User talk:Sannse

Please add new messages to the bottom, thanks :) -- sannse (talk)

Funny Usernames
Those usernames are funny. The usernames are Admin and Public account. Those accounts are funny usernames and its funny when they get blocked if its a nonsense username.Ghostytreat 22:09, August 18, 2011 (UTC)


 * They are disabled -- sannse http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb32675/wikia/images/e/e9/WikiaStaff.png (help forum | blog) 17:37, August 23, 2011 (UTC)


 * What. They are suspended. Well that is offencive. Maybe i would think about re-opening them but how do i like re-open a suspended/deleted account?--Terrific joker 18:15, September 10, 2011 (UTC)


 * There is no reason to use those accounts, nor should they be used - you already have an account, and those two could confuse newer users as to whether or not they are what they imply.


 * Usually there shouldn't because that does confuse new users which who makes the things where they have to have it there so automatic objects can happend.--Terrific joker 06:02, September 11, 2011 (UTC)

Degrassi ban
Hi. Do you know when my ban is over on Degrassi wiki?Nisoja 22:11, August 22, 2011 (UTC)Nisoja


 * According to the block log, it was 1 day from 9pm EST. That should be over in roughly 3 hours from now. Rappy 22:28, August 22, 2011 (UTC)

Thank you for your assistance!
Thank you for helping out on BFF in regards to the trouble regarding the "Don't ask, Don't tell" rule, it was really appreciated, and while a good deal of us left that Wikia shortly afterwards we were all happy to see that even if the current Administration didn't much care for our opinions, the Wikia Staff still listened to us. This was a mayor relief and for this allow me to express a truthful "thank you very much" on behalf of myself and the other users!

Njalm 14:58, August 23, 2011 (UTC)


 * You are welcome :) Although I think the admins as a whole did listen, and made some sensible changes. I have a lot of respect for Ten Tailed Fox in particular... he's a good guy and a good admin. -- sannse http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb32675/wikia/images/e/e9/WikiaStaff.png (help forum | blog) 17:40, August 23, 2011 (UTC)

Can you please unban me?
loveya or someone unbanned the others?

Lilyisawesome 18:14, August 23, 2011 (UTC)


 * The ban expired -- sannse http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb32675/wikia/images/e/e9/WikiaStaff.png (help forum | blog) 01:31, August 30, 2011 (UTC)

Chat?
Sannse we need to talk about that user i emailed you about on some kind of chat, I am on the iCarly Wikia chat or another chat which would suit you better x SophieSakura  (talk) 17:43, August 24, 2011 (UTC)


 * We caught up on chat :) -- sannse http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb32675/wikia/images/e/e9/WikiaStaff.png (help forum | blog) 01:32, August 30, 2011 (UTC)

An issue
Hello Sannse (a fellow Englishperson I see?), I was wondering if I could ask you to take a look at a particular issue involving some admins on a wiki abusing their powers (repeatedly) on several users? If I've come to the right place I can give you the relevant information. --Cartman!Talk!
 * You really think this about something as juvenile as trolling despite the plethora of evidence that this was a one way abuse of power? It seems like the matter of abuse itself was completely ignored for the explanation of "trolling"? I'm not going to lie, I'm shocked at this complete dismissal despite the fact that the abuse is clearly the more apparent matter, and the insinuation that the Vault (and myself) was involved in some form of trolling match disgusts me as I actually take my admin responsibilities seriously and wouldn't degrade my character by intentionally breaking rules on other wikis. I have no idea if you'll at least reconsider and look at the evidence (if you even did) but my faith in the management of Wikia has been severely challenged. --Cartman!Talk!

More points, and I ask that they are considered

 * No wiki as large as Halo - with active admins and regular active contributors - could be adopted by someone who edited there for the first time yesterday and has a total of 11 edits. And that decision is not going to be changed by a group of people from another wiki, many of them with no edits on Halo, voting on that. I'm sorry, but the request was totally unrealistic. So given that, and given your undoubted experience of wikis and Wikia, I don't think it was unreasonable to assume that this was likely a joke on your part.


 * Yes, the Halo admin was being rude in chat. That's not something I condone, but we also give admins a lot of leeway in deciding how their community should be run. As I said in the text you quoted, we can and do step in in extreme cases - especially when there is a conflict of interest around a competitive wiki. But that doesn't mean we do in all cases, the ideal is always for a wiki's community to run themselves - even if they don't do that perfectly. If you want to change a wiki's community and become part of the administration, then I suggest you do so by becoming part of that community with valid edits and cooperative discussion - not by getting your friends to try and vote you in above existing admins. -- sannse http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb32675/wikia/images/e/e9/WikiaStaff.png (help forum | blog) 00:48, August 31, 2011 (UTC)
 * Like I have explained time and time again I don't particularly care about the adoption, it was just a lifeline for the wiki, an option in worst case scenario to prevent utter chaos, I don't even specifically like Halo, and the "active admins" at the time numbered three, with two involved. My main issue (and that of several users) is the misconduct. I realise that it's "ideal" for communities to run themselves, but when the admins can run around and do what they want without question including deleting complaints (with screenshots) about their behaviour, abusing existing powers, and going completely unchecked because there is no-one in the power structure of that community to turn to, only for the issue to end with them "openly mocking" the people involved because they are untouchable? I was actually advised by a staff member and another experienced user (who mentioned you specifically) to seek out someone in your area, and It's one admin who is the main issue here.


 * I don't know if you actually are his "friend" or not, but it appears as though you are past thinking the Vault users involved were just "trolling", and you now admit the rudeness in chat, so hopefully you can see that I haven't presented argument upon argument (with evidence) for my own health. Yes, ideally it would have been nice to see their community deal with the issue but the problem is any attempt to present the issue to their community was immediately deleted when noted by the users involved, and as those with the power are the few involved the only course of action possible was to request help from Wikia. Also, there was no vote. --Cartman!Talk!
 * I don't want to get in to further discussion on this... Halo is not eligible for adoption and the chat dispute is not one that currently needs staff intervention.
 * But just two clarifications: my only relationship with Spartan-118 is the one I have with all Wikia users, and I did not discuss this situation with him on IRC. I can't see the full context of his chat message, but my only comments on this have been on the adoptions page and here. -- sannse http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb32675/wikia/images/e/e9/WikiaStaff.png (help forum | blog) 23:54, August 31, 2011 (UTC)
 * And I remind you yet again that this isn't about adoption any more, and that there is more to it than chat.
 * Also, that isn't what the screenshot suggests. Fair enough you don't want to get into further discussion about it, but I do. I'd like you to put me in contact with someone either higher than you, or to allow me a second opinion from another staff member. --Cartman!Talk!
 * Also, "Yeah I talked to Sannse on the IRC" is pretty clear context.
 * Hi Cartman, I'm Sannse's boss and the VP of Community Support for Wikia. As Sannse has mentioned, the personal issues you're having with this admin are not what we consider needing staff intervention. As you've stated, you're not even interested in Halo, so we suggest you let this interaction go and simply move on. We do not interevene in matters of personal disagreements or one person simply disagreeing with the actions and policies of admins on a wiki. We consider this matter closed; should you have further concerns, please contact us at Special:Contact . Thanks. Jen Burton (help forum | blog) 16:42, September 1, 2011 (UTC)

Request
Hi! I am a bureaucrat at the Ben 10 Wiki and i am requesting that if you can you add in the bot right that bureaucrats can add at the Ben 10 Wiki. Like the one at Admin Tools wiki, and let admins add in rollback. The reason for this is that our non bureaucrat admins should be able to add in the simple rollback since they are trusted enough to do this, since they can also give the simple right chatmod. As for bot, it would be easier for users who are experienced with the abilities of a bot to use a bot at our wiki since they will not have a approved bot as i am the only one who has one, we have a few bot users. And also, i have asked the other existing bureaucrats as they have said yes as seen here, http://ben10.wikia.com/wiki/User_talk:TheBen10Mazter#RE:_Bureaucrat_rights. Thank you for your time. TheBen10Mazter (Talk -Blog -Contribs) 17:59, August 30, 2011 (UTC)


 * Wouldn't this request be better if it was sent into Special:Contact?


 * I use my dad's email and he does not like getting messages from Wikia. --TheBen10Mazter (Talk -Blog -Contribs) 18:18, August 30, 2011 (UTC)
 * I don't think this is needed TheBen10Mazter, please use the default settings for now. Thanks -- sannse http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb32675/wikia/images/e/e9/WikiaStaff.png (help forum | blog) 00:53, August 31, 2011 (UTC)


 * Please, we need this, it will help our wiki a lot. It is very annoying to get a bot approved as a Special:Contact message take 3 days to get a answer. Please. Thank you. TheBen10Mazter (Talk -Blog -Contribs) 00:54, August 31, 2011 (UTC)

default monobook skin

 * Hi,Sannse:
 * I like wikia,but I want to default monobook skin and cancle Read more(chinese is a 读更多),can you help me?--Msnhinet8 12:01, August 31, 2011 (UTC)
 * My wiki is:星際百科--Msnhinet8 12:01, August 31, 2011 (UTC)
 * Hi, I'm sorry, Wikia doesn't offer monobook as a default -- sannse http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb32675/wikia/images/e/e9/WikiaStaff.png (help forum | blog) 00:00, September 1, 2011 (UTC)


 * Ok,I Understand thank you.--Msnhinet8 02:44, September 1, 2011 (UTC)

Freenode cloaks
Hi Sannse (: No, this isn't a cloak request. (: I noticed this page section was severely outdated. I figure you're probably busy, but I'd be happy to check each nick on Freenode and move them to the completed requests section if it's okay with you. (: I know there might be a bit of a trust issue, so if not that, perhaps add a sentence that asks users to move themselves to the completed requests section after they get their cloak? — Urbancowgurl777 (talk) 07:35, September 1, 2011 (UTC)


 * Hi Urbancowgurl. You are welcome to move any completed requests down, I know I'm sometimes bad at remembering to do that as they get set :)


 * Overall, I think we are going to have to phase out IRC cloaks. I'm pretty much the only staff person who uses Freenode regularly, and that's for personal time rather than as part of Wikia's support. It's pretty rare that people can find someone to set a cloak (and Freenode's system is a bit awkward, and requires the GC, the requester, and a Freenode staffer to get together). So it's likely that I'll be removing that page soon :( -- sannse http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb32675/wikia/images/e/e9/WikiaStaff.png (help forum | blog) 20:02, September 1, 2011 (UTC)

Wiki-navigation Question
Hello again. As I was looking around on Wikia, I noticed that the Sims Wiki has five, um what do you call them, drop down link things on their Wiki-navigation bar. Now, what I remember about the skin transfer to Wikia/Oasis is that we were now limited to four. Did this change? And if so, then how many are we allowed now? Are we also allowed to have drop downs within those like with the Monaco Skin? What I mean is something like the Mass Effect Wiki's old Monaco Skin Sidebar. The things like Downloadable Content area. One last thing, are we still limited to seven links? If not, then now many? As always, thanks in advance. Lancer1289 13:30, September 1, 2011 (UTC)


 * Hi, there's a bug in the system that is allowing more links in the navigation than intended. The problem is that when the bug gets fixed, those with extra links are likely to have broken navigation. The code is under review at the moment, and it's possible that more menu items will be part of the feature after that. So I'd very much recommend holding on a bit longer rather than building something likely to break :) -- sannse http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb32675/wikia/images/e/e9/WikiaStaff.png (help forum | blog) 20:16, September 1, 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the answer. I guess I have to hold off on that redesign then. :(.
 * However since you said it is under review, please consider the amount of links and extend it because having just 28 is limiting. If I could offer a few suggestions, perhaps 7 drop down links and up to 9 links under them, 6 drop down links and up to 8 links under them, or any other combinations, but at the very least, extend the amount of drop down links. Lancer1289 21:24, September 2, 2011 (UTC)

Abuse of Adminship.
Help! I was banned for a whole day on the Kingdom Hearts Wiki! The admin said for sockpuppeting. But I dont understand the true meaning of sockpuppeting! I know it has something to do with using two accounts but I didnt use two at the same time! I used my second account for the Kingdom hearts wiki! And only for that wiki and Kingdom heart wikis alike. I wont use both my accounts at the same time! But I was stilled banned for a whole day on this account and banned FOREVER on my second I didnt even get a chance to defend myself! He didnt even link me to the article that talks about sockpuppeting to so that I would even know what it is. I really dont know what it is! So please help and link me to the true definintion! I really like going on that wiki and now I am banned from the live chat aswell! What do I do?! LSSJ4 18:14, September 2, 2011 (UTC)


 * I suspect this has been resolved by now (as it was only a short ban). Many wikis have strong rules about using more than one account. On wikis, it's important to have a good reputation, so that others know that you are a reliable person entering good information. If you use more than one account, it risks hiding actions that would add to to take away from that reputation. People want to know you are you - whether that's under a real name or a nick. And using more than one account is often seen as hiding you. It's best to talk this over with the admins concerned though - and a day isn't long to wait to do that -- sannse http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb32675/wikia/images/e/e9/WikiaStaff.png (help forum | blog) 19:22, September 7, 2011 (UTC)

Help, please.
I started a wiki - this time about a POPULAR subject - but need help launching it. Please can you help out? If you have the ability to make yourself an admin, you have my permission. You don't need my permission anyway. Please do. Thanks Chris! 00:41, September 3, 2011 (UTC). The guy who owns The Dot. You joined that one.


 * Staff generally do not have time to help on individual wikis. If you need help with your wiki, you can check the Admin Forum, or some of the help pages.

Regarding Chat Issue
Hi Sannse, thanks for your reply to my contact regarding the chat issue. I've ensured my browser is updated and javascript is on, is there a list of other thigns required for the chat anywhere? Thanks.  Helloher  (Death is not my phone number)  13:32, September 3, 2011 (UTC)


 * Hi Helloher. I don't know of anything else, but I've asked a collegue to see if they can find more info -- sannse http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb32675/wikia/images/e/e9/WikiaStaff.png (help forum | blog) 19:24, September 7, 2011 (UTC)

Can you check my IRC account
Can you check my account to make sure it has a primary nick. (for the IRC cloak). Thanks,


 * If you have registered with freenode, you have a primary nick. It's the one that shows when you type "/whois your_nick". Ask on #freenode if you need help with that -- sannse http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb32675/wikia/images/e/e9/WikiaStaff.png (help forum | blog) 19:26, September 7, 2011 (UTC)


 * Thanks. So are uyou still giving out cloaks?
 * At the moment, yes - if I happen to be on IRC. That isn't often though, so we might stop doing them soon - sorry --- sannse http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb32675/wikia/images/e/e9/WikiaStaff.png (help forum | blog) 23:26, September 12, 2011 (UTC)

Hey
Hey,

PM me in Chat or in IRC when you get the chance. 21:28, September 4, 2011 (UTC)
 * As soon as possible, please. 21:44, September 4, 2011 (UTC)
 * Sorry Adam, I can't guarantee I'll be in IRC at any particular time right now. And besides, I'm guessing this is to discuss a ban that resulted from you putting porn in the IRC channel. I'm not removing that at the moment. -- sannse http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb32675/wikia/images/e/e9/WikiaStaff.png (help forum | blog) 19:29, September 7, 2011 (UTC)

What?
What do you want? -- (anon)


 * World peace, the abolition of all reality TV, a kitten that needs absolutely no maintenance, and another cup of coffee. Oh, and a pony, obviously. -- sannse http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb32675/wikia/images/e/e9/WikiaStaff.png (help forum | blog) 19:35, September 7, 2011 (UTC)

Name Change
Hey Sannse, Hows it going. I was wondering If I could get my name changed, To ActorDude99. Please and thank you  I'm on the edge of glory and I'm hanging on a moment with you I'm on the edge with you! 


 * Please about this.--

Adoption
Hi Sannse! I left you a message previously, but I haven't got an answer yet. I love the Demonata Series and was disappointed to see that the whole wiki is a stub. I would like to become and Admin there and help contribute for my favorite series' sake. I am trustworthy, for that you could just visit beyblade.wikia.com, where I am an active and regular user. Thanks! Pinklilac 11:32, September 5, 2011 (UTC)


 * Hi Pinklilac :) You are looking for our adoptions page. Good luck! -- sannse http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb32675/wikia/images/e/e9/WikiaStaff.png (help forum | blog) 19:37, September 7, 2011 (UTC)

Block
User:SVG banned User:R2-47 and removed his rights on a wiki R2 founded! Can you remove SVG's rights from The Astromech Wiki?67.175.127.44 14:34, September 5, 2011 (UTC)
 * Please do not bring local issues here. Said user harassed SVG on the wiki, hence the block. 14:36, September 5, 2011 (UTC)
 * If you need to discuss this more (which doesn't sound likely) please use the contact form -- sannse http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb32675/wikia/images/e/e9/WikiaStaff.png (help forum | blog) 19:37, September 7, 2011 (UTC)

Stephen King Wiki Favicon
Hi, I am the admin at the Stephen King Wiki. I am trying to get a custom favicon for the wiki, but the file I've been uploading has not been working. It has the .ico extension and was created by a program to do so. I've uploaded it to the location, "Favicon.ico", but it is still displaying the default wikia favicon. I don't know what I am doing wrong because I have changed the favicon before on another wiki. If you could help me out, I would much appreciate it. --Rolliemoon
 * It normally takes about a day to update and appear on the browser--Acer4666 15:44, September 5, 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks. I did let it go for awhile. It must not have been long enough. --Rolliemoon


 * Clearing your cache may speed up the process. 21:55, September 5, 2011 (UTC)
 * Favicons are notoriously sticky. Browsers cache them in a different way to other images, so they have a nasty tendency to take ages to update. I see the updated one on your wikis, so if you don't, it's your browser clinging on to the old version -- sannse http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb32675/wikia/images/e/e9/WikiaStaff.png (help forum | blog) 19:39, September 7, 2011 (UTC)

Anno 1404 wiki
Hi this is user Thy emporer. there is a user on Anno 1404 wiki called Brumbek. I made a edit but he deleted it although what i was saying can be done i have done it.


 * This is something you need to talk to Brumbek about. I can't help I'm afraid -- sannse http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb32675/wikia/images/e/e9/WikiaStaff.png (help forum | blog) 23:35, September 12, 2011 (UTC)

Cars wiki revisited
One final thing, we had talked earlier about redirecting Cars Wiki to Autopedia. As the Cars Wiki is empty, and Autopedia is huge. ---Hockeyben 14:57, September 10, 2011 (UTC)


 * There are a couple of hundred pages there... some are duplicate topics, but I think there might be some that are useful. Maybe I could import them with a category added or something, and then you could move them or delete them? Or you could check through and recover what's useful before I redirect. What would work best for you? -- sannse http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb32675/wikia/images/e/e9/WikiaStaff.png (help forum | blog) 23:40, September 12, 2011 (UTC)


 * I have looked over the wiki, and I don't think that we need any of the pages over there. The duplicate pages are better quality on Autopedia, and the unique pages on Cars Wiki are of poor quality, and we would be better off just writing our own versions of them. So, I would say the wiki can be closed at any time, and redirected to Autopedia. ---Hockeyben 16:18, September 15, 2011 (UTC)
 * OK, and it's done :) -- sannse http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb32675/wikia/images/e/e9/WikiaStaff.png (help forum | blog) 00:47, September 16, 2011 (UTC)

How to get a custom signature?
Hi Sannse. I am Pinklilac. I have seen lots of users on various wikis with customised signatures, but I don't know how to get one. Could you please tell me how to? I'll really appreciate it! -Pinklilac 08:09, September 11, 2011 (UTC)


 * Hi, you do this by changing the signature in your preferences. If it's very fancy, you may need to use a template or something to get it right... it's best to ask others on the forum for advice on the specific code to use :) -- sannse http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb32675/wikia/images/e/e9/WikiaStaff.png (help forum | blog) 23:47, September 12, 2011 (UTC)

Regarding the Vault and Halo Nations
http://halo.wikia.com/wiki/User_talk:Ultra_Force#A_warning

We have recently seen vandals who have been repeatedly made new accounts on different IP addresses. Is there anything you can do about this?

We suspect this person http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/User:Trolly_polly, http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/User:Tezzla_cannon, http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/User:Ghosttro1, this person uses mulitple proxies to make new accounts and go around all the blocks we've given him/her.


 * Two of those links go to accounts that don't exist.


 * In general, the best way to deal with vandals and trolls is "revert, block, ignore". Even the type of responses on that talk page don't really help... best not to bother, just block and move on.


 * For switching IPs, it's a longer process, because you are just playing a waiting game. Keep blocking, ask staff any time you want a search on IPs, and keep getting back to building up the wiki each time you are done :) -- sannse http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb32675/wikia/images/e/e9/WikiaStaff.png (help forum | blog) 00:15, September 13, 2011 (UTC)


 * It is actually http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/User%3ATrolly_Polly and http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Special:Contributions/Tezzla_Cannon A known user, whos only intent is to troll. They come around every now and again to spam etc. Last one saw me having to delete 2.5k pages of spam in the Fallout answers Wikia. Is there a way to actually limit the amount of new pages a user can create? as the those 2.5k where done in a single hour. User:GhostAvatar 03:15, September 15, 2011 (UTC)
 * It might actually be possible to set something up (thanks for the idea Cook Me Plox!). I'll see what I can find out. It's also possible for staff and VSTF to delete a lot of pages quickly, so you can always let us know next time, and we'll help out :) -- sannse http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb32675/wikia/images/e/e9/WikiaStaff.png (help forum | blog) 00:43, September 16, 2011 (UTC)
 * OK, I've checked in with Grunny, who knows the way to do this... it's definitely possible. So what we need is the details of what wiki, what rate you feel would work for your situation, and to know that the wiki's admins/community are in agreement with the change - and we'll set it up.  Please use the contact form to let us know all that :) -- sannse http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb32675/wikia/images/e/e9/WikiaStaff.png  (help forum | blog)  16:13, September 16, 2011 (UTC)

Block
Con you block Jessie1010. She has sockpuppets, one in particular is FakeWiki. In My Babysitter's a Vampire Wiki, Shake It Up Wiki and more. All of this has happened minutes after KataraFan and Jessie1010 had a huge fight. And it was on KataraFan's page about "fucking cows" Please block her and her IP Adress off of every wiki. Thanks.

Special:Contact. --TheBen10Mazter (Talk -Blog -Contribs) 20:04, September 11, 2011 (UTC)


 * As Ben says, the contact form is best for this - with as many clear links as possible to explain the problems. Or talk to the admins on the wikis in question - that's the best way to resolve any dispute -- sannse http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb32675/wikia/images/e/e9/WikiaStaff.png (help forum | blog) 00:15, September 13, 2011 (UTC)

Vandalism on Charmed Legacy
Hi Sannse! Can you please permanently block User:96.35.11.159 from Charmedlegacy.wikia.com and also check if the user IP address matches any user from charmed.wikia.com? If the IP matches a user from Charmed wiki, can you please block that account as well from Charmed Legacy? The user has vandalized various pages on Charmed Legacy Wiki and I assume it is someone from Charmed Wiki. Can you please take a look at this link to see the kind of vandalism I am talking about - http://charmedlegacy.wikia.com/index.php?title=Shannen_Doherty&action=historysubmit&diff=13505&oldid=13489 Thanks! :)
 * Contact the VSTF. 13:43, September 12, 2011 (UTC)

I've looked in to this and given a brief ban to the person responsible. For future problems, please use the contact form. Thanks -- sannse http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb32675/wikia/images/e/e9/WikiaStaff.png (help forum | blog) 00:46, September 13, 2011 (UTC)

Misunderstanding
Charitwo already warned me last night about it. he gave me a warning and i took the pictures down. Can i be unbanned? Charitwo gave me my warning!

this world revolves around me! 21:30, September 12, 2011 (UTC)


 * 2KE, please see my other messages. The blogs were out of line, and the block stands (especially given the other drama). If you want to discuss this further, please use the contact form. -- sannse http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb32675/wikia/images/e/e9/WikiaStaff.png (help forum | blog) 00:47, September 13, 2011 (UTC)

Question from forum
Hi Sannse, thanks for your reply in the Forum:Wikia, I'm thoroughly disappointed topic. I had a specific question about your response though, and you mentioned that replying in the forum wasn't the best way to make sure you saw it: so I thought I'd post it here as well, as I just wanted clarification on what you were saying. Thanks,

"@Sannse: Many thanks for the reply. I have a question though: How do you define "priest-type" ads? My complaint was specifically the fact the the ad actively obscured content. I have not noticed any reduction in content-obscuring ads, (ie, the 50/50 ad at the bottom of LordTBT's screenshot here). Is that what you meant? Are there no more of those ads in the pipeline?"--Acer4666 09:58, September 14, 2011 (UTC)


 * Hi, I meant that a new forum post addressed to Wikia might not get noticed by us. It's not generally the best way to get in touch with staff :) But I'm watching that thread now, so replied there to keep it all together -- sannse http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb32675/wikia/images/e/e9/WikiaStaff.png (help forum | blog) 01:21, September 15, 2011 (UTC)

Unban Me i am Innocent!
Please Sannse why am i banned Why Why Why!!!!! i love wiki please unban ME!!!!!!!!! i don't know why i was banned did not do anything Wrong!!! Does you ban expire???!!!! Please i am going to cry! DarkFlameXD
 * You are not blocked. 14:08, September 14, 2011 (UTC)
 * TK: Messages on Sannse's talk page aren't necessarily about local blocks --  Random Time  14:27, September 14, 2011 (UTC)
 * I Googled the username to make sure and no blocks have been detected. However, when I visited DarkFlameXD's Central userpage, it did display the "Blocked" title in the masthead, which could have been mistaken for a block. The notice disappeared shortly afterwards. 14:31, September 14, 2011 (UTC)
 * Well when i log in it BLOCKED appears next to my name?
 * Yes, DarkFlameXD is blocked. Please contact us about this. I won't discuss it here. -- sannse http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb32675/wikia/images/e/e9/WikiaStaff.png (help forum | blog) 01:25, September 15, 2011 (UTC)

The Vault / Harassment & Bureaucrat Abuse
Hi, Sannse.

I am Luckmann; for reference, my real name is Varenus Luckmann - obviously not "The People"; that is just a joke from the Vault Chat - although I must say that I do appreciate the way it displays. Anyway, I have a problem and with no other recourse, I was recommended to contact you by someone that probably wants to stay anonymous. If this is not your table, I would appreciate if you could direct me toward the proper venue or correct course of action.

Instead of starting with the current problem, I'll start at what I consider the beginning, to give you an understanding of the situation. I will attempt to keep it brief - please do ask for clarifications if you have any questions.

Many months ago now, I started being regularly active at The Vault, the Fallout Wikia. For quite some time, this was all good and well - I had been intermittantly visiting it for much longer. In a blog/news post, however, I mentioned that I was a proponent of tribalist thought, for which I was asked to clarify if I was a "nazi" by one of the Administrators, Tagaziel. I honestly responded yes, I do in fact consider myself a national socialist - because it's true. This started a systematic abuse that continues even today, not based on my actions, but based on ad hominems and strawmen. Through my Talk page, I was badgered by Tagaziel with accusations; accusations which I confronted and answered calmy and patiently. I was accused of supporting genocide and murder - I explained that I did not. I was asked to define what I considered national socialism, repeatedly, which I, repeatedly, did. Frustrated, he ended up banning me for, as he called me, being a "nazi fuck".

However, I approached another Administrator, one GhostAvatar, on the topic of not having violated any rules. It was clear to him that I hadn't, so the ban was overturned. I was asked by Bureacrat Gothemasticator to remove the discussion with Tagaziel from my talk page and refrain from mentioning my affliation(s) in the future - something I did; not because I had broken any rules, but because it was a reasonable and understandable request on his part.

This of course did nothing to stem the tide of passive-aggressive abuse on Tagaziel's part, who, most recently mentioned in a chat I partook in that he hoped that the anarchists of Germany will have murdered all the nazis in the future. I continuously avoided taking these obvious baits, because I knew full well that he was an administrator and I am but a single user with an impopular ideology. So it was like pouring water on a goose, which I am sure frustrated him a great deal.

Recently, however, I believe that Gothemasticator have started acting as Tagaziel's proxy. As I am sure you are aware, ponies have been sweeping the internet for a while now, leaving nobody that is part of a community untouched. I had a form of "Pony OC" (original character; I am sure you are aware, but for the sake of the argument I must clarify) posted on my userpage with Race: Pony, aryan. Now, to understand the context (since the image of my pony was removed upon my ban) of that, I must clarify that this pony is obviously inspired by WW2 Germany - it was made upon request by another member, after which I made it into a sort of character.

In my mind, a word on it's own cannot present a context - and certainly not a racist context. Racism by it's very nature implies intent or an infusion of tangible value. Regardless, this made Gothemasticator blow a gasket and ban me for two weeks. I argued against it, because the word 'aryan' is in no way or form inherently racist, any more than the word "negro", "black", "berber", "turk", "caucasian" or any assortment of words can be considered inherently "racist". At this point it did not occur to me that Gothemasticator was a bureaucrat, so I again approached the administrator GhostAvatar who this time chose to support his direct superior - no surprise; had it occurred to me that Gothemasticator was a bureacrat, I would not have bothered, given the sycophant nature of most hierarchies - two men of equal rank couldn't agree on the weight of an egg if their life depended on it, but if the king says that a feather has the weight of the sun, it has to be true.

Tagaziel of course chose to strike when this opportune moment presented itself, again attacking me with ad hominems, strawmen and a sparse understanding of what he opposes (which appears to be -everything-). Gothemasticator chose to prevent me from defending myself further, lest he embaress himself further, and I was thus banned, for the first time, for a week (if memory serves - it may have been two; the point is that even if the ban was valid, this was my first offense since the last one was overturned). For daring to suggest that a imaginary fantasy original character pony was "aryan".

When I was prevented from defending myself on my talk page, I sent an e-mail to the head bureaucrat, Ausir. This, to no great surprise, went entirely unheeded and was ignored. At this point, I abandoned the whole issue (having no further recourse), waited out the ban and did not proceed to argue on my talk page (first because I was banned and later, when I came back from the ban, because I didn't want to stir up things anew).

I once again returned to socializing on the Wikia, mostly in the chat, casually editing when necessary and so on. Yesterday, I decided to revamp and edit my entire userpage again, add some music, a friends section and so on.

Come the banhammer of Gothmasticator again. This time, a permanent ban - that is to say, a full 1 year ban. The reason was, again, "racism". The reason, again, is completely bogus. Again, this is a bureaucrat, again, I have contacted the head bureaucrat (Ausir) but, again, I don't foresee getting a reply. The rationale behind this ban is threefold;

These, compound, according to Gothemasticator, is evidence of racism. He also attempts further strawmen and ad hominem justifications for this ban, saying "The guy is a known neo-nazi racist" - words that I would never use to describe myself to begin with. This accusation is entirely on his part, with no ability from my end to defend myself and if I do, his definition is the reigning one, because it doesn't matter what I argue - what matters is what his preconcieved notions of what attributes and values he associates with my supposed "nazism". This is the basis for his ban - a ban I have no way to truly challenge.
 * My avatar, which I added at the behest of my fellow vaultees, and was even cleaned up by an administrator of the vault for me. Apparently, ponies with hats are racist.
 * My labeling of the pony on my userpage as "Pony, purebreed". Purebreed in relation to ponies is, apparently, again, racist.
 * My usage of a userbox on my userpage featuring the "Glorious PC-Gaming Master Race"-meme of gaming fame, popularized by Yahtzee of The Escapist fame. Claiming the superiority of a gaming format in a comical fashion is, obviously, racist.

In my opinion, I have not broken any rules whatsoever. In fact, I have -never- broken -any- rules of Wikia nor of the Vault. Furthermore, I have received no prior warnings for any single supposed offense, prior or current. I am being singled out, not based on my conduct or because of my contributions (or lack thereof) but based on who I am as a person, my personal beliefs and the politics of which I am a proponent.

I have freely congregated with a wide array of people on the Vault, just like I congregate with a lot of people across the entire internet and have done so over my entire life. Sometimes there are conflicts, but more often than not, a mutual respect and understanding overrides the temper-tantrums of those that would play at being offended. I do not use Wikia as an engine of ideology or politics, but seek only to enjoy the same freedoms of Wikia that everyone else does, within the framework of the rules.

There are many things I personally do not appreciate in this world, but it does not mean that I go about acting like I am offended or try to shove my beliefs down other people's throats. If someone wants to discuss something with me, if they ask me, I reply honestly and truthfully. I do not shy away from a discussion as long as it remains amicable and mutual. In a sea of different opinions, why should I be singled out for constant abuse by those of higher standing based on the popularity (or impopularity) of my own principles?

My opinions or what opinions I espouse have nothing to do with anyhting, just like I do not harp on the virtues of eugenics I do not rail on about the evils of whatever dogma of the week. There is a sea of different opinions, beliefs or factual evidence that can be discussed and should be discussed, freely. I could not care less what color or orientation someone I meet on the internet has, unless they use our mutual social space as an engine of whatever agenda they have. In return, I believe that I should be met with the same courtesy.

In the end, I have made many friends on the Vault and I would hate to leave that community based on this. However, if nothing is done, I will not just remain banned, but I also doubt that I even want to return anymore, all things considered - it's just not worth the grief, no matter how much I actually care.

I do not know whether you can or will help me at all, but regardless, if you actually read this, I thank you already. Just writing this all down and giving voice to my thoughts was a massive tension-reliever.

Sincerely yours, http://imageshack.us/m/15/6929/luckmanngrenadesignatur.png Luckmann 19:38, September 14, 2011 (UTC)


 * I'm sorry, but this is a local matter, one for the Vault admins to decide. As admins and representatives of the wiki's community, they have the right to ban as they and the community feel appropriate. If you aren't able to work this out with them, then I would suggest looking for other wikis to contribute to. Sorry I can't help -- sannse http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb32675/wikia/images/e/e9/WikiaStaff.png (help forum | blog) 01:34, September 15, 2011 (UTC)


 * But the problem is that I haven't actually broken any rules whatsoever and the head Buearucrat, Ausir, is only intermittantly active and plain don't care. With no rules to back it up, there's no actual community support for the ban - it's plain abuse directed at a person, from 2-3 persons at the absolute top. When the abusers are Buearucrats, where does a user turn when abused? I was under the impression that such behaviour was against the rules of Wikia, not just the separate wikis. http://imageshack.us/m/15/6929/luckmanngrenadesignatur.png Luckmann 08:07, September 16, 2011 (UTC)
 * We give admins a lot of leaway in making their decisions. And yes, that sometimes means using their best judgement, outside of any written rules. And sometimes that means their judgement may be wrong. But we won't interfere except in extreme cases - and I'm afraid this isn't one of those. -- sannse http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb32675/wikia/images/e/e9/WikiaStaff.png (help forum | blog) 16:25, September 16, 2011 (UTC)
 * It appears that both parties violated the Terms of Use during this event. If the administrator(s) that were said to have been harassing Luckmann did engage him wtih such behavior, they disregarded point #1 of the ToU:

"You agree not to use the Service to [&hellip;] Harass members of the Service;"
 * However, as Luckmann had not removed the material from his userpage despite receiving multiple messages to do so, it can constitute a violation of point #3:

"You agree not to use the Service to: [&hellip;] Post, upload, transmit, share, or store content which is unlawful, defamatory, infringing, obscene, or invasive of another's right to privacy or publicity;"
 * Both parties involved in the blocking seem to have valid points. In the section "Racist bating", the resistance against removing the word "aryan" was the direct cause of the block. Luckmann, I suggest that in the future, please try and comply with such a request. Removing a word is a rather trivial matter and I personally do not see a reason to start a heated argument over it. If you think that I may have missed certain factors that could decisively influence the outcome, please let me know. Cheers, 17:11, September 16, 2011 (UTC)


 * Except that I did not "use the Service to: [&hellip;] Post, upload, transmit, share, or store content which is unlawful, defamatory, infringing, obscene, or invasive of another's right to privacy or publicity;" at all, nor was I asked to remove any such (or other) content at any point; I was just banned, despite not breaking any rules. If you review my talk page, you will notice that the only thing that was blocked due to arguing my point was my ability to edit my talk page, post-ban. And this was my first actual ban - the previous one by Tagaziel was overturned because, again, I did not break any rules.


 * My current, permanent ban (or, one-year ban, since that is all that is available to local members) was again entirely without warning. There is arguing back and forth between other members that I have been given multiple warnings and leeway - this is simply not true. For none of my bans (first ban, which was overturned, last ban due to the "aryan" in-character notation, present ban due to aforementioned listed reasons (or lack thereof)) have I received any prior warning.


 * Removing a word is indeed a trivial matter, but the presence of said words does not constitute a violation of the rules - but regardless of whether or not this is trivial, I was never asked or requested to remove it in a reasonable (or even unreasonable) manner. As with the first argument with Tagaziel, I am happy to comply with reasonable requests, such as removing the prior discussion with Tagaziel from my talk page (clearly marked as removed by request) and the agreement to not mentioning affiliations (which is not against the rules - I complied to avoid, well, situations like this and general drama).


 * I did not, as you say, receive "multiple messages to do so", nor was any content at any point unlawful, defamatory, infringing, obscene or invasive of another's right to privacy or publicity. It can be argued, although unreasonably so, that "aryan" could potentially constitute being obscene when taken out of it's context - but certainly not the reasons for my current ban (which, again, I listed earlier in bullet-form).


 * From my perspective, I cannot see how this cannot constitute abusive behavior.


 * I realize that this post may come across as slightly hostile, heated or haughty, reading back on it. I apologize, for it is not my intent. It is simply that the situation infuriates me somewhat and the sentences that bubble to the surface may be of the less desirable variety. http://imageshack.us/m/15/6929/luckmanngrenadesignatur.png Luckmann 17:48, September 17, 2011 (UTC)
 * Aryan according to Wikipedia: in colloquial English the word has been adopted in accordance with Nazi racial theory's appropriation of the term to describe persons corresponding to the "Nordic", "blond-haired, blue-eyed" physical ideal of Nazi Germany (the "master race" ideology) [n 1]
 * Nazism and race according to Wikipedia: At the bottom of this hierarchy were "parasitic" races (of non-"Aryan" origin) or "Untermenschen" ("sub-humans"), which were perceived to be dangerous to society. In Nazi literature, the term "under man" ('Untermensch') was applied to the Slavs, especially including Russians, Serbs (from South Slavic group), and ethnic Poles.[1] Nazi ideology viewed Slavs as a racially inferior group, who were fit for enslavement, or even extermination.[2] About 2 million non-Jewish ethnic Poles were killed by Nazi Germany.[3][4]
 * That there is why I find your comments offensive. You wear a very terrible view, and I hope you will one day become more tolerant of others, but I don't want to see hate like this at wikia at all. It is not about perspective, it is hate. Devilmanozzy  (Talk Page)  18:44, September 17, 2011 (UTC)

I believe that a statement from the "oppressor" is in order. I'm Tagaziel, one of the administrators of the Vault, and apparently I'm a horrible person. Joking aside, let me explain the rationale behind the decision to ban him (as I understand it). The first decision to ban him was not made lightly. It was for me, as a freedom-minded person, a conflict between the respecting the right of freedom of speech and thought and respect for the milions murdered by nazis and their supporters.

The tipping point came when I did a background check on Luckmann, in the form of a cursory examination of his DeviantArt account. While I understand that off-site matters shouldn't factor into administrative decisions, Luckmann's unmoderated behaviour there showed his views clearly and has convinced me that allowing him to remain on the Vault was not in its best interest:


 * Deep seated racism evident by referring to people of a dark complexion as, quote, "shitskins", unquote.
 * Declared Holocaust denier, as per this and this example.
 * Promotion of nazism and related ideologies, or at least preparation and publication of promotional materials of this nature on his dA account. This says all, pretty much.

These factors combined have convinced me that Luckmann's removal from the Vault is in its best interest. While other administrators contested my decision, ultimately it was upheld and Luckmann was again removed from the Vault's community following him persistently inserting various clues related to him being a nazi: defining his character as aryan, using an MLP avatar wearing a Third Reich peaked cap and similiar. All of this was done despite him being repeatedly asked to keep his political ideology off the Vault.

I fully support the decision of my fellow admin. While my reply is not as well worded as Luckmann's appeal, I ask you to understand the decision to keep a declared nazi and his claims that Alfred Rosenberg (head racial theorist of the NSDAP) is an example of non-hostile nazism as far away from the Vault as possible. Regards. http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/fallout/images/0/08/Personal_Sig_Image.gif Tagaziel (call!) 20:56, September 17, 2011 (UTC)


 * I don't really think it is fair to have this argument here. Just because Sannse is part of the wikia staff, it does not mean that she can or will help. She has said this to you, so I would strongly suggest setting up a forum if that is possible here at community central. User:GuardianOfTheWastesUser talk:GuardianOfTheWastes


 * Luckmann, just a few facts for you.


 * 1) 1 year is not the max a local admin can apply, they can give perma-bans.
 * 2) You have indeed violated local policy, under the common rules of decency within the user conduct section of The Vaults policies (specifically pertaining to user pages) w:c:fallout:The Vault:User conduct guideline. Regardless of how you view it, terms such as 'Aryan' full under common decency and found offensive by many. This also includes later phrases that are carefully worded for plausible deniability, such as 'Master Race' and 'Pure breed'.
 * 3) I overturned your original ban for various reasons, one being that you was drawn into the argument. The following incidents where all provocated by yourself, with the inclusion of such terms as 'Aryan' etc., knowing the reaction it would cause in others.
 * 4) You was indeed told for the very first instances, by myself when I overturned your ban, not to demonstrate or include these ideological views on The Vault. This was later reinforced by your second ban from another sysops. So, to plead ignorance as a defence in your actions is no excuse.
 * User:GhostAvatar

I need a cloak rename.
Hi Sannse!

I need my Wikia IRC cloak on the Freenode server to be changed, as my account name on the wikia was changed by my request. My wikia cloak was not changed, and is still based on my old account name.

[Warthog@wikia/XxXxGradiusheroxXxX] needs to become [~Warthog@wikia/Rhys Jones]

Can you change this for me please? Thanks

Rhys Jones 15:32, September 16, 2011 (UTC)


 * Freenode are likely to want to confirm that with you when I ask, so you'll need to catch me on IRC. I'm usually on there evenings (San Francisco time) but may not be in any public channels.  If you set my name on stalk, you should be able to find me. -- sannse http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb32675/wikia/images/e/e9/WikiaStaff.png  (help forum | blog)  16:28, September 16, 2011 (UTC)

Re:Welcome
Thank you, but I mostly edit underdeveloped wikis. This wiki seems fine on its own...Well, thanks again, and I might come around now and then!Youdead00 04:33, September 17, 2011 (UTC)

Problem with logging in to uncyclopedia
Hello, I have a problem with logging in to uncyclopedia, when I want to long with this user name it says "There is no user by the name "Mjbmr"" and when I want to create account with this username it says "The name "Mjbmr" is too similar to the existing account: Mjbmr Please choose another name", now what do I do? please help me, Thank you. Mjbmr 10:48, September 17, 2011 (UTC)


 * Uncyc has a different user server. Any account on wikia is not automatically registered on Uncyc. In addition, they have a filter so that wikia usernames cannot be registered there. If you want to use your wikia user name there, make an account and ask Sannse there if she can rename it to your name here. That is what I did.--