User talk:Prometheuspan

Hello, I hope that I am following the intended protocol around here, but where to exactly talk to others is a little vague to me still.

Anyways, operating on the assumption that this is how to open a conversation...

I am the person who proposed "ThinkStarship".

I did it short, sweet, and simple, because that is what the window size screamed at me, and, because I assumed that the idea was sound enough to state simply and quickly, and that you folks are busy enough that you would appreciate that.

Let me walk through the Narrative of my experience a bit. I can't find the original proposal, but I will do my best to create it from memory;

-- Think Starship will have two main and distinctly different primary functions. The first will be to generate Textbooks on almost any given topic, And the Second will be to design and Implement A Space Colonization program with the goal of Colonizing most of our solar system within 50 years. ---

Allow me now to add a bit to that.

Think Starships First function, to generate a batch of Textbooks, may admittedly be served better in some senses in wiki Books, and overall, I'm not opposed to that, it almost makes sense. However, lets be clear about what I am saying here. This means a list of Textbooks covering at my latest list about 70 Primary Topics, and all of them inter correlated and inter-relative and interlinking. All of those Topics would be explored from the direction and perspective of pragmatic expediency to the topic at hand; Space Colonization. This is not the same, say for instance, as a Physics Textbook, because a standard Physics textbook does not have as its underlying Theme Space Colonization. Were I to start contributing to a Physics Textbook Effort already in progress, I would bet some people would rightly point out that I was putting in strange and obtuse digressions that seemed Extravagant and only vaguely relative. The Same thing applies for say, Sociology. This isn't a Textbook on the topic of Sociology, it’s a Textbook on the sociology of 4000 persons isolated from the rest of humanity- Permanently.

All of that may be somewhat moot, I am willing to admit that wikibooks may still be the place for those Textbooks, and I am comfortable with that as a final judgment, although I assume that Wiki Books would then have to make some effort to reasonably differentiate ThinkStarships' Texts from the Standard.

The second Function of ThinkStarship, (namely designing and implementing a 50 year colonization plan for most of our solar system) Does not even slightly or sort of fit into a futurists WikiCity for a variety of reasons.

The first is that ThinkStarship isn't Speculative, and its only real concern with "The Future" as such is the creation and management and implementation of its own plans.

The second is that ThinkStarship is a very large umbrella, an umbrella so large that it might eventually open up to contain within it Futurist Speculation, although at first for relevancies sake, Futurism is well outside of the purview of think Starship.

Futurist explorations and Think Starships Explorations are two completely different types of interests. One has one foot firmly in the realm of science fiction, speculation, and the realm of the hobbyist. The other is a much more serious, much more pragmatic, much more down to earth type of information, which will have to have very high standards of reality check operating inside of it. Both feet of ThinkStarship must be rooted in Science Fact, or at least, what we can reasonably assume will be Science fact in the very immediate Future. (There are some problems with Space Colonization which are yet to be resolved, the highest order of which are ecological. Given efforts like Wikis' own assorted other efforts, which I have taken a few days now to go look at, most of those problems are already well on their way to being solved if current Wiki trends continue. For instance, a very large database will need to be created, listing all of the organisms that will need to be included in order to have a stable and self sustaining ecosystem, and then all of the chemical inputs and outputs of all of those organisms will have to be charted and mapped. It’s a very simple problem solving process, its just that the database is so huge it hasn't been resolved yet.)

I'd like to list the Topics that do fall under the umbrella of ThinkStarship.

Computer Hardware Macro (Large Scale) Robotics Micro (insect Scale) Robotics NanoRobotics (Single Cell Scale) Robotics Chemistry Biochemistry Ecology Sciences Brain Anatomy Physiology Anatomy Ergonomics Plant Biology Animal Biology Human Biology Digestive Science Air Cycle Science Artificial Intelligence/ Computer Software Psychology Psychonautics Sociology Architecture Arcologies Electronics Photal+Optical Sciences Magnetic Science Quantum Mechanics Physics Thermodynamics Hydrodynamics Aerodynamics Solar Wind Sciences Aesthetics Navigation + Cartography Basic Mathematics Advanced Mathematics Algebra Calculus Simulation Mathematics Linguistics Syntax Personnel (Labor Management) Personal (Hygiene, ETC) Symbology Game Theory Think Tank Science Educational Science Law Ethics Government MacroProcess (Interco relation, Multidiscipline map)

That’s off the top of my head; there are more in my notes. Things that DO NOT fall under the Umbrella of ThinkStarship;

Science Fiction Speculation Religion Politics (Except where to point out where science falters due to political motivations, and to transcend glass boundaries of paradigms.) Sexual issues (Except in later development, under "Sociology" and "Personal" subheadings) Games (Except in later development to raise funds for the group by generating games based on our objectives, and in the case of game theory as it applies to Simulation.) Recreational pastimes and hobbies (Again, except in later development, under "Sociology" and "Recreation" and "Personnel" Sub headings.)

I hope that this clarifies where ThinkStarship is coming from, and what its needs are.

Since this is my "Write a detailed proposal" prequel, let me finish with selling the project. What I am offering "Wiki" is essentially a public NASA. The problems of Space colonization are sure to generate remarkable solutions for other problems...This is already the case for the current Space program.

Think Starship will have to undergo several dynamic growth stages, including a lot of financial evolution, and I do have several business plans cooked up to raise funds at that stage of the overall plan.

Obviously, in order to implement what is designed, mostly here on the Wiki, many other computer and software resources will need to be employed, and the Wiki adventure is a sort of infancy for the Think Starship Endeavor.

Thank you all very much for your time and energy in this matter,

Sincerely Prometheuspan aka John Bassist for ThinkStarship