Help talk:Fandom domain migration

Seriously?
This is really a bad decision. Do you even try to set up a poll for this? It makes no sense! --Triarch (talk) 15:34, January 18, 2019 (UTC)


 * I Agree. ~ Cirno The Ice Fairy (My talk!) 19:03, January 18, 2019 (UTC)

This is a very poorly made decision, proof that FANDOM has 100% control over us and we have zero ability to protest anything. Wikia is what I joined back in the day, NOT FANDOM. I even tried to create a wiki called "antifandom", but it got deleted by Wikia administrators.... kevindong (talk) 16:34, January 20, 2019 (UTC)

What is it that makes it a poor decision? I'd rather they make the change and not close the business and lose all the information. I've been on sites that closed down and they flushed years of work down the toilet. If this is what they need to do to keep it alive then I'm ok with it. AnvilCrawler (talk) 13:29, January 22, 2019 (UTC)


 * Replying to you, AnvilCrawler (talk)  --  Wikia was perfectly fine before, pumping probably millions or billions from advertising revenue on their various wikis. Saying that they have to change to Fandom is a complete and utter lie. They are doing this because they WANT to. And I HATE THAT. kevindong (talk) 22:21, January 25, 2019 (UTC)

Yep
Another example of Wikia's obvious greed and expressing lack of caring to their customers. Wonderful. --JohnnyD-the-VGNerd 13:59, January 18, 2019 (UTC)
 * Yeah. I refused to call them Fandom but Rather, Wikia... I wish Wikia haven't turned into a buzzfeed rip off or whatever it was. ~ Cirno The Ice Fairy (My talk!) 14:07, January 18, 2019 (UTC)
 * Great, now there will be complex procedures just to create a new wiki. Just like YouTube, Wikia is falling too. ~Nox
 * If we were as greedy as these comments would make us seem, the only staff member who would work at Fandom would be an engineer who makes sure the site stays online. We would offer no community support and nothing other than making sure there was someone to fix bugs - and in that case, that engineer would only fix bugs that would knock the site offline. That would allow us to make the most amount of money with the least amount of cost.


 * But we don’t do that. Our goal is to genuinely provide a great community experience. There are many decisions from the last few years that were deeply flawed, didn’t provide a great experience, and alienated users. Our goal coming into 2019 is to fix that, which will take time and we’ll need to prove that through our actions not our words. - Brandon Rhea (talk) 01:46, January 20, 2019 (UTC)

I want Wikia to stay forever.
I want Wikia to stay the way it would be forever.

Why are you moving my favorite wikis to so-called Fandom domain?
Yeah... the reason why most people were escaped to Curse media  and look at where they are, Fandom and curse media are actually joining force, but come on... Touhou wiki were moved to a new host! and Sonic wiki and club penguin wiki are migrated to .Fandom domain?! What the heck? ~ Cirno The Ice Fairy (My talk!) 14:21, January 18, 2019 (UTC)

Why?!
Why are they going to moved my wiki homepage's domain to fandom.? Just Why?! --Lulu62 (talk) 14:57, January 18, 2019 (UTC)


 * All your bookmarks and pages will still work.  Everything is being redirected.  I've tested this on other communities that have already been migrated and everything works fine. AnvilCrawler (talk) 13:31, January 22, 2019 (UTC)

Don't forget
And of Feb 2019 FANDOM will then become a horror game. --Nintendon&#39;t (talk) 15:43, January 18, 2019 (UTC)

Cancel
Cancel all fandoms. Wikia is FOREVER better than fandom and it ALWAYS WILL be.

I beg you.
Please leave Wikia the way it is and let it stay that way.

Yeah! Your decision is so bad!
Yep. This is just lazy in your opinion. should everyone just fork their old wikis to unaffilated wikis like Miraheze. ~ Cirno The Ice Fairy (My talk!) 19:03, January 18, 2019 (UTC)

Horrrendous move
This an incredibly poor decision, please reconsider --The Creature Slayer (talk) 19:51, January 18, 2019 (UTC)

It must stay.
You can't let Wikia change to Fandom. It must stay that way.

I don't mind.
This is simply pointless. I don't really mind, i just think it's a pointless update. United, we stand. Divided, we stand. We just stand all the time. --Kelzod 20:31, January 18, 2019 (UTC)

Everyone, just calm down
Speaking as the co-founder of a wiki that's been here for over 13 years, I can assure you that our communities have survived a previous domain change (see attached screenshot: WikiCities, February 2005), and they will probably survive this one. If everyone had read the information instead of having a knee-jerk reaction, you'd see that they seem to have thought this through. Don't worry about it, and just keep making your wikis great places for people to collaborate together. —Scott (message me) 20:45, January 18, 2019 (UTC)
 * To be honest, when you come to think of it, seeing WikiCities to Wikia is still showing they are focusing on the wiki portion. Nowadays you see that FANDOM is more focused less on wikis and more on clickbait editorials. BF10 Orders Tips Attendence Logs 17:17, January 21, 2019 (UTC)
 * The entire internet pays their bills with clickbait articles, but I get your point. Since we're being honest, I'd rather deal with clickbait than obnoxious signatures, but we do what we can to get by. —Scott (message me) 12:14, January 22, 2019 (UTC)

Please.
Please let Wikia stay as it is.

Evolution is the guiding key
After reading all of this i was concern at first but then when it's fime for a domain to evolve from a wiki or wikia to fandom i think this'll be a great guiding key to all user's to evolve there domain to a fandom community not a wiki and keep it domained it's fine time to evolve from a wiki to a fandom who user's will love to talk and so on. So you know as such as i said evolution is the guiding key to all fandoms hopefully you'll evolve them too, Anyone agree?...-Trainer Micah (talk) 21:15, January 18, 2019 (UTC)
 * In other words, we want to keep supporting Wikia's endless greed. In that case, no thank you. --JohnnyD-the-VGNerd 23:58, January 18, 2019 (UTC)
 * No greed here it's to users or admin oor bureaucrat or discussion mod chat mod etc why do we all call a wikia or wiki a fandom?
 * Answer is to make a wiki or wikia grow as a fandom to become popular the more popular the fandom community becomes the more branches of other fandom's it grows into so no it's to users who obay rules an so on so think about it ask yourself why okay?
 * Do you want too see your community grow popular? If so think about it if so it's what we call a fandom plus it's only in url no other places alright. --Trainer Micah (talk) 01:04, January 19, 2019 (UTC)


 * I said the following in response to another comment, but I wanted to say it here too since it also applies:


 * If we were as greedy as these comments would make us seem, the only staff member who would work at Fandom would be an engineer who makes sure the site stays online. We would offer no community support and nothing other than making sure there was someone to fix bugs - and in that case, that engineer would only fix bugs that would knock the site offline. That would allow us to make the most amount of money with the least amount of cost.


 * But we don’t do that. Our goal is to genuinely provide a great community experience. There are many decisions from the last few years that were deeply flawed, didn’t provide a great experience, and alienated users. Our goal coming into 2019 is to fix that, which will take time and we’ll need to prove that through our actions not our words. - Brandon Rhea (talk) 01:46, January 20, 2019 (UTC)

This place is becoming less of a place for wikis...
Turning Wikia into "Fandom" just sounds so much worse, and I bet this will affect if our wikis are displayed on Google results since most people who want to look at stuff on a wiki will type "&lt;something> wiki". This also just makes our wikis sound less like such and more like websites for fanon.

These kinds of changes are what led to one of the former administrators of Destiny Wikia resigning their position because you just do whatever you desire, disregarding any of your communities' opinions. —Nazo, Lord of the Darkness 22:29, January 18, 2019 (UTC)
 * People that Google for "&lt;something> wiki" will still find the wikis they need, wikis aren't being renamed to "fandoms"... I don't know where are you getting the idea that Google would rank  domains higher when searching for "wiki". In fact, this very article you're commenting on is explaining why would it rank them lower than   domains. --  Cube - shaped   garbage can  22:32, January 18, 2019 (UTC)


 * The trend of people searching for the word “wiki” has dropped tremendously for several years now. That hasn’t had an impact on people coming to the site, though. It just means that people aren’t including the word wiki in their searches anymore, and the strong SEO that Fandom communities have keeps putting their results at the top. For example you don’t have to search for “Luke Skywalker wiki” to get Luke Skywalker’s Wookieepedia entry in the #2 spot where it is now. You can just search “Luke Skywalker.”


 * Keywords like that have fallen out of style with Google because they group concepts together and serves not just the user’s query but what they believe is the user’s intent. If I search for pizza at 6pm odds are Google is going to show me results for local pizza places and not an article defining what a pizza is because they’re 99% sure I want to order a pizza. It’s the same where if I search for “black panther” after searching for “black jaguar” Google’s probably going to show me pictures of an animal and not the Marvel movie.


 * All of which is to say - it’s not going to affect people searching “&lt;subject> wiki” and their ability to find your community. In fact, as the chart on the help page shows, the domains that are already migrated to fandom.com are, on average, performing better than they did when they were on wikia.com. - Brandon Rhea (talk) 00:06, January 19, 2019 (UTC)

Instead, implement official polls before changing Wikia to Fandom. Many SEO and search engines still prioritize Wikia sites especially that of Candy Crush wiki, my home wiki as of now. Or, an alternative method is to let "Fandom" be simply an alternative name for the main name "Wikia." a mulligan. (talk) 05:49, January 19, 2019 (UTC)
 * Still, for years and years the Wikias aka Wikipedias for specialized subjects such as that of a game or a franchise has been known as Wikia, and many indeed includes "fandom" content. Rebranding Wikia to Fandom however will not be recommended - and most "Fandom" sites are really something akin to guides. Interestingly enough, I like the name "Wikia by Fandom" but oppose the name "Fandom"


 * Wikia is still the name of the parent company, but Fandom is the brand of the site. In terms of SEO prioritization you are right that wikis on the site are given priority but that’s because the content is well-made and trusted by readers and by Google. It’s not because it says Wikia on them. In fact as the graph on the help page shows, on average the Fandom domains are performing better than the Wikia domains were. - Brandon Rhea (talk) 22:15, January 19, 2019 (UTC)

My thought on this decision...
I don't really care to be honest... Gummy Cow! 00:08, January 19, 2019 (UTC)


 * Which is fine no users will see it coming in a few weeks it's only happening in "url link" of https no where else users will still have there wikia or wiki to make them grow it's only in url above in the big box of search so yes you'll still have your wikia or wiki as users continue to grow them and see how popular it'll become as a FANDOM alright so you know some will not care some will so continue on editoring as etc and see how popular your community grows alright..-Trainer Micah (talk) 01:14, January 19, 2019 (UTC)

Differences
How's it going to be different than now? Why is this happening? Whose idea was it anyway? Retro Reed (talk) 01:39, January 19, 2019 (UTC)
 * There's not going to be a difference other than the URL. We rebranded from Wikia to Fandom over 2 years ago, which is why the domain change is happening. It just took awhile to figure out how to safely migrate domains from wikia.com to fandom.com without harming traffic, which is why we didn't do this migration over 2 years ago. - Brandon Rhea (talk) 01:58, January 19, 2019 (UTC)
 * Every time I sign onto any Wiki, I always get the notification that sends me here. That will never stop, will it? That's my concern. Retro Reed (talk) 13:46, January 21, 2019 (UTC)
 * On the right-hand side of the notification banner, there's an X you can click to dismiss it. It shouldn't show up again after that. - Brandon Rhea (talk) 17:29, January 21, 2019 (UTC)

Sad
Does the actual FANDOM company pressure the FANDOM staff into making these changes?

-Popstar792 I am a womam of love, power, and strength. My actions will either poison your mind and leave you broken, or fill you up with love and leave you the happiest. 06:10, January 19, 2019 (UTC)
 * No. - Brandon Rhea <font color="#1A2BBB">(talk) 22:12, January 19, 2019 (UTC)

You can't do this.
Please don't do this.

Everyone here's a example of that alright No arguments
   As everyone in community can see above depending on your wiki or wikia nothing will really change your wiki or wikia in url alright as example shown it's only in url at via small part seen via example seen in this brackets:

As seen it depending on wiki or wikia and your admins or etc as higher up's in duty in your wiki or wikia alright ^ you can't do this?

Really admin's or etc can, Depending on your wiki or wikia as admin's or etc alright "any further arguments regarding threads or forums etc I request admins to lock them to present any arguments needed redirect in it to [//community.wikia.com/wiki/Special:contact/general https://community.wikia.com/wiki/Special:contact/general] if any arguments or concerns please and thank you!

''And if anyone asks am i a "inappropriate words" No i am a admin or a cross community wikia's so no i know rules and oversee things inappropriate behavior etc i know rules and everything alright? So no i'm not a "whatever your thinking" alright best just stop deep breathes to calm yourself down don't consequences will happen so i request all to stop alright so you know and thanks ...-Trainer Micah (talk) 17:12, January 19, 2019 (UTC) ''


 * You spelled monsterhunter wrong so the link goes to a "this is not a valid community" message! ;) AnvilCrawler (talk) 13:39, January 22, 2019 (UTC)


 * Ah! So i did redid the link hopefully it works. If not just search for it okay?


 * Or just search for it

Shady facts
You say the already migrated Fandoms have (slightly it seems) increased traffic, but which ones were you monitoring and which ones were you migrating early, to begin with? I assume those really traffic heavy ones like wookipedia, if those ad changes early 2018 are anything to go by.

In other words, without specifying it you are basically just hiding information and twisting facts to fit your agenda. Get out with this type of "its good for you" crap. Browseitall (talk) 22:00, January 19, 2019 (UTC)
 * Here is a list of every wiki we migrated in the October migration test. There were about 3,200 wikis across every vertical and of varying traffic so we could monitor a subset that would accurately represent the scope of the full migration. - <font color="#1A2BBB">Brandon Rhea <font color="#1A2BBB">(talk) 22:08, January 19, 2019 (UTC)

Wow
Now thousands of pages are going to be affected by this migration
 * Just the URL, though, nothing on the page itself. - <font color="#1A2BBB">Brandon Rhea <font color="#1A2BBB">(talk) 01:47, January 20, 2019 (UTC)

Curious Questions
Will I still be a member when I log in to the new site? And will all my work for every page I worked on still be intact? Just curious. --Dr. Beat (talk) 16:28, January 22, 2019 (UTC)


 * It's not really a new "site", but rather a new domain name for the same site. But yes, when the domain name is changed, you'll still have a user account and your edits will be stored still. 16:35, January 22, 2019 (UTC)

I beg you!
Please change everything back to wikias and let them stay that way.

Broken Application
I was already against this domain change for a number of reasons, but now it's become an actual dilemma. When I attempt to log in through Multiuploader, I receive this message - "Error: user is not autoconfirmed". And it only happens on Wikis whose domain has been changed to Fandom. So thanks for that bc none of this would be possible without your completely necessary and well received domain change :) I use this app weekly as I often upload dozens upon dozens of images every week. Does someone plan on fixing this or am I gonna have to accept that I'm getting f*cked with no grease??? Killer kev (talk) 02:46, January 24, 2019 (UTC)


 * Have you filed a bug report to let someone know or are you just whining? guyus24 06:32, January 24, 2019 (UTC)


 * Send the details to Special:Contact/bug. What were your "number of reasons", just out of curiosity? —Scott (message me) 10:13, January 24, 2019 (UTC)


 * Huh. Had a closer look. Seeing as it's an unmaintained plugin from 2013, it'd be hardcoded in to deal with .wikia domains. This is not a Wikia/FANDOM issue. Has no one heard of MultipleUpload? guyus24 21:40, January 24, 2019 (UTC)


 * Why would I contact Staff when this isn't an issue they would solve? It's certainly one they've caused, but they likely don't give af, hence the being f*cked with no grease. And if you're gonna be snide guyus24, do be sure to at least make an accurate suggestion as this isn't a bug. It's the result of an unmaintained application. So to answer your question, no. I didn't contact them. @Scarecroe, are you asking me to repeat all the reasons listed against this change in the announcement blog for the migration, bc that's pretty much what you'll be getting. We all echoed a lot of the same sentiments. And finally, yes, of course I've heard of MultipleUpload, but it doesn't even come close to matching the uploading capacity of Multiuploader. Killer kev (talk) 22:55, January 24, 2019 (UTC)


 * Let me get this straight, you think the entire Fandom rebrand should be halted just because a handful of people are using an unmaintained plugin that's almost 6 years old? Posting here was absolutely pointless and I think you've just made it clear that you knew it too. Now, from the talk page on c:dev:MultiUploader, the author is aware of the issue and is going to try and fix it. C'mon. Be realistic. This move was hard and you pointlessly making a fuss over it for an issue that is outside of Fandom's control isn't helping. guyus24 01:15, January 25, 2019 (UTC)


 * At no point did I say this is the reason why the Fandom rebrand is unwanted. You know what they say about assuming. This is a talk page. Maybe you're unfamiliar with it's purpose and how they work, but they're literally here to provide feedback, which I'm doing. And it being outside of Fandom's control likely isn't true. It being outside Fandom's problem seems more accurate. Be easy! Killer kev (talk) 01:20, January 26, 2019 (UTC)


 * It's an official wiki but Dev Wiki is primarily operated and maintained by users. Scripts are mostly user-created. In this case, the author of the script is Callofduty4. As guyus24 pointed out, Cod4 has chosen to no longer maintain that script. You are, of course, welcome to send him a message asking if he'd be willing to update it. From the standpoint of what Fandom can do, though, our product team is hoping to update Special:MultipleUpload this year since it's incredibly clunky. - <font color="#1A2BBB">Brandon Rhea <font color="#1A2BBB">(talk) 22:44, January 27, 2019 (UTC)

SEO
This page needs to define "SEO", an acronym that turns up several times. No one should have to look elsewhere to define a term you are depending on to justify this move. - 05:56, January 26, 2019 (UTC)


 * Search Engine Optimization. It's a pretty commonly used term. The first use of the acronym on this article links to a help page about it, but I agree that writing out the phrase once at the beginning of the article would be helpful (and conform to the AP style guide). —Scott (message me) 14:32, January 26, 2019 (UTC)