Template talk:Wikipedia

Shorter template name
One doesn't need it so lengthy. On LOTR we have lotr:Template:enWP, with much the same wording but a shorter template name - and actually more meaningful because it specifies the "en" WP. Robin Patterson 01:21, 2 Aug 2005 (UTC)


 * enWP seems a bit too jargon-y. At least people will more easily know what "wikipedia" means. Angela (talk)


 * Yes, Angela, it is a bit jargony. Jargon is a time-saving device, which is what this template is for. People "in the know" understand it and may welcome the timesaving of five characters per time. I've now used it on about six wikicities. Robin Patterson 12:03, 15 Oct 2005 (UTC)

Copying a template
I may be wrong but it seems we can't add an acknowledgment to a template. Or is that where the "noinclude" thing fits in??

Anyway, I've been acknowledging Wikipedia templates on the Talk pages. Doing it so often that I've devised a template for it, to save time. It works. I call it (the very jargony) "wptem". See it in action at http://engineering.wikicities.com/wiki/User:Robin_Patterson and copy it if you like.

Robin Patterson 12:03, 15 Oct 2005 (UTC)

Basic recommendation for copying
Material should be copied from Wikipedia wherever appropriate but must be acknowledged.

See above for an easy way to acknowledge it.

Value of copying
If the material is mostly just the sort of thing your wikicity would want, copying will save you a lot of time. It's much quicker to delete the bits you don't want and reword some of the rest, than it is to write it all out by yourself. Of special value may be the templates and other clever things that improve the display and usability; much thought went into most of them, and they can be used on other pages of your Wikicity once copied.

Having the article in your Wikicity is better than sending people off to read the Wikipedia article (and risk not being able to find their way back and/or not having internal links from it to other pages of your Wikicity).

Basic process

 * 1) Open the edit box of the Wikicity page that is to be created or enlarged. Copy the page title (unless you already have the Wikipedia article in another window).
 * 2) In a new window, go to Wikipedia and find the article (pasting the Wikicity article name into the search box). Open the Wikipedia edit box as if you were going to edit the article.
 * 3) Highlight the whole box (eg with [Ctrl] + A), then "copy" (eg [Ctrl] + C).
 * 4) Go back to the Wikicity page and paste; preview.
 * 5) Delete interwiki links (usually right at the bottom; form is like "Moteur" ) if any.
 * 6) (If the WP article was all your own work, there's no need to do this next thing.) Above the category listings, add the "enWP" template, with the exact name of the Wikipedia page (preferably pasted for accuracy) after the pipe.
 * 7) Preview again and save.

What happens next
Look for a broken link "Template:  " - that means the page uses a Wikipedia template which does not have a Wikicity version. Go and find the WP version (which is probably in a list near the bottom of the page if you still have the WP article edit box open) and copy it too. In that case, the "enWP" acknowledgment should go on the new template's talk page so as not to upset the working of the template.

Go through the article, removing anything you are sure will not interest readers of your Wikicity. If in doubt, leave in.

Check the categories; usually the Wikipedia categories will be useful on your Wikicity (probably already existing) but you can add others and delete some if you see a compelling reason. If in doubt, leave in.

Look at each internal link. They point to WP pages in the original but to existing or potential pages in the Wikicity.
 * 1) Create new articles from the links that deserve articles.
 * 2) Delete the square brackets of any link where you are quite sure no user of your Wikicity would want to follow that link either to a Wikicity page or to the original Wikipedia page.
 * 3) Direct the other links to the original Wikipedia targets, by adding "wikipedia:" straight after the opening pair of brackets. If there's a pipe in the link, that's all you need to do; but if there isn't you can add one just before the closing brackets, so that the link will appear just as the word or phrase without "wikipedia:" in front.