Forum:Wiki admin hierarchy

I'm new to this and I was just made an admin for a neglected wiki Physics. I've heard the terms: Are they all the same? Do they have equivalent privileges/responsibilities? I was wondering if someone could explain the administration hierarchy in some detail. Feel free to include any other levels in the hierarchy that I may not know about. Thanks in advance.Kjh4p 18:30, 25 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Founder
 * Sysop
 * Admin


 * Founder is the person who firstly requested a wiki from Wikia. (S)He is given sysop and bureaucrat status to the wiki (s)he requested if the request passes. Sysop (short from system operator) or admin is a person who has a few extra tools that normal users do not have, like rollback link (in order to easily revert vandalism) and option to block disrupting users. As they say in Wikipedia, admins/sysops are just regular user who a re given "a mop and a bucket" to clean up mess. :)


 * I hope this answers your questions. Feel free to post more questions to my talk page. --Jack Phoenix (Contact) 19:41, 25 February 2007 (UTC)


 * A little extra clarification and expansion. Sysops its more like a "moderator" term (comparing to forums). This charge is given to people wanting to take care and develop sub wiki pages (sub-forums) but their sysops power its only restricted to that specific wikia unless the user is giving sysops power on other wikia but only on those wikia he will have sysops power as mention before. In a individual wikia Sysops are known as Adminds (Administrators) of the determinate wikia but dont have full admin powers over the wikia (like access to the main code to modify it or certain wiki options that can only be activated by users with admin power aka "Staff"), Bureaucrat status is an additional tag for Sysops that means that Sysops has the power to change other users to Sysops or Sysops+Bureaucrats but cant remove the charge.

Founder is the term use to the user who started the wikia even when she/he has depart from that wikia it will be remember as the creator. but is given sysops power and if the community grows its then given bureaucrat status later on.

Staff (super moderators) is the people will help with any of your serious problems or more administrative side problems helping every one they can in all the wikia (they have more admin powers).

Also there is a group call Developers but does not show on the user rights those are the one that install the new features that work in all wikia.

Bots is a user that has special rights like his edits will not apear on the recent changes as normaly this are made by a program and what they do are massive changes like before "wikia" was known as "wikicities" so a bot was in charge of changing all the wikicities to wikia here in the central wikia.

There are other charges but im not familarize with them, as they are more cental wikia related but the ones that will affect your wiki are users, bots, sysops and bureocrats (last two as say before are the same minimal diference in rights and founder is included on them) --Cizagna (Talk) 22:10, 25 February 2007 (UTC) --Cizagna (Talk) 22:10, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

Don't forget that as per a discussion I had in the past, generaly someone who adopts a inactive wiki is also considered a founder. Basicly there are 2 sides, technical hierarchy, and social hierarchy. Sysop, Bureaucrat, Bot, and Staff are part of the technical hierarchy. Sysop gives access to all the basic tools for protecting, deleting, blocking, etc... Bureaucrat gives the ability to promote users to Sysop and additionaly Bureaucrat if desired, bot is as stated, used to make normal edits hidden from the recent changes for large automated tasks, and Staff is something I'm not completely farmiliar with, but I know it atleast gives access to the Userights page which allows for all user tags such as the bot tag to be changed. As for the social hierarchy, a founder generaly is the one the most responsible for the wiki, either because of starting it, addopting it, or by community opinion. The founder is also considered an administrator. Generaly administrators help out the comunity by blocking vandals, deleting pages tagged for deletion, and editing needed protected pages.
 * Just be glad you're not diving into a position in the Wikia Anime Project, instead of the simple Founder/Admin system (Founder only in the case of some wiki like The Gaiapedia I administrate), we've got a current total of 3 wiki in the project and more in the future, so instead of Founder/Admin, we have Project Head and Project Admin, and Wiki Head and Wiki Admin for each of the individual wiki. But a good thing to remember is that no-one owns a wiki, and just because someone is an admin dosen't mean they always have the last say, if an admin is being disruputive to the wiki then either by going to someone higher on the social hierarchy or the staff here at central an admin can be demoted. So it's always good to tie yourself to the community and instead of using the gifts your given, use reason and discussion to convince them to another side. Dantman (Talk) 00:31, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the info. That pretty much clears up the lingo. Having been made an admin for an abandoned wikia, how can I tell if I'm also a bureacrat? I would like to give another user admin status. Also, typically how many active admins are there for a given wikia? I know it is going to depend vastly on the particular wikia, traffic, size, etc., but I have a feeling that there should be more than just one (myself). Is this correct? Thinking 3 or 4 would be a comfortable number for Physics. -Kjh4p 01:47, 26 February 2007 (UTC)


 * I've never been on a wiki with more than one yet... There is obviously going to be more for the Wikia Anime Project because of it's sheer scale. But 1 good admin for a wiki is enough, especialy for starters. Just go to Special:Listusers, you can use the dropdown box to check what users have what flags, or you could type your username in the box to check what flags you have. Also, if you have bureaucrat status going to Special:Speciapages in the restricted section you'll have access to a page which is listed as "Make user into sysop". Dantman (Talk) 01:52, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Sadly you are not bureaucrat i have check it. You can use this faster link w:c:physics:Special:Listusers it will direct you to your wiki. Depends on the community size and quantity of edits the more edits the more sysops will be require as sysops need to be multi functionals going from one thing to another as they have to set the example in that wikia. --Cizagna (Talk) 02:02, 26 February 2007 (UTC)