, it would mean that they are stuck using a default infobox styles or simply use the old style templates. At the very least there should be a way to have some preset styles that allow css changes by non-admins.

Maybe there could be customized infobox CSS style transclusion from Dev.wikia.com or another central repository.

The point was, as someone with probably the bare minimum in coding html/CSS, this is overwhelming. That person asked about customization, and was given an example based on headers; headers are just one piece of a template. Which would mean in order to change anything else I would need to add another set of code similar to that based on what I wanted, and pray that I didn't mess anything up so that it shows correctly. I've only used CSS on a wiki once or twice, and from what I remember, the response time is not great. So, on top of not allowing regular users the ability to style a template from the original wiki they're on. Adding the styling to the CSS has a bit of a delay.

Hopefully these question can be answered; but I don't understand why the current template can't be tweaked, not completely overhauled, to display a better table than it already does on mobile. From what I can tell, it doesn't register separate tabs correctly, images in templates-or the wiki in general- appear larger than they're meant to be- regardless of what size is set for it, it doesn't register the styling for- not just the template- but the wiki in general.


 * But couldn't it just create another table for each tab? There seemed to be some level of collapsible feature on the wiki I'm most active on, despite the fact that those infoboxes don't have any collapsible elements to them.


 * Are images and styling going to be fixed afterwards? For images, is that a coding problem on the individual wiki's side?


 * What's the point of having styling appear for mobile users with the new infobox/template, if the rest of the page still looks like a default wiki?