Admin Forum:An awkward question...

This is a question that is somewhat awkward to ask. Over the past few weeks/months quite a few editors have expressed problems with one of other administrators on the wiki that I am a bureaucrat for. The reasons are varied, ranging from rudeness, unneutrality to incompetence. I am not suggesting that these are true (to a certain extent some of them are, and I have to say that the first one most definitely is - I have seen it myself on our chatroom whilst I have been loitering as "Timeoin|Away" on IRC. (Which may just be me, but I believe that its important to be very very friendly with all editors, to encourage all new members, etc). There are a few other minor things, such as removing someone's well-made stub template to turn it into one used by a previous wiki (OblivioWiki, before it merged), but that doesnt come into it very much. Anyways - the awkward question is ... what exactly should I do about this? Quite a few of the editors on my wiki express the theory that the person in question "isnt really admin material", and I am inclined to agree with them, however ... I am not sure what to do about this? I have never been in that situation before. What do I do? Should I keep them as admin? Should I remove them? Does anyone have any suggestions? It would be greatly appreciated! Timeoin•Say G'Day•View my work•Skyrim To-Do List 21:58, November 30, 2011 (UTC)
 * I'm an administrator on the same wiki, and I'd just like to put in my side of things. The situation with this "administrator" has become unbearable, making at least my experience on the wiki unbearable; His editing skills are next to nothing, his grammar is even worse, and his community skills are absolutely nonexistent. A good friend of mine from another wiki also previously had an administrator position at the wiki we're talking about, and was forced to leave by the idiocy of this user, and a few others in particular.
 * I raised the issue with Timeoin again yesterday, and it seems the gravity of the situation has finally hit him, (no offence, Tim). I look forward to hearing your views also. Elchzard  (Talking is fun) 22:06, November 30, 2011 (UTC)
 * Create a discussion about the user's rights. If the discussion ends with the community consensus being that he should have them removed, then remove them. If it's murky or split 50/50, use your best judgement, or don't do anything at all. That way, everyone gets a chance to give their opinion, so if you do take action, you know it's what everyone wants.
 * Hey Timeoin, To build off of what Moncho is saying: create a discussion via a forum for sure. A very important thing to keep in mind though is &mdash; it's really imperative to be constructive and positive within this discussion. Perhaps this person does not know that they are acting this way, or are actually unaware of how to be a good admin. So it's good to give the admin an opportunity to address how they have acted and have the opportunity to change. Another thing to keep in mind is you are talking to the community as a whole, it's good to set a tone of discussion as opposed to an area for the community to air grievances and get a mob mentality going. And finally, it is awkward but you did the right thing by asking here. It's always good to get feedback when you are uncertain, plus you handled it in a super positive, delicate way. All good stuff! Good luck! --Meighan http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb32675/wikia/images/e/e9/WikiaStaff.png (help forum | blog) 23:09, November 30, 2011 (UTC)
 * Okay, following your suggestions, I have posted it on the community discussion section here :) Thank you all for your help! Timeoin•Say G'Day•View my work•Skyrim To-Do List 23:33, November 30, 2011 (UTC)


 * This is a tough situation. I read over some of the feedback and I have some suggestions, since we've encountered situations like this in the past at WoWWiki (although the outcomes weren't always to my liking). After gathering feedback from the community, you really should take the decision-making discussion among the admins into a more private forum so they can be more honest and a consensus or agreed upon announcement can be formulated.
 * Demoting an admin should not be considered a huge decision, since being and admin is a privilege, not a right. Admin powers can easily be abused and good editors can do 95% of what they need to do without admin powers.
 * An even harder task is to decide to permaban what might otherwise be considered a productive and prolific editor (which I have had to do). Just try to be fair and remember that editing a wiki is not the most important thing in life, even if you dedicate alot of time to it. -- Fandyllic (talk &middot; contr) 19 Dec 2011 6:31 PM Pacific