Hub talk:Big wikis/Archive 1

Proteins Wiki
I don't think we should include Proteins Wiki on this page. The statistics say that Proteins has 47,000 pages, but that's not actually accurate. The pages are made in an unusual way -- each page is transcluded from a template, which is made up of a transcluded page for each section.For example, the page on At3g53460.2 transcludes At3g53460.2/Header as a separate page. It's all templates within templates within templates; I actually can't figure out how it works. It was clearly pulled from a technical database in a very complicated way.

So each article on a protein is made up of 13 separate sections. Each section is a transcluded page, which pulls from a template, which may pull from another transcluded page as far as I know. I can't tell how many of the 47,000 pages are actual pages, and how many are sections that are transcluded into a larger page. So it's not possible to compare Proteins to any of the other wikis. -- Danny (talk ) 17:35, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

Stars, but no stars
"Wikis with stars have 5000+ pages." - but my Cologne Blue shows no stars in the list. Robin Patterson 00:54, 5 April 2008 (UTC)
 * the stars are a modified image for the list item bullets, cologneblue seems to nullify list bullets completely. --Uberfuzzy 12:14, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

Number of pages or articles?
Are we going by number of pages or articles? - AMK152 (Talk • Contributions 23:57, 27 December 2007 (UTC)


 * Fair question, deserving an answer in respect of the list at the bottom; but the top 12 are clearly going by article numbers. Robin Patterson 00:54, 5 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Same question... Is there an answer? 19:26, 31 May 2008 (UTC)

Updating
How often are the Top 12 updated?--TwoTailedFox (My Talk Page) 00:36, 28 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Whenever you can be bothered. Robin Patterson 00:54, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

Wookieepedia
if a wiki is in the top section (top10?), does it get listed in the bottom list section too? some are, like eq2 and uncyc, but wookie isnt. --UberFuzzy 07:40, 15 September 2007 (UTC)


 * Yes they do, but Wookiepedia is actually listed down there. It's just listed as Star Wars. ~ NOTASTAFF Daniel Friesen (DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire) (talk) (tricks) (current topic) Sep 15, 2007 @ 07:54 (UTC)


 * Yeah -- on the hubs, wikis are usually listed under the topic, to make it easier for new readers to find the topics they're interested in. There's more about this on the Hubs FAQ, if you want to check it out. -- Danny (talk ) 11:55, 15 September 2007 (UTC)

Marvel and DC Databases
Hey folks,

I just wanted to leave a note indicating why I modified the article counts in the way I did for my two main wikis.

We have been reorganizing our article structure over the last few months whereby we are moving all our comics to the Comics: namespace. This is why you actually see our article count sinking, even though we are still adding lots of new content.

While we actually have a significant more 'good pages' than our statistics reflect on the surface, I have only added a modest amount to the totals, to roughly where they would be if we hadn't moved our comics pages. I have done this in good faith. I am sure if I actually bothered to count, the numbers would be larger still.

Please contact me if you have any concerns about what I have done, or if you would like a more accurate count.

Kind regards,

--Jamie 05:39, 29 April 2008 (UTC)


 * You can have the different-namespaced items included in Special:Statistics count, fyi. --Sky 07:23, 27 June 2008 (UTC)
 * yes, contact staff and have them add the custom namespaces to the "wgContentNamespaces", they will know what it means. --Uberfuzzy 06:50, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

Update
I think this page need an update, some wikis should to be in the list but they aren't, e.g. TibiaWiki has 6,500+ articles.

&lt;·&gt; Hunter of Dragoes &lt;·&gt; My Talk &lt;·&gt; My Contributions &lt;·&gt; 17:36, 25 July 2008 (UTC)

Recipes
The Recipes Wikia seams to have a lot of content. ~ NOTASTAFF Daniel Friesen (DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire) (talk) (tricks) (current topic) Sep 8, 2008 @ 21:16 (UTC)

Darthipedia
Issue: Darthipedia is included on the "Biggest Wikis", when it has less than 1,500 articles. The Wiki is included as a Joke amongst Star Wars fans, but the Wiki itself has given itself no merit for inclusion. It does not even meet the criteria for inclusion at the bottom, because it has less than 2,500 articles.

Personal Argument: Communities have worked hard for inclusion, and this sets a dangerous precedent; If Wikis should be included for Joke reasons, why not a fledgling Dragonball Z wiki with 56,000 articles, because of it's "over 9000", as the meme goes. I am not debating the inclusion of the Wiki itself - I am debating the lack of community heads-up, and lack of a reason, even embedded in the page, why it is included. A user editing the page will not see why it was included when it is in clear violation of the traditional terms of a Wiki's inclusion. I do nt see why a Wiki should added for Joke purposes, much less without community feedback or opportunity for debate.--TwoTailedFox (My Talk Page) 17:10, 19 October 2008 (UTC)

Motion to Approve Darthipedia for Inclusion


 * 1 VOTE Jax Pavan is legion. Supergeeky1 (The Cantina) (My Edits) 18:42, 19 October 2008 (UTC)
 * 1 VOTE I like the joke, it's original as well. Also legion. Hunterj | My talk 18:46, 19 October 2008 (UTC)
 * 1 VOTE Now that the name has been corrected... and the edit conflicts have finally stopped... I can say I fully support this joke. --Jedimca0(Do or Do Not, There is No Try) 18:50, 19 October 2008 (UTC)

Motion to Disapprove Darthipedia for Inclusion


 * 1 VOTE TwoTailedFox - See above for reason
 * 1 VOTE I don't even see how this is an issue. Rodtheanimegod4ever 17:26, 19 October 2008 (UTC)
 * 1 VOTE Trygon - I have to agree with Fox on this. I mean its a joke Wiki and it shouldn't even be apart of the real wikis that are taken seriously as far as listings/rankings go.
 * 1 VOTE Opinions lined out here. -- Deltaneos (talk) 17:37, 19 October 2008 (UTC)
 * 1 VOTE Darthpedia is a non-existent wiki and thus does not belong on this page. Supergeeky1 (The Cantina) (My Edits) 18:29, 19 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Corrected, my mistake.--TwoTailedFox (My Talk Page) 18:40, 19 October 2008 (UTC)

Comments
If Darthipedia isn't included on this list, we're gonna take our 582,799,140 articles and switch servers. That's 582,799,140 articles Wikia won't have. Supergeeky1 (The Cantina) (My Edits) 18:50, 19 October 2008 (UTC)
 * You mean ~1,500. Joke or not, manipulation of figures in unfair to every other Wikia on Wikia servers.--TwoTailedFox (My Talk Page) 18:51, 19 October 2008 (UTC)
 * **ahem** Supergeeky1 (The Cantina) (My Edits) 18:54, 19 October 2008 (UTC)
 * I don't see how one wiki would be too bad, and they would have that many if it wasn't for the technical downside, if anything it's fair this way as Darthipedia should really have 582,799,140 articles, they only don't for technical reasons. Hunterj | My talk 18:58, 19 October 2008 (UTC)


 * I had the good fortune to see that page before the database corrected itself. See |WikiStats. 1.4k pages under the article section, last updated on Oct 19th. Don't make me take a screenshot--TwoTailedFox (My Talk Page) 19:02, 19 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Ok, I won't. In fact I've done it for you. I guarantee this is unmodified, click on your own link if you want proof. (Browser is google chrome by the way). Image is uploaded here by me: Hunterj | My talk 19:16, 19 October 2008 (UTC)