Forum:Having the license template selection show for Add photo

Uberfuzzy locked Forum:Customizing the contents shown through "Add an image", so I can't put my response there. I'm not going to use Special:Contact here because I want a response that other admins can see, since it concerns the ToU. Tagged Staff needed.

The license template dropdown menu was added to the "Add a Photo" popup dialog, but it is hidden by default in a collapse "More Options" part of the dialog which I'm sure many users will never look at.

My question is this: would moving the license template dropdown menu out of the "More Options" area so it is always showing be a violation of the ToU?

It doesn't block functionality or ads. -- Fandyllic (talk &middot; contr) 16 Jun 2011 2:18 PM Pacific


 * Along these same lines, and not intending to dilute Fandyllic’s posting, I think that Add a photo should also display the contents of MediaWiki:Uploadtext. This text is truly crucial as it is the only point at which the maintainers of a wiki can communicate with the members the wiki’s guidelines for uploading images. Thanks! — Spike Toronto  1:07AM EDT, June 17, 2011


 * On our wiki we NEED Special:Upload and Special:MultipleUpload to be the unique way to upload images on the Wiki, since I created a special JavaScript thing to do several validations on the "destination filename", suggest changes on it and even auto add categories o license based on the destination filename. Also, rejects any upload that has both license and description empty, or with some blacklisted names. Those implementations are unable to do in the "Add a Photo" popup dialog so Wikia should provide an alternative to that so communities can enforce local upload policies. --Ciencia Al Poder (talk) -WikiDex 09:59, June 17, 2011 (UTC)


 * Adding back Staff needed removed by DaNASCAT without comment. -- Fandyllic (talk &middot; contr) 5 Dec 2011 12:17 PM Pacific
 * Some very good comments here which went unnoticed by staff. Really needs staff help for sure.
 * I am very interested as well by the template/ code which ciencia has added to a wiki. I would really like to enforce people to use licensing on a wiki but currently that is not given to me and thus creates huge open windows for violation of the Terms of Use from Wikia. Sloppy in my perspective.
 * I have a feeling staff missed this thread somehow, needs their response tough.
 * I have a feeling staff missed this thread somehow, needs their response tough.

The following CSS causes the draw down licence list to appear whenever files are uploaded via Add an image: Hope this helps. As for attribution, I cannot remember who wrote it. Sorry. — Spike Toronto  22:45, December 11, 2011 (UTC)


 * Still, it requires staff attention because i think it needs to be standard open instead of fiddling with css to be able to comply with Wikia's Terms of Use. Hence, it should stop you from uploading content without the needed license, by adressing that you need to fill in a field (the license field) and source.




 * Wikia has generally ignored CC-BY-SA requirements for a while. Many people have already tried to get Wikia to comply with proper licensing laws and gotten nothing more than silence. Unfortunately, you aren't likely to get anything better than that.


 * I do wonder how long it will take for staff to actually reply here or that i do need to notch it up a level and start blogging about it to get it to their attention. Done it before, so i might be doing it again, since it did get the attention drawn to it last time. It also has quite some correlation from my point of view with the subject i blogged about that time.


 * Spike, do you have a link to a wiki where the CSS you posted is in place and working? -- Fandyllic (talk &middot; contr) 14 Dec 2011 2:16 PM Pacific

Sorry for the delay. I’ve been on a wikibreak. Anyway Fandy, we run it this way over at the Admin Tools Wiki. It is not a ToU violation since it takes away no functionality and, in fact, by defaulting to “open”, enhances functionality by letting the user see the need for a requisite licencing template. To see it in operation, open any random page in the editor (click here). Under Add features and media, click on Image. Using the Browse button, select a file from your computer for upload, then press the Upload button. At that point, you should see the licencing pulldown defaulting to an open state on the lower right-hand side of the dialogue box. Hope this helps. — Spike Toronto  14:06, December 18, 2011 (UTC)


 * Your assurances are nice, but I was really waiting for Wikia staff to comment. Reviving this thread, so they can't use the "Archived" status as an excuse to ignore it. -- Fandyllic (talk &middot; contr) 28 Mar 2012 1:53 PM Pacific
 * This has been discussed for a while - making the tab default open. We are hoping to make improvements to the general image UI later in the year and at that time this feedback from both you users and us, experienced wiki users who happen to be staff, may come to fruition in changing the licensing display. However, at this time, I do not foresee this changing in the short term nor can I promise it will change in the long-term. If unlicensed images is an issue on your wiki, I have no performance/functionality issues with the CSS or JS methods mentioned thus far in this thread nor do I interpret the Terms of Use to be against any of the methods previously described.
 * If you ever have any concerns about whether your CSS or JS tweak breaks our Terms of Use, you may contact us directly asking for an official opinion. --daNASCAT http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb32675/wikia/images/e/e9/WikiaStaff.png (help forum | blog) 00:05, March 29, 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks Tim. See, that wasn't so hard. I will say that using Special:Contact for questions that are shared by several admins/users is only good if the answer shows up in a place like this or the Admin forums. We can't link to answers given in private e-mails to individual users. -- Fandyllic (talk &middot; contr) 29 Mar 2012 10:03 AM Pacific