Admin Forum:How do you locate a Wiki's founder if they are not Sysops?

I just read Help:Founders but it only suggests to check admins' pages for the founder tag.

This would be very tedious to do on larger wikis with many people, as there might be dozens of sysops.

Founders also sometimes voluntarily revoke their bureaucrat rights. Auto-adoption actually strips those rights leaving founders as only admins. Even that can be removed if the adopter opts to demote the sysop.

To give an example: w:c:FairyTail:Special:ListUsers/sysop. This wiki was made in March 2008 but all the current sysops joined after 2010, and none have the founder's tag.

Is there some way to figure out who founded a wiki in circumstances like this?

All I can figure is Special:Log/rights and track the changes over time to the earliest? Yc 12:37, October 24, 2012 (UTC)
 * Generally all wikis have a Project:About in which the founder is mentioned. Seeing the earliest log is also helpful — 15:30, October 24, 2012 (UTC)
 * Not necessarily true, sadly; the About page has to be manually created, and says only what the page author wants it to say, if anything. For instance, the Casual Vacancy Wiki About page is currently blank. -- RobertATfm (talk) 15:48, October 24, 2012 (UTC)
 * Thought that some answer was better than no answer. Some wikis do mention their founder's name there or in w:c:bleach:Project:Administrators. — 16:16, October 24, 2012 (UTC)
 * Sadly there's no automatic way to see the Founder of a wiki (something that we have debated making more accessible to users but ultimately hesitated because some founders wish to be no longer associated with their wikis). What I would suggest is going to the user rights log and sorting by the earliest parameter. 90% of the time, the founder was the person who would have made the first promotion of another user. --DaNASCAT (help forum | blog) 17:13, October 24, 2012 (UTC)


 * Special:ListUsers also has the option to only list bureaucrats and sysops. I am not me (talk) 18:18, October 24, 2012 (UTC)


 * What I would do is go to the home page, find the first edit, and there it is. 00:33, October 26, 2012 (UTC)
 * Not always, on a wiki I use, the person created the wiki but didn't make a single edit. -452 02:25, October 27, 2012 (UTC)

There is usually a welcome message left on the founder's talk page, so one way to find the founder is to find that welcome. I downloaded the full database dump from Special:Statistics to double-check what the earliest edits were. If DPL is enabled on your wiki, you could use it to list the earliest created pages. DPL statement:  notnamespace=Template adduser=true addeditdate=true ordermethod=firstedit count=50  The first pages listed with the same timestamp are automated edits. -452 02:57, October 27, 2012 (UTC)