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Poker cheating link
Angela,

Thanks for the follow-up on the issue of offensive Google ads. The specific ad in question says:


 * See Your Opponents Cards
 * Plus 3 More Devious Tricks To Make You Big Cash!
 * www.cheat-at-poker.com

Let me know if you need any other info from me. Thanks, PhilipR 18:22, 14 Nov 2005 (UTC)


 * Ok. I've just blocked that one for now. When there's a larger community there, it might be worth having some sort of procedure where ad blocking happens as the result of community consensus. Angela (talk) 23:43, 14 Nov 2005 (UTC)

Quick question about anonymous editing
Hi, Angela,

I have an idea for a wikicity, but one of the considerations I'm taking into account is that there is a strong possibility it would work better allowing only logged in user edits, no anonymous editing. This is because the subject matter pertains to a highly controversial topic, and one of the reasons I want to do this away from wikipedia is so that we can jettison the NPOV policy. Opening up to unlimited anonymous edits would, I predict, make the goals of the project not attainable, simply because we would spend our time "arguing" against the other "side" rather than developing our own content. My question is, is the allowance of anonymous editing an absolutely unconditional policy for a wikicity to adopt? If it is not, then I might be interested in starting a wikicity. If it is, no harm done, I would simply try to start an independent wiki elsewhere using wikimedia software. Thanks. 198.59.188.232 16:46, 16 Nov 2005 (UTC)


 * How would preventing "anonymous editing" help? I'm assuming by this, you mean people would need to create an account. However, since creating an account actually makes you more anonymous (because your IP is no longer shown), and it only takes a few seconds to make an account, I'm not sure how this would help. How about trying it with normal open editing and see how it goes? I think it will be more important to have a strong community willing to enforce the wiki's policies than to lock it down with technical restrictions before it's even started. Angela (talk) 17:09, 16 Nov 2005 (UTC)


 * You have a point. I guess I have another question then. You have to realise, my primary experience (only experience, really) is 2.5 years working at wikipedia. So, I've internalised the policies there to the point they seem "natural" like the way the planets move. What I'm asking is, suppose the wikicity makes the decision specifically *not* to be completely NPOV, and to actually take a general stand on the issue in question. (The subject happens to be a medical issue.) Would it therefore be considered okay to block users who make edits repeatedly showing that they disagree with the aim of the project and specifically with the general POV agreement of this particular wiki? There is a *lot* of disagreement among people even within a general POV, so a type of NPOV will have to reign. But I have a feeling the wiki might start to get flooded by the mainstream opinion (the POV I'm considering is definitely a minority opinion and many people are, let's say...extremely hostile to it.) And one of the reasons I wanted to do this here is to develop content among a (relatively large, I can easily see dozens if not hundreds of people contributing once they know about it) group of people, but without having to spend the majority of the time dealing repeatedly with issues that many of us feel have already been addressed over and over again over the years. Thanks. 198.59.188.232 18:02, 16 Nov 2005 (UTC)


 * Just so I don't sound like I'm an out-of-touch idealist blustering in the wind, I would point out that the subject topic I am considering has an active MSN group with nearly 2,000 members, and although it is the "minority" viewpoint, it is the largest MSN group concerned with the topic, i.e. the "mainstream" discussion groups are smaller. I can think of a dozen people I know personally (and have known for several years) that I could contact to begin making contributions. Not all of them may jump in, but I bet many of them would. Even if not, I am willing to work for a few months to start several hundreds articles, using a combination of original material and importing selected material from wikipedia. 198.59.188.232 18:42, 16 Nov 2005 (UTC)


 * After looking around the list of wikicities, I notice there are a number of "controversial" topics which form the basis of a wikicity. (E.g. Scientology, some of the political activism wikis, atheism, heck even anti-smoking, etc.) So, maybe it's doable. Again, my the feeling I have in my stomach is that I have been so indoctrinated into NPOV from working at wikipedia, that I would find it difficult to block someone based primarily or solely on the fact that they clearly are opposed to the aims of the wiki, rather than on explicit violations of NPOV policy or vandalism, e.g. Take Scientology wiki, e.g. I am imagining that if someone with a clear "anti-Scientology" POV comes on that wiki, and starts posting a lot of anti-Scientology references and information, that such a contributor would be blocked after a while because they were clearly not in the mindset of the goals of the wiki. *Even if their contributions satisfied the conditions of verifiability, notability, and NPOV standard at wikipedia.* I hope my concern makes sense. And thanks for taking time to address my concerns. 198.59.188.232 18:38, 16 Nov 2005 (UTC)


 * I can understand the concern, but I would advise trying it out first. We've had little problem with controversy on the wikis so far. Unlike a large wiki like Wikipedia, the smaller topic-focused wikis tend not to attract POV pushers. Angela (talk) 16:57, 17 Nov 2005 (UTC)

Acceptable file formats & changing header color
Hi Angela,

I'm not sure if this is the best place to post this, but here goes... I'm the admin of the GameBlender-4-Ever wiki and I've got a couple of admin related questions:


 * 1) The main file format relating to GameBlender is the .blend binary file format. File sizes aren't normally as large as you'd expect, only about 5-6 MB max.  Is it alright for my users to upload these files to the wiki?  I know they're not technically image files, but I can't find a list of acceptable / not acceptable file formats on WikiCities. 
 * 2) Is it possible to change the color of the  header on a single page?  In other words the header that displays the page title?

Cheers, --Gorgan almighty 15:46, 17 Nov 2005 (UTC)


 * replied at w:c:gameblender:User talk:Gorgan almighty. Angela (talk) 16:54, 17 Nov 2005 (UTC)

About ZlatiborWiki
Hello, Angela. Do you remember the date ZlatiborWiki was opened, so I could write it in Zlatibor page? And what to do with the Interwiki link? I wrote zb: and zlatibor: there, but it still remained red.--Ђорђе Д. Божовић 00:14, 21 Nov 2005 (UTC)

User Jellochuu helped with the interwiki link, so that's OK now. --Ђорђе Д. Божовић 00:29, 21 Nov 2005 (UTC)

It was the 17th of November. Thanks anyway. --Ђорђе Д. Божовић 02:15, 21 Nov 2005 (UTC)

Faded out larger version
Image:4angela.png -- I used http://www.fileformat.info/convert/image/svg2raster.htm and lightened it in photoshop. Come pokle me on IRC if you need different. Splarka 05:35, 24 Nov 2005 (UTC)


 * Image:4angela lighter.png -- more lighter, and cropped (when I saw how misshapen and dark the other was once uploaded). Splarka 05:40, 24 Nov 2005 (UTC)


 * Angela, what you need to do is to make a big rectangle over the image in Inkscape. Right click the rectangle, select "Fill and stroke". Set the fill color to white, and set the transparency down until it looks how you want it to. Make sure you don't use a stroke. Then, from the file menu, export as bitmap. I made a faded out big version too, Image:wclogo_faded2000px.png. --Phroziac (talk) 13:28, 24 Nov 2005 (UTC)


 * Thanks both for your help. The image was great, although the conversion from OpenOffice to PowerPoint made it a bit dark. Angela (talk) 06:53, 25 Nov 2005 (UTC)


 * Welcome! Splarka 01:27, 26 Nov 2005 (UTC)

Boxes don't display properly on IE
Hi Angela (and welcome back!) :D

I'm having trouble with boxes on my GameBlender Wiki. I've created templates to make the boxes easier to make, and I copied the style of the boxes on the WikiCities homepage as basis for the template.

My trouble is that the boxes look fine on Firefox, but on IE they are missing the right-hand-side border. A good example of this is Template:Example Tutorial Listing. The root templates where the layout for the box is defined are Template:Row Of Boxes and Template:Box With Border.

I'd really appreciate it if you could take a look and tell me what I'm doing wrong. Cheers. :D
 * &mdash;Gorgan almighty 11:07, 1 Dec 2005 (UTC)


 * I've looked at it and I've no idea what the problem is. I guess it's just an IE bug, since the MediaWiki footer also has no right edge in IE, as you can see on any short page, like . Angela (talk) 18:01, 2 Dec 2005 (UTC)

Problems rendering Latex
Hi Angela. I've been having some problems rendering Latex: see here. Any ideas? Cheers, Brockill 11:17, 3 Dec 2005 (UTC)


 * I don't know anything about this, but I've recorded the bug at 188. Angela (talk) 12:25, 3 Dec 2005 (UTC)


 * Cheers Brockill 12:56, 3 Dec 2005 (UTC)

RegiaWiki
Thank you so much, Angela, that's exactly what I wanted. Cheers!--Tico 21:21, 3 Dec 2005 (UTC)

New Translation
It's been there for a while :). 01:24, 4 Dec 2005 (UTC)

Sorry.
I'm sorry for asking you this if it sounds dumb, but you know the Megaman Wiki well you should your an admin there. Um, I'm an admin as well. Well, the most active admin there left and now I'm stuck with an inactive wiki, so should I just let it fall apart since well I can't do much there since I'm just a Bureaucrat there and I can't make that big of changes well I'm anxious right now and I'm worried since I like that wiki and I don't want it to fall apart, so you get the idea right? Now if this doesn't make any since then sorry I will rephrase it, oh and please excuse my nightmarish grammar. Bassium!


 * I'll reply at w:c:megaman:User talk:Bassium!. Angela (talk) 13:12, 4 Dec 2005 (UTC)

Yes, um you see the person who owned it left, and I'm pretty sure he was a devoloper, I was wondering if I should take his place. You know pass the torch down. Bassium!

Ok, a user by the name of Tompkins made it, right? Well if so he was the one who left the wiki, now I need to be able to edit the backgrounds since well, the other admins there such as you and Jasonr and all of them are inactive, I need to be able to do all the stuff to the maximum right? Like changing the system stuff not just being able to make users admins and deleting stuff, so is there a way to were I am able to become a devoloper there? Bassium!

Is there a certain page here I can read to get some info on wiki editing?Bassium!

Wiki doesn't exist?
I don't know if this is just a temporarily technical problem, but the past couple days I've had occasional problems with pages not coming up, and it says, "This Wiki [AIDS Dissent] does not exist." I think it is a technical problem, because the wiki has only been up 2 weeks, and I wasn't told it was in any jeopardy, and also pages do come up occasionally. The problem has gotten worse the past day or so. Revolver 22:18, 4 Dec 2005 (UTC)
 * The problems continue, I was only able to get Eliza Jane Scovill up after submitting it numerous times, and then every time I wanted to edit it, several times. Strange things happen, like the article comes up, but the history page insists the article doesn't exist! Some kind of technical problem. Revolver 00:26, 5 Dec 2005 (UTC)
 * I'm having the same problem with Legendary Journeys, although it doesn't seem as bad (usually one reload fixes the problem for that page). Judging from comments above, it seems to be only affecting the recently created wikis.--Tim Thomason 02:48, 5 Dec 2005 (UTC)
 * Every now and then I get a 1&1 (hosting company) page come up in French telling me that this domain has been registered by one of their clients.
 * &mdash;Gorgan almighty 10:13, 5 Dec 2005 (UTC)

If the bugs keep occuring, please report them at bugs.wikia.com so Jason knows about them. If you're seeing something from 1&1, you're using the wrong URL (probably wikicites.com instead of wikicities.com. Angela (talk) 21:08, 9 Dec 2005 (UTC)

Democracy Wiki
In checking wiki's out, I've discovered what appears to be a takeover of sorts. Some group calling itself Venturing Crew 898 has been setting up a number of pages since Dec 4 having nothing to do with the focus of the wiki. So far they haven't mucked with the main page or any other pre-existing pages, so most people probably haven't notice anything.--Kirk 22:24, 5 Dec 2005 (UTC)


 * Thanks for pointing it out. I'll have a look. Angela (talk) 21:12, 9 Dec 2005 (UTC)


 * I've redirected the irrelevant pages for now and will delete them if there's no response. Angela


 * These are now deleted. Angela (talk) 08:24, 28 Dec 2005 (UTC)

Logo contest
Development of the logo projects seems to have come to a stand-still. I don't think any more modifications are going to be made. I for one am happy with the final version of Insertwackynamehere's and my logo. Isn't it about time for the final decision by Wikia?
 * &mdash;Gorgan almighty 16:05, 6 Dec 2005 (UTC)


 * Sorry, I've been away a lot this month. I'll do something about this once I'm properly back online next week. Angela (talk) 21:12, 9 Dec 2005 (UTC)


 * This is now waiting for our legal team to sort out trademark issues before the winner is announced. Angela (talk) 08:24, 28 Dec 2005 (UTC)

Adoption of UK railways
I would like to adopt the UK railways wiki. Could you please give me admin powers there. Thanks, TAS 15:15, 10 Dec 2005 (UTC)


 * Sure, I'll do that now. Angela (talk) 17:29, 10 Dec 2005 (UTC)

Other characters & admin
How to you put special accents and other characters on the edit page (like Wikipedia). I need some letters, with macrons, for the New Zealand Wiki And earlier I made User:Robin Patterson an admin, but i also on accident made User:User:Robin Patterson, if possible, could you remove User:User:Robin Patterson, but keep User:Robin Patterson, on Thank you, Brian New Zealand 22:45, 11 Dec 2005 (UTC)


 * I think that might need an extension installed. I'll check with Jason. Since User:User:Robin Patterson doesn't exist, that account won't have admin access anyway, so there's nothing to remove. Angela 16:07, 13 Dec 2005 (UTC)

24 wiki
How do I upload an image? I have several screengrabs of Jack's pistol and would like ot update the article


 * You need to login first. Then go to Special:Upload, or click the "upload file" link in the sidebar, on the wiki where you want the image to be used. Angela (talk) 09:49, 15 Dec 2005 (UTC)

Oops, response to email
Finally checked my email. I submitted that irc script to the en.wp/script talkpage here. Is that the one you wanted? Cheers! Splarka 11:33, 19 Dec 2005 (UTC)


 * That's it. Thanks! Angela (talk) 03:12, 20 Dec 2005 (UTC)

Tigerwolf on Wikifur
Hi, I am one of the admins on WikiFur. The individual who asked to be "excluded" has a long history is basically being the imposter of this guy.

We really need to talk about this. Are you available in IM or email?

Thanks. --Dmuth 03:36, 22 Dec 2005 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the help over there. That should leave all parties satisified.  --Dmuth 04:32, 22 Dec 2005 (UTC)

Request for an english version of Wikifun
Hi Angela, as the Jokebook on the english wikibooks is deleted, i want to ask you again if we should start an english version of Wikifun. Most of the stuff could be moved directly to the Wikifun-Project. If we start a other language-version of Wikifun, there should be a main site where the language can be choosed (like the C++ Wikicity) and several subdomains for each language.

I wish you and the whole wikicities-team a white X-mas - keep up the good work!! :-)

MfG Achim 13:32, 22 Dec 2005 (UTC)


 * I've sent you an email about this. Angela (talk) 08:24, 28 Dec 2005 (UTC)

Request for Adminship for Wikicity
I don't want to sound greedy but I'll take you up on your offer on being admin for the Pro Wrestling Wikicity. I'll try my best to revive it. Although, I am going to need a lot of help, I'll try. Thanks a lot Angela! SWD316 04:48, 23 Dec 2005 (UTC)

Merry Christmas
Hi Angela. Just want to wish you a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year! Thanks for all your work at Wikicities, you've helped to make it a great friendly community (much nicer than Wikipedia in my opinion).
 * &mdash;Gorgan almighty 11:37, 23 Dec 2005 (UTC)


 * Thank you. :) Angela (talk) 08:24, 28 Dec 2005 (UTC)

Please help!
Hello! I,m ZelDelet [] from Poland Uncyclopedia []. We have a problem about Sysops. In Poland uncyclopedia is 2 sysops, one - "Yossarian" (bureaucratic) just disappear, and now (for 1,5 month) is only one sysop online. One sysop it,s to few! Please help!

Ps: I,m sorry for mestike in my English language.

212.33.81.18 10:46, 20 Dec 2005 (UTC) []


 * replies at w:c:nonsensopedia:Dyskusja Wikipedysty:ZelDelet. Angela (talk) 11:10, 20 Dec 2005 (UTC)

Yes. Now, when the second admin is alone, is too busy. He needs some help to remove a vandalsm (to talk:[]). Official request and details as for chosse an admin was presents in two-three days.

Thanks to talk and interest a problem.

Dear administrators of Wikicities, I am writing to you to ask you for assigning some new administrators to Nonsensopedia project. It is an project being strongly fast developed, but the development is held up, because we do not have enough people allowed to administer Nonsensopedia. Now there are only two administrators - me (Zeartul) and Yossarian (who have not logged in for more than one month). There are more and more vandalisms and I am unable to get along with it as I am the only active administrator here. Having it in mind I would like to ask you to give to users ZelDelet and Jaboja administrator privileges. I belive you will positively consider my petition.

Yours sincerely, Zeartul 19:24, 23 Dec 2005 (UTC)


 * It would be best to have a vote on the wiki amongst the community there to decide who the new admins should be. --Angela (talk) 07:22, 24 Dec 2005 (UTC)
 * But you mean on the Wikicities, or on the Nonsensopedia? Because we already had a short vote on Nonsensopedia (link (only in polish)) Zeartul 08:36, 24 Dec 2005 (UTC)
 * I thing the problem is that Nonsensopedias community is too small to decide... JaBoJa 19:15, 26 Dec 2005 (UTC)


 * Zeartul is a now a bureaucrat there, so he is able to make other users into admins using Special:Makesysop. Angela (talk) 08:24, 28 Dec 2005 (UTC)
 * Thank you very much, Angela! Zeartul 09:39, 28 Dec 2005 (UTC)