User talk:Angela

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Changing image in HowTo
I wonder how to change the left-up image in the HowTo project - any image should be good even empty for now...


 * An admin needs to do that. Do you have a user name? If so, you can upload an image, then let me know, and I can make it the logo for that wiki. Angela (talk) 22:43, 2 Oct 2005 (UTC)

Falling behind or error?
A few weeks ago I submitted a request for a new wiki devoted to the works of Japanese author Hajime Kanzaka (Slayers, Lost Universe, etc.). I have not received a reply from you yet. Have you simply fallen behind on requests or was there some sort of error that will require me to submit again? --Argy 23:36, 2 Oct 2005 (UTC)


 * This exists at Kanzaka.wikicities.com. Angela (talk)

Regarding Gameinfo
I don't understand the problem with just adding guide content to gameinfo. Have you tried to discuss with the users there what changes would be needed? I think it would be a fork of that wiki to start another one so similar to it. Please reply on user talk:Angela since it might take a while for me to notice replies on this page. Angela (talk) 23:48, 29 Sep 2005 (UTC)


 * Hm, I guess I should check here more often. Anyway, the problem was just that I couldn't work out how to have two distinct interfaces for speedy access to each content type without making it ungainly and/or confusing for editors and visitors alike. However after looking around at a few other wikis and some of the larger wikicities, and especially discovering how the MediaWiki: pages affect the interface, I've worked out pretty much how the solution will work. Things have been so hectic over here that somewhere along the line I completely forgot to keep you updated on this. So, long story short, the other wikicity is no longer necessary. Thanks for all your patience. :) Garrett 09:27, 4 Oct 2005 (UTC)

Database corruption
Hi Angela!

Good to hear from you, if not the best circumstances...!

In reference to your message at User talk:Andrewa, I'm sure that the edit is not mine, despite what the history now says. The edit summary is from one of my edits, but this edit appears to have disappeared completely, it's no longer in the history. I'm afraid I can't remember the exact text of this lost edit, but it was adding a short reply to Pjotr'k's post concerning Frère Roger, not all but blanking the page.

Recovering the lost edit is of no great importance to me, but it would be nice to remove my userid from the blanking. Andrewa 06:45, 5 Oct 2005 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the reply. Jason is working on resolving the corruption now. Angela (talk)

Copyright Question
I'm honestly not concerned about this, but a number of users of polaqu: have brought this up. Wikicities, as you of course know, uses the GFDL. The main content of the D&D game, including what we use to build rules off of, the System Reference Document, uses another copyright called the Open Gaming License (.RTF file). Since we're all gamers and not lawyers (or even vaguely copyright-informed), any idea of any incompatibilities between the two licenses? Your input would be much appreciated. Mathx314(talk)(email) 23:51, 6 Oct 2005 (UTC)
 * You've probably noticed by now Angela, but I've answered this since I've been in contact with this license in the past. Of course if you still want to add your thoughts go right ahead. :) Garrett 04:48, 11 Oct 2005 (UTC)
 * Ok, thanks. Angela (talk) 18:49, 11 Oct 2005 (UTC)

Tucson into Cities
Could you freeze and move the Tucson pages to Cities as soon as is convenient? If possible, preface all page names with Tucson. I was waiting for a timing answer from Kim, but have not heard anything, and there have been not changes to Tucson for over a week. Thanks! (I'll check for answers here.) --CocoaZen 22:12, 9 Oct 2005 (UTC)


 * Since there are so few pages, and almpst all edited by just one person, it may be safer to manually copy and paste them over unless there's a reason not to. Angela (talk) 17:54, 10 Oct 2005 (UTC)

Spamming in swedish memory alpha!
Hello Angela! Since the creator of the swedish memory alpha hasn't done anything for quite some time, and no one else has admins privligies, I therefore cometh to thee for guidance.

IP addresses 213.212.45.66 and 83.248.109.53 are spamming about stupid stuff, apparently just for fun. Could you please help us by stopping them? Peter R 17:29, 11 Oct 2005 (UTC) (BTW: If you could make me and OnO to admins, we could maybe get this section on the road... After all - we are the only who does anything here :


 * I've made you an admin there. Angela (talk) 18:49, 11 Oct 2005 (UTC)

Star Trek Fanon
It is my intention that eventually fanon will be added to the non-canon wiki, after a review process. Such a process has not yet been formed because it has not been necessary. (We have had three fanon entries so far, and all were copied directly from The Hidden Frontier wiki without permission. For that reason, they were promptly deleted)  There are many fine sources that are not liscensed by Paramount. The most comprehensive Trek timeline I know of (over a megabyte of reference and commentary in .txt format) includes almost any date that has been published in print, but even that does not include any but the highest quality of Internet fanon.

USS Audacious is a prime example of fanon that is not supported by canon. Allow me to demonstrate. The following is a page describing the ship. Portions in bold are supported by canon or resonable extrapolation. Italics are my own comments.


 * The USS Audacious is the only vessel in Starfleet that can fire while cloaked. Why should it be entirely unique in such an important way?  This is a classic part of the "super-ship," which makes it all but invulnerable.  The Audacious is equiped with a bio nero [sic: bio-neural] artificial intelligence.  A holographic representation of the Audacious A.I. is referred to as AUDI.  AUDI can assume multi [sic] emergency subroutines.  I will admit, this gives RPGers more freedom, but it's simply not in keeping with Star Trek ideals.  If machines can explore for us, why send ships?


 * E.C.H - Emegency Command Hologram This was shown as a prototype


 * E.E.H - Emergency Engineer Hologram


 * E.M.H - Emergency Medical Hologram


 * The Audacious is outfitted with bio gel packs throughout the enter [sic] vessel giving her a fast response time to any orders givin [sic] to her.

While none of this is absolutely impossible, assuming the right backstory, a good deal of it is not plausible within the Star Trek canon. USS Audacious attempts to get around that by claiming to be launched 45 years after the latest Star Trek movie. If one accepts that though, it is remarkably slow. Ships 50 years older than it are just as fast.

The real problems would come up when ten other RPGs claimed to have the only ship that can fire while cloaked, are far faster, and have a never-before seen "giga-phaser" sticking out from their saucer. There must be some standards for inclusion, a problem that I believe has been pointed out for Wikipedia itself. On this wiki, that standard has so far been Paramount's license. There are contradictions within licensed products, but no more so than in canon Trek.

I would be happy to set up a review process for fanon material, but I doubt "USS AUDACIOUS" will make the cut. --Chops 04:21, 20 Oct 2005 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the detailed reply. I guess a new wiki will be best. Angela (talk) 20:42, 20 Oct 2005 (UTC)

AW COME ON!! That detailed reply was VERY short sighted and done with EXTREME ignorance.. This person didn't even read the ENTIRE website.. Not to mention, The USS Audadacious ( http://muraudi.proboards44.com/ )no longers fires while cloaked. And thats mostly because someone less lazy and cowardly simply e-mailed me their opinion.. Yeah me.. "The person who created USS Audacious" They conveyed some of the stuff Angela or whom ever wrote that long winded and in-accurate summery of the USS Audacious.. To DATE, there has been (NO) major rpg that centered its base around a ship that fires while cloaked! Coulda, Woulda, Shoulda's are great but could you be juuuus a lil more fair and base your blind opinions on other rpg sites with ships that fire while cloaked? I mean DUDE! Did you even roleplay on the Audacious? (BEFORE) you formed this opinion? are you even a Star trek roleplayer? If so.. what sim? what website? how long? My guess.. you aint been playing long enough to spit.. Its NOT just fannon.. its a FREAKIN GAME! A (ROLEPLAY) game. Gee-zuss!!! the name roleplay is almost on EVERY page to the freakin website! Just fire out short sighted opinions with out even freakin emailing or private messaging the person who created the website.. In this (ROLEPLAY) game. You stick within a reasonable Star trek genre and premise then you create your own.. Its a game (BASED) of of Star trek! and NO its nowhere NEAR Star Trek: Hidden Frontier.. That fact that you even typed that shows me how clueless you are to online roleplay! The USS Audacious is a online game not an online Fan movie like (Startrek H.F)If you make it completely CANON then you might as well stick with roleplaying already established characters.. whats the fun in THAT??!!! Fan fic (R.P.G.)allows others to add new characters.. NEW IDEAS and most of all fun to something we consider to be a "GAME" I mean talk about "Don't hate the playah hate the game?"

P.S. You wrote something else that tickled me with laughter..

Angela - copied directly from The Hidden Frontier wiki without permission. Star trek: Hidden frontier did NOT start off with permission. They started of EXACTLY the way the USS Audacious rpg started.. Just a bunch of fans expressing themselves creativily through Startrek.. I'm sure some of them might CLAIM they started off legit! But truth is.. They are fanfic, fannon or any other clever nic name you can give us Trekkies/Trekkers, who add to Star trek!! I am SO stunned and dissappointed that you didn't even attempt to learn more about something before posting an opinion! Shame on you!


 * er... who are you? And what are you talking about? Are you objecting to this being on its own wiki? Are you talking to me or to Chops? I'm afraid I don't understand your post or why you are being so rude on my talk page. Angela (talk)

Wow.. Uh.. I thought I was pretty clear I was responding to the post about USS Audacious.. Uh.. I even mentioned that I was the owner of the USS Audacious rpg.. Although I must admitt it gives me a sinking feeling of guilt that my response was rude.. It was in response to whom ever made that comment about the USS Audacious. It was flat out wrong.. "AND" it really appeared that the comments about the USS Audacious was based on it being fan fic or fanon and thats not fair.. it would be like comparing Tiger woods to Micheal Vic.. one plays golf and one plays Football.. The USS Audacious is a Star trek roleplay game being judged off of some kind of Fanon.. The ONLY reason I responded to this ad was because it is listed on the YAHOO search engine! Lots of fans of the USS Audacious rpg ( http://muraudi.proboards44.com )saw your ad on Yahoo and came here to read the unfair comments posted here.. Naturally some of them informed me about it and I responded in kind.. I realllllly wish I would of calmed down BEFORE I posted because I fear my angery reply distracted more attention to my anger instead of the point I was trying to convey.. I was rude.. and for that I am sorry. But there was a line about my RPG being copied from the fanon website STAR TREK: Hidden Frontier.. which was mind blowing because the USS Audacious roleplay started out as a roleplay by email websited based on YAHOO GROUPS dated way back in 1998! THATS BEFORE Star trek H.F. began to be popular enough for anyone from the USS Audacious roleplay group, to copy their plot. I regret making any offensive comments but I do feel vindicated in stating that the first ad on this page about the USS Audacious was unfair.. I will leave you alone now..

Hi, First I must ask you, Who died and made you the official Star Trek Know-it-all?

I have been a Trek fan probably far longer than you have and I can tell you that this little article of yours in no way supports what Mr. Gene Roddenbury had in mind for his vision.

What happened to "Open Mindedness" or "Creativness" Those of us who actually roleplay on this site are usually very reserved and NEVER go around badmouthing the other guy who is just trying to have a little fun. Unfortunately there are those who for some reason can't get past their single mindedness. "Oh you can't do that! It's not in the book!"

It just seems to me that there are still some who just can't see past the original. They think that "It's gotta be this way or else!" is it and there can be no other. If that is the case then we might all just as well start living under a communistic rule.

Here is another question for you. What about all of those novels that have been written that don't conform to your way of thinking that are all sold under the "Star Trek" label, yet have their very own, and unique, story lines? Are those not up to your standards as well?

We just wanted to create something that was a bit different than what other people have out there. We wanted to give people more of a choice and to give them the chance to show their writing talents.

Oh, and before I forget, The Audi can fire while cloaked, but it looses ALL power for just under 2 seconds. If you would have bothered to read the ENTIRE ship's specs you would have known this. She is NOT a "Super-ship" By any means.

Also, the Audi AI you mentioned was created by ME and was based on the "Doctor" from Voyager. Remember? He had a personality and doubled as a Command hologram as well as the ship's only Doctor. Any true Trek fan would have known this.

Thank you for your time and I too shall leave you alone.

Ric Blackhawk XO, USS Audacious

WikiPagan LocalSettings.php
I was wandering if it might be possible to get a change in our Local Settings, namely adding a namespace for pagan related news stories (News:). Could I do this myself, or should I request someone from Wikicities do it? -- Redge (Talk) 12:41, 23 Oct 2005 (UTC)


 * I'll add that now. There's a help page on this at Help:Custom namespaces. Angela (talk) 21:41, 23 Oct 2005 (UTC)


 * Thanx! -- Redge (Talk) 22:08, 23 Oct 2005 (UTC)

Indefinitely blocking uncaught proxies
Hi. Is it acceptable to ban proxies which SORBS missed, or would that be useless? 00:51, 25 Oct 2005 (UTC)


 * I would recommend blocking them. Angela (talk) 06:07, 25 Oct 2005 (UTC)

OABSA
Hi Angela, I started working on the wikicity page that you set up for me at http://www.wikicities.com/wiki/OABSA. Jellochuu returned it to its original state saying, "(revert to last version by Angela: this is not the appropriate wiki, please use http://oabsa.wikicities.com/)" and re-set it up there. I'm fine with that, but since you set it up, I wanted to know if this was alright?

- OA164


 * Yes, the wiki itself is at oabsa.wikicities.com. OABSA is just a short description about that wiki so people can see which wikis are available in a central location. Angela (talk) 11:01, 26 Oct 2005 (UTC)

lost request for a wiki
About a month ago I've made a request for a wiki called oneliners; it has not been accepted yet, nor it can be seen in the List of rejected wikicities: should I fill again the request form?

I've also begun a couple of articles on the scratchpad ( http://scratchpad.wikicities.com/wiki/Oneliners:Home - in italian), to try the ideas I had about the structure, but i would prefer not to add too much content that needs to be moved if the wikicity is approved, unless necessary. Elena 15:34, 27 Oct 2005 (UTC)

Inserting special characters
Angela, Wikipedia has a great entry field for special characters underneath their edit windows, as seen here. Since my own Wiki has a fair number of special character entries (fr'ex, see Æon Society, Norça, Ημερεσ Πυροσ), I poked at trying to incorporate it myself.

However, it appears to use Javascript, or at least employs Javascript code located elsewhere. I may be missing something, but is there a way I can include Javascript code so I can implement this special character box? Thanks. --IanWatson 18:33, 28 Oct 2005 (UTC)


 * See 176. An extension needs to be install before this can work. Angela (talk) 18:22, 29 Oct 2005 (UTC)

DynamicPageList2
Could you please install DynamicPageList2 for Uncyclopedia?


 * As discussed on IRC, this wil need to wait until we're on MediaWiki 1.5. Angela (talk)

Adopt a Wiki
May I adopt the Archaeology wiki and become an admin? Thank you. --Lilio 08:34, 30 Oct 2005 (UTC)


 * replied at User talk:Lilio. Angela (talk) 19:17, 30 Oct 2005 (UTC)

Namespaces -- how to access?
Angela -- Thanks for offering and creating the new namespaces "Speculation" and "Meta" on the Dragaera wiki.

I'm curious how one finds the related page to a given mainspace page now. If I am reading page "X" and I want to read "Speculation:X" or "Meta:X", I can type this into the location bar, but I don't seem to have any handy links. Getting back to the main page is also problematic.

Perhaps a tab at the top of the page, or at least a link in the toolbox, for each new space, would make this easier. Or maybe there's another way I haven't seen yet.

Can you fill me in on how this usually works please? Please reply to the main talk page here

Thanks so much,

Steve Rapaport Steve the Younger 18:05, 31 Oct 2005 (UTC)


 * replied at dragaera


 * Thanks, Angela! Nice hack, hope it's kept.

Sitenotice on words:
That's a fantastic idea (and a true time-saver). Thanks a million! --Merovingian 04:52, 2 Nov 2005 (UTC)

#wikipedia-hr
Would you be so kind and add to the list of allowed channels on CGI::IRC #wikipedia-hr channel? SpeedyGonsales 13:13, 2 Nov 2005 (UTC)


 * This is now at irc.wikicities.com/wp. Angela (talk) 16:53, 2 Nov 2005 (UTC)

What happened to http://www.wikicities.com/wiki/GameFAQs?
I was willing to take over but the wiki wouldn't let me.SGCommand


 * That wiki became gameinfo. Angela (talk) 16:53, 2 Nov 2005 (UTC)

Adopt Hitchhiker
I would like to adopt the hitchhikers wiki please. I am a long time DNA fan and would be very intrested in this thank you. http://hitchhikers.wikicities.com/ Ryan Boykin Email: ryancb06 at gmail dot com

Sports Log
That Jimbo block was a test, and I didnt mean anything by it. Can yo restore admin access for me there, because i have a few things I need to do wth t that require admin access--Sporthog 16:45, 5 Nov 2005 (UTC)

"SuperShadoh" on Star Wars Wikicity
The same vandal who dropped by the other day is back, under a slightly different username. Perhaps a range block is in order, as you suggested? Thanks, &mdash; Silly Dan  20:24, 5 Nov 2005 (UTC)