Help talk:Navigation

Additional site navigation
I believe there is a need in some wikis for additional site navigation besides the top links. See:
 * Can sidebar site navigation be returned in a show/hide box? --Timeshifter 21:35, October 8, 2010 (UTC)

Only four navigation items
I noticed that there seems to be a hard limit of four items for the navigation bar at the top of each page. Shouldn't this be noted in the article? --—Sakamoto Mio « Ha ha ha » 02:16, October 18, 2010 (UTC)

"Most popular" does not mean "most popular"
It means "most edited", which is probably NOT what you you want your visitors to look at. When there was a panel for popular pages near bottom left under the old look, Barack Obama's page was near the top of Familypedia's list. It's nowhere near the top of the special page that we are now referred to - that includes pages that hardly anyone would be interested in but which have had one or two people edit again and again (hundreds of times, some of them - including one user page). — Robin Patterson (Talk) 11:40, November 4, 2010 (UTC)

Referring to current page
I'm trying to add a link to the print version of the page in the navigation ( http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Printable ) but the refers to the Mediawiki page instead. How might I go about doing this or similar things? It could be useful for other things too, for example perhaps I want to include a template that acts differently per category or namespace. --Fritzophrenic 05:48, December 5, 2010 (UTC)

List of special names?
Where can I find a list of the special names such as #visited#? I would like a list of newly added pages, specifically, but I'd also like to know what's available. --Fritzophrenic 05:56, December 5, 2010 (UTC)

Doesn't work
Does this still work for anyone? #category-name#, with a space before the first # otherwise it turns into a number, still doesn't work. You end up with just the name of the category up there with a link to it, and no seven fold down items.  D r e a m Focus  13:21, December 25, 2010 (UTC)

how to
Question:

How do i make sub menu's???

I got as far as making mostly what i needed, but ran into the 4 limit, so now i have the first 3 as autofill but i need the 4th to be manual.

but how would i do that? magic word???

*item1#    *item2#      *item3#     *item4 auto       auto         auto        link1 link2

etc etc

Galaxy-A 09:33, March 1, 2011 (UTC)


 * You can see how I did mine at http://gantz.wikia.com/wiki/MediaWiki:Wiki-navigation or if you want something different, you find a wikia that has it already, and check for their MediaWiki:Wiki-navigation page.  D r e a m Focus  15:45, March 1, 2011 (UTC)

Seriously lacking infomation
This page is seriously lacking. I can't find anywhere to learn how to do anything with the navigation beyond showing the most edited pages. I run the Shameless wiki and I have a menu at the top for series, so all the the series are in a category called series. But not only do only a few show up in the menu, but they appear completely out of order, which looks a little strange, but if I remove the #'s so they don't go in most edited order I don't get a drop down menu anymore, I get literaly this: Category: Series

So no more drop down aswell as the 'Category:' part visible. So I'm guessing I have to do more than the #'s but I just can't find anywhere to learn about such things =/ -- Lyco499 (talk ) 04:27, April 19, 2011 (UTC)
 * Well I managed to get exactly what I wanted by copying from the source linked by someone above, so thank you to them, but I still don't really get how the code works, which is rather annoying, as I'd much prefer to learn how it works. I don't suppose there's some hidden base of knowledge for wiki code beyond the help pages on every wiki, which leave much to be desired? -- Lyco499 (talk ) 04:33, April 19, 2011 (UTC)
 * You could translate the German help. :P --AB 13:16, April 19, 2011 (UTC)

Special
Special pages enabled? I want a drop down that fills in the most popular pages. Using this Special:Top/most_visited, but the script doesn't like it. Could i get some help? Geniusguy445 (talk)  "Oh wait, this isn't the camera."
 * Sorry for the delayed response, did you get it to work? --Sarah (help forum | blog) 19:59, January 9, 2012 (UTC)

link
OK, where's the edit link in the expanded wiki navigation? leohuangchunwang 15:46, December 25, 2011 (UTC)


 * Help page here. Sarah (help forum | blog) 19:59, January 9, 2012 (UTC)

Sub-submenus
Can you have sub-submenus, i.e. a way of having more than seven pages listed under each heading? -- Robin Patterson (Talk) 01:31, January 9, 2012 (UTC)


 * This type of navigation is not going to change. For the expanded nav we are going to keep it to how it is for now but I will share your request with the product team. Sarah (help forum | blog) 19:59, January 9, 2012 (UTC)


 * Thank you. I thought that the 4x7 was the limit (and I can live with that if it is), but someone on some Wikia site said that there was a way to subdivide the seven. -- Robin Patterson (Talk) 01:42, January 10, 2012 (UTC)

Initial hash sign
One of the recent upgrades to MediaWiki removed the need for starting the "special" links with "#". The illustration seems to follow that. If all Wikia sites are now on the new upgrade, the text should be altered. -- Robin Patterson (Talk) 01:35, January 9, 2012 (UTC)

But I can't get #visited# or visited# to work on w:c:civilization. -- Robin Patterson (Talk) 01:56, January 9, 2012 (UTC)


 * I hadn't heard that. Is this happening in the new nav as well? Sarah (help forum | blog) 19:59, January 9, 2012 (UTC)


 * I don't know what "new nav" means. I follow the standard skins etc. The problem occurred yesterday, so a check on w:c:civilization:Special:RecentChanges should show the change(s?) I made, and a click on the top item on the "Community" menu will show whatever it shows: it showed nothing for me when I used #visited#. -- Robin Patterson (Talk) 01:42, January 10, 2012 (UTC)
 * By new nav I mean the new expanded navigation that is now available in Wikia Labs. Have you tried it out? It provides for a lot more links in the nav. It turns out that the #visited# tag has been depreciated and should not longer be used. I am going to update the help page now. Sorry for the confusion and thanks for trying it out. Sarah (help forum | blog) 19:50, January 10, 2012 (UTC)

This won't work!!!!! How come it keeps sying my level two thing is too wide. I'm not going to delete pages to make the navigation! Please help!DDfan80 00:55, January 24, 2012 (UTC)DDfan80