User talk:Edward Chernenko

Use my talkpage here please for any further questions.

'''This discussion page is closed. Use my talkpage on Russian Wikireality please.'''

Can you let me know why you would like the upreka wiki closed please? Angela (talk) 05:45, 25 June 2006 (UTC)
 * I would like to move it to my own server; this wiki is also inactive (I'm the only contibutor for now) so there should be nothing against closure. Edward Chernenko 12:58, 26 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Ok, I'll ask for it to be closed. Angela (talk) 05:58, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

Re: Translating message
Hi, no, it's not possible at this moment, but it will soon (I hope) customizable by MediaWiki:Sitetitle. Please see Forum:"A Wikia wiki" in site title. Szoferka 20:31, 4 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Thank you. 13:51, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

Meta
That's great, thanks. I'll ping you when I will know more. Szoferka 18:58, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

Adoption requests templates
Hi Edward. I wanted to thank you for your edits to Community Central:Adoption requests, as I can tell you were aiming to help make it a better page. However, we've chosen not to use the templates you added, so we'll continue to put the requests status in the section header (though the templates are still active on Community Central:Adoption requests/Archive 28). It's important for us to know at a glance what's approved, what's declined, what's on hold, and what hasn't been replied to yet, and the templates made it more difficult to do so. Again, though, we do want to thank you for being bold and looking to help. =) - Brandon Rhea (talk) 17:34, August 25, 2010 (UTC)


 * Understood. I'm sorry that my edits caused some problems. 17:49, August 25, 2010 (UTC)

Quick comment
How do you change the logo of a wiki? I need to do mine really quick. Thanks GG490
 * On Wikia, upload your custom logo as File:Wiki.png. 16:28, October 10, 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks! GG490

user page
I deleted the page for you. Nice picture of Thor though. -- Wendy (talk ) 01:23, October 13, 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks. Yeah, I'm a fan of StarGate :-) 05:00, October 13, 2010 (UTC)


 * I have deleted it again for you. I don't think it was specifiically rolled back - I think it was part of a bigger cleanup of stuff, so hopefully it will stay gone this time. -- Wendy (talk ) 02:12, October 25, 2010 (UTC)

Database dump tool?
I noticed on the Anti-wikia Alliance page that you said you had a tool that was better than the Special:Statistics? Can you help me and my wiki with it? Wikia is being slow with the database dumps (my theory is they're trying to keep us from leaving) and we need to move by Nov. 2. The wiki site is. Thank you! Roxy13 ~ Dad, I'm a fairy! 15:58, October 28, 2010 (UTC)
 * See http://absurdopedia.net/wiki/User:Edward_Chernenko/MediaWikiDumper . 17:28, October 28, 2010 (UTC)
 * Grazie. Roxy13 ~ Dad, I'm a fairy!  19:01, October 28, 2010 (UTC)

The wipeout bot
If you haven't already, you should make your threat to publish the code of the bot that can destroy wiki's directly to the staff. It's too big of a threat to just have as a P.S on the comments page. Bluesilver 09:45, November 6, 2010 (UTC)


 * I have no need to threat the staff. I need nothing from them. I've just noted that only the moral restrictions prevent me from publishing this bot for now. But why should I care about being moral if they will spit on us once more? 12:09, November 6, 2010 (UTC)

Need help with WikiDumper - Error while gathering logs
Hello!

I am using your MediaWikiDumper and now I am gathering logs. When I execute $ perl images.pl I get the following error:

Can't locate MIME/Base32.pm in @INC (@INC contains: C:/strawberry/perl/site/lib

C:/strawberry/perl/vendor/lib C:/strawberry/perl/lib .) at images.pl line 34.

BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at images.pl line 34.

So I can`t get the image information. Please advise how to solve this problem?

I am using Strawberry Perl 5.12.1.0. All required perl modules were installed via $ cpan command mentioned in the README.

Teyandee 14:04, November 7, 2010 (UTC)
 * Install MIME::Base32 Perl module. 14:10, November 7, 2010 (UTC)


 * How can I do that? If I run cpan MIME::Base32 the installation seems not to go correclty Here are the final lines of the installation process:

   
 * ''C:\strawberry\c\bin\dmake.EXE -- NOT OK
 * ''Running make test
 * ''Can't test without successful make
 * ''Running make install
 * Make had returned bad status, install seems impossible
 * And I still get that error.


 * More, when I run perl download-images.pl I get another error:

Can't locate Term/Size.pm in @INC (@INC contains: C:/strawberry/perl/site/lib  C:/strawberry/perl/vendor/lib C:/strawberry/perl/lib .) at download-images.pl line  21. BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at download-images.pl line 21.
 * Teyandee 15:29, November 7, 2010 (UTC)


 * Hmm... Windows is so Windows :( Let's try this:
 * create a directory 'MIME' in the folder with scripts, save this file to this directory. This should fix first problem.
 * In download-images.pl, remove 'use Term::Size;' at line 21 and replace the next line with 'our($term_w, $term_h) = (80, 24);'.
 * 15:52, November 7, 2010 (UTC)
 * Those errors are fixed. I have all the dumps. I an on setp 6 "Install images".
 * Do I understand correctly that PATH_TO_YOUR_IMAGES_DIRECTORY - path on a local disk with the mediawiki extraction?


 * When I execute perl cp it shows the following message: Can't open perl script "cp": No such file or directory. But the function must have been in the standard installation.


 * Teyandee 17:02, November 7, 2010 (UTC)
 * Instead of step 6, copy all subdirectories of dumps/_downloaded to the &lt;path_to_your_mediawiki_directory&gt;/images. That's all for Windows. 'cp' and 'chown' commands are for UNIX only. 17:14, November 7, 2010 (UTC)
 * Yes, it worked. I will now continue with SQL. By the way, what in the point of "Lock your wiki" action? Do we just block any ability to add/edit material? If that so - why do we need to download the changes to our dumps? Teyandee 19:08, November 7, 2010 (UTC)
 * The bot downloads articles one-by-one, and if you edit an article that has been downloaded already, this new edit won't be saved. So there're two ways: 1) either lock DB (via Special:ProtectSite, if you have access to it) or just stop editing, and then create a full dump using text.pl script. 2) or you can run text.pl twice and prevent editing only in the second run (important for very big wikis - first run can take hours while second run is very fast). 19:13, November 7, 2010 (UTC)


 * I now have trouble with SQL query. I run it via phpAdmin and receive this error message: #1064 - You have an error in your SQL syntax; check the manual that corresponds to your MySQL server version for the right syntax to use near 'alias MYSQL='mysql --batch --show-warnings -u ** -D ** -p**' at line 1. Tried it on 2 hosting but got the same error message. One hoster has mySQL 5.1.* x64 / l17 and second has MySQL client version: 5.1.50


 * Teyandee 18:40, November 8, 2010 (UTC)
 * Well, 'alias' is yet another UNIX-only command. The actual SQL queries are inside double quotes and start with 'LOAD DATA'. Also, you may need to specify a full path to your dumps (not just 'dumps/logs.txt' but 'D:/some/path/dumps/logs.txt') in these commands. 19:02, November 8, 2010 (UTC)
 * Yes, and one may have to specify the database name (for example write .interwiki) where  = name of the database you have on your server.


 * Now I am having some troubles executing scripts (via phpAdmin) on my hostings. One return an error "#1142 - INSERT command denied to user 'mywiki'@'localhost'" the second can`t locate the .txt file. The support is now informed about the problem. Even XAMPP doesn`t want to work. It says " Table 'wikidb.interwiki' doesn't exist". Like it can`t create a new table :(
 * Teyandee 17:34, November 9, 2010 (UTC)
 * 0) instead of adding database name to each SQL command, try "use ;" command first. 1) You have to install MediaWiki first. When setting up, it will create all tables that you require. 2) If you're using a web interface to MySQL (like phpmyadmin), the "*.txt" files must be uploaded to your server (set the path to them in LOAD DATA commands). 18:30, November 9, 2010 (UTC)
 * Yes - once MediaWiki is set up it is easier to create the queries. And yes - I do have to specify the file path when running via web interface. (Having troubles figuring out where to put the dump files. Contacted the support about it). At least XAMPP gave the good news: LOAD DATA LOCAL INFILE 'c:/interwiki.txt' IGNORE INTO TABLE interwiki and the rows are inserted. Teyandee 19:13, November 10, 2010 (UTC)
 * I have done test migration using XAMPP. Most of the process is done good. However, I encoutered some problems:


 * 1) download-images.pl scripts fails to recognize the - symbol. File:Teyandee_(episode_8)_–_1.jpg was downloaded as Teyandee_(episode_8)_вЂ“_1.jpg At the same time, images.pl got the correct name.


 * 2) download-images.pl also can`t recognize the Japanese characters in the file name. File:最新TVアニメ主題歌集.jpg was downloaded as жњЂж–°TVг‚ўгѓ‹гѓЎдё»йЎЊж­Њй›†.jpg images.pl has got the correct name in this case too


 * 3) Please add to the manual that for executing givepassword.pl you have to download and install Time::CTime and Time::Timezone. However after I got them I still can`t run the script. I get this message:

binmode on closed filehandle LOG at givepassword.pl line 40.

Global symbol "$RECEIVER" requires explicit package name at givepassword.pl line 130.

BEGIN not safe after errors--compilation aborted at givepassword.pl line 147.


 * 4) Some articles are missed. I can see that at least one is lost. Why could that be?
 * Teyandee 20:44, November 13, 2010 (UTC)
 * 1-2) Fixed in 1.1.5 version. Download here. This was a Windows-only problem (forgot to enable 'binmode' when reading download TODO list). 3). Added Time::CTime to README. Time::Timezone isn't used directly, it is required by Time::CTime (and will be being installed automatically when you type 'cpan Time::CTime'). As for the error with '$RECEIVER', it was a typo in givepassword.pl, is is fixed in 1.1.5. 4) Year, I've got such reports already, but I was unable to reproduce this problem (just made a dump of a small wiki with 1.1.5 version, numbers in Special:Statistics match). Maybe API works incorrect sometimes. Incremental dump (rerun text.pl) may help, but this was reported not to work on Windows. 21:08, November 15, 2010 (UTC)
 * I will now start the migration using new version. Problems 1 and 2 are sadly not gone. About the problem 4 - maybe there is a way to help you solve it like doing the logs of dumps? I found the text of that missing article in text.txt made after second text.pl running. Teyandee 17:51, November 16, 2010 (UTC)


 * Yet again I have troubles with givepassword.pl. Now I get the following message:

binmode on closed filehandle LOG at givepassword.pl line 48.

print on closed filehandle LOG at givepassword.pl line 55.</i>


 * I uninstalled and reinstalled Strawberry Perl and then installed only Time::CTime but the installation were not error-free (make test had returned bad status, won't install without force). Is there is another way to install Time::CTime? Teyandee 18:34, November 17, 2010 (UTC)
 * On problems 1,2 - will keep in mind but can't fix right now (until have an idea what causes this). On problem 4: yes, I was planning to make a loop until edits count of the result match source wiki Statistics. On givepassword.pl: please replace "/var/log/givepassword.log" in this file with the path that is correct for Windows (e.g. "D:/logs/givepassword.log"). On Time::CTime: download an archive with this module here, unpack it and move lib/Math lib/Time folder from this archive to the directory with bots. 17:22, November 18, 2010 (UTC)


 * About the 4th problem. I think you meant lib\Time as there is no lib\Math directory. I have move it to that folder and executed the script. I get the following line: Fri Nov 19 21:34:56 2010 Found -1 messages in mailbox in givepassword.log But I can`t login into the wikia - it says "Incorrect password entered. Please try again.". Nor can I recover the password as itsays "Error sending mail: There is no e-mail address recorded for user "Teyandee". Teyandee 18:55, November 19, 2010 (UTC)
 * On Wikia, you have unchecked an option &quot;Enable e-mail from other users&quot; in your Preferences. And the bot tried to send you the password back via Emailuser. 19:05, November 19, 2010 (UTC)


 * I have enabled this option at Wikia preferences. Then I delete all data from user & user_groups tables, then executed users.pl -> rebuildall.php -> givepassword.pl but I still get the "Found -1 messages in mailbox" and can`t login/recover the password :( Teyandee 19:52, November 19, 2010 (UTC)
 * 1) There was no need to do "  delete all data from user & user_groups tables, then executed users.pl -> rebuildall.php - </tt> " at all. 2) You don't know how to use this script, do you? You emailuser your bot account on Wikia, and only then you run givepassword.pl. Thats because this script is intended to be run every 10 minutes, for example, so that other users can recover their password without asking admin (you). 19:58, November 19, 2010 (UTC)


 * Can you please explain "You emailuser your bot account on Wikia"? For the GMAIL_CONF.pm I specified my username. I am not a bot - I am admin. Is that matters? Teyandee 20:19, November 19, 2010 (UTC)
 * Let's say that your CONFIGWIKIACENTRAL.pl has 'SuperMegaBot' username (and SuperMegaBot's mailbox is in GMAIL_CONF.pm). To recover a password, user goes to Special:Emailuser/SuperMegaBot on Wikia, and sends any message (even blank letter is OK). Got it? 20:28, November 19, 2010 (UTC)


 * Special:EmailUser/Teyandee shows This user has not specified a valid e-mail address.  The "user" table contains no e-mails or passwords. The only fields with data are: user_id, user_name, user_touched, user_token, user_registration and user_editcount. Teyandee 07:46, November 20, 2010 (UTC)
 * 1) Once more: Special:Emailuser on Wikia. Not on your new wiki. 2) old (not v1.16) version of MediaWiki? Or you have disabled emails during MediaWiki setup, haven't you? 09:57, November 20, 2010 (UTC)


 * UPDATE. I was analyzing the givepassword.pl. It needs requests for password recovery, but I can`t create any requests. I mailed myself a message from http://kyattounindenteyandee.wikia.com/wiki/Special:EmailUser/Teyandee and http://community.wikia.com/wiki/Special:EmailUser/Teyandee. However, givepassword.pl founds 0 requests. Teyandee 20:26, November 20, 2010 (UTC)
 * On Wikia, log into user specified in CONFIGWIKIACENTRAL.pl, then check Special:Preferences. I'm almost certain that this account is not associated with mailbox that you've set in GMAIL_CONF.pm. It should be. If givepassword.pl founds 0 requests, that means only one thing: there is no mail in your bot's Gmail inbox. 20:48, November 20, 2010 (UTC)
 * I used my account for the bot and I am emailconfirmed on wikia (email is the same as in GMAIL_CONF.pm) Teyandee 21:01, November 20, 2010 (UTC)
 * Once more: you have no unread mail in your Gmail inbox. Or maybe you haven't POP3 enabled in Gmail preferences? 21:40, November 20, 2010 (UTC)
 * I access Gmail via mail-client so all incoming messages remain unread when accessing via web. POP3 setting was "POP3 is enabled for all letters received since 1 October 2010. I have now Set it to "Enable POP for all mail (even mail that's already been downloaded)". But no result Teyandee 21:58, November 20, 2010 (UTC)
 * When your client first downloads a letter via POP3, this letter won't be downloaded next time POP3 is initiated, even if it wasn't marked as "already read" (bot asks POP3 server for new messages and receives "there are 0 new messages" reply). Most likely your client checked your mailbox right before you ran givepassword.pl. I strongly advise that you use another Wikia account and another mailbox on Gmail for this bot. Obviously last time it didn't work because you checked mail not via web-interface of Gmail (most likely unintentionally, your client did it). 22:05, November 20, 2010 (UTC)
 * Ok. But are we sure that the script is actually working? I send message from wikia and KNT wikia. Then I ran the script. It found 0 requests. However, when I later enter GMail via web I found 2 unread messages in the mailbox. I tried some other mailboxes (changed $MAILUSER / $MAILPASS / HOST ) and I always got "-1 " messages in the inbox. Teyandee 08:34, November 21, 2010 (UTC)
 * It is definitely not a error in my script. Because it uses a third-party module for POP3. If this module returns "0 messages" or "-1 messages" - sorry, not my problem. The script itself is working fine. 16:45, November 21, 2010 (UTC)
 * I will try to solve this problem. Meanwhile can you, please, tell me why can`t you just take e-mails and passwords from the old wikia database (if it is possible, of course). --Teyandee 18:23, November 21, 2010 (UTC)
 * No, it is impossible to retrieve passwords from Wikia. That's because each password on Wikia is not just for your wiki, but for all Wikia wikis as well. So they simply can't give a local admin their database of passwords. 18:37, November 21, 2010 (UTC)


 * I have found how to connect to GMAIL. See here. I couldn`t edit the script to make it work. But I was able to connect if I put the USER and PASSWORD directly in the script:

my $pop=Mail::POP3Client->new (USER => '***@gmail.com',PASSWORD => '***', HOST => 'pop.gmail.com', USESSL => 'true', ) || die "can't connect the server.\n"; </i>.

Can you please make the changes to the script?


 * What should happen next? I used "for (my $i = 1; $i <= 2; $i ++)" for testing But I received no e-mail. However I somehow got this message in perl command window:

<b>Unmatched ) in regex; marked by <-- HERE in m/^This e-mail was sent by (.*?) to Teyandee by the "E-mail user" function at) <-- HERE (.*?)$/ at givepassword.pl l ine 138.</b>.
 * I suppose the script couldn`t find the mail with the correct text. Teyandee 17:39, November 22, 2010 (UTC)
 * On problem with 'no messages': I think that the problem appeared because MAILUSER in GMAIL_CONF.pm should be with "@gmail.com" at the end (not just Gmail username). On error message: this is an accidental typo by me, sorry. Please remove a closing brace ) after "function at" at line 138. 18:13, November 22, 2010 (UTC)


 * Yes - after the typo was fixed the script worked! It seems that all problems were solved. Now we have the following issue: Since the password recovery bot uses the same e-mail as my confirmed Wikia e-mail, it may treat each message send me via Special:EmailUser as a recover request. One of the solutions is create another account and give admins right to it. However it is not safe to have 2 admins accounts. I propose the following solution: Mail is counted as a recovery request only if it contains "Password recovery" text. Maybe you can help me with it?


 * One more question: What do we need CONFIGWIKIACENTRAL.pl for? We have the same data in BOTCONFIG.pl. User can choose form which wikia to send e-mail and I think (s)he will prefer the old wikia instead of wikia.com. Teyandee 18:06, November 23, 2010 (UTC)
 * 1) Use another account. It needn't sysop flag at all. 2) it's your choice. I've separated configs because when I was writing this bot I thought that old wiki can be removed. It was about two months before New Look even appeared, so staff wasn't looking mad that time (as mad as they became). Also, there is a difference for non-English wikis that makes separated configs more logical: when you ask for password recovery, you should sent a mail via wikia with English-by-default interface... E.g. if you do not allow users to send Emailuser via Spanish wiki, why should your reply come from Spanish wiki? 18:32, November 23, 2010 (UTC)


 * 1) Ok - another account. That means this account have to be created as I don`t want to use the existing one (neither my nor belonging to other users). But I don`t think it is worth it creating account just for the bot. Therefore I suggest the above mentioned solution - Mail is counted as a recovery request only if it contains "Password recovery" text. 2) It is good you have 2 possible password recovery ways. Old wikia account may be blocked, but I don`t think they will block wikia.com account which we may in that case user for the recovery. Teyandee 17:27, November 25, 2010 (UTC)
 * 1) Bots are not supposed to be run not under a separate account. I found it strange that someone even thinks about it. 1a) yes, it's easy to make the bot ignore messages without "Password recovery" text. But it will cause another problem for you: your mail client will never download new letters from Gmail, because a letter can only be downloaded once via POP3. Even if the bot ignored it, this letter will be considered "already read" by POP3 server. 2) If it causes some problems for you (two clicks to register, that's impossible to do! lol :)), you can use Extension:UserMigration instead, WoWWiki used it. It is a third-party extension (not by me) that works with 'user' table filled in by MediaWikiDumper. 18:04, November 25, 2010 (UTC)


 * 1) It is not hard to create another user :) I wanted to say why register new account just for bot to recover the password if when can possibly use the admin account + special string in the mail. But if you say it will cause problems then I guess I have to make new account.


 * 2) Yes - I tested Extension:UserMigration. It can be used as an alternative when recovering the password. However, I like your tool more. Teyandee 17:12, November 26, 2010 (UTC)

MediaWiki Dumper error
Hello,

I tried to move my database but I got a problem, when in the tutorial it asks me to enter perl logs.pl in the command I got the following message : Mediawiki error:[4] Login Failure - Wrongpass

How come?I checked the mwDB.pm file and everything is alright.

I'mquite worried because I tried all methods to move my database (specialpages:import, importdump.php and so on...) and it doesn't work.

Can you help me?

Thank you

RenFR 01:52, November 11, 2010 (UTC)
 * The username and password in BOTCONFIG.pl are incorrect. The only explanation. Perhaps a typo? These must be the correct username and password to an account on Wikia. 05:35, November 11, 2010 (UTC)
 * Thank you! In fact it wasn't typo but my password contained slashes and special characters so I changed it to something simpler.
 * For the moment it seems to work but I have another question, is it normal that for me it only shows up :
 * 0 .................................................
 * 0 .................................................

I don't have those last lines :

5000 .................................................   10000 .. It won't cause troubles I hope?

Thank you

RenFR 16:29, November 11, 2010 (UTC)
 * That's ok. These dots show the progress; if your wiki has less than 5000 log entries, you'll see only the first line (starting with '0'). For Absurdopedia wiki there were 7 lines. 16:43, November 11, 2010 (UTC)
 * Well,now I have another problem.
 * I downloaded all the pictures of the wiki and uploaded them to my server. I downloaded all the text and now what do I do?
 * It says to read the README but I don't understand the step 9, where do I paste those commands?? It also tells me to instal MySQL Server, but why? My database is on a server not on my computer...
 * What am I supposed to do?
 * RenFR 18:53, November 11, 2010 (UTC)
 * Connect to your server using SSH (hope your hoster provides such access). You will get a command console where commands from README will work (starting with 'alias' command). 18:59, November 11, 2010 (UTC)
 * Now I have activated the SSH connection but I have a problem. I downloaded WinSCP. Opened the terminal, created a folder dumps where I put the needed files.
 * I went to the terminal and pasted the first command and it doesn't work.
 * I have this error : Command 'MYSQL -e"LOAD DATA LOCAL INFILE 'dumps/interwiki.txt' IGNORE INTO TABLE interwiki"' failed with return code 127 and error message
 * -jailshell: line 27: MYSQL: command not found.
 * Can you help me? Thank you.
 * RenFR 16:06, November 14, 2010 (UTC)
 * You've forgot the 'alias' command from README. Your server most likely has UNIX, so use README directly, not a Windows tutorial that says to skip this command. 19:20, November 15, 2010 (UTC)
 * Seems to work but it gave me another error saying somewhat the table is not found :
 * -jailshell: line 67: alias: -eLOAD DATA LOCAL INFILE 'dumps/interwiki.txt' IGNORE INTO TABLE interwiki: not found
 * and yet the wiki is installed and I can see this table in the DB.
 * RenFR 00:06, November 16, 2010 (UTC)
 * This message doesn't say that table is not found. It says that 'alias' command works not as expected in UNIX (not a Bash shell?). Try this way: 1. skip the command with 'alias'. 2. In all commands with 'MYSQL', replace 'MYSQL' with the content between the single quotes of the 'alias' command (e.g. you type  etc.).  04:43, November 16, 2010 (UTC)
 * Now it gives me a "/bin/bash: line 40: renfr_renfr: No such file or directory"
 * renfr_renfr is the username of the database. I'm a in public_html directory where all wiki files are and where the dumps folder is. I tried to put /home/ren_fr/public_html/dumps/interwiki.txt and it doesn't work either. What's wrong again??
 * Either a mistype in command, or... it looks very much like an old version of MySQL. Try removing a space between '-u' and username (and after '-D' too). 06:10, November 16, 2010 (UTC)
 * I don't understand. I checked to see if I was wrong. I typed in the terminal /home/renfr/public_html/dumps and it tells me it's a directory and it even tries to execute the file when I add interwiki.txt. But when I insert that to the code it tells me there is no such file or directory.
 * Exactly I put : mysql --batch --show-warnings -u <renfr_renfr> -D <renfr_wiki> -p -e"LOAD DATA LOCAL INFILE '/home/renfr/public_html/dumps/interwiki.txt' IGNORE INTO TABLE interwiki"
 * The hosting server I use is hostgator and their mysql version is 5.1.52 so it should be okay.
 * I tried with puTTY and I get the same "no such file or directory error".
 * I hope there's a solution because MediaWikiDumper is my only hope.
 * EDIT : Here's a screenshot Dumpfailure.jpg Hope it helps.
 * RenFR 06:40, November 16, 2010 (UTC)
 * Well, I see two mistakes of yours on this screenshot. 1) Second command should NOT begin with 'alias'. It begins with 'MYSQL'. 2) You should remove "&lt;" and "&gt;" characters around the parameters. E.g. not "-D &lt;renfr_wiki&gt;" but "-D renfr_wiki". 17:03, November 16, 2010 (UTC)
 * Thank you very much for helping me! It works perfectly! Bye-bye Wikia! RenFR 19:26, November 17, 2010 (UTC)
 * Thank you very much for helping me! It works perfectly! Bye-bye Wikia! RenFR 19:26, November 17, 2010 (UTC)

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our new user box. Anno1404 21:02, November 30, 2010 (UTC)

please continue to help us
RE: "If you want me to answer your stupid questions, pay me a tutor salary"

That message could be from me, hell it maybe is from me.

I'm sorry, but this attitude is a small part of the reason mediawiki is so user unfriendly now.

You have a gift. 99.9% of the population does not understand what you are doing. Like me, they are used to using programs like Word and Excel, and Windows, in which you don't need to spend hundreds of hours learning obscure and unforgiving computer language to get anything done. That is the reason why the hardware and much of the software you use is so damn cheap, because it has been democratized and easy to understand for the majority of the population.

I often get so infuriated at American's foreign policy ignorance or their ignorance in general, so I understand why you would be so frustrated at dumb questions.

Just continue to do what you did with for me, and don't discourage newbies like the one on your user page.

You were SO helpful to me, and SO patient with me. Just yesterday I used your instructions again that you painstakingly and so patiently help me with.

I am a newbie too, but I have contributed more to meta and mediawiki in an effort to understand, and in turn, help other understand, thousands more edits than most of these computer experts. I try to give back to the community.

Until mediawiki is dumbed down and/or clearer instructions are written (they are god awful for 99% of the population), you will continue to have dumb questions like mine. I just ask you, please, please: we need you as a translator, continue to be patient with those who are ignorant of what are an expert in. Anno1404 20:58, November 30, 2010 (UTC)


 * Hey. My point is that if you don't know how to tune MediaWiki, it is a task not for you to host your wiki. I can help you when you have some particular problem, but won't spend my time for writing complete tutorials. 18:42, December 1, 2010 (UTC)

Edward Chernenko
Привет. Лёва Корова 17:50, December 7, 2010 (UTC)