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 * Thanks --Cizagna (Talk) 14:02, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

api.php and query.php
Hi Cizagna. Our technical team have looked into these, and said they are up to date. Central isn't on 1.10 yet, so is a bit behind on these files too, but they will be updated with Mediawiki. So hopefully this means everything should be straight forward for AWB -- Sannse 12:44, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Great news, i will try in the following days to compile the latest version so i can start testing the bot capabilities across various wikis, i will have to bug you so you an add me to the list --Cizagna (Talk) 14:55, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Which list is it you need to be on? I'll do that now -- Sannse 15:07, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Oops the new check page is AutoWikiBrowser/CheckPage its open, needs to be protected, i added my self as a bot but i should be change to user later on --Cizagna (Talk) 15:20, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
 * I don't see who is that user EdBoy, you should check, there is some one at the Dev talk on AWB webpage, but dont know who he is or if he is the same person as their names are slightly different, "Foobot tha Great" is maxsem bot
 * Hi Cizagna. EdBoy didn't reply to my talk page message, so I've removed him from the list for now.  Thanks :) -- Sannse 07:57, 25 June 2007 (UTC)

Bug fix?
I thought I might learn something at http://travian.wikia.com/index.php?title=Template:Stub&diff=0&oldid=4629 - but what did you do? — Robin Patterson (Talk) 12:00, 14 February 2009 (UTC)
 * I will answer you in your talk page --Cizagna (Talk) 12:47, 14 February 2009 (UTC)

Re: Ayuda con el javascript
Lo he intentado, pero soy incapaz de hacer que funcione como debe en IE... El problema según como se mire no es de JavaScript, sino de CSS. Los elementos del formulario del edit_enhancements_toolbar están cada uno dentro de un &lt;li&gt;, y lo que has añadido comparte el espacio con el resumen de edición. Pero los &lt;li&gt; están definidos como float:left, por lo que no es posible insertar un salto de línea entre el select y el textbox. Para solucionarlo sería necesario insertar el select fuera del &lt;li&gt;. Entre semana estoy muy ocupado y no tengo tiempo, pero el fin de semana si lo necesitas te ayudaré a corregirlo. Saludos, --Ciencia Al Poder (talk) -WikiDex 20:33, 23 February 2009 (UTC)


 * Creo que ya he dado con ello:

function fillEditSummaries {	var label = document.getElementById("wpSummaryLabel"); if(label == null) return; var comboString = ""; comboString += " "; label.innerHTML += comboString; requestComboFill('stdSummaries', 'Template:Stdsummaries'); }


 * Es reemplazar la función con ese mismo nombre del Commons.js con esto. Creo que si lo pones en tu monaco.js y previsualizas ya verás los cambios. Dime si te parece bien o querías otra cosa --Ciencia Al Poder (talk) -WikiDex 17:03, 28 February 2009 (UTC)


 * No sé a qué error te refieres, pero el 'Template:Stdsummaries' indica de qué página hay que recoger las opciones, y tiene que ser exactamente esa página. No puede ser una redirección. Por otra parte, hay otros errores que encuentro, pero que no mencionaste en tu petición original. Por ejemplo, veo que en Firefox, al seleccionar una opción no se vuelca el contenido en el resumen. Eso es debido al New edit window, ya que han hecho algo bastante sucio: cambiar el "id" del resumen de wpSummary por wpSummaryEnhanced por JavaScript, y tu script no lo está contemplando. Curiosamente, parece que IE aun "recuerda" cual era el id antiguo y por eso no falla. Para solucionar este error de forma que funcione en Firefox e IE, habría que modificar la función onStdSummaryChange (que está debajo de la de antes) por:

function onStdSummaryChange {	var combo = document.getElementById("stdSummaries"); var value = combo.options[combo.selectedIndex].value; if(value != "") (document.getElementById("wpSummary")||document.getElementById("wpSummaryEnhanced")).value = value; }
 * Aparte de eso, no veo el sentido de que cargue la lista de opciones de una página, ya que no creo que se cambie a menudo y agrega una llamada extra al servidor cada vez que se edita. Estas opciones podrían estar metidas dentro del propio JavaScript que lo genera. Pero eso ya es decisión de su creador.
 * No se si era esto lo que querías. --Ciencia Al Poder (talk) -WikiDex 11:23, 7 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Pues veo que ya lo tienes todo :) En IE6 a veces pasa que el cambio en los botones de edición provoca que, al cargar la página, el resumen de edición cambie de tamaño alternativamente sin parar, moviendo continuamente los botones, aunque se para al hacer scroll. Aunque eso pasa y no solo con tu código, pero quizás la demora de carga que agregas al cargar la lista de opciones hace que pase más a menudo. No se si pasa en IE7. El IE no lo uso nada más que para hacer pruebas así que tampoco te puedo decir mucho. Para deshabilitar algunas funciones JavaScript puedes usar la opción que tú comentas. Aunque probablemente el usuario que vaya a cambiarlo será suficientemente experimentado como para buscar otras opciones, como sobrescribir la función con por ejemplo function onStdSummaryChange{};, pero no deja de ser otra opción. Saludos, --Ciencia Al Poder (talk) -WikiDex 21:56, 11 March 2009 (UTC)

Re: otros problemitas
Porque se carga esto en la página: YAHOO.util.Event.on(window, 'load',  function {	// change the id of summary box, so changing its size works in IE	jQuery('#wpSummary').attr('id', 'wpSummaryEnhanced');

EditEnhancementsPreview.onEvent; });
 * Inicialmente es wpSummary. --Ciencia Al Poder (talk) -WikiDex 19:18, 6 April 2009 (UTC)

Template
How we can edit a template?
 * clicking edit -- 03:10, 26 March 2009 (UTC)

ty, but it doesnt work
Ive tryed to upload, like u said, but it didnt work. Ive tryed to Browse a .jpeg image to replace a .png image that was there. It didnt work and it was written something like: extention somethin... can u help me please?

Thank you! :)

LOL i forgot to sign again XD --Manchot103 17:51, 28 March 2009 (UTC)
 * already answer you in your talk page at Guildopedia --

Dofus Build guides
i made a guide for a class and i wonder how i can get it put with the other builds? if you dont get it just give me a msg
 * I will answer you at dofus wiki --

sysoptest.wikia.com
No problem. At first I misunderstood you and give you sysop rights. Anyway, this also may be useful for you. And about the collapsible tables, I forgot about it. The code I use is. Some variables and css classes are in spanish, but if you want to use it as a model it should be OK. If there's something you don't understand just ask me. --Ciencia Al Poder (talk) -WikiDex 18:08, 2 April 2009 (UTC)

Re: Template:Administrator
Hey, Cizagna. No problem at all &mdash; thanks for letting me know. Cheers, Greyman ( Talk) &bull; ( Email) 14:41, 6 April 2009 (UTC)

RE: Why did you merge

 * Moved to Wikia_talk:AutoWikiBrowser/CheckPage

Wikia problem
i don't know if the problem is my computer or is the wiki, but could you explain me what is happening? because when i search any article here, it is inexistent. and, instead of yellow and green, now the site is white and blue. is this my problem or wiki's problem? thank you.
 * It's happened to everyone, we are being redirected to central wikia. AdventuresOfASquirrel 13:04, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

This is being discussed at Forum:Dofus wikia redirected to wikia central and Forum:Dofus Wiki. The problem probably occurred due to the MediaWiki 1.14 update and due to the Dofus wiki's unique URL address. --Michaeldsuarez (Talk) (Deeds) 13:33, 23 April 2009 (UTC)
 * I guess this means I'll avoid 1.14 on my wiki until I have the spare time to debug and fix a lot of problems. --Tildar 13:58, 23 April 2009 (UTC)
 * There isn't anything wrong with the MediaWiki software itself. Like I said, it probably has to do with Dofus' URL address (http://www.wikia.com/dofus/). --Michaeldsuarez (Talk) (Deeds) 14:01, 23 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Any way this is discuss in the forum --

Es.dofus
Hi. Could you please tell me where is the localization of the hood ebano?

Hola. Podrias ayudarme. Decirme donde estan las localizaciones de la madera ebano?
 * try looking at the Ebano page at the dofus wiki --

rubish from kentao
WALAWALAWALA
 * Spammer --

create guild page
Umm im new and wondering how to get my guild up on the website and how to get their logo up. My page has the info for my guil. plus we are mainly neutral with a single brak!--Sedna-osa 14:39, 27 May 2009 (UTC)
 * There is a create box at the main page for adding on the creation of a guild page, any way i will transfer later the proper name --

Last warning before blocking
Hey, Ciz. I'm not sure what this warning is about, but it appears Grey-Føx didn't agree with your edit to Toa Neutrak's userpage. The content seems ok, but you may have had other reasons for replacing it with the newuser template. -- 12:38, 28 May 2009 (UTC)


 * my answer to grey-fox
 * my complement answer to Charitwo

Question
Could you please explain this edit? --Posted by Pikamander2   (Talk)  at 20:22, 8 June 2009 (UTC)
 * I will at your talk page in your wiki --

Table Question
Thank you for help with my image template. It seems to be working well, but then I noticed something strange. If you fill in exactly 8 boxes, two extra boxes appear for no apparent reason. Just look at this and this. Is it fixable? --Posted by Pikamander2   (Talk)  at 15:22, 13 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Already fix it at your wiki, that was a misstype error by ose when he did your table --

Need a hand...
Heya Ciz, sorry for contacting you like this just I need a favour.

I was wondering if you could have a look over this (Sorry about the crappy link I still am terrible with these kind of things). A user made it but seems to be having some difficulties getting it to work, I'm no good with the coding stuff myself so I thought I'd ask you. Anyways TIA and sorry if I'm wasting your time. Galrauch 16:02, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
 * I need a little bit more of inside information. Like what is not working? and how does it need to work? --

Spacing problem
On this page, I want the tables to remain in the same spot they are in right now, but without the extra spacing in the first paragraph. Is it possible to do that? --Posted by Pikamander2   (Talk)  at 14:08, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Is that what you want? --
 * Actually, I want it to look like this. In other words, I want it to look like this, but with less space between the SSF and SSF2 paragraphs. --Posted by Pikamander2   (Talk)  at 16:22, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
 * I did some changes to the template and should be display soon, hope thats what you want --
 * Thank you. It looks perfect now. --Posted by Pikamander2   (Talk)  at 21:35, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

p2p
soo whot muss i do to be p2p
 * There are links inside the game before logging --

Thx for block my page :)
Really thx for it.. now im sure it will be safe. Now just want to ask u if its possible to set permission to users which can edit The Thing somehow by myself and add them anytime cos my friend was loged but cant edit. Its possible to set some like access right or list which i can edit? Thx for answer..

Metamorf
 * This is my "central" talk page if you read my "Guildopedia" talk page there are various users who request same/similar things and the same/similar answer is that he was unable to edit because he is not an autoconfirm user its an anti-spam safety build it to avoid casual desperate vandals, and i cant determinate specific users only groups and those groups are anyone, only 4 day old users plus sysops and only sysops --

Another template question
When using this template, only the image appears. See this page as an example. I assume that it has something to do with, but I'm not sure how to fix it. --Posted by Pikamander2   (Talk)  at 12:48, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
 * The problem was that you did not finish importing your template and you missed to change the variables on the #if calls that checks if the variable is empty or not--
 * Thank you. --Posted by Pikamander2   (Talk)  at 17:18, 7 July 2009 (UTC)

Ban complain
**** ** **** ******* ** ****** deja de bloqear mi cuenta ******* ** ****** ***** ** *** **** ** ** *****
 * "Hijo" se escribe con "H" y por los insultos se te bloqueo, y por los mismos insultos se te acaba de extender el bloqueo --

Bloqueo
Iba hacer un aporte a la wikia y dice que estoy bloquado por comportamiento inaceptable ¿Yo que hice?
 * Alguien vandalizo el wiki usando tu ip o tu rango de ip --

info box
hey when i try to put my info box up for my guild it doesn't come up can u help me or tell me what to do please. Thanks
 * Going --

Cosecha eterna
Seria bueno colocar en que parte se encentran los mounstros para capturarlos, ya que, esto ayudaria a resolver un poco mas facil esta mision, Gracias, yo los iva a ir colocando, pero no me deja editar la pagina de cosecha eterna.
 * Si seria bueno, aunque ponerlo en la pagina de la misión terminaría saturando la, el problema es que las paginas de los monstruos se encuentran incompletas y es donde va esa info. Y no puedes editar porque fue protegida debido a constantes vandalizaciones así que solo usuarios registrados con 4 días de antigüedad pueden editar la pagina --

Guia de Sram
brother solo te escribo para q coloques en la guia del sram de agilidad un lugar de leveo muy bueno, sirve desde que se obtiene el hechizo de estafa, es en la isla minotop es recomendable un srcolleo base de 25 y un dofus 30+ y la experiencia que me dan a mi es de 80000 hasta 140000 en 2 minutos maximo 5, es bueno para leveliar solo, y si es con algun compañero es preferible que sea tambien de buena agilidad ya que las serpiplumas se suelen escapar y pegar muy fuerte a 1 casilla de distancia
 * Hola, yo no soy el creador de la guia solo reviso que no sea vandalizada, estas invitado a agregar susodichas ideas tu mismo ya que yo no sabría como estructurar lo que me acabas de poner --

jasser
kiero registrarme en dofus
 * Para poder registrarte dale al enlace donde dice "registrar" --

bloqueo
-.- porque baneaste mi ip
 * El rango de tu ip fue baneado debido a creo una pagina con insultos las cuales ya fueron borrads --

Hi
Can you help with this : Forum:'style' is null or not an object, or refer me to someone who could ? Thanks. — TulipVorlax 01:25, September 8, 2009 (UTC)
 * sorry I have not manipulate jQuery so far, and im powerless to currently help you, you may try Dantman he is know more about jQuery or CienciAlPoder --

PVP anutrof
En el apartado pvp anutrof, el que hizo el texto (Bozcamblima) en este caso yo, me gustaria volver a cambiar la informacion que puse, para verificar que soy el autentico Bozcamblima puede contactarme desde dofus y enviarme un Mensaje privado, ya que ahora soy nivel mas alto y juego de un modo distinto.

salu2
 * La pagina esta protegida de vandalismos pero solo parcialmente puedes crear una cuenta (que por cierto es gratis y nisiquiera tienes que dar email el email es para el caso que se te olvide la contraseña) y despues de que tenga 4 a 5 dias de antiguedad podras editar paginas protegidas --

KND Wikia
Hi, I'm a member of Codename: Kids Next Door (http://knd.wikia.com/) wiki, and I'm not sure if you can help me at all, but I was going through the pictures and there's a bunch of inappropriate images. Can I report them or anything or can someone delete them? ): I'd appreciate any advice you can give. And please reply on my userpage. Fairly 04:26, October 6, 2009 (UTC)
 * Have you try to contact w:c:knd:User:Cornflower or w:c:knd:User:Numbuh 201 first? those are the ones with sysops (administrator) charges and would be able to help you, if the images are highly inppropiate like porn i can go and delete them intendedly if you point them to me, other way try to contact some one of the comteam they will be able to help you further with the w:c:knd if there is no active sysops --
 * Thanks, I didn't know there was someone other than Numbuh 201 as an admin on there. And also, it looks like neither of them have been there for several months. ): The images are, sadly, pornographic in nature and there's even pictures of drugs and an abortion. Do I just link you to them on here then? Fairly 05:02, October 6, 2009 (UTC)
 * Yes please --

I've got that one, but it appears someone came in and deleted the other pornographic ones. I'm pretty sure this picture has drugs in it, though, and that doesn't belong on a wiki that's about a kid-oriented show. I appreciate this, by the way. (: Fairly 19:20, October 6, 2009 (UTC)
 * Hi, I have deleted all the files (as they are not KND related) added by User:Moochie12 and block this user following uberfuzzy procedures happy editing --
 * Thank you so much!! Fairly 21:40, October 6, 2009 (UTC)

Sysop on Who's Your Favorite Character Wikia
Hey there isn't a sysop or Bureaucrat on this Wikia Who's your favorite character wikia, and I was wondering if I could become one to help that site and get it going. It's just me and another person so it needs some work.--*ns0n *+k!n 00:44, October 7, 2009 (UTC)
 * Im not a helper of the english team you should contact one of the comteam. Thought you have already contact angela you should wait for an answer from her and not spam various members of the comteam with the same request also you could use Special:Contact in that wiki so the active member in the comteam can answer you A.S.A.P., also as a note for requesting sysops you have to be participating on that wiki for a while. Happy editing -- 00:57, October 7, 2009 (UTC)

Interlinking
Hi

I had request a language link on [this page http://www.wikia.com/wiki/Wikia:Interwiki_requests], could you please link these wikis together. I had requested it two days ago or more. But evrytime men say that I has to request it on another page. Could you please look to it.

Thanks--Thijs95 15:14, October 14, 2009 (UTC)
 * Sort of done please review my comment on the interwiki request page --

me robaron
hola kiero ayuda me an roba y yo se kien fue el nombre del pj k me robo es mexikno
 * No somos Ankama trata de usar el foro oficial --

Re: Alternating color rows
Nope, (though something like that is completely trivial — about one or two lines using jQuery) personally I don't think something like that is something that should be done with js. Purely stylistic stuff shouldn't fail when someone has disabled js, and it shouldn't require the extra execution of a script to work (that induces a flash of unstyled content and slows down large pages). ~ NOTASTAFF Daniel Friesen (DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire) (talk) (tricks) (current topic) Nov 8, 2009 @ 08:32 (UTC)

ShowHide - backwards compatibility
Please read w:c:dev:Talk:ShowHide and try the Version 3 code that is described there. If this satisfies all your need for backwards compatibility (via a few tweaks in a site-wide CSS) then please let me know.

-- najevi 12:18, November 15, 2009 (UTC)

Disablign MediaWiki:Welcome
Sorry for bothering you about this, as I'm sure there's a Guide somewhere for it which I just can't find :/. Anyway I was wondering if you knew how to disable the MediaWiki:Welcome-enabled for unregistered users. TIA. Galrauch 17:18, December 7, 2009 (UTC)
 * MediaWiki:Welcome as in the Welcome bot? If so see User:Wikia -- 17:48, December 7, 2009 (UTC)
 * Ah thanks. Man I feel shortsighted now. xP Galrauch 16:39, December 8, 2009 (UTC)
 * Dont worry, I know alot, but I still make a heck of alot of mistakes and have alot questions. -- 17:01, December 8, 2009 (UTC)

Adoption
Thank you for the message, Quick question around how long does it take for the team to decide about a wiki adoption?

Thanks Uneak5 03:33, December 13, 2009 (UTC)
 * Weekends are a bit slower, all depends also how busy is the staff checking the quality of your contributions on the wiki you want to adopt and see your interest in the wiki. The best thing is keep working on the wiki as if you are interested on the wiki a couple of days would not matter --

Ikariam (English and Greek language) Wikis

 * Move to Interwiki requests

Can you help me?
The Adoption request just went through for the irregular webcomic wiki http://irregularwebcomic.wikia.com/wiki/Irregular_Webcomic_Wiki the owner returned after i emailed him and he got mad and banned me, is there anything you can do? thanks --Uneak5 22:31, December 16, 2009 (UTC) Hmm I just unbanned myself and banned him perhaps he cannot unban himself, but he is a buercrat so I dont know.... Bureaucrats can ban / un-ban people - I never banned another bureaucrat - so maybe they can't be banned (if you were able to un-ban yourself) by another bureaucrat (unless Wikia staff bans them) - 23:57, December 16, 2009 (UTC)

unfourtanately (fourtunate for me) they can unban themselves...--Uneak5 00:37, December 17, 2009 (UTC)
 * Bureaucrats from what i see can't ban/unban, those are the sysops. What bureaucrats does is give you the ability to give or remove sysop flag (they can ban/unban). About your issue talk with User:Sarah Manley she will be the one taking charge, thought I think she already answer you at the Adoption requests --

Special Contact
Me parece que hay un error, en la formula de idioma español. Al enviar una petición por Special ContactES. Andres   Qu'est-ce qui arrive  18:18, December 17, 2009 (UTC)
 * Puedes ser un poco mas especifico es muy ambiguo tu reporte, a que te refieres con formula? desde que wiki? que te apareció o sucedio? --


 * Simplemente fue en el texto de Special:Contact, en español tiene un pequeño error. Crei que alguien con acceso a editar MediaWiki, podria cambiarlo. Andres    Qu'est-ce qui arrive  16:05, December 18, 2009 (UTC)
 * Me puedes especificar aun mas cual es el error y como llegas a el, porque yo veo la pagina de special:contact y todo se ve bien --
 * Al parecer fue un error de tipeo, ya lo he solucionado. 19:40, December 18, 2009 (UTC)
 * Ok muchas gracias =) --


 * Algo mas. Hace mucho llevo usando la funcion enviar e-mail, y al pedir la copia del mensaje; nunca me ha llegado. Que sera? Andres    Qu'est-ce qui arrive  22:07, December 18, 2009 (UTC)
 * Revisa que tu correo electrónico en tus preferencias sea el correcto, porque siempre que uso esa función recibo mi copia. Si después de reteclear tu dirección de correo electrónico sigues teniendo problemas avísame --


 * No hay necesidad. O si no no recibiria los mensajes de los demas por esa funcion. Andres    Qu'est-ce qui arrive  23:12, December 18, 2009 (UTC)

MediaWiki:Community-corner/es‎
Puedes editar esta página. 01:47, January 6, 2010 (UTC)
 * Sip, si puedo --
 * A que bien. Un pregunta... porque los usuarios contestan sus mensajes en sus propias discusiones. 01:54, January 6, 2010 (UTC)
 * Múltiples motivos, uno de ellos es por orden. Otro es cuando se genera una conversación larga de varias respuestas entre 2 usuarios es incomodo tener que ir y leer dos paginas la mismo tiempo para leer toda la conversación. Otra razón es porque en situaciones como la mia prefiero que otros usuarios se beneficien leyendo de forma rápida y sencilla preguntas que tienden a ser duplicadas y por inexperiencia no revisan las paginas de discusión de los usuarios en las que se le contestaron. Otra yo que luego requiero coordinarme con varias personas eso implica que yo lea y esas personas lean de vez en cuando mi pagina de discusión me es y les es mas fácil saber si ellos han contestado o yo eh contestado la susodicha pregunta. Si pones atención casi todos los múltiples motivos revolotean alrededor de un concepto de orden --
 * A que bien. Algo más, el SUBST: de firma se puede usar en toda Wikia, o sólo aquí. 02:07, January 6, 2010 (UTC)
 * No entiendo bien tu pregunta, espero que sea algo asi: Si te refieres a tu plantilla de firma, lo mas probable es que solo funcione aqui en central wikia para que tu firma aparezca en otros wikis tendrás que agregar la plantilla en esos wikis, claro te aviso que hay wikis que no apoyan la firma de plantillas --

Nombre de un wiki
Al crear un wiki, se agrega al mainpage: wiki. Como lo quito. 23:26, January 14, 2010 (UTC)
 * En tu wiki tendrás que trasladar la pagina a un nombre sin la palabra wiki, luego editar la pagina Main page y ajustar la redireccion al nuevo nombre y finalmente MediaWiki:Mainpage con el nuevo nombre. Despues de que hayas hecho todo eso tendras ajustado el nombre. --
 * Ya hice eso, pero el no cambia, aún sigue el prefijo.  23:52, January 14, 2010 (UTC)
 * Posiblemente estará preguntando cómo remover totalmente el vocablo "wiki" que aparece por defecto en el espacio del proyecto. Es decir, por ejemplo, Wikia Wiki:Hola -> Wikia:Hola. 00:43, January 15, 2010 (UTC)
 * El no es el mainpage que me describiste arriba. El sitename esta regido por el nombre del proyecto asi que lo que tienes que hacer es desde tu wiki mandar un mensaje a través de la pagina de Special:Contact solicitando un cambio del nombre del proyecto de XXXXX a YYYYY. Aunque déjame avisarte que por lo general que wikia agrega la palabra wiki automáticamente porque le da mas distinción a tu wiki y permite que sea mas fácil de encontrar en los buscadores. --