Thread:Leviathan 89/@comment-26116130-20200816215154/@comment-3279487-20200825173054

Hello, I'd like to understand first why this is a problem. It's standard practice for international communities to "seed" their wikis by translating content from their bigger counterparts and then adapt it to their needs. That's not plagiarism, and it's quite the standard practice. I'm not sure why that would be a problem given that we are talking about wikis in different languages that are all part of the Fandom network (think about how Wikipedia has the same page in various languages). I would understand if another user would copy your wiki in the same language, thus harming your wiki by splitting your potential userbase, or if they would copy your wiki on another wiki farm without proper attribution, but I don't see the harm for your wiki in this case. Also, it seems to me that the Italian wiki has barely 11 pages, while other languages might have even more translated content so why specifically the Italian wiki is the issue?

I can certainly ask the founder to add some links back, but first I would also like to clarify some misunderstandings here:
 * Most wikis use images about their subject which are usually used under fair use. Therefore unless someone is the author of such images (like fan arts, for example) than no one can really claim attribution for simply uploading them on Fandom. E.g., if I upload an image about a show and someone downloads it and uploads it somewhere else, I cannot ask "attribution" for it. That someone still has to attribute the original author or copyright holder (who owns the right of the show in this case), not me, and use it under fair use. It would certainly be nice and proper manner to add a link to my wiki if he took it from there (and I can ask the founder of the IT wiki to do so), but they are not compelled to do so.
 * I would argue that templates are too generic to ask for attribution and it seems to me that you are also using many templates that I see other wiki using without adding any attribution yourself, so you surely would understand that it's common practice to copy them between wikis. It's not a good practice, not much from a license point of view, but rather from a technical point of view. Adding a link to the original source of any kind of code not only is good manner, but it's also very helpful to keep the code updated and track issues with it.
 * Translations do still require attribution under the CC-BY-SA, but that would be true for literal translation. If a text is roughly translated and visibly changed from the original source, then it's new content.
 * Upholding attribution is as simple as adding a link to the original source. That can be done by adding a visible link to the page, but also by using the Special:Import/Export function or by adding the link in the edit summary. In the latter cases, it wouldn't show anything visible on the page.

Given all of these considerations, I would like to understand what is that you are trying to achieve here? I can certainly ask to add a link back and respect attribution properly, but you cannot prevent people to translate your content and it seems to me that even upholding attribution for those very few part of content that requires it would result in hardly any changes. I would actually ask you, instead, to promote translations in other languages in order to aid the growth of your sister wikis as it's really difficult to start a wiki in other languages that cannot afford the luxury of a user-base as big as the English one.

Lastly, I always assumed that interlanguage links both implied "the same content in other languages" (kinda like Wikipedia) and that fulfilled the attribution required by the CC-BY-SA license (as it's de facto the same as adding an attribution link on the page), although I'm not sure. Regardless of that, wouldn't that suffice anyway? If so then you can add such links wherever you want yourself too.