Forum:2008 Mar 23 IRC meeting transcript

The following is a semi-sanitized version of the IRC chat transcript. All times listed are based in PST (California etc).


 * [13:01:19]  ok let's get started
 * [13:01:25]  everyone introduce yourselves
 * [13:01:29]  Hi
 * [13:01:34]  Yo!
 * [13:01:38]  i am WHitehwk from Army of Two wikia
 * [13:01:46]  Admin and Burecrat
 * [13:01:49]  I am SPARTAN-984 from Halopedia wikia.
 * [13:01:55]  I am from many wikis, like Illogicopedia
 * [13:01:55] * PanSola is from GuildWiki (Guild Wars) and is an admin there
 * [13:02:01]  I created the driv3r wiki
 * [13:02:06] * SomeColorMage is one of the only two editors of the Need for Speed Wiki
 * [13:02:07]  I adopted the SimCity wiki
 * [13:02:09]  Resident newbie with 10 something friends ranked Private coming up to Corporal in the UNSC of Wikia.
 * [13:02:23]  And I'm waiting to nadopt the Need for Speed wiki along with SCM
 * [13:02:32]  *adopt
 * [13:02:37]  I am Kevin-020 from RSWiki, Halopedia, and Exodus212 from Uncyclopedia
 * [13:02:54]  Airsoft wikia,Army of Two and Soon to be Admin of Mass Effect
 * [13:03:05]  I am also known as SPARTAN-983 on Halofanon.
 * [13:03:13] <Ryan_Taylor> I am an admin on many wikia, in my mind ;)
 * [13:03:21] <Jack_Phoenix> ohai, is this the cab^H^H^H err, meeting? ;-)
 * [13:03:24] <CovieKiller> 9.9
 * [13:03:37] <SomeColorMage> 0_0
 * [13:03:56] <CovieKiller> :| What?
 * [13:03:56] * RelentlessRogue chuckles.
 * [13:03:59] I am Charitwo, sysop of FFXIclopedia and random editor of various gaming wikis
 * [13:04:01] lol
 * [13:04:06] <RelentlessRogue> A difficult job moderating this crowd, eh, PanSola? :P
 * [13:04:11] <CovieKiller> Alright.
 * [13:04:21] <PanSola> RR: have you self-introed yet? d-:
 * [13:04:27] <CovieKiller> No he has not.
 * [13:04:34] <RelentlessRogue> Not yet, Pan.
 * [13:04:37] CovieKiller: no yellow text, my eyes o.o
 * [13:04:41] <Ryan_Taylor> I for some reason cannot stand for more than a minute using a skin other than monobook
 * [13:04:41] <CovieKiller> Alright.
 * [13:04:45] <RelentlessRogue> I don't feel compelled to, lol.
 * [13:04:51] * Simonrjh is in your wiki, conflicting your edits
 * [13:04:55] <RelentlessRogue> Proceed, Pan.
 * [13:05:02] * PanSola bites RR
 * [13:05:08] <SomeColorMage> nice
 * [13:05:10] <Simonrjh> RelentlessRogue: but how do we know who you are?
 * [13:05:13] <PanSola> Ryan_Taylor: you can't even stand Monaco for a minute?
 * [13:05:19] <RelentlessRogue> I'm RR, lowly editor.
 * [13:05:22] <Ryan_Taylor> PanSola: nope O_O
 * [13:05:25] <RelentlessRogue> 'Tis all that this situation necessitates.
 * [13:05:26] <Simonrjh> RelentlessRogue: are you that guy on Crackdown Wiki?
 * [13:05:30] <Simonrjh> :P
 * [13:05:31] <RelentlessRogue> To be honest, I think Monaco's alright.
 * [13:05:36] <Ryan_Taylor> I guess I'm used to monobook
 * [13:05:40] <CovieKiller> And a high-level op on Halopedia.
 * [13:05:43] <Kevin-020> RR:You are not lowly!
 * [13:05:47] <Ryan_Taylor> no
 * [13:05:59] <Kevin-020> You are awesome! And an admin!
 * [13:05:59] <PanSola> Ryan_Taylor: are there specific problems you can point out about Monaco that bothers you?
 * [13:06:00] <CovieKiller> Ryan, he said lowly because he does not edit much.
 * [13:06:02] <SomeColorMage> I'm used to Monobook, thanks to Wikipedia, but I like Monaco
 * [13:06:15] <Kevin-020> I use Monaco.
 * [13:06:18] <RelentlessRogue> Some of Monaco's features on HP are getting a bit annoying.
 * [13:06:19] <Ryan_Taylor> PanSola: no, just.., feels strange
 * [13:06:24] <Simonrjh> Monobook FTW
 * [13:06:26] <RelentlessRogue> But I guess it's Wikia's project, so that's just the way
 * [13:06:28] <RelentlessRogue> it'll be.
 * [13:06:33] <PanSola> RR: which features?
 * [13:06:49] <CovieKiller> I liked Halo ever since my best friend showed me Halo 2 two years ago.
 * [13:06:54] <RelentlessRogue> The Quizzes, Picture Games, and Polls
 * [13:06:56] <CovieKiller> Or was it one year?
 * [13:06:56] * Joins: Tesfan
 * [13:06:59] <Ryan_Taylor> I must admit, monaco's a nice skin, especially the beach version
 * [13:07:01] <PanSola> RR: those are not part of monaco
 * [13:07:02] <CovieKiller> Im dying to pleh Halo 3.
 * [13:07:03] <RelentlessRogue> are laden with nonsense, non-Halo related, inappropriatestuff, etc...
 * [13:07:08] <RelentlessRogue> Ahh, affirmative PanSola.
 * [13:07:14] <Kevin-020> Tes!
 * [13:07:15] <RelentlessRogue> My apologies for interrupting your council here. ^^
 * [13:07:19] <PanSola> hi Tesfan
 * [13:07:19] <CovieKiller> Tesfan, PanSola said to do a self-introduction.
 * [13:07:21] RelentlessRogue: those can be, ahem, removed if consensus permits :)
 * [13:07:32] <RelentlessRogue> I think it's in Wikia's best interest if they stay.
 * [13:07:41] <CovieKiller> Okay.
 * [13:07:42] <RelentlessRogue> Only downside is that Halopedia gets trashed and is no longer encyclopediac
 * [13:07:45] * Tesfan is a sysop @ Runescapewiki
 * [13:07:49] <RelentlessRogue> But I think that's only a minor concern. :P
 * [13:07:58] <CovieKiller> Thanks Tesfan.
 * [13:08:02] <CovieKiller> Do we start now>
 * [13:08:05] <WH> RelentlessRogue: Halopedia is been like that since the new skin.
 * [13:08:06] <SomeColorMage> Bleh! Runescape
 * [13:08:08] <Tesfan> no prob
 * [13:08:10] <WH> where you been?
 * [13:08:17] <CovieKiller> I used to play that.
 * [13:08:23] <CovieKiller> After six weeks I got tired of it.
 * [13:08:33] <Tesfan> I stoped playing it awile ago xD
 * [13:08:35] <WH> i played it
 * [13:08:37] <Tesfan> *awhile
 * [13:08:38] <Ryan_Taylor> i still play it out of borefom
 * [13:08:42] <Ryan_Taylor> *boredom
 * [13:08:44] <WH> 6 seconds and i hated it
 * [13:08:51] <Kevin-020> I play it.
 * [13:08:55] <CovieKiller> Yeah eyah.
 * [13:08:56] <CovieKiller> *yeah.
 * [13:08:58] <SomeColorMage> Never played it, never will
 * [13:09:05] <PanSola> so, aside from monaco and halo new features discussion (which we'll get to later), anyone have any things/issues/questions they want to bringup/share?
 * [13:09:10] <Ryan_Taylor> SCM, you dont want to
 * [13:09:11] <CovieKiller> Uh.
 * [13:09:19] * Joins: AAA^
 * [13:09:20] <CovieKiller> Maybe.
 * [13:09:23] <PanSola> hi AAA^
 * [13:09:26] <Ryan_Taylor> Hmm
 * [13:09:28] <CovieKiller> Yo aaa.
 * [13:09:35] <AAA^> hi
 * [13:09:39] <Kevin-020> AAA^!
 * [13:09:53] <CovieKiller> PanSola: a few people on #halopedia brought this up a few ago.
 * [13:09:54] <Ryan_Taylor> From what I'm seeing Wikia stuff is pretty good now
 * [13:10:04] * Parts: AAA^
 * [13:10:13] <PanSola> CovieKiller: brought what up?
 * [13:10:21] * Joins: Richard1990
 * [13:10:25] <SomeColorMage> Well, Ryan said earlier that we are gonna adopt the Need for Speed Wiki
 * [13:10:27] <CovieKiller> Can you get banned from a channel without getting warned or kicked?
 * [13:10:31] hi Richard
 * [13:10:38] <WH> PanSola: probably the new skin thingy IDK
 * [13:10:45] <PanSola> CovieKiller: that's a per-channel thing
 * [13:10:49] <CovieKiller> I thought so, if you ever did something really bad.
 * [13:10:54] <CovieKiller> Oh. Thanks,
 * [13:10:55] <Ryan_Taylor> yeah
 * [13:11:00] <Ryan_Taylor> I've seen it happen
 * [13:11:09] * Joins: Simonrjh|afk
 * [13:11:11] <CovieKiller> Alright. That answers the question.
 * [13:11:16] * Quits: Simonrjh|afk
 * [13:11:27] <Richard1990> hi guys
 * [13:11:32] * Richard1990 is a Wikia Gaming Helper
 * [13:11:32] <PanSola> hi Richard1990
 * [13:11:32] <RelentlessRogue> ping me if/when HP comes up
 * [13:11:34] <CovieKiller> Hi Richard1990.
 * [13:11:56] * Joins: Simonrjh|afk
 * [13:11:57] <CovieKiller> Erm.
 * [13:11:58] <SomeColorMage> Hi
 * [13:12:00] <CovieKiller> I like games.
 * [13:12:02] <Simonrjh|afk> hello
 * [13:12:08] <PanSola> Richard1990: do you know if Halopedia is staying on that current skin, or if there are plans to eventually shift it to Monaco?
 * [13:12:16] * Quits: Simonrjh
 * [13:12:20] * Simonrjh|afk is now known as Simonrjh
 * [13:12:23] <CovieKiller> I would never switch Halopedia's skin to Monaco!
 * [13:12:26] <CovieKiller> It is fine as it is.
 * [13:12:29] <Ryan_Taylor> nah
 * [13:12:38] <Tesfan> I would =P
 * [13:12:45] <RelentlessRogue> I think it will stick on the current skin.
 * [13:12:48] <CovieKiller> Tesfan.
 * [13:12:52] <RelentlessRogue> DanL and his team have a great interest in it.
 * [13:12:56] <RelentlessRogue> For obvious reasons.
 * [13:13:05] <CovieKiller> Thank god BillK is not in that team.
 * [13:13:08] <Ryan_Taylor> I will NEVER switch my wikis! lol
 * [13:13:12] <CovieKiller> NEVER!
 * [13:13:20] <Tesfan> would switching to Monaco axe polls/quizzes/etc. ?
 * [13:13:31] <WH> yep
 * [13:13:34] <PanSola> Tesfan: no. The features adn the skin are different issues
 * [13:13:38] <Ryan_Taylor> basically yes
 * [13:13:38] <CovieKiller> I would not do that!
 * [13:13:40] <PanSola> independently
 * [13:13:40] <Simonrjh> dan.
 * [13:13:42] <CovieKiller> Still no!
 * [13:13:45] <Simonrjh> *damn >.<
 * [13:13:55] * Joins: MnaNaHEreann
 * [13:13:56] <PanSola> you can axe them without monaco, you can get monaco without axing them
 * [13:13:57] <Tesfan> Covie, you haven't even seen the new skin =P
 * [13:13:59] <PanSola> hi MnaNaHEreann
 * [13:14:01] <CovieKiller> Unless it is that new skin Wookieepedia has where the Search Bar is at the top left side of the page.
 * [13:14:07] <MnaNaHEreann> Hey all :)
 * [13:14:10] <CovieKiller> That would be a cool add-on.
 * [13:14:18] <CovieKiller> Plus features would not be removed.
 * [13:14:28] <CovieKiller> Sure, it might cause a bit of confusion,
 * [13:14:31] <SomeColorMage> mmhmm
 * [13:14:36] <CovieKiller> but people would eventually adjust to it.
 * [13:14:51] <Ryan_Taylor> yeah
 * [13:14:52] * Simonrjh wishes their was a way to allow rollback users to delete inappropriate polls
 * [13:15:00] <PanSola> Right now the halo skin and Monaco *are* quite similar already
 * [13:15:08] <CovieKiller> You can vote it for deletion.
 * [13:15:21] <Ryan_Taylor> and speedy if needed
 * [13:15:26] <CovieKiller> Yeah.
 * [13:15:29] <Tesfan> tbh, I can't find the "flag poll" button =P
 * [13:15:44] <CovieKiller> But then again, as long as it is half or more Halo-related, then it can stay.
 * [13:15:44] * RelentlessRogue snorts.
 * [13:15:48] <RelentlessRogue> It's on the right-hand side.
 * [13:15:50] <CovieKiller> Or Halopedia related./
 * [13:15:51] * MnaNaHEreann snores
 * [13:15:51] <RelentlessRogue> Underneath the box, Tesfan.
 * [13:15:51] <Ryan_Taylor> idea: visible flag poll button ;)
 * [13:16:01] * SomeColorMage snorts and snores
 * [13:16:11] <CovieKiller> lol
 * [13:16:17] <CovieKiller> Yeah.
 * [13:16:22] * Joins: sannse
 * [13:16:25] <CovieKiller> That would be a good idea.
 * [13:16:26] <PanSola> hi sannse
 * [13:16:31] <CovieKiller> A very good idea Ryan.
 * [13:16:40] hey, only half here, I'm at the airport :)
 * [13:16:43] <Ryan_Taylor> ^_^
 * [13:16:47] <CovieKiller> Trolls would come on and delete stuff like crazy.
 * [13:16:59] <Tesfan> sannse! =D
 * [13:17:08] * Quits: WH
 * [13:17:15] <CovieKiller> sannse, self-intro.
 * [13:17:37] <CovieKiller> Man I wish the Internet in the Sky would get built soon.
 * [13:17:37] * RelentlessRogue chuckles.
 * [13:17:42] <SomeColorMage> sannse doesn't need a self-intro
 * [13:17:44] <RelentlessRogue> Anyways, I think a clarification needs to be made
 * [13:17:47] <CovieKiller> Alright.
 * [13:17:49] <RelentlessRogue> for the polls and whatever feature
 * [13:17:55] CovieKiller: from me? I'm one of the Wikia Community team :)
 * [13:17:56] <RelentlessRogue> if Tesfan can't find them, they should probably be more visible
 * [13:17:59] <CovieKiller> Oh.
 * [13:18:02] <CovieKiller> Thats good.
 * [13:18:04] <Tesfan> heh
 * [13:18:10] <RelentlessRogue> Such modesty, sannse ^^
 * [13:18:15] <CovieKiller> Who started Wikia?
 * [13:18:28] <CovieKiller> Did BillK start Wikia?
 * [13:18:29] <SomeColorMage> A few people
 * [13:18:30] <Ryan_Taylor> Jimbo wales and angela
 * [13:18:38] <CovieKiller> Hey, I know Jimbo!
 * [13:18:44] <Ryan_Taylor> yep :)
 * [13:18:46] <CovieKiller> He was the guy who made Wikipedia!
 * [13:18:52] <GlacierWolf> Sorry I'm late! Had to take an important call.
 * [13:18:54] <SomeColorMage> yep
 * [13:18:56] <CovieKiller> Alright;.
 * [13:19:07] <Ryan_Taylor> and obviously wikipedia wasnt enough for him lol :D
 * [13:19:09] <PanSola> Hmm, I can't find the flag-poll option on Halopedia too
 * [13:19:12] <PanSola> hi GlacierWolf
 * [13:19:25] * Joins: Pigeonman
 * [13:19:27] <GlacierWolf> Hi PanSola.
 * [13:19:32] <PanSola> hi Pigeonman
 * [13:19:32] <CovieKiller> Pigeonman is Jubinator.
 * [13:19:39] * Joins: Sgt_Johnson
 * [13:19:40] hi Pigeonman
 * [13:19:44] <PanSola> wb Johnson
 * [13:19:44] hi Sgt_Johnson
 * [13:19:47] <Simonrjh> and Sgt_Johnson is Sgt_Johnson
 * [13:19:48] <Sgt_Johnson> I missed the start again!
 * [13:19:49] <Sgt_Johnson> >_<
 * [13:19:51] <CovieKiller> Johnson was the first friend I made on this wiki.
 * [13:19:52] <Tesfan> yeah, under the box I see " Main Page About  Special Pages  Help  Terms of Use  Advertise  "
 * [13:19:54] <Pigeonman> uh
 * [13:19:59] <Tesfan> can't find flag button =P
 * [13:20:01] Sgt_Johnson: this time every week 20 minutes ago :)
 * [13:20:02] <Simonrjh> CovieKiller: aw, cute
 * [13:20:02] * Parts: Pigeonman
 * [13:20:11] <CovieKiller> Yeah. Yeah.
 * [13:20:17] * Sgt_Johnson is a rollback user at halopedia and an admin at Acewiki and Army of TWo
 * [13:20:17] <SomeColorMage> awwww
 * [13:20:26] <GlacierWolf> Tesfan: This is happening on Halo Wiki, correct?
 * [13:20:27] <CovieKiller> I really do not want to take out a Needler.
 * [13:20:30] <Tesfan> yeah
 * [13:20:31] <CovieKiller> Np.
 * [13:20:32] <Simonrjh> Sgt_Johnson: its too late for introductions :P
 * [13:20:41] <Sgt_Johnson> What is happening at Halopedia?
 * [13:20:44] <CovieKiller> GW: it happened on Halopedia,
 * [13:20:44] <Tesfan> http://halo.wikia.com/wiki/Special:RandomPoll
 * [13:20:47] <CovieKiller> 'Not much.
 * [13:20:49] <Sgt_Johnson> The failure of new features
 * [13:20:50] <Sgt_Johnson> ?
 * [13:20:59] <CovieKiller> Ouch.
 * [13:21:02] <Kevin-020> AJ!!!
 * [13:21:05] <Tesfan> no it's me not being able to find the flag poll feature xD
 * [13:21:22] <Sgt_Johnson> ah
 * [13:21:37] ah, yes. i cannot see the report poll option either
 * [13:21:43] <GlacierWolf> Nor can I.
 * [13:21:46] <PanSola> on the other hand, it looks editable
 * [13:21:48] <SomeColorMage> I don't see it either
 * [13:21:59] <Ryan_Taylor> I dont see it! i didnt look
 * [13:22:07] <Tesfan> looks are deceiving =P
 * [13:22:10] <PanSola> Quizzes can't be edited but can be flagged
 * [13:22:18] <PanSola> Polls can't be flagged, but can be edited
 * [13:22:31] <RelentlessRogue> Poll editing doesn't seem to work for me.
 * [13:22:33] <Tesfan> nah, if you try to edit a poll, it says "Whoops! nvalid Access"
 * [13:22:34] <GlacierWolf> PanSola: Nope, when you click edit, it says Invalid Access.
 * [13:22:43] <PanSola> )-:
 * [13:22:45] * Joins: Kwarsh
 * [13:22:53] <Ryan_Taylor> hi
 * [13:22:55] <CovieKiller> Kwarsh is also known as KillerCRS.
 * [13:22:56] * Joins: konoko
 * [13:22:58] * Kwarsh peeks in his head
 * [13:23:03] * Kwarsh is now known as KillerCRS
 * [13:23:28] <SomeColorMage> So, uh now what?
 * [13:23:28] <Sgt_Johnson> Eh... no issues for me.
 * [13:23:37] <CovieKiller> None for me.
 * [13:23:40] <Sgt_Johnson> Halopedia is the only thing that bugs me, new features and all.
 * [13:23:40] <Tesfan> also, http://halo.wikia.com/wiki/Forum:Halopedia_Forums seems to be br0ken
 * [13:23:47] <Tesfan> might be best to just use the new fourms
 * [13:24:24] <GlacierWolf> I wouldn't be surprised. The PhpForums are a little buggy.
 * [13:24:25] <PanSola> Well, some features currently on Halopedia will be added to other Wikia wikis (under monaco skin, not the new halo skin)
 * [13:24:58] <SomeColorMage> I like the Halo skin
 * [13:24:59] <PanSola> so I am interested in studying the evolution of Halopedia's social dynamics
 * [13:25:06] <Sgt_Johnson> I hate it <_<
 * [13:25:10] <Sgt_Johnson> PanSola: Evolution?
 * [13:25:13] <CovieKiller> It went ALL social ever since the new skin.
 * [13:25:21] <Ryan_Taylor> yeah
 * [13:25:23] * RelentlessRogue snorts.
 * [13:25:27] <RelentlessRogue> Evolution of Halopedia's social dynamics?
 * [13:25:29] <RelentlessRogue> A lot more users.
 * [13:25:30] <Ryan_Taylor> its now like myspace
 * [13:25:33] <RelentlessRogue> According to DanL, a lot more edits.
 * [13:25:35] <Ryan_Taylor> HaloSpace
 * [13:25:40] <KillerCRS> Also, point whores.
 * [13:25:41] <GlacierWolf> lol
 * [13:25:42] <KillerCRS> Loads of them.
 * [13:25:43] <Sgt_Johnson> Here it is: New features = All social, and no editing. Also, more users came, but, the users never edit, and are about 10.1 years of age.
 * [13:25:43] <RelentlessRogue> Only problem is that article quality has sunken.
 * [13:25:49] <CovieKiller> Yeah.
 * [13:25:51] <RelentlessRogue> No, they edit some.
 * [13:25:54] <RelentlessRogue> Which is the crux of the problem.
 * [13:25:57] <Sgt_Johnson> Yeah, crap edits.
 * [13:25:59] <CovieKiller> Johnson stop pointing me out.
 * [13:26:02] <KillerCRS> Their edits are sub-par,
 * [13:26:03] <RelentlessRogue> We used to have a 'seasoned' community of sorts that made good contributions.
 * [13:26:04] <KillerCRS> like mine :D
 * [13:26:08] <Sgt_Johnson> CovieKiller: I'm not.
 * [13:26:10] <RelentlessRogue> The problem is now that the community is greatly expanded
 * [13:26:11] <CovieKiller> Oh.
 * [13:26:14] <RelentlessRogue> but isn't as experienced
 * [13:26:18] <RelentlessRogue> the other Halopedians can attest
 * [13:26:18] <Tesfan> http://halo.wikia.com/wiki/Poll:What_feature_of_Halopedia_do_you_use/like_the_most%3F
 * [13:26:23] <RelentlessRogue> Good to meet you, Glacier Wolf.
 * [13:26:28] <RelentlessRogue> Don't think we've met in "person" yet.
 * [13:26:47] <Ryan_Taylor> if you axed the sdocial features youd have people complaining heaps
 * [13:26:50] * KillerCRS remembers when the community was really small
 * [13:26:51] <GlacierWolf> RelentlessRogue: Nice to meet you as well.
 * [13:26:52] <Ryan_Taylor> *socisl
 * [13:27:00] <CovieKiller> Most like the fun stuff.
 * [13:27:03] <Ryan_Taylor> *social O_o
 * [13:27:05] <Sgt_Johnson> KillerCRS: The active community a few months ago was about... 80
 * [13:27:17] <Sgt_Johnson> I think...
 * [13:27:20] <CovieKiller> Now the active community is... 500+.
 * [13:27:24] <KillerCRS> 14 months ago it was about 30 :D
 * [13:27:29] <SomeColorMage> But if you don't axe them, the quality of your wiki will start declining
 * [13:27:29] Ryan_Taylor: what if viewing the social features was made...optional
 * [13:27:30] <RelentlessRogue> When I joined...
 * [13:27:33] <RelentlessRogue> The active community was...
 * [13:27:37] <RelentlessRogue> ED, Dragonclaws, Ryan, and myself :P
 * [13:27:41] <CovieKiller> Four.
 * [13:27:44] <Ryan_Taylor> kirby: thats a good ideas
 * [13:27:46] <Ryan_Taylor> *idea
 * [13:27:50] <Sgt_Johnson> When I joined active community was about... 100
 * [13:27:52] <KillerCRS> And then, and then Caboose, GPT and Dount came
 * [13:27:56] <KillerCRS> Followed by Rot
 * [13:27:59] <KillerCRS> and then me
 * [13:28:05] <KillerCRS> And Esemono was there somewhere
 * [13:28:13] <Sgt_Johnson> I came in late, and Halopedia has never been the same >:
 * [13:28:13] <KillerCRS> **Donut
 * [13:28:15] <Sgt_Johnson> o.0
 * [13:28:25] <CovieKiller> How many times do I have to say I DO NOT HAVE AN XBOX360!
 * [13:28:29] <GlacierWolf> Isn't Wikia planning on adding the social tools to all wikis soon? If that is the case, multiply the problem on Halo Wiki times 5,900 wikis.
 * [13:28:31] <PanSola> so, do you think there can be a way on Halopedia to help attracting the new ppl to become experienced faster?
 * [13:28:40] <CovieKiller> Yeah.
 * [13:28:48] <Sgt_Johnson> Increase the points for editing.
 * [13:28:49] <SomeColorMage> CRAP
 * [13:28:50] <Sgt_Johnson> <_<
 * [13:28:51] <CovieKiller> We just don't know it.,
 * [13:28:57] <Tesfan> I'l just throw this out http://wikistats.wikia.com/wikistats/EN/TablesWikiaHALO.htm
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 * [13:29:10] <Simonrjh> i havent looked at that for a while
 * [13:29:25] <Sgt_Johnson> Ok, if you look at the points, they can get 5,000 for bringing in a new user.
 * [13:29:28] <Simonrjh> oh noes i've gone down a place :/
 * [13:29:29] <Ryan_Taylor> I dont want those social tools coming anywhere near my (sorry, cant find a better word :P ) wikis
 * [13:29:31] <Sgt_Johnson> You only get 50 for editing mainspace.
 * [13:29:34] <SomeColorMage> The NFSWiki only has 2 useful editors. If you add the social stuff, we'll be overrun by n00bs
 * [13:29:44] <Ryan_Taylor> yeah
 * [13:29:48] <Sgt_Johnson> Oh, sweet, I went up in the rankings.
 * [13:29:48] <Sgt_Johnson> XD
 * [13:29:58] <Ryan_Taylor> i thought a userpage was enough of a docial feature
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 * [13:30:04] <Ryan_Taylor> *social
 * [13:30:12] * CovieKiller sometimes hates laptops
 * [13:30:19] <Ryan_Taylor> I hate having userpages though
 * [13:30:37] <Sgt_Johnson> The userpage used to be my most editted thing.
 * [13:30:37] <SomeColorMage> What's wrong with userpages?
 * [13:30:37] <Tesfan> The number of users that made more then 5 edits went from 156 to 472 in 2 months o_O
 * [13:30:46] <KillerCRS> An IP on Halopedia has 618 edits...
 * [13:30:46] <CovieKiller> Woah.
 * [13:30:48] <Tesfan> *more then 5 edits a month
 * [13:30:50] <KillerCRS> Holy crap
 * [13:30:53] <Ryan_Taylor> I just dont use them
 * [13:30:54] <GlacierWolf> Suggestion: What if Halo removed all of the social tools, except for the profile and givegift?
 * [13:30:55] <Simonrjh> i hate the friend/foe system. Whatever happened to custom made userboxes?
 * [13:31:00] <PanSola> SCM: well, the hope would be many of those n00bs would learn and turn into additional useful editors
 * [13:31:05] <Ryan_Taylor> GlacierWolf: yes
 * [13:31:08] <Simonrjh> GlacierWolf: gifts suck
 * [13:31:15] <Sgt_Johnson> Simonrjh: They're still there, but only by the experienced users.
 * [13:31:16] <CovieKiller> GW: Then nobody would come here.
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 * [13:31:23] <Jack_Phoenix> Social tools are really nice
 * [13:31:23] <Tesfan> I kinda think it would be nice to take away points if a comment was downrated =P
 * [13:31:29] <Jack_Phoenix> but perhaps not on a wiki like Halopedia
 * [13:31:36] <CovieKiller> Duh.
 * [13:31:36] <Ryan_Taylor> yeah
 * [13:31:37] <Simonrjh> Sgt_Johnson: yeah, they mean more thn a friend request to me, they're more personal
 * [13:31:42] <Sgt_Johnson> Yeah.
 * [13:31:44] <KillerCRS> Halopedia used to be full of fan fiction, too.
 * [13:31:45] <GlacierWolf> New suggestion: leave the social stuff to armchairgm.
 * [13:31:49] <Tesfan> Only problem is you have trolls downrating every comment =P
 * [13:31:57] <KillerCRS> But let's forget that for now >:P
 * [13:32:08] <Sgt_Johnson> Halopedia is full of fan fiction.
 * [13:32:17] <Sgt_Johnson> Oh, and my comments get downrated all the time.
 * [13:32:23] <KillerCRS> It was on a much larger scale back then
 * [13:32:26] <Tesfan> I think Richard talked about how SSMB wiki might use the social features?
 * [13:32:27] <Sgt_Johnson> I think it's because they're too stupid to understand what I'm saying.
 * [13:32:30] <Sgt_Johnson> KillerCRS: IT is on a large scale
 * [13:32:37] <Tesfan> what with all the tounriments they have and stuff
 * [13:32:38] <KillerCRS> Much much larger
 * [13:32:41] <Sgt_Johnson> It's just hidden through polls and other crap'
 * [13:32:45] <SomeColorMage> BTW, is anybody interested in helping on the Need for Speed Wiki?
 * [13:32:52] <Sgt_Johnson> Dude, do you know how many people I've busted for making fan fiction?
 * [13:32:57] <KillerCRS> That's what Halo Fanon was made.
 * [13:33:01] <KillerCRS> **why
 * [13:33:06] <Sgt_Johnson> I tell them that.
 * [13:33:08] <Sgt_Johnson> They don't stop.
 * [13:33:09] <GlacierWolf> I would say yes, but I'm trying to help The parkster with racedriver.wikia
 * [13:33:10] <Sgt_Johnson> they continue
 * [13:33:22] <CovieKiller> Yeah
 * [13:34:06] <PanSola> GlacierWolf: so what do you feel if say some of the features now on Halo comes to racedriver and burnoutparadise ?
 * [13:34:20] <CovieKiller> Uh-oh.
 * [13:34:30] <CovieKiller> And if they spread throughout Wikia?
 * [13:34:34] <PanSola> which ones do you think would be nice on those wikis, and which ones wouldn't?
 * [13:34:42] <Sgt_Johnson> Ok, I seriously believe that most of these new users have not even exited kindergarten.
 * [13:34:43] <Sgt_Johnson> >:[
 * [13:34:45] <Ryan_Taylor> I will fight them off mine
 * [13:34:49] <PanSola> say you ahve the ability to pick-and-choose which ones you like and which ones you don't want
 * [13:35:03] <CovieKiller> Chaos.
 * [13:35:04] <CovieKiller> BRB
 * [13:35:15] <GlacierWolf> Truth is, I recently asked about that on the forums. There wasn't any suppor,t but no objections neither. I wouldn't really mind, but I'd ask the Parkster about it, since he is the founder.
 * [13:35:17] <Sgt_Johnson> Oh, and the search fails now.
 * [13:35:21] <Sgt_Johnson> I try and find an article, I get blogs.
 * [13:35:22] <Sgt_Johnson> >:[
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 * [13:35:33] <GlacierWolf> Damn typos. I meant to say support. >.<
 * [13:36:07] <SomeColorMage> Sgt: Only search the Main namespace
 * [13:36:25] * Sgt_Johnson checks somethin
 * [13:36:45] <Sgt_Johnson> I can't.
 * [13:36:54] <Simonrjh> yes you can
 * [13:36:55] <SomeColorMage> You sure?
 * [13:37:03] <Simonrjh> go to Special:Preferences
 * [13:37:18] <Simonrjh> http://halo.wikia.com/wiki/Special:Preferences
 * [13:37:23] <Sgt_Johnson> I know what it is simon
 * [13:37:42] <SomeColorMage> http://halo.wikia.com/wiki/Special:Search
 * [13:37:52] <Sgt_Johnson> Now why is blog automatically checked
 * [13:38:00] <Simonrjh> uncheck then, silly :/
 * [13:38:11] <Sgt_Johnson> I did.
 * [13:38:17] <Simonrjh> good :D
 * [13:38:21] <Sgt_Johnson> I'm wondering why it is automatically checked for no reason.
 * [13:38:24] <SomeColorMage> Go into your preferences and uncheck Blog
 * [13:38:29] <Sgt_Johnson> I did.
 * [13:38:39] <Tesfan> It would be nice if it was possible to sort the blogs =P
 * [13:38:58] <Tesfan> *sort the blogs into categories
 * [13:38:59] <Sgt_Johnson> It would be nice if the all the new features went away for one day.
 * [13:39:03] <Sgt_Johnson> At least one day.
 * [13:39:24] <SomeColorMage> How about a year?
 * [13:39:25] <Simonrjh> Tesfan: it would be nice to have acid pour onto the authors of some of the blogs :D
 * [13:39:25] <PanSola> so you can measure how many people complain about their absense? d-:
 * [13:39:40] <Sgt_Johnson> Forever would be perfect...
 * [13:39:45] <Ryan_Taylor> yeah
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 * [13:39:57] <Simonrjh> i saw a blog called "The Late Night Halopedia Team". I was scared. Very scared.
 * [13:40:02] <PanSola> so how many people here actually hate teh Sitescoute feature?
 * [13:40:04] <SomeColorMage> Is this all we're gonna talk about today?
 * [13:40:12] <PanSola> and can give me specific reasons why they hate it
 * [13:40:26] <SomeColorMage> What's Sitescoute
 * [13:40:28] <PanSola> SomeColorMage: if you have something you want to bring up, please go ahead
 * [13:40:28] * Simonrjh doesnt know what Site Scout is :/
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 * [13:40:38] <Simonrjh> hello
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 * [13:40:48] sannse sock?
 * [13:40:48] <PanSola> don't complain saying "I hate all hte features" when you haven't checked out all of them )-:
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 * [13:41:06] <Sgt_Johnson> I just want the points to be switched, and to get rid of the rating system.
 * [13:41:10] <Sgt_Johnson> This is halopedia, not youtube.
 * [13:41:18] <Simonrjh> Agreed.
 * [13:41:23] <SomeColorMage> Agreed
 * [13:41:33] not sure how I'm here twice... sorry
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 * [13:41:40] <PanSola> SiteScoute is one of the new features on Halopedia
 * [13:41:45] <PanSola> http://halo.wikia.com/wiki/Special:SiteScout
 * [13:41:50] <PanSola> real-time updating
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 * [13:42:18] <SomeColorMage> Real-time, you say?
 * [13:42:27] <PanSola> supposedly
 * [13:42:34] <PanSola> maybe a few seconds of lag
 * [13:42:41] <SomeColorMage> So I wouldn't have to keep my mouse on Refresh all the time?
 * [13:42:52] <Simonrjh> PanSola: so is it constantly refreshing?
 * [13:42:54] <PanSola> SomeColorMage: that's part of the idea
 * [13:42:59] <PanSola> Simonrjh: on intervals I believe
 * [13:43:06] <PanSola> or, when something happens
 * [13:43:08] <Simonrjh> oh ok
 * [13:43:10] <PanSola> not entirely sure
 * [13:43:16] <CovieKiller> back
 * [13:43:22] <PanSola> you can open a new window, try an edit, and see what happens (-:
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 * [13:43:46] <Simonrjh> oh, ffs, there's another "who is most hot" in the picture game >:[
 * [13:43:46] * GlacierWolf wonders what is the next new thing on Halopedia
 * [13:43:54] * War_Of_Pants is now known as Churchreborn
 * [13:44:06] <SomeColorMage> I wouldn't mind that on other Wikis
 * [13:44:09] <CovieKiller> God damn those people!
 * [13:44:29] <Simonrjh> GlacierWolf: probably some sort of backlash where all the older users fight the new ones
 * [13:44:29] <SomeColorMage> If you don't like them, boot them
 * [13:44:31] <PanSola> SomeColorMage: cool. Glad to see you think at least one new feature on Halopedia is not bad (-:
 * [13:44:52] <GlacierWolf> I wouldn't be surprised if that did come next.
 * [13:44:57] <Simonrjh> is SomeColorMage even on Halopedia?
 * [13:45:07] <CovieKiller> I don't know,
 * [13:45:11] <Sgt_Johnson> No, these pictures are of video game characters.
 * [13:45:16] <CovieKiller> Lemme check if SomeColorMage is a user.
 * [13:45:21] <Sgt_Johnson> One picture we found was of a naked fat woman holding a helmet.
 * [13:45:21] <SomeColorMage> No, but I do skim every wiki once in a while
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 * [13:45:23] <Sgt_Johnson> >:[
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 * [13:45:31] <Incendiary> Hello.
 * [13:45:32] <PanSola> hi Incendiary
 * [13:45:37] <CovieKiller> And Incendiary...
 * [13:45:37] <Whitehwk> >:[?
 * [13:45:39] <Simonrjh> Sgt_Johnson: no, the one i'm looking at is Cortana and some Asian girl
 * [13:45:42] <CovieKiller> Well, he sets fire a lot.
 * [13:45:46] <Sgt_Johnson> oh... another one
 * [13:45:47] <Sgt_Johnson> >_<
 * [13:45:48] * CovieKiller sets Incendiary on fire
 * [13:45:53] <Sgt_Johnson> Yeah, new breakout of porn on Halopedia to.
 * [13:45:55] <SomeColorMage> And every user is automatically registered to every Wikia, I believe
 * [13:45:56] <CovieKiller> And it does not hurt.
 * [13:46:16] <Simonrjh> SomeColorMage: ok, sorry if i was a bit brash :)
 * [13:46:29] <SomeColorMage> That's OK
 * [13:46:32] <PanSola> so, aside from boosting points for edits (and maybe dropping points for inviting ppl),
 * [13:46:36] <Incendiary> http://Whitehwk.youaremighty.com:80/
 * [13:46:40] <GlacierWolf> SomeColorMage: Except Memory Alpha, staff.wikia, and Uncyclopedia (I believe that's it)
 * [13:46:50] <Simonrjh> Incendiary: dont post that on here please
 * [13:46:51] <PanSola> what do you think can help the new influx of users to become experienced editors?
 * [13:46:52] <CovieKiller> WOOHOO! Russian Reversal!
 * [13:46:57] <Whitehwk> Incediary, WTH is that?
 * [13:46:57] <Incendiary> ok sorry
 * [13:47:07] <CovieKiller> Uh. I dont know really.
 * [13:47:07] <SomeColorMage> GlacierWolf: And FFXIclopedia
 * [13:47:09] <CovieKiller> Lemme think.
 * [13:47:11] <Sgt_Johnson> Help them?
 * [13:47:12] <Simonrjh> PanSola: convince them to edit instead of socialising
 * [13:47:14] <Sgt_Johnson> I have an idea.
 * [13:47:19] <Sgt_Johnson> Put them through school.
 * [13:47:19] <CovieKiller> But how?
 * [13:47:39] <Sgt_Johnson> Let them take an English class... <_<
 * [13:48:00] <SomeColorMage> XD
 * [13:48:03] <Ryan_Taylor> simply remove all even mildly social features
 * [13:48:04] <Simonrjh> CovieKiller: L33T = automatic 1 week ban :D
 * [13:48:17] <CovieKiller> Yeah.
 * [13:48:19] <CovieKiller> It does.
 * [13:48:20] <Sgt_Johnson> Simply remove all the new features.
 * [13:48:26] <PanSola> hmm, what would you say is the average/medium age of the player base of Halo 3?
 * [13:48:30] <CovieKiller> I agree with Johnson.
 * [13:48:32] <Simonrjh> remove gifts, foes and Ratings
 * [13:48:36] <Sgt_Johnson> 10
 * [13:48:37] <Ryan_Taylor> Remove all the social features
 * [13:48:39] <Sgt_Johnson> Pansola: 10
 * [13:48:49] <Sgt_Johnson> I firmly believe that half of these kids are under the age of 11.
 * [13:48:51] <Simonrjh> PanSola: well, the game is 16+, but i'd say the average age would be about 14
 * [13:48:55] <PanSola> <Simonrjh> remove gifts, foes and Ratings <- that would include sitescoute too
 * [13:48:56] <GlacierWolf> PanSola: 10-15
 * [13:49:10] <Simonrjh> PanSola: hmm...compromise of that, then?
 * [13:49:16] <PanSola> note the difference in the question "Ppl playing Halo 3" vs "Users of Halopedia"
 * [13:49:29] <Simonrjh> PanSola: yes, understood
 * [13:49:31] <CovieKiller> If we are going to delete stuff, then delete the quizzes, polls, picture games, Foes and Ratings.
 * [13:49:33] <PanSola> (-:
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 * [13:49:36] <Simonrjh> Halo 3 = 14, halopedia = 16
 * [13:49:39] hiya Markie_
 * [13:49:43] <PanSola> CovieKiller: thanks for being specific (-:
 * [13:49:46] <CovieKiller> Not the Gofts.
 * [13:49:48] <CovieKiller> Oops.
 * [13:49:51] <CovieKiller> Not the Gifts.
 * [13:49:59] <Simonrjh> No, dlete the gifts
 * [13:50:06] <CovieKiller> Ryan_Taylor: 0.
 * [13:50:07] <Markie_> arg
 * [13:50:08] <Markie_> hello
 * [13:50:10] <Simonrjh> We used to send personal awards, which was better
 * [13:50:13] <SomeColorMage> Delete the bad users
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 * [13:50:28] <CovieKiller> If you deleted everything social then people would not come and then they would start to leave.
 * [13:50:29] <Sgt_Johnson> That means I would be gone!
 * [13:50:30] <Simonrjh> SomeColorMage: we're trying, but there are so many
 * [13:50:41] <PanSola> so do you think we can expect the problems faced by Halopedia to be not as bad on wikis whose games' actual player base has an older average age?
 * [13:50:51] <Sgt_Johnson> Yeah, pretty much PanSola.
 * [13:51:00] <GlacierWolf> I can agree with that.
 * [13:51:03] <CovieKiller> I accidentally created an account for Halo Fanon that ended up on Halopedia.
 * [13:51:14] <CovieKiller> Can you delete User:SPARTAN-983?
 * [13:51:17] <Simonrjh> keep polls and quizzes, but not picture games
 * [13:51:22] <Sgt_Johnson> CovieKiller: When you register, you are all over wikia.
 * [13:51:26] <CovieKiller> Oh.
 * [13:51:28] <CovieKiller> Darn.
 * [13:51:30] <Sgt_Johnson> No, get rid of polls and quizzes
 * [13:51:36] <SomeColorMage> Polls are allright
 * [13:51:40] <CovieKiller> Yeah.
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 * [13:51:46] <CovieKiller> Polls are half-half.
 * [13:51:56] <Sgt_Johnson> If you were there when CT was trying to find the bad polls, myself and Jack_Phoenix found a lot.
 * [13:51:57] <CovieKiller> As long as they are Halo-related, polls stay.
 * [13:52:04] <Ryan_Taylor> I basically think if we deleted all social stuff, yes, people would leave, but then new people could come, and you could pretty much start over with the users
 * [13:52:09] <Sgt_Johnson> I found one about Family Guy.
 * [13:52:14] <CovieKiller> Ryan_Taylor: Still 0.
 * [13:52:20] <SomeColorMage> brb
 * [13:52:22] <Sgt_Johnson> I think if we deleted all the new stuff, then it would be better.
 * [13:52:27] <Sgt_Johnson> Way better
 * [13:52:27] <CovieKiller> Great.
 * [13:52:30] <CovieKiller> No!
 * [13:52:36] <CovieKiller> Not ContactHarvest!
 * [13:52:36] <PanSola> Johnson: again becareful of "all"
 * [13:52:44] <Whitehwk> First Strike FTW
 * [13:52:53] <Sgt_Johnson> Ok, not "all".
 * [13:53:04] <CovieKiller> They have to make a First Strike video game.
 * [13:53:05] <Sgt_Johnson> Blogs are pretty cool, even I made a few.
 * [13:53:12] <Sgt_Johnson> But mine actually made sense <_<
 * [13:53:26] <CovieKiller> Yeah.
 * [13:53:33] <PanSola> Ryan_Taylor: when you say "if we delete all social stuff", are you also talking about things like polls and quizzes? (I wouldn't consider those to be "social stuff")
 * [13:53:42] <CovieKiller> Keep the blogs, IRC, friends, gifts, PMs, and waste everything else.
 * [13:53:45] <Ryan_Taylor> PanSola: no
 * [13:53:57] <CovieKiller> Oh thank god.
 * [13:53:59] <PanSola> ok
 * [13:54:06] <CovieKiller> Still no deleting everything social.
 * [13:54:11] <SomeColorMage> back
 * [13:54:12] <Simonrjh> PanSola: to me, boards are pointless as we have talk pages
 * [13:54:17] <CovieKiller> Yes.
 * [13:54:26] <CovieKiller> But Personal Messages are slowly replacing them.
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 * [13:54:27] <PanSola> Simonrjh: boards are being used more than tlak pages though
 * [13:54:35] <Sgt_Johnson> I haven't archived a thing in months
 * [13:54:36] <Sgt_Johnson> :(
 * [13:54:54] <Whitehwk> good 4 u
 * [13:54:57] <Ryan_Taylor> I'm definitely not saying "make everybody in Halopedia not EVER socialise" because every wiki needs socialising with the users or it just wont work out
 * [13:55:03] <CovieKiller> Yeah,
 * [13:55:08] <Simonrjh> oh yeah, definitely
 * [13:55:13] <Sgt_Johnson> Yeah, definitely.
 * [13:55:19] <Sgt_Johnson> We socialized a ton back before the new features.
 * [13:55:21] <Ryan_Taylor> I'm just saying "cut down on the social crap and get on with editing more"
 * [13:55:27] <CovieKiller> If you deleted everything social, then new wikis and some other wikis would fall down and crumble.
 * [13:55:29] <Simonrjh> just remove the surplus "Myspacebook" features
 * [13:55:34] <CovieKiller> Yeah.
 * [13:55:42] <CovieKiller> Who gives a flying frakk about MySpace?
 * [13:55:44] <Sgt_Johnson> And the youtube crap.
 * [13:55:46] <CovieKiller> This is WIKIA.
 * [13:55:49] <CovieKiller> No.
 * [13:55:51] <CovieKiller> Not YouTube.
 * [13:55:59] <Ryan_Taylor> Theres a big difference between "social crap" and "social features"
 * [13:55:59] <Sgt_Johnson> The rating comments?
 * [13:55:59] <CovieKiller> Unless you need it to prove a point.
 * [13:56:02] <Simonrjh> Sgt_Johnson: you mean the ratings?
 * [13:56:05] <Sgt_Johnson> Yeah.
 * [13:56:07] <Simonrjh> ok
 * [13:56:12] <Simonrjh> pointless IMO
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 * [13:56:22] <Ryan_Taylor> Social crap is the myspace/youtube/blog/facebook stuff
 * [13:56:28] <CovieKiller> Yeah.
 * [13:56:32] <CovieKiller> But still have Digg.
 * [13:56:34] <Sgt_Johnson> Thing is, why edit when you get 5000 points for sockpuppeting?
 * [13:56:39] <Whitehwk> Statement: Master, Why are we talking about Halopedia on a Wikia Gaming Chat?
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 * [13:56:42] <CovieKiller> What the:
 * [13:56:46] <CovieKiller> Uh.
 * [13:56:49] <Ryan_Taylor> Social FEATURES are the forums, talk pages, user pages and the chatroom!
 * [13:56:51] <SomeColorMage> Firefox crashed
 * [13:56:53] <CovieKiller> Because almost everyone here is a Halopedia.
 * [13:56:57] <CovieKiller> *Halopedian.
 * [13:56:58] <RelentlessRogue> *n
 * [13:56:58] <PanSola> because some/all those features will be on other wikis too
 * [13:57:00] <RelentlessRogue> heheh
 * [13:57:07] <Whitehwk> Halopedia is mean to me
 * [13:57:09] <GlacierWolf> It seems that we are beating a dead horse by continuing to discuss it. Perhaps we should move on to a different topic.
 * [13:57:18] <SomeColorMage> Yeah
 * [13:57:38] <SomeColorMage> I want to request help editing the need for speed wiki
 * [13:57:43] <PanSola> so, SCM and GlacierWolf: you guys are both working on racing-related wikis
 * [13:57:47] <CovieKiller> I don't kniw.,
 * [13:57:50] <Ryan_Taylor> I am too
 * [13:57:57] <GlacierWolf> Yes.
 * [13:57:58] <CovieKiller> If I can get the Need for Speed games on the comp then I could help.
 * [13:58:09] <Simonrjh> Whitehwk: halopedia is mean to you because you personally attacked someone on its IRC channel
 * [13:58:24] * sannse needs to go check in for her flight - later
 * [13:58:29] * Quits: sannse
 * [13:58:29] <SomeColorMage> Yeah, the NFSWiki only has 2 active editors, and frankly, we need help
 * [13:58:30] <Simonrjh> bye bye
 * [13:58:31] <Whitehwk> And..?
 * [13:58:40] <Simonrjh> Whitehwk: what do you mean, and?
 * [13:58:42] <Sgt_Johnson> Uh... Simon, I don't blame Hawk for doin that...
 * [13:58:50] <GlacierWolf> I have some NFS games. I'll try to help any way I can, but I am also trying to assist in 2 other wikis.
 * [13:58:53] <PanSola> are either of you interested in organizing a list of all racing wikis?
 * [13:58:55] <Sgt_Johnson> People call him dumb, stupid, and a noob in the channel so...
 * [13:59:09] <Ryan_Taylor> I assist in like 10 wikis lol
 * [13:59:12] <SomeColorMage> Well, we could make a racing subcategory
 * [13:59:20] <PanSola> so it helps individual racing wikis link to each other, and potentially increase the flow of wiki contributors?
 * [13:59:21] <Whitehwk> Ajax is nicer to me since i joined Halo Fanon
 * [13:59:27] <Simonrjh> Sgt_Johnson: i know that was unfair, but he swore at an op and insulted the whole channel
 * [13:59:38] <Sgt_Johnson> Simonrjh: Meh.
 * [13:59:44] <Simonrjh> Sgt_Johnson: the 1 user who did insult WH was warned and kicked
 * [13:59:44] <CovieKiller> Bllasae attacked me using the /msg feature.
 * [13:59:46] <SomeColorMage> PanSola: YES, PLEASE
 * [14:00:04] <Sgt_Johnson> Simonrjh: The "1" user?
 * [14:00:04] <CovieKiller> Quote unquote "You're stupid and n00bish, and always will be"
 * [14:00:05] <GlacierWolf> It's a nice idea. I'll help.
 * [14:00:07] <PanSola> SCM: so are you interested in doing the organizing? d-:
 * [14:00:08] <Sgt_Johnson> More like 50... <_<
 * [14:00:10] <CovieKiller> And thats just a small part of it.
 * [14:00:19] <GlacierWolf> If not, I'll organize.
 * [14:00:21] <CovieKiller> Plus, is anyone here on the Wikia team?
 * [14:00:33] <SomeColorMage> Yeah, but not today. I need to finish an assignment
 * [14:00:33] <RelentlessRogue> Organizing for...what?
 * [14:00:38] <PanSola> CovieKiller: what do you mean by "the Wikia team"?
 * [14:00:40] <Simonrjh> Sgt_Johnson: i only remember 1, and you know who i'm thinking of
 * [14:00:43] <GlacierWolf> CovieKiller: being considered for the Wikia team, does that count?
 * [14:00:47] <RelentlessRogue> Who is organizing what?
 * [14:00:49] <GlacierWolf> PanSola: I think he meant community team.
 * [14:00:50] <CovieKiller> No.
 * [14:00:50] <Sgt_Johnson> Simonrjh: I remember about ten...
 * [14:01:00] <PanSola> RR: organizing the racing-related wikis
 * [14:01:02] <CovieKiller> People like Sannse or Wikia Janitors.
 * [14:01:08] <RelentlessRogue> Ah.
 * [14:01:11] CovieKiller: sannse was here for a bit, she's on the Wikia Community Team
 * [14:01:15] <PanSola> so they know of each other's existence more, and can get ppl to go across more
 * [14:01:15] <RelentlessRogue> No experience in organizing racing, unfortunately.
 * [14:01:16] <CovieKiller> Darn,]
 * [14:01:18] <Simonrjh> Sgt_Johnson: anyway, nvm now
 * [14:01:19] <RelentlessRogue> That is, racing at all.
 * [14:01:21] <CovieKiller> Other than sannse.
 * [14:01:24] Jack_Phoenix is a janitor, but he's marked as away
 * [14:01:27] <Sgt_Johnson> h
 * [14:01:30] <CovieKiller> Crap.
 * [14:01:31] <PanSola> CovieKiller: then most ppl in this channel are *not* on the wikia team
 * [14:01:39] <CovieKiller> Aw god damn it!
 * [14:01:43] <Markie996> av is but hes sleeping
 * [14:01:56] CovieKiller: keep this family friendly :)
 * [14:01:57] <SomeColorMage> Is he always on here?
 * [14:01:59] <PanSola> do you need help with something in particular right now??
 * [14:02:01] <CovieKiller> Alright.
 * [14:02:04] <CovieKiller> I
 * [14:02:10] <CovieKiller> I'd like to report a troll.
 * [14:02:23] <CovieKiller> I have only seen him on #fr-wiki.
 * [14:02:26] <PanSola> a cross-wiki troll?
 * [14:02:30] <GlacierWolf> PanSola: Can't helpers block other users?
 * [14:02:38] * Markie996 facepalms
 * [14:02:39] <PanSola> helpers have the ability to, yes
 * [14:02:40] <CovieKiller> Not that I know of.
 * [14:02:49] <CovieKiller> Have you ever heard of a N00B-TASTICAL?
 * [14:03:08] <PanSola> also, problems on IRC is a separate issue
 * [14:03:14] <CovieKiller> oH.
 * [14:03:16] <CovieKiller> Alright.
 * [14:03:20] <PanSola> wikia ppl don't necessarily have power on the irc channels
 * [14:03:27] <SomeColorMage> Who's in charge of the IRC?
 * [14:03:33] <Markie996> heheh
 * [14:03:34] <PanSola> Freenode rules over all
 * [14:03:39] * Markie996 face plamsagain
 * [14:03:40] <PanSola> but individual channels have their own sysops
 * [14:03:43] <CovieKiller> He just comes in, "N00B C0MB03S EVERYONE", calls everyone a "N00B", and then leaves the chanel.
 * [14:04:06] <PanSola> CovieKiller: does he do it repeatedly, or just once?
 * [14:04:18] <SomeColorMage> Who rules over this IRC channel then?
 * [14:04:19] <CovieKiller> I have been present for this kind of thing twice.
 * [14:04:19] <PanSola> if it's just a one-time incident, probably not much point in blocking him or anything
 * [14:04:20] <Markie996> which channel?
 * [14:04:26] <CovieKiller> Here: PanSola.
 * [14:04:34] * Sgt_Johnson is now known as Forerunner
 * [14:04:43] * Forerunner is now known as Sgt_johnson
 * [14:04:47] <PanSola> SomeColorMage: several ppl have op status in this channel
 * [14:04:51] <CovieKiller> I'll try to /whois him next time he comes on and report it.
 * [14:05:00] <Markie996> CovieKiller: which channel?
 * [14:05:05] <CovieKiller> #fr-wiki.
 * [14:05:15] <CovieKiller> The Forgotten Reams IRC Wikia Channe./
 * [14:05:23] <PanSola> CovieKiller: you probalby would want to contact an op of the #fr-wiki
 * [14:05:28] <CovieKiller> Alright.
 * [14:05:38] CovieKiller: /msg chanserv access #fr-wiki list
 * [14:05:42] <CovieKiller> All I do is wait now.
 * [14:05:48] <PanSola> fw190a8 and Zerak-Tul are the ops there
 * [14:05:50] * Quits: Tomsen
 * [14:06:05] <PanSola> none of the Wikia staff/team have powers in that channel
 * [14:06:10] <CovieKiller> Hey, I realize that!
 * [14:06:15] <PanSola> (-:
 * [14:06:21] <CovieKiller> The Focke-Wulf FW190A!
 * [14:06:31] <PanSola> so, GlacierWolf: I'll let you organize the alliance of racing-game wikis (-:
 * [14:06:37] <CovieKiller> Used as a long-range fighter by the Third Reich in WWII.
 * [14:06:46] <PanSola> and SCM
 * [14:06:55] <GlacierWolf> Alliance... you make it sound like a superhero league. :)
 * [14:06:58] <PanSola> haha
 * [14:07:01] <SomeColorMage> We are
 * [14:07:11] <SomeColorMage> ;P
 * [14:07:25] <PanSola> in the monaco skin, you can edit MediaWiki:Monaco-related-communities or something
 * [14:07:41] * Joins: Tesfan_
 * [14:07:47] <PanSola> that (after a few hours for cache to update) affects the links in a "Related communities" box
 * [14:07:51] <CovieKiller> Hi Tesfan.
 * [14:08:04] <SomeColorMage> Okay, I have no idea how to edit that and make it work
 * [14:08:21] <PanSola> just copy the existing format d-:
 * [14:08:28] <GlacierWolf> PanSola: Should I include the wikis in the gaming footer on the main page?
 * [14:08:47] <PanSola> GlacierWolf: I'd say *edit* the gaming footer to add more racing game wikis
 * [14:08:52] <PanSola> instead of teh other way around
 * [14:08:58] <PanSola> (-:
 * [14:09:30] <SomeColorMage> I can't edit MediaWiki:Monaco-related-communities on the NFSWiki
 * [14:09:41] <Ryan_Taylor> he is not ban admin
 * [14:09:41] <GlacierWolf> That's what I meant. (English still isn't that good, despite 3 years of taking classes for it)
 * [14:09:43] <PanSola> SCM: are you not a sysop?
 * [14:09:44] <Ryan_Taylor> *an
 * [14:10:07] <SomeColorMage> No, me and ryan are requesting adoption
 * [14:10:16] <Ryan_Taylor> yeah
 * [14:10:17] <PanSola> SCM: put it on the talk page then, for now
 * [14:10:28] <PanSola> put the proposed changes on the talk page for now
 * [14:10:34] <CovieKiller> PanSola: I put the troll thing on fw190a8's talk page.
 * [14:11:29] <PanSola> Halo-folks, and/or folks interested in the halo new-user issues, please help think about how new users can be helped/educated to become editors (in addition to just changing to point-incentive to get them crank up on edit counts)
 * [14:11:36] <PanSola> CovieKiller: ok
 * [14:11:41] <CovieKiller> Whoa,
 * [14:11:52] <CovieKiller> There was a lot of /s in that last sentence.
 * [14:12:05] <PanSola> I count 2
 * [14:12:06] <PanSola> d-:
 * [14:12:13] <PanSola> anything else anyone want to bring up?
 * [14:12:18] <CovieKiller> Nothing./
 * [14:12:26] <SomeColorMage> So, are we gonna have to make a racing hub?
 * [14:12:38] <CovieKiller> I guess it would be convenient.
 * [14:12:48] <GlacierWolf> I think it is still going to be within the Gaming Hub.
 * [14:12:53] <PanSola> SCM: http://egamia.wikia.com/wiki/Main_Page/draft
 * [14:13:03] <SomeColorMage> Like a sub-hub or something?
 * [14:13:14] <PanSola> Kyle isn't here today, or I would've made him talk about it
 * [14:13:33] kirkburn and uberfuzzy are gone as well
 * [14:13:33] <PanSola> but we are planning to replace teh current one-page gaming hub with a full wiki
 * [14:13:45] <PanSola> that page is the draft of the new "Gaming hub"
 * [14:13:51] <PanSola> and you get a full page on racing
 * [14:13:51] * Joins: WH
 * [14:13:56] <PanSola> feel free to start editing it
 * [14:14:01] <PanSola> for your sub-hub (-:
 * [14:14:05] <CovieKiller> Simon?
 * [14:14:07] <SomeColorMage> So just make the list there?
 * [14:14:12] <CovieKiller> You were kicked in the teeth.
 * [14:14:26] <PanSola> SCM: that's one way of doing it
 * [14:14:27] <PanSola> (-:
 * [14:14:44] <PanSola> and you might want to check out the mroe general discussions on that wiki too
 * [14:14:44] * Quits: SomeColorMage
 * [14:15:09] <GlacierWolf> PanSola: Which wiki? egamia.wikia or gaming.wikia
 * [14:15:11] * Joins: SomeColorMage
 * [14:15:15] <CovieKiller> Damn you to Tartarus, Mozilla FIREFOXXXXXXXXXX!
 * [14:15:16] <PanSola> GW: egamia
 * [14:15:25] <PanSola> SCM: and you might want to check out the mroe general discussions on that wiki too
 * [14:15:29] <GlacierWolf> Thanks!
 * [14:15:29] <SomeColorMage> effin' firefox crashed again
 * [14:15:30] <PanSola> on egmaia
 * [14:15:34] <PanSola> eh, egamia
 * [14:15:40] <SomeColorMage> Damn Mozilla
 * [14:16:46] <CovieKiller> [17:14] <CovieKiller> Damn you to Tartarus, Mozilla FIREFOXXXXXXXXXX!
 * [14:16:51] <CovieKiller> SomeColorMage thats for you.
 * [14:16:58] <SomeColorMage> Nice
 * [14:17:00] * Joins: supergeeky1
 * [14:17:40] <CovieKiller> supergeeky1. Uh.
 * [14:17:46] <CovieKiller> Nothing here.
 * [14:17:46] * Quits: Tesfan
 * [14:18:26] <PanSola> anyways, that's it for this week. Thanks for coming, and please hang out here
 * [14:18:41] <PanSola> founders of new wikis get referred here to ask questions
 * [14:18:47] <SomeColorMage> I'll just get a list up and format it later
 * [14:19:08] <PanSola> so the more ppl hanging out, the more likely some would notice a new person adn say hi to teh new founder (-:
 * [14:19:11] <PanSola> thanks SCM (-:

-User:PanSola(talk/history) 17:57, 31 March 2008 (UTC)