Forum:2008 Feb 10 IRC meeting transcript

The following is a semi-sanitized version of the IRC chat transcript. All times listed are based in PST (California etc).

-PanSola 18:07, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
 * [13:00:57]  ok, time to do self-intros
 * [13:01:34] * PanSola is from GuildWiki, and happens to be an admin there. Also hops around on other gaming wikis
 * [13:02:05]  I'm Guesty-Persony-Thingy, Administrator of seven wikis, four of them Gaming. I do PanSola's dirty work, moderate this channel, and hop around on all kinds of wikis, but mainly Gaming.
 * [13:02:11] * Sky2042 is a WoWWiki admin. Also does general help with people in #wikia.
 * [13:02:21] i'm uberfuzzy, from eq2i (and others), and now a gaming intern for Wikia
 * [13:02:22] * Phil_E is from Halopedia, Wii Wiki, and Mario Wiki(among others), and is a bureaucrat on the last two
 * [13:02:24] * Simonrjh is the founder of Gruntipedia ( www.unhalo.wikia.com ) and edits frequently on halopedia
 * [13:02:33] * nq2h is from RuneScape Wiki..
 * [13:02:39]  Admin from Domo Wiki
 * [13:02:43]  im a wikia gaming helper, i was an active contributor on RuneScape Wiki, Wikitroid, Super Smash Bros. Wiki, Zeldapedia, and other gaming wikis
 * [13:02:45] * Azul81677 is a Admin-Sysop at the Kingdom Hearts Wiki and a Moderator at the Final Fantasy Wiki
 * [13:02:50] * supergeeky1 is a bureau on SWGames, the Star Wars Gaming Wiki.
 * [13:03:06] * Kodia is from EQ2i
 * [13:03:23] * Churchreborn is a user at Halopedia..
 * [13:03:23]  h
 * [13:03:29] * Joins: hexedmagica
 * [13:03:32] * Joins: Tesfan
 * [13:03:36]  hey x2
 * [13:03:43]  Hello Tesfan
 * [13:03:44] * Charitwo is from FFXIclopedia and I hunt the baddies all over wiki and work on gaming Wikis.
 * [13:03:53]  s/wiki/wikia
 * [13:04:03]  Hi
 * [13:04:07] * hexedmagica is from the FFWiki but is also a Admin on the KHwiki *
 * [13:04:15]  COD introduce yourself
 * [13:05:04] ...
 * [13:05:19] * Playsonic2 is admin on Grand Theft Encyclopedia, Disney Wiki, Metal Gear Wiki and User Normal on Wikijuegos and Inciclopedia, and I'm also helping a little on es.wikia
 * [13:05:27]  (all spanish wikis)
 * [13:05:32]  oh, I edit the final fantasy wiki, a mod at Kingdom Hearts wiki, and I try to help the Fire Emblem wiki, its in need of help
 * [13:05:35] * Joins: Skizzerz
 * [13:05:55]  hey Skizzerz
 * [13:05:57]  hi
 * [13:05:59]  ooo a Fire Emblem wikia
 * [13:06:03]  orly?
 * [13:06:03] <Sky2042> that might be worth joining.
 * [13:06:04] <Cloudofdarkness> nd whois does?
 * [13:06:14] <GPT> Cloudofdarkness: it tells you who someone is
 * [13:06:15] <Charitwo> hiya Skizzerz
 * [13:06:17] <GPT> sort of
 * [13:06:25] <PanSola> anyone else?
 * [13:06:33] <Azul81677> Check the Status page when you use it
 * [13:07:07] * Playsonic2 also makes articles for other spanish gaming wikis sometimes
 * [13:07:15] * Skizzerz lurks
 * [13:07:15] <Jack_Phoenix> oh hai thar
 * [13:07:25] <Cloudofdarkness> the fire emblem wiki has 96 articles last time I checked, and Its very... very small
 * [13:07:30] so, PanSola whats on the agenda this week
 * [13:07:37] when are we actually getting onto the chat
 * [13:08:02] <PanSola> agenda #1:
 * [13:08:33] <PanSola> uberfuzzy will be writing articles for the Gaming hub OpEds
 * [13:08:47] <Kodia> (or recruiting people to write!)
 * [13:08:54] <PanSola> Everyone must read them or else!!!!! (j/k)
 * [13:08:57] <Jack_Phoenix> whatever works <g>
 * [13:09:10] <PanSola> but yeah I encourage you guys to keep an eye on his articles (-:
 * [13:09:23] <PanSola> and write ones yourself (thanks for all the ppl who have written ones before)
 * [13:09:26] i'll be posting neat tips and other things i know, maybe someday, people will start doing them so i have to :)
 * [13:09:39] * Joins: theonyx_
 * [13:09:43] <Sky2042> don't*?
 * [13:09:44] <PanSola> hi theonyx_
 * [13:09:45] <Sky2042> =]
 * [13:09:56] <Playsonic2> hey theonyx_
 * [13:09:56] <theonyx_> hello
 * [13:10:04] <PanSola> also, Blacksite Wiki is the new featured gaming wikia
 * [13:10:18] <PanSola> but it's blurb kinda sucks
 * [13:10:26] <PanSola> http://www.wikia.com/wiki/Gaming
 * [13:10:32] <PanSola> if nayone can help improve it, that'd be great
 * [13:10:51] <Kirkburn> Evening
 * [13:10:53] <PanSola> (and remember to nominate/vote for featured gaming wikis)
 * [13:11:04] <PanSola> hi Kirkburn
 * [13:11:10] <Azul81677> Is it better to be the Featured Gaming Wiki or on the front page of Wikia
 * [13:11:13] <Azul81677> ?
 * [13:11:18] <PanSola> it's different
 * [13:11:24] <Kirkburn> <-- WoWWiki admin, Wikia Gaming Helper
 * [13:11:33] <Cloudofdarkness> *random question* Can you get banned from here?
 * [13:11:39] <GPT> yes
 * [13:11:42] <PanSola> and besides, either one only last a limited time
 * [13:11:43] <Azul81677> yup
 * [13:11:44] yeah
 * [13:12:00] <GPT> only if you do something bad... be sensible and civil and you'll have no trouble. =D
 * [13:12:09] <PanSola> I think Front Page Wikia has more general exposure
 * [13:12:16] <Azul81677> Got it
 * [13:12:29] <Cloudofdarkness> perminately for your computer, or just user name?
 * [13:12:29] <PanSola> whereas the Gaming hub (and thus featred gaming wikia) is more targeted
 * [13:12:30] ok.
 * [13:12:37] <Azul81677> The Kingdom Hearts Wiki is currently in the lead
 * [13:12:44] <GPT> Cloudofdarkness: either.
 * [13:12:45] <Cloudofdarkness> It is cool
 * [13:12:48] <PanSola> Azul81677: you mean after Forgotten Realms? d-:
 * [13:12:55] <Azul81677> Huh?
 * [13:13:08] <Azul81677> They are winning?
 * [13:13:12] everyone voting?
 * [13:13:15] <Cloudofdarkness> wait, it isnt
 * [13:13:38] <PanSola> For featured gaming wiki? I think they have a dozen votes or so
 * [13:13:49] * Joins: hexedagica
 * [13:13:51] <Azul81677> No for Featured Wikia
 * [13:14:01] <PanSola> ah ok
 * [13:14:02] <GPT> yes
 * [13:14:06] i'm having connection trouble
 * [13:14:11] and CoD stop it.
 * [13:14:46] <GPT> just use your common sense, please, thank you,
 * [13:14:47] * Quits: Richard1990
 * [13:15:37] <Kirkburn> Where is the vote location?
 * [13:15:43] <PanSola> the Wikia New York team has ben working with Halopedia on certain tools/features
 * [13:15:55] <GPT> certain SEXY tools/features, I might add
 * [13:15:56] <PanSola> Kirkburn: go to the gaming hub and you'll see under Featred gaming wiki
 * [13:15:57] <[NewsBot]> GamePolitics: Missing Marine’s Family Fears that Call of Duty May Have Triggered Bad Memories - http://gamepolitics.com/2008/02/10/missing-marines-family-fears-that-call-of-duty-may-have-triggered-bad-memories/
 * [13:16:14] <Kirkburn> PanSola, kk
 * [13:16:27] <Sky2042> PanSola: pixures or links?
 * [13:16:27] <Kirkburn> Ah yeah, Halopedia's upcoming new stuff looks really cool
 * [13:16:31] <PanSola> http://fp016.sjc.wikia-inc.com/
 * [13:16:45] <GPT> hexedmagica: "/msg NickServ GHOST hexedmagica "
 * [13:16:46] * Joins: mymindislost
 * [13:16:49] <Tesfan> mhm
 * [13:16:53] its got some neat things, but i dont think they are for every community
 * [13:16:54] <Azul81677> Hi MMIL :)
 * [13:16:55] <Phil_E> are those features going to be added to the original Halopedia?
 * [13:17:02] Hello all. ^_^
 * [13:17:02] <Kirkburn> Sky2042, take note ;)
 * [13:17:02] <PanSola> I think it'd be a good idea for users of other wikis to also check it out
 * [13:17:06] <GPT> Phil_E: yes
 * [13:17:07] <Kirkburn> mymindislost, welcome
 * [13:17:12] <PanSola> and see if they feel those stuff are good for thier wiki or not
 * [13:17:15] Phil_E: that will BE halopedia
 * [13:17:18] * Quits: hexedmagica
 * [13:17:22] <Phil_E> ...
 * [13:17:26] <Azul81677> .....
 * [13:17:26] * hexedagica is now known as Hexedmagica
 * [13:17:28] <Phil_E> no community vote or anything?
 * [13:17:35] <GPT> Phil_E: they're testing it out
 * [13:17:41] <Charitwo> i think it's already done
 * [13:17:43] <GPT> http://halo.wikia.com/ and look at the Sitenotice =P
 * [13:17:45] <Kirkburn> Well obviously feedback helps
 * [13:17:50] <PanSola> (for example, the vocal population on GuildWiki currently are mostly against the stuff they saw on the testing Halopedia)
 * [13:17:55] <Phil_E> they're not useful at all IMO..
 * [13:18:14] <Phil_E> they're like an attempt at turning Halopedia into a mix of a wikia and myspace
 * [13:18:21] <PanSola> it's probalby more useful for some communities, and less for others
 * [13:18:23] <Phil_E> or some other social site
 * [13:18:28] useful, no, but people like playing with shiney objects
 * [13:18:29] <GPT> yeah... the Administration doesn't really like that bit as much, phil
 * [13:18:35] <Simonrjh> the new halopedia stuff is ok, but i fear ppl will stop editing and try to get loads of friends/gifts instead
 * [13:18:39] <Tesfan> mhm
 * [13:18:40] <Phil_E> exactly
 * [13:19:02] <Hexedmagica> that's what happened on the FFWiki when we got forums, everybody now is just using the forums
 * [13:19:02] <PanSola> well, friends/gifts isn't the only ting up there
 * [13:19:08] <Simonrjh> i even said that halopedia is now comparable to myspace/facebook
 * [13:19:13] halopedia is becoming less a wiki and more a social site anyway
 * [13:19:16] <Phil_E> the Halopedia is supposed to be an online Halo encyclopedia, but the features turn it into a social networking site
 * [13:19:17] <GPT> PanSola: points, mainly, probably
 * [13:19:22] <Phil_E> (or attempt at being so)
 * [13:19:24] <Simonrjh> Phil_E: agreed.
 * [13:19:33] <Kirkburn> It's supposed to be whatever the users want it to be
 * [13:19:47] <Azul81677> fansite first?
 * [13:20:00] <Simonrjh> which users said they wanted a social network instead of an encyclopedia
 * [13:20:13] <Phil_E> imagine if that happened to Wikipedia, it just wouldn't go
 * [13:20:15] theres only so much you can put on a wiki for a closed finite game/verse, even one as expansive as halo
 * [13:20:18] Azul: Well, so says the FFWiki bureaucrat, but not necessarily all wikis
 * [13:20:18] <Cloudofdarkness> any ideas to improve a new wiki?
 * [13:20:19] <GPT> Simonrjh: most of the new users spend they're time socializing, so it's implied
 * [13:20:23] <Phil_E> Halopedia != myspace
 * [13:20:23] <Kirkburn> *sigh*, this isn't an either/or
 * [13:20:31] <GPT> Cloudofdarkness: edit a lot, invite people who know about it to edit a lot
 * [13:20:33] <Sky2042> uberfuzzy: naaaaaah. there's always a new Halo game.
 * [13:20:34] <PanSola> I believe many admins in a survey last year or the year before wanted stuff to help "Community building"
 * [13:20:46] <Azul81677> MMIL:Ahhhh
 * [13:20:56] * Parts: Skizzerz
 * [13:20:58] <Cloudofdarkness> i mean how to attract new users
 * [13:21:09] <GPT> Cloudofdarkness: get a lot of pages and invite people to add more
 * [13:21:10] <Tesfan> I remember when people all started posting their quizzes on #halopedia
 * [13:21:13] <Simonrjh> lets see this from non-members P.O.V. - people come to halopedia for walkthroughs, skull locations, for help. they dont want to see a load of relationship information
 * [13:21:14] <Kirkburn> Add community tools and how exactly will that replace the wiki? It's an addition, not a replacement
 * [13:21:30] <Azul81677> COD:Talking about KH or Fire Emblem Wiki?
 * [13:21:38] <Cloudofdarkness> both
 * [13:21:45] <Simonrjh> Tesfan: shush that never happened >.>
 * [13:21:47] <Phil_E> PanSola: "social" user pages and userpoints don't really build a community..they most likely will just get people who want to get 10000 points
 * [13:21:54] <Simonrjh> yep
 * [13:21:59] <Sky2042> agreed with Kirkburn. i doubt it should be featured so prominently though/
 * [13:22:04] <Kirkburn> http://fp016.sjc.wikia-inc.com/wiki/Main_Page ... if you look at that page - it's hardly an overwhelming presence of community stuff
 * [13:22:07] <Simonrjh> i fear spam articles/ blogs will be made to boost points
 * [13:22:09] <Phil_E> and since they can be garnered through methods other than editing, it really detracts
 * [13:22:31] <Kirkburn> Rather than predicting doom and gloom, why not see what actually happens?
 * [13:22:32] <Simonrjh> i would like the system if points only got given for mainspace edits, as per Phil
 * [13:22:34] <Tesfan> When I think of gaming.wikia, I don't think of a encyclopedia, I think of a place where gamers can come and chat
 * [13:22:34] <Phil_E> i got like 6,000 user points in an hour or so just by taking a quiz
 * [13:22:41] <Haledire> yeah, technically the idea just falls into "look at my post count, i'm important"
 * [13:22:45] <Hexedmagica> wow.
 * [13:22:56] <GPT> I agree with Simonrjh and Phil_E... mainspace edits only should give points.
 * [13:23:03] <Simonrjh> :)
 * [13:23:05] <Kirkburn> And then how does that prevent spam?
 * [13:23:08] <Phil_E> the features work fine on gaming.wikia, or other really general sites, but not on specific game sites like the Halopedia
 * [13:23:17] <Azul81677> Sorry guys but gtg, man I always miss out
 * [13:23:20] <Kirkburn> People will break up larger edits into lots of tiny ones
 * [13:23:20] * Quits: Azul81677
 * [13:23:22] you mean exactly as the world of halo multiplayer is now? look at me, ive got a bigger number then you
 * [13:23:43] <Sky2042> uberfuzzy: true of any game.
 * [13:23:46] <GPT> Kirkburn: it's not that hard to say "don't do that"
 * [13:23:47] <Simonrjh> admins should be able to stop point-whores - maybe some sytem of stopping the points system for untrustworthy users?
 * [13:23:49] <Kirkburn> If you give them other routes to get their "omg points" fix, they won't spam the articles for it
 * [13:24:11] * Joins: anc96
 * [13:24:15] hiya
 * [13:24:21] <Phil_E> Kirkburn: there's "meet other halo fans", "take a poll", and "site activity" that takes up a good half of the page just for info on gifts and user promotions
 * [13:24:32] <Phil_E> that's pretty overwhelming compared to http://halo.wikia.com/ IMO
 * [13:24:39] <Kirkburn> Site activity =/= community onyl links
 * [13:24:54] <GPT> Site Activity = real time RC
 * [13:24:55] <Simonrjh> ok, maybe you dont give points for consecutive edits to the same article by the same user
 * [13:24:56] that site activity log on the front page is way to long imho
 * [13:24:57] <Kirkburn> It's like saying the recent changes list is community stuff
 * [13:25:24] <Kirkburn> It is too long though, agreed
 * [13:25:38] <Simonrjh> we definitely shouldnt give points for user page and user talk page edits
 * [13:25:48] <GPT> absolutely not
 * [13:25:55] <Kirkburn> However, please do think of it from the point of new users - they want to feel welcome, and that there are people there to talk to
 * [13:25:57] <Phil_E> or anything other than mainspace edits really..
 * [13:26:21] <Kirkburn> Without a community, a wiki doesn't keep on going very well, you just get spikes when new info appears
 * [13:26:30] <Phil_E> Kirkburn: what about the maybe 50% that just want to go on the site for a minute or so to check out info about a skull or armor perm
 * [13:26:43] <Kirkburn> Phil_E, and this doesn't really affect that
 * [13:26:46] <Phil_E> all the other stuff will just be in the way
 * [13:26:47] Kirkburn: yes, but you run the risk of turning a data wiki into facebook
 * [13:26:50] <Cloudofdarkness> GPT: okay
 * [13:26:52] * Hexedmagica has got to go
 * [13:26:59] * Parts: Hexedmagica
 * [13:26:59] <Phil_E> what uberfuzzy said too
 * [13:27:34] <Kirkburn> The original facebook was excellent
 * [13:28:02] <Phil_E> and the original Halopedia was too
 * [13:28:11] <Kirkburn> Phil_E, I don't really see it being in the way? All the links are still there, there's stilla search box and the sidebar nav is improved
 * [13:28:14] <Phil_E> and is, bh
 * [13:28:39] <Phil_E> *tbh
 * [13:28:52] <Phil_E> how is it improved?
 * [13:29:11] <Kirkburn> You have js turned on?
 * [13:29:15] <Charitwo> Kirkburn: i dont like it either
 * [13:29:17] guys, this is the weekly halo chat, this can go on for hours, and theres a #halopedia for that
 * [13:29:25] this isnt*
 * [13:29:42] <Kirkburn> Phil_E, it's supposed to be a cascading list of links
 * [13:30:08] <Sky2042> uberfuzzy: not really. this sort of thing was brought up specifically for non-Halo people to get a look at what Halopedia is doing.
 * [13:30:12] <PanSola> (to be fair, the discussion is on the features being *tested* on a copy of Halopedia, but the features themselves aren't halopedia-specific)
 * [13:30:16] theres something i'd like to bring up too
 * [13:30:22] <Haledire> to be back on topic, the navigational setup looks interesting if set up properly
 * [13:30:23] <Phil_E> "inside the universe" for example is basically a redlink to Inside the Universe
 * [13:30:33] <PanSola> ok let's put the feature-testing aside (revisit later if needed)
 * [13:30:37] <Kirkburn> Phil_E, it's a test site
 * [13:30:52] <Phil_E> yeah
 * [13:30:58] <PanSola> uberfuzzy: go
 * [13:31:06] Special:ProblemReports admins need be checking it more
 * [13:31:17] msgame says: me need halp
 * [13:31:19] help
 * [13:31:20] i've worked with sannse to get it cleaned up and improved a bunch recently
 * [13:31:38] i've seen wikis that have reports just piling up
 * [13:31:42] * Kirkburn supports uberfuzzy
 * [13:31:48] <Charitwo> it'd help if i could even deal with my problem reports lol
 * [13:31:50] <Kodia> it would be easier to check if quartz would let it persist across pages
 * [13:31:59] <Kirkburn> Charitwo, how do you mean?
 * [13:32:04] * Quits: anc96
 * [13:32:07] if you think your site doesnt need it, or you dont want it, its possible to turn it off for your wiki
 * [13:32:14] <Charitwo> because of our sites "custom" sysop group
 * [13:32:15] but its a valuable tool
 * [13:32:17] <Sky2042> uberfuzzy: might be that the editing com, don't know about them?
 * [13:32:24] <Kirkburn> Charitwo, ah, have you reported the problem?
 * [13:32:28] <Sky2042> (community)
 * [13:32:39] <Charitwo> Kirkburn: i can't ban, import, edit mediawiki namespace, or handle problemreports, but i can do everything else
 * [13:32:57] <Charitwo> no Kirkburn, i want to deal with the problem reports the other admins don't bother to care about
 * [13:34:20] <Kirkburn> uh ... so have you reported the problem
 * [13:34:56] <Kirkburn> There's nothing we can personally do about it, other than to tell you to tell those who can :P
 * [13:35:12] <Kirkburn> Kodia, persist across pages?
 * [13:35:16] * Parts: mymindislost
 * [13:35:22] theres a PR widget
 * [13:35:37] but widgets are having problem in 1.12
 * [13:35:38] <Charitwo> Kirkburn: i haven't no, random viewers and community members
 * [13:35:42] they dont stick again
 * [13:35:48] <Kodia> Yes. if you put the widget in, you can view it then. but move to another page and thewidget doesn't stick if you're on 1.12
 * [13:36:07] <Kodia> That makes it necessary to reload or visit the problems page manually
 * [13:36:14] <Kodia> It's not something a lot of admins think about
 * [13:36:26] <Kirkburn> There's the problem reports page which you can open the links from in other tabs
 * [13:36:27] regardlessof the widget, admins need to keep Special:ProblemReports on their list of things to check, along with their wiki's method of s
 * [13:36:47] <Kodia> I understand that
 * [13:37:05] <Kodia> I'm just saying that it worked before, now it doesn't, most people don't think to check, and it would be easier if it persisted.
 * [13:37:27] <Kirkburn> 1.12 widget problem, known :P
 * [13:37:43] <Kodia> I also know that
 * [13:37:53] <Kodia> Or I would have raised a larger ruckus
 * [13:39:36] <Kirkburn> Good idea to get it more advertised though
 * [13:39:38] * Simonrjh is now known as Simonrjh|GH3
 * [13:40:02] <Kirkburn> Probably can't fit it into a Mediawiki message, but I'll check it's ont he starter wiki
 * [13:40:26] <Kirkburn> PanSola, you there?
 * [13:40:35] <PanSola> yeah
 * [13:40:46] <Kirkburn> You went quiet :P
 * [13:41:01] <PanSola> well not much to interject for me d-:
 * [13:41:13] <PanSola> problem report actions also appear on RC
 * [13:41:24] <PanSola> so ppl patrolling RC should naturally see them
 * [13:42:32] <PanSola> any wikis got any stuff they want to bring up to talk about?
 * [13:43:17] <Haledire> i was curious about the lightbox extention brought up a couple weeks ago (i kept missing meetings so i haven't heard anything lately)
 * [13:43:21] * GPT wants to talk about the Blakes 7 Wiki:
 * [13:43:21] <GPT> NEEDS MOAR COWBELL <font face="PP Handwriting">editors
 * [13:43:22] <Kirkburn> or any big game releases coming up that may need wiki help?
 * [13:43:33] <GPT> but that's completely unrelated =P
 * [13:43:45] <PanSola> blakes 7?
 * [13:43:52] <GPT> Kirkburn: eartheternal.wikia is about a game being released... eventualy.
 * [13:43:54] <Kodia> I have something that Charitwo mentioned to me yesterday.
 * [13:43:57] <Phil_E> ew deprecated HTML tags
 * [13:43:58] <GPT> PanSola: not even Gaming, rofl =P
 * [13:44:03] <PanSola> Haledire: sorry I haven't been following on discussion of that extension
 * [13:44:21] <Haledire> ok, figured I'd check if anyone knew
 * [13:44:42] <Sky2042> Phil_E: truth
 * [13:44:45] <Sky2042> font is ew.
 * [13:44:49] <Kodia> At least I think i was he...
 * [13:44:52] <Sky2042> Haledire: link?
 * [13:45:03] <Phil_E> wow you scared me
 * [13:45:22] <Phil_E> the narrator on TV said "blah blah truth or dare? blah.." just before you said that :P
 * [13:45:23] <Haledire> uh... links were in the discussion from jan 20th i think, i'll look it up real quick
 * [13:46:01] <Haledire> i don't know where to find the discussion on it with the coders for wiki though
 * [13:47:48] <Haledire> or.. maybe not hm... i'll post the link to the page i remember someone bringing up: http://www.huddletogether.com/projects/lightbox/
 * [13:49:34] <Haledire> there was an extention in particular someone brought up that was almost done, but offhand I can't remember where it was
 * [13:50:03] <PanSola> ack, I'm not sure how thrilled the techs will be to deal with an "almost done" extension
 * [13:50:27] <Haledire> well, it just had some bugs about image size issues
 * [13:51:04] <PanSola> oh it's just a javascript...
 * [13:51:15] <PanSola> um, any sysop can install it for their own wikia
 * [13:52:03] that version is just JS, there is an extension version too
 * [13:52:24] <PanSola> oh wait it needs a "rel" call in the anchor, so not trivial
 * [13:52:30] <Haledire> yeah, not having much luck finding the extension page, it was a couple weeks ago and I had to clear my cache ><
 * [13:53:08] <Haledire> the person I was discussing it with wanted it mainly for gallery purposes, where I was just looking for something for single images
 * [13:54:39] <PanSola> sigh, it'd be nice to know if the techs are currently busy with any high-priority stuff or not
 * [13:55:18] <PanSola> anyone have anything else to discuss?
 * [13:55:29] <Kodia> I do but we only have 5 minutes left
 * [13:55:31] <Kodia> :)
 * [13:55:33] <Kodia> ish
 * [13:55:38] <PanSola> Kodia: toss it out anyways
 * [13:55:58] <PanSola> "toss it out" as in "put it on the table", not as in "throw it away"
 * [13:55:59] <Kirkburn> (Added the problemreports link to the starter wiki :)
 * [13:55:59] <PanSola> >_<"
 * [13:56:15] <Sky2042> oh, bah@5 minutes. we have as many minutes as there are people to discuss :P
 * [13:56:21] <Kirkburn> PanSola, there's still several wikis to be upgraded to 1.12
 * [13:56:24] <Haledire> oh, found the extension: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:LightboxThumbs
 * [13:56:35] <PanSola> Kirkburn: such as WoWWiki and GuildWiki? d-:
 * [13:56:42] <Kirkburn> Indeedy :P
 * [13:56:43] <Kodia> if we're trying to promote assistance across games, it might be nice to suggest via some link on your main pages (or where you point to people who want to help) some game wiki updates that can specifically be done by people who *aren't* part of that game.
 * [13:56:56] <PanSola> Kirk: I'm not sure if that count as high priority though
 * [13:57:08] <Sky2042> PanSola: we've noticed. -_-
 * [13:57:09] <Kirkburn> :(
 * [13:57:20] <Kodia> For example, say I wanted to help with Tabula Rosa. How would I?
 * [13:57:27] <Kodia> IS there a link? A list? No.
 * [13:57:40] <Kodia> As me, I could figure it out being on a big wiki in gaming.
 * [13:57:43] <PanSola> Kodia: you mean a link about TR on EQ2i?
 * [13:57:45] <Kodia> But, what about others.
 * [13:57:49] <Kodia> No
 * [13:57:53] <Sky2042> Haledire: nice extension.
 * [13:57:58] <Kirkburn> http://starter.wikia.com/wiki/Wikia_starter_pages:Community_Portal ... these are links anyone can help with
 * [13:58:01] <Kodia> I mean if I as an editor visit TR, or Halo, or whatever
 * [13:58:04] <Sky2042> didn't understand the first time what it was.
 * [13:58:12] <Kodia> No kirkburn, that'snot what i mean
 * [13:58:22] <Kodia> I mean on your wiki of choice in particular.
 * [13:58:25] * Quits: theonyx_
 * [13:58:47] <Kirkburn> Well, yeah, my point is that wikis should have such pages, which is why I made that for new wikis
 * [13:59:15] <Kodia> Exactly. Which is why Im bringing it up here in gaming since you brought it up to me privately
 * [13:59:31] <Kodia> EQ2i will have such a page. (When I can write it down)
 * [13:59:39] <Kirkburn> All new Wikia wikis get that page, and I'm still working on rolling such stuff across older wikis - I leave larger ones alone though, due to established communities
 * [13:59:42] <Kodia> I think other wikis in the gaming hub would benefit
 * [14:00:05] <Kirkburn> Absolutely
 * [14:00:14] <Kodia> ah Ok well,that part you didn't tell me about . :)
 * [14:00:18] <Kirkburn> Gonna write that down on my todo for this week
 * [14:00:24] <Charitwo> sorry, i'm really involved with a few things atm though. This arised yesterday when I asked if there was anything on Eq2i that could be done by someone who hasn't played the game
 * [14:00:30] <Kirkburn> heh
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 * [14:00:48] <Kodia> And there are
 * [14:00:56] <Kodia> I'm sure there are for other wikis too. :)
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 * [14:02:57] <PanSola> oh yeah random announcement: dynastywarriors.wikia.com has absorbed samuraiwarriors.wikia and orochiwarriors.wikia
 * [14:03:09] <PanSola> and will turn into either a wiki for all Warriors franchises from Koei
 * [14:03:14] <PanSola> or turn into a general Koei wiki
 * [14:05:32] <Kodia> THanks Pan
 * [14:06:28] <PanSola> np
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 * [14:15:30] <Kirkburn|afk> Phil_E, sorry to bring back the topic - I'm agreeing with you more about the overwhelming-ness now. It does need cutting down.
 * [14:15:44] <Phil_E> what?
 * [14:15:47] <Phil_E> oh
 * [14:15:50] <Kirkburn|afk> :)
 * [14:16:11] <Phil_E> heh, i'm glad you see my point :)
 * [14:16:19] <Kirkburn|afk> heh
 * [14:16:31] <PanSola> hehe
 * [14:16:48] <PanSola> maybe each wiki can customze how much overwhelming-ness they want d-:
 * [14:17:09] <PanSola> different communities do have different needs
 * [14:17:38] <Kirkburn|afk> Yeah