Thread:AKM sama/@comment-29403514-20200620012304/@comment-29403514-20200620184738

AKM sama wrote: Barring the message wall edits and stuff, half of your total edits are still on threads where they were not supposed to be. Blatantly FRAing yourself is not the only criteria, you still used your account in an unethical way even if you didn't blatantly FRA yourself, it still makes a difference in swinging things in your favor.

Granted you didn't really use that account in the last year or so, I'll reduce your block to 2 weeks. The way the options describe it is that if something is supporting you.

"3. For the people who used alternate accounts:

a. If the alternate accounts were used to give support to themselves in several different important threads, the users responsible for this will get temporary bans of 1 month each.

b. In case the alternate accounts were harmless, with few edits, and mostly in message wall discussions and other unimportant threads, just a warning will be sufficient."

I'm not one to usually entertain semantics, but the idea of Option A is clearly talking about people who used their accounts to go to threads to support themselves in. Quoting ExSENNA's block, "(Used an alternate account with over 100 comments, including to help themselves on important threads. ExSENNA will receive a 1 month block.)". So there is a meaningful distribution between the two.

And to make this clear, I'm not arguing that the other 20 edits on the VS Threads/CRTs are irrelevant. I already agreed that was not the best usage of the account, but I'm saying a very small percentage of those edits actually fit the description that's still on my profile. They definitely weren't the most ethical usage, but I'll segment into the next point.

I feel like this was glossed over as well. You mentioned barely any activity in the past year, but you did you look at the types of edits I've done in the last two? Barring a few 2018 ones that are less than a month away from going into the "two years ago" category with the rest of them, there have only been 10 edits in that timeframe. 7 of those were on Message Walls, which was already established to just be warning material, while another is just a meme which doesn't need explaining why that doesn't add to the case.

There are only 2 of those edits commenting on threads where they shouldn't have been in the last two years. Let me just give a comparison between all of the other people who received the exact same ban length as me.

"Ricsi-viragosi - Ricsi0309, FloweryAlex (The first one is old and from before his current account. The second one is blatant use of an alternate account with 1000 edits on the same threads and it is still currently in use. He will be demoted and temporarily blocked for 1 month, and his sockpuppets permanently banned.)"

This one doesn't need much explanation. FloweryAlex has literally 492 edits in just the past year. I counted each individual edit that shouldn't have been done for him and got 349. Even if I miscounted on a couple, it's 300+ irregardless. I'm just saying, I did only two edits like this person had in the hundreds and was still fairly frequent.

"ExSENNA - Kayra, the Taken Kid (Used an alternate account with over 100 comments, including to help themselves on important threads. ExSENNA will receive a 1 month block.)"

So this one was very clearly in use. Its last edit was literally a day ago, the day you banned it on. I didn't even need to count on this one heavily because you can literally CTRL+F and find there are 98 versus thread comments (with some message alterations though) with a few CRT edits. That's around 100 consistent edits throughout the year and two months this account has existed with no sign of stopping.

"SSBXeno573 - Supawa, RotofBots (The alternate accounts have over 1000 edits together on important threads. SSBX will be blocked for 1 month.)"

Supawa was a dead account for about an entire year, but we can compare in the last two years. CTRL+F here and he has 96 edits on VS Threads and 6 on CRTs (29 of these are message edits though) which gives him 70+ meaningful contributions on threads.

I looked at RotofBots and CRTL+F'd Versus Threads alone. He had 387 edits with 86 of them just being message changes. Then I did so for CRTs and he had 186 edits with 43 of them just being message changes.

Also, both of these accounts were frequently active and trading off with each other in edits on meaningful threads, even within a current year. If we want to eliminate message changes, and just add these together, this dude had 517 meaningful contributions on threads in the last 2 years. I don't think there's much else I have to say here.

"Culexus Assassin - Maestro46 and KontrolliEREN (The two accounts both have over 100 edits on important threads. Culexus will receive a 1 month block.)"

Maestro had a combined 97 edits on CRTs and VS Threads (28 message edits) and Eren only had one edit. Ignoring the message edits, Culexus had 70 exactly meaningful edits on VS Threads and CRTs that occurred in the span of this year.

"USklaverei - IHyutto (63 edits on important threads to support himself. He will receive a 1 month block.)"

IHyutto had 17 meaningful edits with two message edits. So that'd make 15 edits (ignoring the comments on Bleach calcs because I don't think they'd count but it'd be like 30+ if so) in the past two years.

So as you can see, I have a problem being compared in ban length or even half of it compared to the rest of these users. Literally everyone else who received a ban, aside from IHyutto, had edits that were either near 100 or well into the hundreds in the past two years (more realistically, most of these accounts were very barely older than a year or were short of a couple months of it). And for IHyutto, his account has been decently more active with meaningful edits than ExtremeArcanine has.

From what's been said, the case against me is mostly using edits from over two years ago (and those edits should hardly carry over to the modern day). I do not mean to belittle these other people, but my point is that the two times in past two years I've done it aren't really comparable to the way most of these accounts have been used in comparison.

I'm not looking for a full acquittal, I'm looking to just get it down lower is all. I won't bother with posting anymore walls of text beyond this most likely. I just think that the reduced account activity (as you originally gave as a reason) and the actual comparison to the rest of these people would make an effective reason for lowering. Other than that, have a good day.