Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-46091064-20200615220033/@comment-1807002-20200628031509

IP banning is up to the provider/Fandom and I think it is because Fandom themselves use it as a tool (VSTF). It won't simply be removed cause it's not fair to a household, etc. Life isn't fair, it's online and set rules to protect from spammers, abusers, etc. They always leave an appeal/ticket as an option.

Things to consider:
 * No such thing as a perfect world or perfect wiki admin.
 * Wikia/Fandom already have stated private wikis (aka block everyone from editing) is not and will not be allowed- so don't even try that approach.
 * There are guidelines for admins but it is not enforced without that wiki's majority/consensus or proof of abuse.
 * Fandom cannot police to that extent nor would they want to, to allow the sort of free form editing and admin accountability you are expecting. If anything they may even require admins to look out for themselves more now with the staff cut backs.
 * Manual of style is bringing order to chaos for a Wiki. If admins couldn't enforce it it would severely hurt many wikis. And as an admin who tries to clearly explain manual of style and article conformity, why it is beneficial and that I would be open to amendments if there is a consensus- some people just don't want to follow anything ever.
 * If they weren't Admins would you just be having editing wars? That is also hindering to a Wiki. And no offense if they were there first and contributed greatly even if they are borderline an abusive admin their removal may still hurt a wiki. And I say this cause one Admin I think was and still is abusive with power and I see get complaints throughout the years on CC, at least has been loyal and active on the wiki (for years!) they are on and have the support of a non abusive admin. I still think they should be removed at least from that position but I can understand if never removed.

Things to really consider:
 * What you are asking for when fandom is making layoffs and cut backs isn't going to happen anytime soon, unless already considered with the UCP change over. So you might not want to lean on Fandom to fix your inter-wiki problems with local admins in the form of revolutionary changes.
 * Opening a dialogue with the wikis in question that have you feeling passionate over these issues. Maybe this is displaced passion on the CC forums, you might be at odds with these admins atm and you might be more upset than you should let yourself be. Take a few days to really detail and reflect on these things (you already have quite a hefty start from what you have been saying so far). Then take away the emotion and taking it personal parts, and come forward to that wiki or those admins and suggest things you think that would be more beneficial and healthy for the wiki. If they or the wiki are not receptive at all or can't do what you are asking- maybe they can at least explain why they do what they do at this time. That can either give you closure or a reason to walk away or maybe they will be receptive and you guys can work together on the issues and make a happier wiki.