Thread:Andytrenom/@comment-38729545-20190801131253/@comment-38729545-20190802032804

““(Apologies in advance about my verbosity.)

Commenting with AndyTrenom's permission, as given here: https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Thread:3336598 Apologies if I'm being out of place; It seems both me and Andy feel I should simply comment myself, clarifying I had permission. (Despite us both knowing the opening post of this thread saying "If any non-Staff wishes to make a comment here, bring it up with one of the staff members who can convey your message here.".)

Now then....

My opinion is that we shouldn't punish fiction/profiles for the acts of people.

If I understand right (I'd like to think I do, but I'm not 100% sure), we're proposing to delete a number of profiles. I can agree, in part with that.

Some have poor premises (Wrong kind of character for our Wiki, whatever kind(s) that is, invalid feats, etc.), & in some cases, the deletion isn't "permanent" since some of the profile(s) in question may be so poorly formatted that remaking it would be easier than "fixing" it.

But then we come to profiles, accused of being made for memes/"shitposting", etc. I speak as someone who almost never makes profiles. (Solrock & Lunatone, & I think Equinox from Batman: the Brave and the Bold.) I don't go out of my way to make "memes".

If I may be so bold, it seems like a number of users feel we should delete the profiles for the INTENT of the USERS who created the profiles, rather than the contents themselves.

Correct me if I'm wrong, please.

Is how a fanbase behaves the fault of the source material?

Aren't Versus Threads one of the least important parts of this Wiki, as opposed to creating profiles, indexing statistics and revising our standards, policy & wiki?

I think that users editing in shoddy, improper ways, & behaving badly is the fault of the users, not the works that they (mis)behave with in their minds when they act.

Yes, there may be some Youtube personas, playing versions of themselves, or playing characters unrelated to themselves, especially in media other than Youtube. But their validity as profiles should be evaluated based on the work the profile is based on.

Not something like how the users misbehave regarding it, nor how "unprofessional" it makes us look; Plenty of legitimate works (Pokemon, My Little Pony, Kingdom Hearts, Sonic) have characters that are NOT thought of highly by some people.

Indeed, there are people who would think less of us for indexing characters from what we consider legitimate Verses.

Why is how disliked or non-serious seeming a work is by people who didn't contribute to the work's creation suddenly a criteria in its inclusion?

Feats in openings that are wildly inconsistent or gags.... "Feats" are just entertaining filler or aids in explaining their point of discussion. I think those are not good support for a profile.

But a large audience thinking "it's stupid!", "it's a joke!", "it's a meme!"?

Outlook by audiences on the work & outlook on our Wiki by audiences shouldn't be a factor, but rather, how qualified the work is itself, should be, I think. Users here who misbehave & do shoddy work regarding it should be punished, not the fiction.

And yes, sometimes characters in fiction may share a likeness, voice &/or name with a Youtuber or other real person.

But we should evaluate if they have a coherent story, capabilities, & personality traits that distinguish them from those who they share a likeness with.

The perspectives of audiences & the (mis)behaviour of users regarding a work from a given medium shouldn't make us evaluate it so differently from other works from already accepted mediums.

The work itself should be the factor, & people with problematic perspectives or behaviour should be ignored, or held at fault not the fiction.” By Imaginym

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Thread:3317528

Again as he has point out this is a opinion, not necessarily a 100% fact.

Yes, I get where Dargoo who advocate for deletion of YouTube profiles and the other who is against deletion of YouTube profiles are coming from, but here is the issue.

The issue will be we have no control on what will classify as what is real life and what is fiction in any verses as they could be both.

Take for example, The Nostalgic Critic as the setting of the series isn’t even strictly fictional as it is a mixture of both in real life setting and fictional setting.

To assume all of the YouTube profiles are strictly fictional is not only bordering on whatever or not they should be allowed, it is also going to in-depth as YouTube is a literal media medium, not the media itself.

In fact, YouTube has no control over their users and the content they published in a form of a video.

No seriously, this is literally the case for YouTube.

We have no control over something like YouTube as YouTube just like other websites such as Twitch and other streaming websites as they are for people to publish their own videos regarding anything.

They could play games, post a reaction video to One Punch Man, and ect,.

I not saying “Oh let’s disallowed YouTube profiles altogether”.

I saying we do have other wikis that basically allow YouTube profiles such as this one.

https://youtube.fandom.com/wiki/Channels

I not kidding.

We literally have a wiki for YouTube Channels and their YouTube users.