Thread:DarkDragonMedeus/@comment-38729545-20190727171638/@comment-38729545-20191212051648

From the new thread https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Thread:3807729?useskin=oasis

“Yeah I Know, I'm playing the cards right though, I even said such a subject is derailing the thread, it was a yes or no answer. I never even mentioned tier 1, don't put that on me. The point is if ZaStando wanted a message put through and through as long as it's reasonable it's all fine, no matter the stats there's no official rule stopping it, let's just move on from this it's getting more deeper than it needs to and it's derailing the thread.

and I agree, this has been a 2 month long thread, and we've proven our points and nothing debunks it and we've debated that through those 2 months.

it is although it's kind of a "ah s**t here we go again" scenario. let's just run through it already.“

There is where I have to disagree with this notion that the arguments against Tier 2B was debunked is completely and quite frankly subjective.

If the evidence is shown to proven the contrary ie. is supporting those who opposed the upgrade meant the reevaluation of all known evidence is required in such cases such as this.

Anyway, I have no ill will toward those Pro 2B supporters, but if they have continued this for over 2 months, then perhaps we should even respectfully drop the subject or at least take a break from it then pick it back up if any new evidence has been acquired.

Otherwise I even dread the thought of having to continue a subject such as upgrading the series’s cosmology and potentially the characters in question if they have stated or implied to do so.

Anyway here’s the arguments against Tier 2B:

1. No statements that will necessarily implying or outright mentioned  it will be 2B simply on sheer size alone.

2. I also admittedly mentioned there has to be something about space time shenanigans or even something similar. I do not have the impression of this for some reason.

3. Mirroring a world like ours could also meant they could mirror all physical matter of the universe assuming this is related to dreams. However, one might argue that dreams can be considered to involved space and time which in some cases could be potentially true assuming there is evidence that does imply or outright stated this of course.

4. I also beginning to think we should treat the whole “mirroring X world” to depend on the context if we already not doing that for some reason.

5. One sided interpretation is never a good thing and I do encourage people to at least acknowledge the other interpretation rather than just denouncing it almost singlehandedly as I literally see this happening as I typed out these words.

6. Also I getting the impression of at least “3A, possibly Low 2C” at the very least.