User blog comment:BertH/Wikia's evolution continues with VisualEditor/@comment-5076341-20131029072731

I love using scource mode, and just by looking at the state of the Visual editor, I shudder to think what the scource mode editer will be like. As I said with the new forums, I hope it remains optional, or at least keep the classic editor going, as although I like the visual editor, I would prefer to use the old mode.

Also in line with my veiws on the forums, I think that although this will encourge new users to join, it will allow them to be lazy and reley more and more on the visual editor, until all knoledge of how to code in wikitext is lost, and all of our articles will be bland and rid of formatting (although by then I don't doubt that wikia will have implemented a way to put basic formatting in anyway, even if it isn't to good).

Despite how it may seem, I am not against people finding things useable and the pace of progress. I just think that for those of us who are experienced should be allowed to make articles better in our ways, and that people should be encoureged to do well and to learn the hard stuff. Goodness knows how people are going to make custom CSS and the



like without even knowing wikitext. If anybody is wondering why I don't just use Monobook, it is because I like Oasis (It's all i've known really) and Fluid. I don't even dislike the new visual Editor that much, it's just that scource mode is once again, an afterthought.

As for anyone who wants a new scource mode that will be pretty much a plain text editor, I have to agree. I will have some learning to do myself with a more scource-y editor, but I think it will be usefull.

I would be devestated if they got rid of scource editing, but that might be better than what I can imagine happening, an editor in wierd text full of buttons that it takes for expertise to get to it than use it. Another issue is that this may be more easy for begginers, but begginers don't stay begginers forever, and more complex feutures encouroges people to learn. That is why I dont think we should be disabling the scource mode.

Now, don't get me wrong here, I like the idea of a "low floor entry" but I think we also need a "high cieling" so that once people move on from the basics, they have somewhere to really thrive, and make the wiki a great place to be.

Of course, by then there will be a way to "insert text box" or whatever, until they have created a verion of word. CSS, JS, and Wikitext will always be the way forwards for those wikis that decide to put in complex formatting and cutting edge readibility. else, the world of wikis will be ruled by people who cannot even make a template without the buttons, and a true admin will become a glorius and mystical wise man..

Update: it was deliberate that I put the wiki-style forums in my picture :)