Thread:The Flatwoods Monster/@comment-4490782-20191207022239/@comment-24322797-20191207192028

haha, well, it’s hardly science related on my behalf of things. my major’s more about designing things to be more sustainable without investing too hard into the technical part, but i won’t bore you with too many details lol.

well, happy to hear that at any rate. i think i was awfully sour about some political opinions that i won’t call anyone out by name (partially bc i don’t have to) but if it helps, i don’t even remember your opinions on wallace vs washington so i have no bad blood lol.

i preemptively apologize that you decided to ask that.

a lot of the creepy warren stuff is sorta hidden in the game. the first red flag is that if you look outside the window at the beginning of episode 2, you can see him peeking outside through max’s window like seconds before the game has her getting changed. i’m struggling to find a gif of it right now but you can see a still here if you don’t mind squinting lol (https://66.media.tumblr.com/78256e41436cb1953ef8d2face4ff453/tumblr_nosgz3M5lp1tb05ooo1_400.png) the other, arguably worst thing he’s done is that when he asks max to the drive-in, he doesnt tell her that he’s ALREADY asked brooke to go with him (who has a huge crush on him for some reason. you can do better, brooke)

so if you agree, then he’ll text brooke and tell her he’s not going with her anymore. that combined with if you don’t agree to the drive-in (i didn’t) then he keeps constantly pestering max about it and making her feel bad for not agreeing….. even though he already invited brooke.

also, there’s writing found on a table that implies he’s dating alyssa, and when kate jumped off the roof and max slowed time, you can find him in the crowd hugging her. he’s also sixteen, and max is an adult. so that’s a bonus.

besides his actual character, i just don’t like what he represents. max says to dana and chloe that she doesnt like him, writes in her journal three times that she doesnt like him, has nightmares about him alongside people who have actively hurt her like frank, mr. jefferson and david (she just seems to be afraid of men though, which is understandable) and her primary fear of him is that he’s obsessed with her (in the nightmare sequence, you can find and open his locker to see it full of pictures of max cut out and pasted onto girls in bikinis)

warren was never meant to be a love interest, but they added in his kiss as ‘fan service’ bc dontnod thought people liked the character. that’s why you don’t have to work for warren’s kiss, you can get it no matter what. really, to me, besides being a manipulative creeper that max adamantly dislikes, he just represents an easy way out for the game to appeal to anyone who wants to pretend max and chloe aren’t gay.

that’s also why i don’t think they do lgbt representation much justice. max and chloe (and chloe and rachel) are never explicitly referred to as girlfriends, max never uses the term ‘gay’ or ‘lesbian’ to describe her or chloe, and when asked ‘why they made max gay’ by a homophobic fan, dontnod answered that max and chloe’s sexualities are up to interpretation. they take the middle road too hard to get some of the credit for being gay allies except leaving room for comfort for homophobes to deny the characters are gay. even in lis 2, after max literally destroyed a town to save chloe and then ran off to start a new life for her in new york, david says they’re ‘friends.’ you can chalk this up to david just being out of touch, but that’s the thing. you can also chalk it up to them not being together.

before the storm and the comics are so much gayer and that’s because dontnod didn’t write either of them. i don’t know how to get farewell (the bonus episode) since i got it as part of the preorder, i’m not sure if you can buy it separately now or not. there’s also a character in bts that literally is a reference to warren except he’s a creepy, abusive stalker villain

the biggest thing you might’ve heard of before is the ‘bury your gays’ trope. chloe dies in one ending and it’s the much more elaborate ending, while rachel dies no matter what and max can be played as if she’s straight. the only gay character that can’t die or can’t be written off as straight is steph, who’s just a side character in before the storm (again, not written by dontnod.) steph’s really, really cool though and i think you’ll like her

anyway. there’s that essay you didn’t know you were dreading. sorry for the word vomit lol