User blog:MrYokaiAndWatch902/This is why I can't have good times on UCP.

'Pardon the misleading title, this is supposed to list me and other's problems. Post your two cents here if you have any.' I can't get used to UCP. Yes, I understand the situation; FANDOM has Gamepedia and they think they might collapse (but it can be surpassed), but remember; change has to be good (or at least, neutral). This is likely why everybody is saying "NOBODY ASKED FOR THE UCP!" despite asking for it, because it is a PAIN. Pardon myself if my language gets aggressive.

TL;DR: Change has to be beneficial. FANDOM is going to the UCP likely because of buying Gamepedia but that doesn't mean you should absolutely ruin stuff. Like, Classic Editor was fine and not as buggy as the new editor.

My (or other's, it's really shuffled) Problems
Note: Some problems aren't problems if you're familiar with MediaWiki or hotkeys, such as the image process which takes like too many steps to feel good. There's way too little additions, too much removals, it's really... not good, to be honest. Most of the removals makes this feel more like a downgrade; forced VisualEditor, Recent Changes even though Wiki Activity was way cleaner, getting rid of Soundcloud/Tabview/AjaxPolls, etc.
 * 1) They kill off Classic Editor, because from what I can tell, it is buggy according to them. However, the new editor is far more buggier. And laggier. One thing that makes the new editor bad is that Source Mode highlighting an entire page becomes an infuriatingly difficult thing to do because of the lag (unless your page is REAL small) and another thing is that vignettes/statics only activate when you publish your edits. It may not sound significant, but it might make something longer than it should be.
 * 2) *I could swear when I double-click to highlight an entire sentence (at least in source mode) you can't highlight anything else. Google Docs can do that, why not this editor?!
 * 3) *Unless you're a hotkey user, why is increase and decrease indentation on the same tab? It takes at least one click to indent a bullet point but here it takes twice the clicks, sometimes more if you're clumsy enough to miss.
 * 4) *You can't make AjaxPolls anymore. You go onto Discussions (I'll explore more later) and then you type your poll. You can only do six at a time... when in the previous polls, you can literally do WAY more than that.
 * 5) *Galleries no longer have the customization you can give them. Additionally, some galleries are even replaced with these. Luckily, it's easy to fix; you just remove a gallery, then you undo your edits. It also fixes all other broken galleries.
 * 6) *Thinking of tabviews? Nope, not a chance! It's dead.
 * 7) *No more Soundcloud support. Why? Thankfully, if your wiki relies on SoundCloud (like Subnautica if I remember), you can pick up SoundcloudPlayer at DevWiki (remember, this DOESN'T change how awful UCP is as a whole)
 * 8) *It seems weird to stop support for Classic Editor, classify it as buggy, and remove it. Seriously, if it's buggy, why don't you just fix it instead of dropping support?
 * 9) *Signatures get nowiki nuked when you try and add them onto pages other than user talks. Say what??? Unless that's MediaWiki, that is.
 * 10) *I need an explanation on the blank space on Page Preview. Why does it exist? Is this supposed to give you an insight about the rail modules?
 * 11) They kill off Wiki Activity and make Recent Changes the only way to see new edits. Wiki Activity helped many as it was for casual searching of coments and such, and before the migration pause everybody was angered at the loss of it. Also before the migration pause, Recent Changes can only find edits and not comments. Reason for Wiki Activity's death? It was supposed to be for at-a-glance stuff if I remember correctly. Then again... you've royally screwed up if it was a beloved feature.
 * 12) *Even then I've heard complaints about the division of wiki and social activity being tedious.
 * 13) Article Comments now run on the same engine Discussions run on. First off, it's entirely nowiki, so you can't strikethrough, and second off, when it comes to images, you have to upload them yourself. The nowiki is... well, intentional, since there wasn't sufficient usage . And they aren't changing that. Just because you updated something does not mean it qualifies for the 2.0 label.
 * 14) *It takes literally two clicks of a mouse just to bold or italicize something. Yeah, certain editors are like that two, but still.
 * 15) The bell replacing the mail is not good. As far as my mind I can read, once you click a message from mail that message is marked as read, but the bell? It's not marked unless you click mark all as read. That's probably a me problem, I don't know.
 * 16) *The bell also reminds you about upvotes to your posts. Just why? The forums didn't remind you every time you got a kudo. (Thanks Taeraredstar!)
 * 17) *It sometimes does duplication. You might see "(x) replied to (y)" multiple times, something which mail notifications didn't do. It's annoying for those not familiar with MediaWiki.
 * 18) *The "Mentions" thing gives me some kind of Twitter vibe. Fandom, I thought this was a wikifarm, not a Twitter clone.
 * 19) *You get reminders from replies. While it can be helpful, it can get annoying once in a while.
 * 20) Wikis that rely on Forums, Chat (which P.S. I rely on for feedback), and potentially even the aforementioned Galleries are crippled. If this was just made to promote Discord, you're kidding. Speaking of Forums/Discussions and Discord...
 * 21) Discussions is bad and clunky. Some of the problems can be applied to the new Article Comments.
 * 22) *You cannot customize your text that much. Like said, it is nuked with nowiki.
 * 23) *It depends on your patience, but if you want to find one single post you like, you're going to have to scroll miles down. Forget about patience, you're probably going to be really irritated by then unless you get lucky. Use Condensed view if you don't wanna scroll a mile down.
 * 24) *Clicking on one's username doesn't direct you to their profile. It instead shows you their discussions profile. Additionally, instead of something like "/f/u/MrYokaiAndWatch902", you get some random number. It could be excusable for Discussions Posts, but this?
 * 25) *It discourages editting. (Thanks Taeraredstar!)
 * 26) *When comparing to Forums, it's not THAT sloppy. Instead of it cascading and having to scroll down, you can jump from 1 to 3 or something. Even with the condensed view it can still be a pain as you scroll down, trying to find what you want...
 * 27) Discord has privacy issues. Basically, it's a rebuttal you can immediately throw if somebody says "Not everyone can use Wikia Chat". Yes, Wikia Chat also can have these, but to a much lesser extent.
 * 28) Why did they kill off the Following Tab? For those not familiar, that tab shows pages you have editted or commented on and is helpful if you have like 70+ userpages (which I do).
 * 29) What's up with the inability to disable Discussions? What if we don't want it?
 * 30) Too little things you can enable and disable, being: Europa Infobox, Logged-in Only, Message Walls, Comments, and Blogs. Nope! You can't disable Discussions at all even if you didn't want nor asked for it!
 * 31) *And apparently, I can only guess the Discussions is disabled because it's for traffic for your wiki.
 * 32) This is and might be a little nitpicky, but Fandom Shop isn't unique. Sure I guess this may be a pro for those who don't like ads being spammed in their face but I haven't really looked into it.
 * 33) Your profile mastheads look... too eh, and also needs to load. It lacks the customization the original profile mastheads had. Basically, they just reduce everything to Twitter, Facebook, Discord, Website, Bio, and Username. And boy it's quite... bland. Oh, and it just overflows if your Bio is literally like sentences long which should've been checked in the first place.

Well, that's all the problems I have. If you have any problems with UCP lemme know below aside from just screaming "Stop the UCP!" which I will not add. Oh and your theories.

P.S. we got Phase 2, but we don't know how that'll end up. It may just worsen UCP.

Other Problems People Experienced
The lag may be because of relying on JavaScript. I'm not sure. Also, once again, if you aren't experienced with normal MediaWiki, you're gonna have problems.
 * Taeraredstar
 * UCP Pages have a high chance of being laggier than their Legacy version. Can get irritating at times, such as message walls.
 * Recent Changes and Social Activity being seperate from each other makes moderation harder and it's a chore. Wiki Activity has both. According to them, it's complex... or is it??? Why can't we like, spend time trying to figure it out?
 * Discussions feels more like an attempt to pander and copy the streamlined functionality of more modern websites. Additionally, it's riddled with problems, though hey; it's above.
 * SW10048
 * The Search is now Global. Say, you type in Dexter and you get bombarded with other wikis. (I don't seem to be experiencing this one, I think they fixed it.)
 * Blubabluba9990
 * Mobile editting is nearly impossible; it can get scrunched up and shake every time. FANDOM stated that they were going to help mobile editors, yet ironically it's not. However, it was on a phone, so tablets might not have a problem.
 * Nathan Pirate
 * Pointed out and I didn't even realize this but even if FANDOM DID collapse, there are certain ways to get past the crash aside from just update MediaWiki. Also that some things are not outdated and are still widely used (BFDI Wiki Chat).
 * And let's get another pointer in: 2010 Editor returned? Forums and Chat removed due to being "outdated"? Wait, aren't the 2010 Editor, Forums, and Chat from 2010-2012, and considered outdated? HOLD UP!
 * There's no more user talk archive!
 * Bunch of more editor problems.
 * Sometimes, you can't insert capital letters in the editor instantly, so you'll have to MASH to get it.
 * Nothing happens if you press enter, clicking the space below text or any other just wipes it out.
 * Text displacements!
 * Sometimes you can't italicize text!
 * Sometimes you can't even click places to edit them and it can get erased!
 * NerdWithAKeyboard
 * Gallery videos either get distorted or enlarged.
 * Even with Recent Changes being able to sort through categories, it's still a difficult job. It could've been good if the development team just took more time. Rushing things will end in disaster.
 * Sometimes, apostrophes in messages just get replaced with a jumble of code.
 * It takes additional steps for images, and image adding. It's also pretty slow and laggy, there's descriptions that are mandatory, and unnecessary extra steps to even get a perfect image. Just for a quick overview:
 * In Legacy (Classic Editor)
 * If you haven't already, click "Add features and media"
 * Click Photo
 * Find or Upload; Upload takes an additional step on uploading an image
 * Click Add Photo. Done.
 * In UCP
 * Click Media, which should be more confusing than "Photo"
 * Find image
 * Use this Image, which shouldn't even be a step in the first place
 * Hit "Insert". Wait, why do we have General and Advanced now?
 * If you're just uploading it, there's more steps. You either drag 'n drop or get the photo you need (1 step), adhere to image policy (1 step, again shouldn't be depending on your POV), write up an unnecessary description (1 step), boom we're going to have to Use this Image.
 * In comparison, it takes like three to five steps in Legacy but a ridiculous four to seven steps.
 * SEVERINO1010
 * While this is not FANDOM's fault, some DevWiki codes don't work on UCP.
 * The editor (at least for mobile) also gets broken, with the bottom part of the editor butchering the page sometimes.
 * Trending Pages sometimes does not display the right image.
 * Sophia0306
 * UCP is not accessible for all users with strange buttons that you won't recognize in a moment's notice. It's not friendly for visually impaired people, let's just put.
 * TheFirstCasuality
 * Recent Changes is actually dumbed down in UCP with a clunky UI and the aforementioned divided activity, although that's really MediaWiki.
 * Also found out that RecentChanges can't be compatible with the changes you made. So yeah. If you decorate RecentChanges it's gonna die. I believe.
 * Shirkam03
 * Discord is hard and complex to learn and use.
 * WikipediaUserbox
 * Very unfriendly with Microsoft Edge, refusing to load in most things such as Comments.
 * PetStarPlanet (most are Mobile Source Editor problems)
 * Search bar and userpage link sometimes doesn't even appear.
 * Editors are basically now pop-ups, which is awkward.
 * The editor is not supported with mobile Chrome and the Classic Editor works perfectly fine, except when adding categories.
 * Text selection is extremely hard to do in Mobile two.
 * Automatically adds in two extra rows you can't remove.
 * When using a keyboard, you only have three lines of text you can see; the rest are obscured. Original Source Editor could show 17 lines.
 * Highlighting can no longer show bold and italic text, but you can't easily distinguish it.
 * Willowlupa
 * While minor, autocapitalize for comments and discussions can get annoying once in a while.

Theories

 * Mr. Yokai: UCP is  rushed.  As we all know, rushed things are forever bad, and even the supporters are suddenly seeing UCP as awful. And it wasn't even user-tested.
 * "Insufficient usage"? Bad reason. "Not used as we intended"? Bad reason. "Buggy"? Why can't you fix the bugs? One of the reason for the pause is for the whole outcry of Wiki Activity's death which caused them to get surprised, get Social Activity working, and such; even then it was in a seperate tab and they said it was complicated. And then I don't know if this is accurate, but I think they misinterpreted "Classic Editor" as "2010 Editor".
 * Heck, everybody at BFDI Wiki before the UCPification on Chat were scared!
 * Some part of me says that some of the axed features were because of them being customized and hard to implement.
 * Despite Legacy being said to have been broken but held together with a lot of stuff, UCP is just in development... which, uh, next time maybe roll it out when it's finished?
 * And despite stating that if the import doesn't go correctly, such as inaccurate transfers, they transferred Fantendo wiki. So? What did it result in? An inaccurate transfer with broken stuff. Same goes with DragonVale with the Dragon Counter and Youth Stone button now floating around in space (which I had to remind everybody at DragonVale about) on the Dragons page.
 * Abyssthenightwing11: As UCP rolls out, more people leave to go onto other wiki farms, new users will find users just barely hanging onto the website, clog the wiki, drive people out, repeat process. Also that FANDOM sees good stuff as bad and vice versa.