Thread:Ducksoup/@comment-18990811-20140519225642/@comment-18990811-20140519232109

Thank you, I appreciate that.

Contrary to what The Draziw states, the Universal Triumvirate maintains an active union on RuneScape. The Triumvirate Department of State DOES have a RuneScape account and even posted picture evidence of such, him continuing to refute that is nonsensical. It was inappropriate for him in the first place to even put us to that level of stringent and in-depth evaluation - no other user was subject to that even though dozens of other unions are on his list to be questioned for activity. The Draziw's actions to straight up delete the Triumvirate's pages (not to mention dozens of other pages that aren't us... all of which have important historical information, regardless of if they still exist) does violate RSCW policy as well (you can see their deletion policy). The Universal Triumvirate never attacked the RuneScape Clans Wiki, has never vandalized it, harassed it, or in any way distorted the truth on it. It has served since day one as a group, as a union, that cares deeply about the future of this wiki. The Draziw has been hostile to them for various reasons, and assumed that all members of one community are evil because a select few may have mistreated him personally. If nothing else, The Draziw should excuse himself from matters or decisions regarding the Universal Triumvirate on the RSCW, not simply block everything outright.

On to another point, regardless of how he feels about me or us, The Draziw's actions to delete a forum calling for his removal were inappropriate regardless of who started it, especially when it listed specific violations and had numerous signatures. I was for his removal, as was Andrew Hester, Lanclot Rice, Ehtya/Teeky (users with many edits on the wiki), etc. If The Draziw is so convinced that he is correct, why has he blocked everyone who disagreed with him and deleted a thread listing his multiple violations and calling for his removal from power? Blocking users for debates over content is against RSCW policy (it says that very clearly), and The Draziw had no reason to deny them access from their talk page or to ban them in general as nothing they did constituted harassment or flaming, they were merely speaking out against him and defending their union which was unjustly targeted. Thomas Armethol and Ehtya (who has another account with dozens of edits at "User:Teeky") aren't even citizens of the Triumvirate, they were merely speaking as to the inappropriate actions of The Draziw.

The Universal Triumvirate has clans and RS players (such as myself) under it, and meets every single definition to be a RS union. Even if it did not, which it does... you still cannot delete its pages or delete a forum calling for your own removal. The Draziw blocked many of those members almost immediately (Edward Stenbach, Clark McDearny, Ehtya, Thomas Armethol) after solely posts on his talk page criticizing your work and defending themselves and their community which you have attacked.

I understand that staff is frustrated with the situation, so am I... but it doesn't help us when we can't be heard or when The Draziw blocks us from having our voice heard or defending ourselves against his unreasonable criteria. Like I said, we gave photo evidence (something he's ignored entirely) that we were authentic; none of our users or even any of the people siding with us have taken to treating The Draziw in a hostile manner except with regards to people getting angry when he blocked them (seriously, look at the conversation he had with User:Thomas Armethol, someone who is not affiliated with the Triumvirate and just happened to agree with us, he blocked him after one edit).

However staff decides to go with this is fine, but I know for a fact (and I suspect you do too) that blocking every single member of one community and then blocking everyone who agrees with them (even if they aren't with that community) and then deleting all the pages of one community and removing years of valuable historical information from the wiki is probably not the answer. If The Draziw stays a sysop, so be it, though I'm sure the community would love to make its say if the original forum calling for his removal were restored, but he has undeniably violated the rules on the RSCW with regards to neutral point of view, ban policy, deletion policy, and forum policy, and he has lead to tension. I'm not saying I'm not at fault, I know I was somewhat rude or upset with him at points simply because, just as any person would be, I don't like it when someone ends an argument by simply blocking me and silencing my voice. I urge staff to act not out of making an example of the situation by blocking every single person (even The Draziw, does he deserve to no longer be bureaucrat... I argue probably as many others might, but he definitely doesn't deserve a block... probably no one involved actually does), but instead by fixing it by making a decision that can bring the community together and put in solid rules so that this doesn't happen again.

Thank you, and I really do appreciate you being willing to hear both sides.