Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-13301-20170502181922/@comment-35.8.231.17-20170503214007

Technobliterator wrote:

35.20.173.109 wrote:

rediculous conspiracy theory, what a joke. that is based off trends from before and adds up, i have no idea what the end goal is but from the looks of it doesn't involve a whole lot with wikis; that i can tell you. I'm also sure that PI is acceptable when its BREAKING templates on pages as of current. not to mention as Fandyllic said, you won't be able to reconstruct like for like replacements. either way, we have moved from wikitext which was standard mediawiki to now XML tags (call it what you want). Yes, it is a ridiculous conspiracy theory. You have no evidence to back up your "staff wants to take over all aspects of wikis and remove mediawiki!!!!!!!!!" claim, and no, "trends" and "adds up" is not evidence. Portable Infoboxes are not some nefarious plot to take control away from local communities. They are a tool that provides standard syntax for every infobox across the network, allowing any new community to easily set up their own infobox, and then very easily style it with CSS, separating code for content from code for presentation. This allows infoboxes created for the desktop skin to work easily on non-desktop skins by using standard syntax that can more easily be interpreted than custom code. And no, it actually is very possible to create like-for-like replacement with PI, or if not, infoboxes that are such a close match that it makes zero difference. I have done it before, and it's been done throughout the network (most obvious example being how Star Wars' infoboxes are basically identical in appearance compared to before). first i'm going to agree with Cienca.

staff controls what you can do with PI along with any bugs that may exist compared to either HTML or wikitext style templates. XML like syntax is not standard, not more than using HTML to build with.

During the transition from monobook to Oasis, there was mention at WOW's fork discussion that comments pertaining to eye sore complaints were deleted by Sannse (based on logs with reason "Spam"). Now that can't be verified besides those who made the charges.

Staff have been ever more encrouching especially with the js security, which was on them to harden and secure in the first place. not to mention staff accounts were hacked twice within a month period before they bothered to take any action. Most features they create are abandoned after a year at minimum before they give up. some features could be brought back though would be on condition of them executing correctly and within what they claim. appreciation isn't a bad thing, they forgot to add in the bot check and opt out. very few things that are done correct, outdone by the majority of horrible features released. from recent it appears they wish to do better. the last skin design was shot down but it appears they are probably still working on a better one, in the end that will still be forced.

previous more detailed view logs were removed in favor of insights, which tells you near nothing. there were a lot more statistics avaliable. you can buy the explaination it was barely used but at the same time those same statistics were used against staff in proving their claims wrong when attempting to convince a wiki to use some new feature.

the email system was removed with claim "barely used" yet AWA was most likely responsible for that as staff wanted to prevent the use of hidden private contact.

this isn't to mention that closed tickets with TimQ indicated while it wasn't immediate, they are thinking of moving away from mediawiki at some point.

that said, staff can demote people and replace them by hiring someone but that's not going to last long.