Thread:Rupert Giles/@comment-25505604-20141204013051/@comment-4783583-20141211191443

Tupka217 wrote:

Edward Nigma wrote:

Bramble.exe wrote: The staff are not listening to the community as a whole.

THEY PUT A GIANT F***ING NAVBAR WITHOUT OUR CONSENT. You do realise it's not there permanently, correct? Right now it's being tested. It is there (practically) permanently: they've already said we won't be getting the old one back.

As for consent, they don't need it.

As for the "community as a whole"... what is that? There are thousands and thousands of users, and the majority of those have elected to remain silent. Either they don't know, don't care, or like it. Even though many people are negative, they are a (very) small portion of all users. First the community as a whole is all the users of wikia who can be considered active. Most of these users of wikia are not admins, founders or bureacrats and they feel this stuff is better left up to the people in charge, they care about this a lot, they can be very vocal about changes like this on the wikia(s) they contribute too. They can even ask admins on their wiki what is going on and how they can change this and then when they hear it has something to do with wiki central (which might be the first time they hear about wiki central) they drop it, hoping their admin(s) will take care of it. Therefore almost all of the people on the blog and here on Rupert's page are admins, founders and bureacrats who comment and not regular users. Regular users care and don't like it there is only a small fringe part who does. Just like there is only a very small fringe part of admins, founders and bureacrats who like it. Most of them have spoken out against this bar in one way or another.

Also if it is here permanenetly, that is very bad thing.

Not to get to consent, Yes they don't need our consent regretfully this seems to be a military dictatorship at times which cannot communicate properly with one another. However they should have properly informed us of this beforehand, it would have been the right and polite way if doing things. Not doing so has made this dictatorship not only military but also indifferent and callous. i can remember the time wikia was still fun and not a corporatist dictatorship. If wikia truly wants to have a community based organisation as they claim they want to have they would inform admins of major changes like this beforehand and they would ask about their imput before implementing them. In short it would be democratic.