Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-25259359-20200322002815

I recently got blocked on Shin Megami Tensei by the Great Mara for the second time. The first time I was block was when I was editing the fact that most of the personas that appeared in P5 do indeed appear on P5R. There was also changes to the personas' arcana in P5R so I wanted to add that fact. I also wanted to type "/Royal" next to the "Persona 5" on the appearance list. At first I thought it was okay since it is true. When I realize that I didn't provide the link to the "Royal" page, I thought I made another mistake and decided to copy-paste the link. Rather than being told what the correct format is (which is Persona 5 Royal|Royal by Rex400 (great guy for educating me afterwards!)) I was outright told by the Great Mara to "Stop using the visual editor."

He did not explain what I did was wrong and what the correct format is so I can make corrections. Instead he blocked me immediately and undo everything. I was hoping to learn what the correct format is from that admin so I can make corrections while keeping the information true. When I was editing the Ann Takamaki page about her ethnicity, while she is confirmed to be quarter-American, I was not sure on the Japanese part so I deleted that part and hopefully when the admins see it, they might provide evidence and explain to me why the info is correct or not correct, but again I was told "Stop using the visual editor." I also realize the ethnicity category appeared twice on her box so I deleted hoping the admins realize the error and correct it since they are more experienced than I am. But instead I was told "Stop using the visual editor." Again, there was no explanation why.

When I edit wikis on pages, I often make minor edits like correcting grammar, add new, correct info where I can provide evidence, and shorten sentence so they are concise without changing the information. The admins on the other wikis have no problem with me editing, but if they do see my errors, they will actually tell me what or why it was wrong or they will make corrections themselves. If there is missing info, I would leave them an indicator so the more experience can edit them.

The second time I was block was when I stood up against the admin for saying these:

Me notifying an editor about an error:"There's a huge space between the P5 section and Royal section. Wish I can edit, but afraid I might get blocked again for adding accurate information (when there's proof), making concise sentences, correcting grammar, and learning mistakes when editing by He-Who-Must-Not-Be-Name. Thanks."

Admin: "Keep up the attitude and you definitely will be. If you don’t know enough about the site to even know what the source editor is, the problem lies with you. And you should probably find out before making over 70 edits after you were warned the first time."

Me: "I'll make sure to read them beforehand or ask for help. The next time I edit, I'll make sure not to touch the edit button so I can get blocked for making no edits. I'll leave it to the pros who can do a better job editing and explaining than I can. Even small grammar mistakes."

Admin: And you just earned a block. Don’t cop an attitude when you’re the one who left a trainwreck in their wake.

Hello!? Maybe if you explain why my edits are WRONG earlier, give me EVIDENCE, and how I can CORRECT my mistakes EARLIER maybe we won't add more fuel to the fire. I have no malicious intentions to ruin the wiki where the edits are REVERSIBLE. Btw, last time I check, wikis like the "Shin Megami Tensei" wiki are not professional sites where people actually get paid. It's not like the admins are going to pay Idk 2k to get it published as Science Journal on Google Scholar or as books. Petty mistakes and information on wikis are 100% editable to allow room for correction.

How is it that this admin has time to say "Stop using visual editor," undo my edits, argue with me, and even blocked me. But doesn't have the time to justify why my edits are wrong, inform me, provide evidence to justify his own edits, and even actually make updates to the wiki page himself!?

I'm addressing this to the admin and his attitude. Btw admin, if you're reading this, next time you lash out on newbs like me who make honest mistakes, at least educate them by writing on the message walls to learn their lessons instead of outright blocking them w/o giving an explanation. I hope you learn from your mistakes an admin and use a more reasonable approach to avoid repeating the same mistakes. More importantly, JUST CHILL. The wiki will not get deleted or have a virus whatsoever just b/c of minor mistakes that can be fix RIGHT AWAY. The next time I edit on that wiki (if I can) I'll make sure to always put an explanation, provide evidence, and ask the other, more experience editors and type "Correct me if I'm wrong."

The overall message is that: Atlus doesn't own the "Shin Megami Tensei" wiki. The admins are always human. We're all human and we are meant to make mistakes. No wiki is perfect and never will be.

(I can provide more evidence to show that I never had the same problem with the admins or other people on the other wikis) 