User blog comment:Susanolivia/Experience the new Wikia/@comment-13301-20100927184331/@comment-3100721-20100928021129

Uberfuzzy: "we've always said, you are allowed to remove/modify stuff for YOU, but not for all users on the wiki"

''O em gee! Wiki "X" modded teh skinz! They bruke yur terms of service. i want my [wiki] back.''

Seriously though, this is the first time I have heard of this that appears to be related to more than just the damned advertisements.

However, removing some of the modules that do not pertain to adverts should be allowed to be hidden, such as the Photos module and the Activity module. I know that some wikis have already hidden the Photo attributions since they were done in Monaco via Common.css and then transfered to Wikia.css. Somethings just don't work like that. It's a great way to alienate the editors. On other wikis, the "Pages I'm following" is hidden in Monaco and Wikia.css because it would take space on the userpage and/or didn't care to see it.

Now if the Terms of Service are changed to where nothing can be removed, you will eliminate many more wikis and I can almost guarantee that a far greater majority of editors will leave, even if there are a fantastically large amount of readers. They can find their information elsewhere (such is the fate of the RuneScape, DC, Marvel, and other Wikia wikis) to their competitors.

Quote from the RuneScape Wiki from Uberfuzzy in a letter to Azaz129 that I think relates to this matter:

As you and your wiki has shown in the past, a large stable community can exist and be fairly self sufficient at Wikia, with little need from staff/helper intervention. This is a dream of ours, to have more wikis run themselves, allowing us to focus our finite amount of time and resources on the sites that actually need it. Sadly, your wiki is an exception in many ways, not the norm.

As with the checkuser, we've shown that we're willing to try things out, to break away from the mentality of "how things were done in the past" to see how they fair in the ever evolving world of wikis, and to get some real world data on how a stable wiki will react if allowed more rights. You've been great test of our theoretical worries about granting checkuser where needed.

Done. You bureaucrats can now add and remove bot rights.

One thing We've always admired about your wiki is even though you have a way above average number of sysops, you have managed to keep the bureaucrat list small, showing that you understand what that roll is meant for, and not just another checkbox. We hope to continue to see good things come out of

runescape, and can continue to use it as a shining example of our dream.-Uberfuzzy

What happened along the way? 02:11, September 28, 2010 (UTC)