Admin Forum:Bureacrats and Admins

Are Bureacrats just admins with more power? Awesume 23:20, January 31, 2012 (UTC)

yes A.r.s.h. who you gana call "ghost busters'  ' 23:22, January 31, 2012 (UTC)

Thx Awesume 23:44, January 31, 2012 (UTC)

Bureaucrats have the ability to make normal users ranked. They can turn a normal wikia user into an admin, or a rollback. However, keep in mind that once a bureaucrat, always bureaucrat, unless somebody requests a Wikia Staff member to take away his/her priviledge. This should only be done when they abuse their powers.

Bureaucrats are also just editors. They have all the same powers as normal editors, and then some. Their powers shouldn't be used for evil, and shouldn't be used that often at all. Bureaucrats are often looked up to as leaders, or people who can be trusted throughout the wiki, and often times Wikia itself. Bureaucrats, also called 'crats, are often considered the organisers of a wiki. They see to when something needs to be done, that are beyond even the powers of an admin.

00:17, February 1, 2012 (UTC)
 * And they can lock down the Wiki entirely by protecting Special:AllPages. Don't forget that. Cat 00:24, February 1, 2012 (UTC)


 * Bureaucrats are not exactly admins- just users who the ability to give user rights such as admin and rollback. Most of the time, not always, 'crats are admins. Bureaucrats are users who are trusted by the wiki community. A 'crats' rights cannot be revoked unless done so by Wikia Staff. 'Crats are also editors, corrupt 'crats should be reported to Special:Contact. -- Plasma  ( Talk )  @Community Central   00:58, February 1, 2012 (UTC)

Bureaucrats really aren't much different than regular editors. They're to be viewed as a regular editor. Yes, they do have the ability to block other users, but that's only when needed. In addition to blocking, they can also add administrator rights to another user. But other than that, they really are not different from other users because they are just other users. –  Jä zz  i  00:59, February 1, 2012 (UTC)


 * To see the technical differences, you can visit Special:ListGroupRights. 19:07, February 3, 2012 (UTC)

Mathmagician ( talk ♥ blog ) 01:09, February 1, 2012 (UTC)
 * Bureaucrats aren't "supposed" to be different from other users. Sadly, this concept has been thrown out the window on the wiki I contribute to. And that's putting it mildly.
 * As 'a crat on two wikis, I try to maintain a semblence of stability. Certain users have to be trusted to take care of vandals and trolls. They have to be different; that's the whole point of user rights. Everyone's input is equal, but the admins and 'crats have to organise and lead. If you go to a more well-maintainted wiki such as Red Dead Wiki or Mass Effect Wiki, you will notice that without their input, it would all fall apart. I make a majority of edits on Brutal Legend Wiki, and a good decent chunk from Dante's Inferno Wiki, but I also rely on the other editors; it's always a community project. We can simply be trusted with the tools that help benefit everyone. It is something that has to be earned. When it comes down to promoting a user, I focus on quality and consistency over quantity. Sure their is an abuse of power sometimes, but if there were no admins and bureacrats, everyone would abuse the wiki in anyway they can.
 * --The Milkman | I always deliver. 05:46, February 3, 2012 (UTC)
 * Really? If there weren't admins and bureaucrats then everyone would abuse the wiki? There are literally hundreds of small Wikimedia Foundation projects without any admins - in fact, to have admins there needs to be a small community of editors present at the wiki. I can pretty well say that people don't abuse their right to edit just because of a lack of admins.
 * Ultimately, sysop/crat are just a group of tools for trusted users. They shouldn't indicate a position of "leadership" - leadership is what you get when a member of any community is active in participating in discussions, implementing consensus and helping others. You don't need a sysop flag for that. 19:18, February 3, 2012 (UTC)