User talk:Tasc

Bienvenido/Welcome
Hola, Tasc. Bienvenido a Wikia Central! --CocoaZen 01:38, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Muchas gracias CocoaZen por la bienvenida.
 * Thanks CocoaZen for the Wellcome.--Tasc 17:16, 23 November 2006 (UTC)

Comentarios/Comments
Por favor, agregar cualquier comentario nuevo usando (+) en el menú de arriba. Saludos, --Tasc 00:47, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

Please, add any new comment using (+) in the above menu, if you have the same editor. Any comment is very welcome. Regards,--Tasc 17:15, 23 November 2006 (UTC)

Images / imágenes
Hola Tasc - I don't think you can include an image directly from Wikicommons (or from another Wikia). You will need to download it to your machine and upload it to the Wikia where you want it. Please put the source information in the description on the image's page. (You can create links to Wikicommons: Main Page.) No pienso que usted puede incluir una imagen directamente de Wikicommons (o de otro Wikia). Usted necesitará descargarlo a su máquina y "upload" la a la Wikia donde usted la desea. Ponga por favor la información de la fuente en la descripción en la página de la imagen. (Puede crear acoplamientos a Wikicommons: Main Page.) (Espero que usted no importe de mi español practicante -- con ayuda de Wiktionary y de Babel Fish de AltaVista.) --CocoaZen 04:28, 19 November 2006 (UTC)


 * Thank you CocoaZen. I will do so with figures. On the other hand, don’t worry about the automatic translation. I do the same with Italian. I have to tell you that, although with some errors, it was perfectly understandable. And  I am sure that my “manual” English has also a lot of errors. Regards,--Tasc 14:29, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

Language / Lengua
Escribe Inglese bien. Este esta "manual". Espero que comprehenderle. ? (Quiero practicar, si no usted no importante.)  Si les hace muy facil, me gustaria recibir comentario en español. (And what I meant to say:) You write English well. This (translation) is "manual". I hope you can understand it. (I want to practice, if you don't mind). If you make them very easy (simple), I would like to receive comments in Spanish. Saludos, CocoaZen 15:12, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

Wikipedia and Wikia
I'm sorry I don't really understand your last message. (I don't think it's a language thing, but I'm switching to English this time anyway.) Wikipedia is supposed to have a neutral, fact-only (encyclopedic) point of view. So, they would erase personal genealogy information. That's one of the differences for Wikia. Wikia can allow articles with opinions or non-encyclopedic content. The scope of Wikia can vary. Some encourage a personal point of view, but others don't. You can re-use content from Wikipedia (with credit to the source) because it is GFDL. On the Wikia where I participate, I try to discourage that copying. If Wikipedia has a good article, point to it, use it as a source. But if your Wikia is going to be a copy of a sub-set of another site, why bother? (My opinion, not policy. And I think that using Wikipedia as a starting point is sometimes appropriate.)  As you point out, the links won't work. And not all of the links should work because Wikipedia probably has a wider fact-scope than any specific Wikia. If it's appropriate to the Wikia, you can post personal information or opinions on a Wikia. I don't know the standards for the Genealogy Wikia, but I would guess that you could post family tree information? or recommendations for good sources of birth and death records? I suggest asking Robin Patterson, who is an experienced, helpful Wikian and, I think, active on genealogy. I didn't understand what you said about a welcome. Some Wikia have people who try to make sure all new users are welcomed. Other Wikia don't do that. Either they don't have enough people who want to do that or they've decided not to do so. About the specific article you pointed to... please make sure you credit the Wikipedia source. You may have already done that, but I didn't see it. I suggest "unlinking" articles that don't belong on genealogy or cross link them to an appropriate Wikia article (or sometimes a Wikipedia article). For instance, places could link to the Cities Wikia. (There is also a World Wikia, but Cities is more for inhabitants, and World for travelers.) I hope that helps. --CocoaZen 17:00, 23 November 2006 (UTC)


 * Thanks CocoaZen for your detailed and useful comments that I will follow. I understand know that the objectives of Wikipedia an Genealogy.wikia are quite different (fortunately). I will acknowledge any section that belongs to Wikipedia (although I wrote the entire article), as soon as the article in Wikipedia is stable (it is being reduced right now). Most of it will go in genealogy.wiki since the wikipedia version is already about 50% and it is going to be reduced a lot more by the editors (because is considered own research, primary source, etc.). Thanks again.--Tasc 17:12, 23 November 2006 (UTC)


 * De nada. Y gracias con la ayuda por (para) ser y estar.  Conosco, pero no entiendo.  In other words, I've been taught about it, but still don't know which to use many time.  Tengo problemas con por y para tambien.
 * I though you'd probably already know much of what I was saying, but sometimes it's just a little piece of that which gives people a problem. For instance, if you wrote all the content you copied, then you have the copyright, and if I understand correctly, you don't need to refer to Wikipedia, but if someone else contributed, even a small part, then you should.  It probably makes sense in your case to say that there is a shorter version of the article on Wikipedia.  And, on the Wikipedia version, you could point to the non-encyclopedic version on genealogy.  It looked like a very rich and well researched article to me.  Good luck!  --CocoaZen 17:46, 23 November 2006 (UTC)


 * Thanks a lot CocoZen! Yes, unfortunately I wrote al the article. I say unfortunately, because my hope was to be able to find other members of this family a last name willing to contribute, mainly from England, France, Italy, USA and why not, perhaps Germany. I haven’t search in Germany yet, but I read the cult to Sancta Columba also was spread over there.  You know, my last name is actually "de Santa Coloma" (my great-grandfather reduced it to Santa Coloma). This means that the last name and family came from some town named Santa Coloma (called toponymic), probably because some Church dedicated to this Saint was there.  However, I was not able to find yet which was the original town, if we have one and if all the people with this last name are the same family, something else to study.  But is highly motivating that I found recently the last name "de Sancta Columba" in the old UK and also in France.  Curiously, “Bonafusus de Sancta Columba” was the first person in history to be granted a patent (by Henri III). He was a merchant, commencing between France (Lyon, his birth place) and England in the 13th century!  I have many histories like this in the article, including one related to Nessie, the monster of the lake Ness! (Although only to show that Saint Columba had nothing to do, apparently, with Saint Columba of Cornwall (the virgin).  I think the histories are very interesting.  Hope to be able to translate them to English soon, but in the next four weeks I have a grant application to submit, that will take almost all of my time. Then, in January we have vacations, so, probably I will start with the translation in March. Kind regards, --Tasc 20:33, 23 November 2006 (UTC)