User talk:Dream Focus

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Odd
An IP address, never used in any edits on this wikia before or since, was used by someone to blank this page. No reason given. Just a random terrorists attack, or do I have an archenemy out there somewhere, plotting to destroy me, all comic book super villain like? What are there nefarious plans, and will our hero prevail? Of course he well. Whenever someone tries to destroy your dreams, you have only to remain focus, and you will survive no matter what. Dream Focus 03:23, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

Middle Earth
There are quite a few wikis for Middle Earth/LOTR under these two pages: Middle Earth, The Lord of the Rings.

The wiki listed on the Middle-Earth page is hbr.wikia.com, I don't know what "hbr" is suppose to be, but I don't think it's worth adopting.

I looked and the address middle-earth.wikia.com redirects to lotr.wikia.com (it has 3000 pages, you might want to check that one out).

The Middle-Earth page here on the central wiki should probably be redirected to one of these two pages: Middle Earth, The Lord of the Rings.


 * Hope that helps.--Sxerks 03:19, October 6, 2009 (UTC)


 * http://community.wikia.com/wiki/Middle_Earth has a link to the English wikia of http://middlearth.wikia.com/wiki/Middle_Earth_Wiki which only has one article.  D r e a m Focus  03:42, October 6, 2009 (UTC)


 * http://lotr.wikia.com/wiki/Main_Page seems quite complete. English readers should be redirected there.  D r e a m Focus  03:49, October 6, 2009 (UTC)


 * Hi, since you are interested in a Middle-earth wiki, I would like to make known to you a non-wikia wiki, http://tolkiengateway.net/. If you like it, I will be happy to see you there MoffRebusMy Talk 12:30, October 6, 2009 (UTC)

Infobox problems
The infobox issues you have posted about on Jimbo Wales page are due in part to the Manga wiki using a different infobox code to wikipedia (from a quick look at the links you posted & linked templates). The Manga wiki core infobox calls infobox/create (which does not exist) so you get a red link transcluding through to any template that calls template infobox within an infobox template that is based on a wikipedia version. It also appears to be tied up with another wikis infobox & refers to DPL which is an extension that wikipedia does not use within its infobox template to my knowledge. Other red link 'junk' you have on alot of pages comes from copying wikipedia pages and not cleaning up the list of interwiki links after import. The chances of further incomparability increases as both wikis revise templates other time. Some wikipedia infoboxes use the core infobox to simplify creating and updating them both for data and appearances were as some more obscure ones and a lot of wikia wiki ones are created from scratch & are alot harder to understand internally, with a greater risk of going wrong when users try to update them.

I agree that very common wikipedia templates should work on wikia wikis as wikia's default infobox template is the biggest problem for new users - especially if they have edited at wikipedia. Wikia did create a cut down version of wikipedias over complex Doc subpage template suite. Also some Wikia editors were trying to build a workable Navbox suite as they are a common template on wikipedia pages imported into wikia wikis. A lot can be imported but they need 'surgery' to remove extra none relevant templates or to adapt them to the wikis own application. When importing templates it is alo useful to dig through it history to check what has changed in it and against the template you are linking it to bach to the date the other was imported, as updates may have rendered them incompatible were as originally they worked together. - I hope these few pointers i leant from importing and trying to fix wikipedi templates is useful & helps you integrate some of the ones you require. - BulldozerD11 00:04, October 28, 2010 (UTC)
 * I imported every infobox template from Wikipedia, overwriting everything that might've been on Wikia before. Does Wikia have some sort of hard code template somewhere which gets loaded up instead?  If so, how do I disable it?  Also, is there a way to search through every article and find certain useless templates I want removed altogether, such as the various notability tags, the AFD tags, etc?   D r e a m Focus  05:07, October 28, 2010 (UTC)


 * The first wiki example you had linked when i went on the wikia infobox character and went to the linked base infobox template it called, it had a note about some other wikia and using DPL which is total different to wikipedias infobox (meta/core) template. I dident dig deeper into any other linked templates, as that page was showing a call to the infobox/create template within the code.


 * When i tried to fix some of my template problems (having given up for a period in fustration) i found some of the wikipedia ones had had major updates since i'd copied them originally, so check histories for changes as in some cases the problem can be a bad version at wikipedia not working with the (older) linked version on wikia.


 * To find wanted templates use the special page special:wantedtemplates and then what links here from each one you what to remove to find the pages and edit each page in turn (very tedious) It may be possible to get a script to do it but i did it manually. But i when importing pages just did a copy (in wikipedia edit mode) and pasted into wikia then went through them and modified them to suit my wiki as i added them initially, so I removed some unused mantenace tag templates and a lot of red links that were irrelevant as i add the template and on alot of pages added new navboxes or links in a standard format so that when eventually created it transcluded them automatically in the page to save going back to them, along with updating the categories. Be careful not to remove too much from links and categories as after a bit i found i was putting back stuff i had removed when the wiki got bigger to early pages. One of the tell-tale signs of imported pages on wikia wikis is that people do not clean the copies up of interwikis and wiki links etc. I generally ignored any template that appeared on less than 5 pages as there were hundreds of them & most are just used with doc page examples i found on checking were used.


 * take care within templates removing some of the sub templates as adding spaces/hidden line feeds can cause problems. I commented out some template like the Page Protection one (as a waste of space) and placed them after the Noinclude / includeonly tags on a new line - which effected some templates displaying and stacking. The tags surrounding the Documentation sub page system call must start immediately after the last } of the templates code with no extra spaces for example.


 * On central here there are 381 'wanted' templates ! but most are just missing user:sig templates or examples people have used in the forum with only 1 instance - BulldozerD11 19:38, October 28, 2010 (UTC)


 * Did you read my updated post? I already fixed the infobox one, mostly, by blocking this bot from the wiki which kept overwriting the Wikipedia version I imported with something else.  So infobox works now, perfectly, except for one thing written over the top of each infobox, Template:Safesubst:  Anyway to fix this?  Also, how do I automatically remove certain templates from articles that have them?  I can get a list of all the articles that use a template, but how do I automatically go through that list and remove them?   D r e a m Focus  00:28, October 29, 2010 (UTC)


 * No i have not seen your updated one I originally saw it when trying to see which blogs had been updated & notice a string of post to Jimbo's page. So had a scan down. (I'm currently on a strike/work to rule protest on my wiki because of the new skin, so not adding new pages to increase wikias page traffic, just maintaing it till some of the problems are fixed with the new Wikia look or i'll leave if I can find a suitable host to start a new wikisite with a revised format & better features than my current wiki based on some of the thinks i've learnt creating the current one, as no point creating a straight clone).


 * I've come across that safesub one before & cannot find a template for it on wikipedia or anything at mediawiki that made any sense. Other than it is to do with passing info through a couple of templates & using the Subst function within templates, but how to get it to actually add the correct title there i cant figure out yet. - BulldozerD11 01:26, October 29, 2010 (UTC)


 * I can erase everything inside a template I don't like, and nothing will load up in those articles. So that's a good way to get rid of that.  Clicking edit on the page still shows the template call listed there, so a way to clean that up would be nice.   D r e a m Focus  00:32, October 29, 2010 (UTC)


 * The notability template must be within one of the sections that builds up the infobox i think, as i have come across these sectional infoboxes on other gaming wikis but there construction is different to the sort of infobox i use. Digging through the other templates will eventually uncover it I think if you keep looking. Some of the gaming/entertainment wikis I looked at build infoboxes with lots of conditional code which is beyond me at the moment to fully understand & few people document anything or wish/try to explain it when asked about it I've found unfortunatly.


 * To remove a unused template from a number of pages should be possible with a script/bot programe as it is regularly done on wikipedia to update pages. I've never got round to setting up AWB and learning how to work it. Try asking one of the users on the forum or at the bot request page who answers the bot related questions, as if you can give them alist of pages to update they may do it for you. - BulldozerD11 (unsigned when posted originally)


 * Wikipedia has some info on the term/template function safesubst: at wikipedia:help:substitution I'm not going to attempt to explain it as it does not make 100% sense to me yet.
 * A sub template called by your character infobxo to check if variouse items are filed in / exist yet, uses the code within it, thus it is transcluding onto the article page from the sub template. - see Template:Ifexist (see note below) on your Manga wiki. I'm woundering if Wikias current version of Mediawiki has/understands this function. - BulldozerD11 17:10, October 29, 2010 (UTC)
 * There is no Template:Ifexist on the manga wiki. I have no idea what to do with it, so I'll just ignore it for now.  Or I'll ask at the talk page for that template over at the Wikipedia.  Maybe someone there can help, those who wrote it having it on their watch list perhaps.  At http://community.wikia.com/wiki/Forum:Importing_templates_from_Wikipedia,_some_don%27t_work_properly we discussed the other template that was causing major problems, no one able to figure out how to fix that one either.   D r e a m Focus  17:23, October 29, 2010 (UTC)


 * Sorry my typo/mistake (during switching pages to post here i've got mixed up) it should be template:Ifempty i was referring to above not Ifexist which is a function used within the templates. - BulldozerD11 18:10, October 30, 2010 (UTC)

what do you expect?
Regarding your pleas about the new skin. Come on dream, what do you expect? Jim Wales is the same leader who praises editors on wikipedia for deleting hundreds of articles and pushing for the deletion of thousands more.

Coming here was obviously a mistake, as there is the same terrible leadership as on wikipedia. Anno1404 20:51, November 7, 2010 (UTC)
 * The Wikias that are the most popular have moved elsewhere. http://community.wikia.com/wiki/Forum:Anti-Wikia_Alliance I thought the list was there somewhere.  It is odd.   D r e a m Focus  07:09, November 8, 2010 (UTC)

Summary Clearing
I saw your question in chat, and there is, in fact, a way to clear edit summaries. There is one small drawback. Go into the page's history, and click "cur" next to the revision just before the bad edit. Then when the comparison page comes up, click "edit" next to the earlier revision, then click publish. That will clear anything that happened after that edit. Hope this helps! :)

ShermanTheMythran