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Enjoy! -- BladeBronson (Talk) 05:56, 31 March 2009

Well, I will come back from time to time but yes, Captain Kirk is scaring away users. Not only he does not want to discuss categories (in lit wikia he did not want to, he just reverted me) but he wants to ban me now. I noticed he does not know what a sysop is. But he might learn. I don't quit because of him but because I got tired of "talking to the walls". See, I wanted to fix categories both in art and lit wiki but he did not want to discuss anything. He reverted me in lit wikia and that's something I cannot stand... I won't get into a edit war so I better quit for some time. I quit Literatura wikia for that reason and I quit art wikia because I lack inspiration now. I will edit when I see fit. I am glad to know you liked my contributions. It's better for me to quit, else I would have to engage in a dead-end discussion with Csuarezllosa teaching him what a sock-puppet is; Acey is an alternate account, not a sock puppet, since I never said he was another person, I accepted the account was also mine. Let's see how this ends. He cannot ban me. My fault was not putting anywhere (but in the Shout box) that I was the same one. --Davinci - conversar 17:21, 31 March 2009 (UTC)

>I don’t know how he could, make you an admin and then, accuse you of sock puppetry

It's worst than that. When I was using Davichito account, I was the bureaucrat in Literatura wiki and I nominated Csuarezllosa for adminship. So, he is an admin thanks to me and now he wants to block me! It's funny from some point of view. I know how this will end. He will ask Zuirdj and he will find no proofs of sock puppetry so Csuarezllosa will get a warning for acting that fast and without knowing what a sock puppet is. But it might happen that nothing happens... Notice Csuarezllosa never discusses or gives opinions. He likes to act, he does not like to discuss. I have never got to real consensus with him; he either keeps being against an opinion or completely converts to support it. No dialogue, I mean. Just 2 extremes. So, he will bounce in those 2 and act like a teen. I said what I needed to say and I won't say more to him. Let's see what happens. --Davinci - conversar 20:01, 31 March 2009 (UTC)

See, he forced me to do so. It's just a "mind experiment". He says that Acey must be blocked because it's my alternative account. So, I say, if you wish to be consistent, block Robot Asimo, since he is your alternative account. I am not asking for a block... I was just trying to show him that alternative accounts do not mean sock puppets... Maybe he notices it, maybe he does not. I don't understand why he chose to flee the wikia... It was not my intention, I was just answering to the false charges. It's that I have a problem in discussions and when I talk, I make things worse. I know he is a friend and I am treating him like one. If he were not a friend, I would not have answered to him, I would have just pasted a link to wikipedia policy on sock puppetry (which is the one Wikia uses) and no more words. I think he does not have to go. What it really pissed me off was that he asked for the blocking of my Davinci.! account. And that's one thing a friend would not do, I guess. His emotions got in the way and now I became his antagonist, it seems. Carlos involves too much emotions... notice the way he sees or talks about JQB. It's clearly hate and not just disagreement. And now it seems I am on his black list. He was very abusive in threatening me with blocking Davinci. Anyway, I hope he does not go. It will hurt him since it's not the way to leave. I leave because I got tired of discussions and because now I think Wikipedia is a better place for me... but I don't quit "violently". I am in peace with all users, I guess. --Davinci - conversar 21:42, 31 March 2009 (UTC)

Well, it's nice to know I'm not the only one who thinks that way. He has problems with understanding or caring for other people opinions. And when people react to his behavior, he goes to the argument of discrimination. I read his posts at Wikipedia; they followed the same pattern. He was abusive with other people's user pages and he reverted their changes. And when people began criticizing this attitude and his many spelling and grammar errors at the articles he began calling them "racists", due to his disability. The problem with him is that he appears to want other people to treat him in a special way... it's why he bothered me for joking him. I give special treatment to nobody.

Well, the problem goes farther. He know believes he is the only one who has contributed to Literatura wiki. In a way, it's true. He wiped most of the content edited by Queirolo... even content that did not break any neutrality or wikipedia rule. I quit the site, taking my contributions to Arte, so now he can forget about me too. I had to answer him in an angry way because he has not understood my message when I have tried to use humor or plain language. And now he is becoming a new type of JQB, thinking he owns the wikia.

His behavior is very aggressive sometimes. I think that is because he is discriminating himself... he thinks people will attack him... so maybe he attacks first. What he did at Cerámica was clearly uncivil.

But the most annoying thing, I agree, is his way of copying/mimicking other people. Several times I created an idea, like saying No to wikipedia and then he talks about it as if he had been the one who made it. Everything he sees we do, he tries to replicate. And when one discusses with him, he just changes his mind instantly. He has problems with forming his own views or opinions... or even defending them. One thing is learning from others, another to copy them entirely. This is what happened with Wikipedia. Carlos was the one who brought this problem to Wikipedia. Before him, Queirolo had only pasted his own articles from Wikipedia. But Carlos came and began pasting several articles from there until JQB told him to stop. So, after that, he became a fanatic, forgetting his past behavior and now, as if he could fix things that way, he becomes the "No wikipedia man". He now seems to think it's forbidden or something... Not that it is just an optional policy we adopted for our wikis. As he sees it this way, he tries to impose the policy on other wikis, also.

This mimicking also took place with the interwikis. It was my idea but he never understood it fully. My idea was just linking Wiki Arte and Literatura and linking Literawiki and literature. But he went adding those templates to every wiki he could find. At literature, he was reverted. I stopped contributing and now he mimics you instead, hehe. I wonder what he will do if he does not find anybody to copy. Also, he has done it with the content of the articles. I have noticed he has taken content from biografiayvidas many times... he just disguises it. At literawiki we had a long talk about it... he was googling translating English Wikipedia articles. The result was gibberish and nonsense. So, now he only searches Spanish websites. At least now his sources are several, so the violation of copyright is not clearly noticed. But violation it is but hard to prove.

And talking about annoying things, his threats and menaces are disgusting. It was why Kidoma was pissed off, mostly, I guess. And I was too, when he menaced me with banning my account. Once, in the shout box, I just got in using a new account (forgetting to change login) and he warned me with a block! Just because I tried to go on an existing conversation in the shout box... He is the type of person who should not be a sysop until he understands what it is about... But it's too late, anyway. The only thing we can do is try to "oversight" him and apologize to the users he harasses. Kidoma felt nice when I talked and welcomed him at literatura, using humor, instead of threats.

Well, it's my analysis of how I see him. I like to see people from psychological points of view. So, I would say, he has problems with self-esteem, is a bit narcissistic and thus, is a person that will get hurt if people react to his anger. In order to improve things, it would take lots of dialogue to make him understand those points. I officially give up trying dialogue with him. It's why I said I will stay away from the Shout Box. And no, Wiki Arte will not lose any contributor... I will just focus on content, rather than trying to explain common sense things to him. You can try to say your points to him, you are polite (unlike me), particularly that of the mimicking. I got it when you mentioned the copying of the templates and stuff... but it seems he ignored that comment.

Maybe I try to find to paste/translate content from Wikipedia about Civility. Maybe he reads it and understands bits of it. He has trouble understanding what wikis are and how to treat new users. Someday, he'll learn. Meanwhile, we have to either ignore him or apologize the people he bothers. Like Kidoma.

For my part, I will make peace with him. It's pointless for me to argue him, given he does not understand my reasoning. I will just help if he bother other users (as he did with Kidoma).

P.S. Anyway, this is not that "speak freely" because I have the feeling (hunch) that he will google translate this. If he does, I hope he understands it as it is. Next time, you can tell me you need to comment something and we'll go to IRC instead. Sometimes I extend too much on a topic and wikia servers are not worth wasting them on this. Hahaha. --Davinci - talk 21:41, 1 July 2009 (UTC)


 * Now I read my others posts to you in this page and I noticed... the situation has not changed anything. I guess the best solution is to ignore his over reactions (I have a tendency to react in the same way a person treats me, but that will not work with him). --Davinci - talk 21:46, 1 July 2009 (UTC)


 * Yes. Anyway, most things I said here I will post him in his talk page. I don't want him to think this I wrote is gossiping or something. --Davinci - talk 22:23, 1 July 2009 (UTC)


 * Something I forgot. Yes, I noticed most of the templates, images, etc., in Literatura, come from Wikipedia. It's something I have never agreed to. Maybe in the future, when we have more users in there, we can convince him not to do it. He also did it at Wiki Arte, too but I don't remember if there are still "Commons" and Wikipedia templates in there. I would suggest we remove all of them and create Wiki Arte templates instead of allowing him to paste Wikipedia's. With time, of course. I can imagine they are lots. --Davinci - talk 22:42, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

Well, I'm at IRC now if you wish to go in there. We can discuss these things or others related to Wiki Arte, in a faster way. --Davinci - talk 00:15, 3 July 2009 (UTC)


 * #wiki-arte at Freenode. But if you wish to use irc.wikia.com you might have to go to #fiction-wikia first. --Davinci - talk 00:19, 3 July 2009 (UTC)