User talk:Jax-Kenobi

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Wikia new skin
Our opinions on things are often the same more than you may realize. :)

Reading the reaction of wikia, if I petitioned other wikias I strongly fear I would get banned. I have written how this new skin can be stopped, but I value my wikia membership too much to risk getting banned by pursuing this further.

Anno1404 17:16, September 17, 2010 (UTC)
 * RE: But they can't ban someone for trying to organize a protest. It's abusing admin powers. That's like shooting everyone at a peaceful protest, because you don't like what they're saying about you.
 * Ever edited wikipedia? I did for 5 years. Admins find excuses to ban rebellious editors all the time. There is no equality on wikipedia, in fact wikipedia admins admit as much repeatedly. That is the way it is in all groups. I am positive things are the same here too.
 * I wrote in the forum what can be done, in my last forum message the only way the wikia staff would reconsider.
 * I really don't wanna just sit by and do nothing
 * Deadrising is not a big and influential wikia. You and deadrising wikia have little power. So to change things, you have to be persuasive and influence other wikias. You seem like a decent guy, but I don't think you have the charisma to pull this off. I know I don't. Most people don't. Of the thousands of editors I have met on wikipedia over the years, I only have met maybe three editors who could pull this off, and even for them it would be almost impossible.
 * How are we any different and special than the editors who viciously opposed the Monaco skin? Monaco had much more populat opposition than this new skin.
 * I guess it's your choice to not participate. I'd just appreciate some help.
 * I have participated, I have done everything I can do, without risking my membership on wikia.
 * Imagine if I were to go to the top 10 largest wikias and publicly ask them to not support this new skin with influential arguments.
 * What most probably would happen would these wikias would not want to push for change against the wikia.
 * If some of these wikias did say they wanted change, and seriously threatened to leave wikia, who would the wikia staff blame? Not their shitty skin.
 * In both cases, I would be seen as a troublemaker, and I would get banned. They would find a reason to ban me.
 * You can usually measure your effectiveness by the amount of push back.
 * Our comments are not very influential in the grand scheme of things and are not a big threat to this skin. How do I know this? Because the wikia staff are ignoring them. If we were a real threat to their plans, they would have responded. If we pursue this further, they WILL push back. Anno1404 18:42, September 17, 2010 (UTC)
 * RE:Dammit... You're right. But this isn't Wikipedia.
 * Every society has a way to silence dissenters, and they always frame it as just, fair, and within the rules.
 * The US itself, like all societies, has a rich and shameful history of this too. Take the "Shouting fire in a crowded theater" supreme court case as one of a plethora of examples.
 * Anno1404 18:50, September 17, 2010 (UTC)